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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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21:36 Clinton formally resigns as U.S. secretary of state (AP)





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This Fordo thingly is still making me think.

We never knew if it really happened or not.
The US earthquake center showed a 5 plus event in that area.
The site is completly quarantained since then.

But what really happened ?

If it was bombed, with bombs such powerfull, how did they get there ?

A drone suicide attack ?
A kind of space weapon ?
An inside job ?
As a result of controlling their computer system ?

If it was bombed, and it looks like it was, there is more, much more behing this story ... .
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


Again, very fishy that this has simply dropped off the radar, I still like the Rods from G-d bit coming from the US super secret aircraft, but Obama leaves little for having the balls to order such an attack.
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This Fordo thingly is still making me think.

We never knew if it really happened or not.
The US earthquake center showed a 5 plus event in that area.
The site is completly quarantained since then.

But what really happened ?

If it was bombed, with bombs such powerfull, how did they get there ?

A drone suicide attack ?
A kind of space weapon ?
An inside job ?
As a result of controlling their computer system ?

If it was bombed, and it looks like it was, there is more, much more behing this story ... .
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


Maybe something was developped, or in place, to give us the edge. And we wanted to let them know, that things are not as they used to be anymore.
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21:36 Clinton formally resigns as U.S. secretary of state (AP)
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She will be back as presidential candidate in 2016. Enjoy the off time until you see her at press conferences speaking in your proper name, LOL.

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Cannot help but think that the Hezbollah may try to surprise Israel by sea and have a mini-invasion of Israel by froggermen . . . those pesky subs from North Korea and Iran ya know.
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Not that I am fan of HC, LOL, I completly do not care, LOL.
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But something has changed.

The Fordo attack was not like killing some nuke scientist. The open attack against those convoys inside syria is not like sharp words of warning. And all that happened within a week.

Its like we tell them: "bring it on, we are not afraid. We kick your ass, the way and the timing we like. Stay below the red lines, or risk war."
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Not that I am fan of HC, LOL, I completly do not care, LOL.
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But something has changed.

The Fordo attack was not like killing some nuke scientist. The open attack against those convoys inside syria is not like sharp words of warning. And all that happened within a week.

Its like we tell them: "bring it on, we are not afraid. We kick your ass, the way and the timing we like. Stay below the red lines, or risk war."
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


Gotta like it if you a a military commander and strategist, knowing that the whole chain of command up to the Prime Minister has granted a new set of rules of engagement, whereas Israel owns the battlefield and can freely dictate said ownership and teach the enemy what the "new rules" are.yessir
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Cannot help but think that the Hezbollah may try to surprise Israel by sea and have a mini-invasion of Israel by froggermen . . . those pesky subs from North Korea and Iran ya know.
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Yes, watch the sea. All the other fronts are safe and watched.

Mumbai style suicide attacks accompagned by suicide mini subs lobbing some missiles ....

An civilian boat with some al quods suicides squats on board, lobbing missiles from 20 miles away ....

Where are the subs that past the last time ? Did they go back ? Or are they still in Tartus ?
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We should not forget Assad has two masters to follow: Russia and Iran.
Nasrallah is very independently and probably sticks his little dick into the wind that blows the most.

But Assad, is being mothered by Iran and Russia.

Who is calling the shots ? Russia or Iran ?

To precise the question: if we fight syria and/or iran, do we need to fight Russia ?
That would obviously complicate the issues.

In the case they have a close alliance on Syria, well, spontanesly a bible verse comes into my mind, genesis something, wasn't it scripted that magog is going to attack the holy land ?

In the case that Russia is just posturing ... what is the relationship between Russia and China ?
Aren't they close enough to coordinate on issues ?

Everybody is always saying that wall street banksters, white house and bilderbergs have a script, but what if

russia, china and iran have a script ?
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We should not forget Assad has two masters to follow: Russia and Iran.
Nasrallah is very independently and probably sticks his little dick into the wind that blows the most.

But Assad, is being mothered by Iran and Russia.

Who is calling the shots ? Russia or Iran ?

To precise the question: if we fight syria and/or iran, do we need to fight Russia ?
That would obviously complicate the issues.

In the case they have a close alliance on Syria, well, spontanesly a bible verse comes into my mind, genesis something, wasn't it scripted that magog is going to attack the holy land ?

In the case that Russia is just posturing ... what is the relationship between Russia and China ?
Aren't they close enough to coordinate on issues ?

Everybody is always saying that wall street banksters, white house and bilderbergs have a script, but what if

russia, china and iran have a script ?
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TIME magazine says Israeli jets struck several targets in Syria
[link to www.ynetnews.com]

American TIME magazine says Israeli warplanes struck several targets inside Syria in an alleged raid Tuesday night, including a biological weapons research center that was reportedly flattened out of concern that it might fall into the hands of Islamist extremists fighting to topple the government of Syrian president Bashar Assad.


The report is based on comments made by Western intelligence officials. (Ynet)
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Israel is the center of this earth where good and evil collide.

This has something to do about land, but that is only the worldly picture.

It has more to do with a conviction, a belief, a vision of our future, the way we raise our kids, the way we treat our others around us, the way we see our future, the way we are going to be tomorrow, the way we live tomorrow, the way we want to exist before god, our creator and father.

This focus point Israel, attracts the evil, to fight the truth and the book and god.
We know that this is true. Others don't.

If we are not able to win, or at least keep an equilibrium in this land against the forces of evil, we will loose our future and souls. And the souls of our children.

That's the truth.


Thats why evil will loose, with all their followers world wide, they will be proven wrong, one day.
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Israel is the center of this earth where good and evil collide.

This has something to do about land, but that is only the worldly picture.

It has more to do with a conviction, a belief, a vision of our future, the way we raise our kids, the way we treat our others around us, the way we see our future, the way we are going to be tomorrow, the way we live tomorrow, the way we want to exist before god, our creator and father.

This focus point Israel, attracts the evil, to fight the truth and the book and god.
We know that this is true. Others don't.

If we are not able to win, or at least keep an equilibrium in this land against the forces of evil, we will loose our future and souls. And the souls of our children.

That's the truth.


Thats why evil will loose, with all their followers world wide, they will be proven wrong, one day.
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Well put, aTOn, well put.
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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Israel is the center of this earth where good and evil collide.

This has something to do about land, but that is only the worldly picture.

It has more to do with a conviction, a belief, a vision of our future, the way we raise our kids, the way we treat our others around us, the way we see our future, the way we are going to be tomorrow, the way we live tomorrow, the way we want to exist before god, our creator and father.

This focus point Israel, attracts the evil, to fight the truth and the book and god.
We know that this is true. Others don't.

If we are not able to win, or at least keep an equilibrium in this land against the forces of evil, we will loose our future and souls. And the souls of our children.

That's the truth.


Thats why evil will loose, with all their followers world wide, they will be proven wrong, one day.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


Well put, aTOn, well put.
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Another applause.

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TIME magazine says Israeli jets struck several targets in Syria
[link to www.ynetnews.com]

American TIME magazine says Israeli warplanes struck several targets inside Syria in an alleged raid Tuesday night, including a biological weapons research center that was reportedly flattened out of concern that it might fall into the hands of Islamist extremists fighting to topple the government of Syrian president Bashar Assad.


The report is based on comments made by Western intelligence officials. (Ynet)
 Quoting: MIL MAN


From the same article:


"A Western intelligence official indicated to TIME that at least one to two additional targets were hit the same night, without offering details. Officials also said that Israel had a 'green light' from Washington to launch yet more such strikes."
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Israel is the center of this earth where good and evil collide.

This has something to do about land, but that is only the worldly picture.

It has more to do with a conviction, a belief, a vision of our future, the way we raise our kids, the way we treat our others around us, the way we see our future, the way we are going to be tomorrow, the way we live tomorrow, the way we want to exist before god, our creator and father.

This focus point Israel, attracts the evil, to fight the truth and the book and god.
We know that this is true. Others don't.

If we are not able to win, or at least keep an equilibrium in this land against the forces of evil, we will loose our future and souls. And the souls of our children.

That's the truth.


Thats why evil will loose, with all their followers world wide, they will be proven wrong, one day.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


Well put, aTOn, well put.
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Another applause.

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applause2
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Mil Man,
I really appreciate your posts. Always well-written, thoughtful, and cogent. Like you, I think Fordow was no accident. The big question, really, is who actually attacked the facility. I would tend to think Israel, but a lot of countries in the region also have reason to fear a nuclear Iran as well.
I think the next few days are going to get really interesting. I think Iran's recent statement that an attack on Syria is an attack on them has definite meaning. I think Israel's forthcoming strike on the Syrian WMD may well be the match that sends the whole ME tinderbox up in flames.
All we can do is pray, do what we can to prepare for what may come here, and watch.
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It's going to be hard for Israel to attack those sites without a clea accident inside there own boarder.
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There has been sufficient warning of the fact that Israel would not tolerate Hezbollah getting chemical weapons. This warning has been issued many many times, thus Israel will have to act if they detect anything indicative of weaponry being moved from the facilities.

Hate to be part of the Hezbollah units that are training near the facilities on how quickly they can run into a building or go through tunnels load vehicles with weapons, and drive away knowing all along that they are being watched by drones, tracked by satellite, and targeted by the IDF with little chance of getting away.

Now, all of that being said, the Hezbollah can little by little acquire the weapons without true detection unless the IDF has on-ground assets and/or inner intelligence of what one may be carrying out of a facility or by transferring weaponry via tunnels.

The chems and bios are an ace up Iran's sleave and the more secreted the wmd's are taken out of Syria and into Hezbollah units, the greater the reward for Iran.

And so, any Hezbollah action is likely a secondary trip wire to cause Israel to react, but then that said Hezbollah action would only be ordered when Iran was confident that sufficient quantities of voodoo weaponry have been removed and armed with the Hezbollah to ensure that Syria and Hezbollah are justified in any military reaction they take to counter the Israeli military action taken on wmd facilities. Unless, Syria is collapsing in which it is a riot at the local wmd storage unit, come one, come all!

Here, it is either a bluff by Iran simply trying to prove a point that Iran knows what Israel did, or

It is a trip wire that Iran will allow the Hezbollah to cross to forment a war, or

Syria is collapsing and this is the last ditch effort to acquire weaponry before it is lost for good.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


A Mil Man rewind from the past, before the Israeli hits.
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Mil Man,
I really appreciate your posts. Always well-written, thoughtful, and cogent. Like you, I think Fordow was no accident. The big question, really, is who actually attacked the facility. I would tend to think Israel, but a lot of countries in the region also have reason to fear a nuclear Iran as well.
I think the next few days are going to get really interesting. I think Iran's recent statement that an attack on Syria is an attack on them has definite meaning. I think Israel's forthcoming strike on the Syrian WMD may well be the match that sends the whole ME tinderbox up in flames.
All we can do is pray, do what we can to prepare for what may come here, and watch.
 Quoting: fcpsp1


It's going to be hard for Israel to attack those sites without a clea accident inside there own boarder.
 Quoting: Limpan


There has been sufficient warning of the fact that Israel would not tolerate Hezbollah getting chemical weapons. This warning has been issued many many times, thus Israel will have to act if they detect anything indicative of weaponry being moved from the facilities.

Hate to be part of the Hezbollah units that are training near the facilities on how quickly they can run into a building or go through tunnels load vehicles with weapons, and drive away knowing all along that they are being watched by drones, tracked by satellite, and targeted by the IDF with little chance of getting away.

Now, all of that being said, the Hezbollah can little by little acquire the weapons without true detection unless the IDF has on-ground assets and/or inner intelligence of what one may be carrying out of a facility or by transferring weaponry via tunnels.

The chems and bios are an ace up Iran's sleave and the more secreted the wmd's are taken out of Syria and into Hezbollah units, the greater the reward for Iran.

And so, any Hezbollah action is likely a secondary trip wire to cause Israel to react, but then that said Hezbollah action would only be ordered when Iran was confident that sufficient quantities of voodoo weaponry have been removed and armed with the Hezbollah to ensure that Syria and Hezbollah are justified in any military reaction they take to counter the Israeli military action taken on wmd facilities. Unless, Syria is collapsing in which it is a riot at the local wmd storage unit, come one, come all!

Here, it is either a bluff by Iran simply trying to prove a point that Iran knows what Israel did, or

It is a trip wire that Iran will allow the Hezbollah to cross to forment a war, or

Syria is collapsing and this is the last ditch effort to acquire weaponry before it is lost for good.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


A Mil Man rewind from the past, before the Israeli hits.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


That being said . . . Watch out again!
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Fordow didn't happen.

"Iranian denials were "consistent" with IAEA observations"

[link to www.rferl.org]

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
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Fordow didn't happen.

"Iranian denials were "consistent" with IAEA observations"

[link to www.rferl.org]

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
 Quoting: cslewis17


I disagree at this point, UN has been paid to look the other way and instead chose to say they have no Reason not to believe Iran, that does not sound like certainty.
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TIME magazine says Israeli jets struck several targets in Syria
[link to www.ynetnews.com]

American TIME magazine says Israeli warplanes struck several targets inside Syria in an alleged raid Tuesday night, including a biological weapons research center that was reportedly flattened out of concern that it might fall into the hands of Islamist extremists fighting to topple the government of Syrian president Bashar Assad.


The report is based on comments made by Western intelligence officials. (Ynet)
 Quoting: MIL MAN


From the same article:


"A Western intelligence official indicated to TIME that at least one to two additional targets were hit the same night, without offering details. Officials also said that Israel had a 'green light' from Washington to launch yet more such strikes."
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I can't see that this being published as open news (regardless whatever whomever may have "known", thought they had known, or had merely assumed) can't be seen by Syria as anything less than poking a stick in their black eye. Vicariously, the same would apply to Iran, Russia, China, and North Korea.
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TIME magazine says Israeli jets struck several targets in Syria
[link to www.ynetnews.com]

American TIME magazine says Israeli warplanes struck several targets inside Syria in an alleged raid Tuesday night, including a biological weapons research center that was reportedly flattened out of concern that it might fall into the hands of Islamist extremists fighting to topple the government of Syrian president Bashar Assad.


The report is based on comments made by Western intelligence officials. (Ynet)
 Quoting: MIL MAN


From the same article:


"A Western intelligence official indicated to TIME that at least one to two additional targets were hit the same night, without offering details. Officials also said that Israel had a 'green light' from Washington to launch yet more such strikes."
 Quoting: MIL MAN


I can't see that this being published as open news (regardless whatever whomever may have "known", thought they had known, or had merely assumed) can't be seen by Syria as anything less than poking a stick in their black eye. Vicariously, the same would apply to Iran, Russia, China, and North Korea.
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poking a red hot burning stick that just melts the eye.
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Heads up!!! Phase 2 on the way soon MM!

Also, keep a close eye on the Norks!!!

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Heads up!!! Phase 2 on the way soon MM!

Also, keep a close eye on the Norks!!!

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10-4!

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Heads up!!! Phase 2 on the way soon MM!

Also, keep a close eye on the Norks!!!

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popcorn


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flip
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Heads up!!! Phase 2 on the way soon MM!

Also, keep a close eye on the Norks!!!

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10-4!

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hf
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Heads up!!! Phase 2 on the way soon MM!

Also, keep a close eye on the Norks!!!

bump
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10-4!

dasbier
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hf
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Heads up!!! Phase 2 on the way soon MM!

Also, keep a close eye on the Norks!!!

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10-4!

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Roger that

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Japan's prime minister has vowed to defend disputed remote islands from escalating threat from China.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe called on Japan's Self-Defense Forces on southern Japan on Saturday, saying the disputed islands in the East China Sea are under increasing threat.

Abe said he will defend them "at all costs."
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Japan's prime minister has vowed to defend disputed remote islands from escalating threat from China.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe called on Japan's Self-Defense Forces on southern Japan on Saturday, saying the disputed islands in the East China Sea are under increasing threat.

Abe said he will defend them "at all costs."
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SO much has Happened in the last week ....
Whats next china threatens to nuke japan ?

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