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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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MM, all:

Things are getting "HOT". Really "HOT".

FWIW: More than a couple of trusted friends have told me to look out for CHINA. That's all. Look out for CHINA!

They might very well make a coordinated move with other unfriendly entities!

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I agree. Supposed to go out of country in a week, not the best time to be out there. There is a lot to worry about.
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Stay safe bud! Be careful!

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One of my last ventures before being retired, I hope.
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Stay low...watch your 6 MM.......
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Not to live in the past~ But, Iran definitely was in NK in 2011

Few men buy yet not play with his toys.

[link to www.aljazeera.com]

The UN imposed sanctions on Pyongyang after it conducted nuclear tests in 2006 and 2009. The sanctions ban all trade in nuclear and missile technology with North Korea, but the report suggests that Iran and North Korea have been exchanging ballistic missile-related items.

Additionally, the report says that these transfers travelled through a third country, which is suspected to be China.
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Iran and N Korea have a substantial current ongoing scientist and technology exchange program...
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Debka ........bad voodoo
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Debka ........bad voodoo
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What?
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Debka ........bad voodoo
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Debka ........bad voodoo
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We heard maybe a month ago that Hizballah had acquired "some" chemical weapons or at the very least the chemicals, however they had no way to launch them. This may have changed. If I was tasked to watch one hotspot in the world most likely to erupt, I would choose Israel, Lebanon, Syria as a region. Nothing good is going to come from the direction things are headed. That is a professional opinion.
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We heard maybe a month ago that Hizballah had acquired "some" chemical weapons or at the very least the chemicals, however they had no way to launch them. This may have changed. If I was tasked to watch one hotspot in the world most likely to erupt, I would choose Israel, Lebanon, Syria as a region. Nothing good is going to come from the direction things are headed. That is a professional opinion.
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Korea is acting out quite badly right now, to much more they can do with name calling and threats, think we will see some military confrontation and maybe in unison with Iran's boys in the middleeast.
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 Quoting: JW 2305


We heard maybe a month ago that Hizballah had acquired "some" chemical weapons or at the very least the chemicals, however they had no way to launch them. This may have changed. If I was tasked to watch one hotspot in the world most likely to erupt, I would choose Israel, Lebanon, Syria as a region. Nothing good is going to come from the direction things are headed. That is a professional opinion.
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Korea is acting out quite badly right now, to much more they can do with name calling and threats, think we will see some military confrontation and maybe in unison with Iran's boys in the middleeast.
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This just happened they were going to wait until the 11th

North Korea ends non-aggression pacts with South, cuts hotline

[link to rt.com]
 Quoting: LOU512


well...look at it this way..at least it's an interesting news cycle now. Would like to know how our boys and girls are doing on the DMZ though
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They are being professional soldiers as they are every other day on the DMZ. I spent 3 days there several years ago. The tension is so thick there you could cut it with a knife. My understanding is that they go through similar psychological training a submariner would undergo. It takes a very special person to man that post.
N Korea is definitly a wierd country in their thinking due to years of being so isolated from the rest of the world. They have perpitrated a few attacks over the last several years, but their attacks were no more disturbing than a nat on an elephants butt. The little man has a big sword to shake at us although he does realize that if he goes to far we will promptly shove that sword up his little ass and I doubt there is a country in the world that will do more than shrug their shoulders and say,'he deserved that...little punk' and move on.
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I'd worry about the soldiers on the soldiers (American and South Korean) on the DMZ, but considering how the NKs are likely to attack (if they do, which I kinda doubt), I'd be just as worried about the millions of South Korean civilians in the line of fire and the tens if not hundreds of thousands of Westerners (loosely speaking) in Seoul alone.
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This just happened they were going to wait until the 11th

North Korea ends non-aggression pacts with South, cuts hotline

[link to rt.com]
 Quoting: LOU512


well...look at it this way..at least it's an interesting news cycle now. Would like to know how our boys and girls are doing on the DMZ though
 Quoting: godzilla85


They are being professional soldiers as they are every other day on the DMZ. I spent 3 days there several years ago. The tension is so thick there you could cut it with a knife. My understanding is that they go through similar psychological training a submariner would undergo. It takes a very special person to man that post.
N Korea is definitly a wierd country in their thinking due to years of being so isolated from the rest of the world. They have perpitrated a few attacks over the last several years, but their attacks were no more disturbing than a nat on an elephants butt. The little man has a big sword to shake at us although he does realize that if he goes to far we will promptly shove that sword up his little ass and I doubt there is a country in the world that will do more than shrug their shoulders and say,'he deserved that...little punk' and move on.
 Quoting: Gerry52


I'd worry about the soldiers on the soldiers (American and South Korean) on the DMZ, but considering how the NKs are likely to attack (if they do, which I kinda doubt), I'd be just as worried about the millions of South Korean civilians in the line of fire and the tens if not hundreds of thousands of Westerners (loosely speaking) in Seoul alone.
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Agreed....however I just doubt that NK is ready to commit suicide, it just doesn't make any sense. If they did provoke a fight we have enough hardware in the area to teach them a serious lesson as to why they really shouldn't try to play with the big boys. We wouldn't destroy their country and most of their people would live through the lesson, but at the very least we would put the country as a whole back on it's heels.
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North Korea Troops Told To 'Strike First'




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Has NK ever sent troops to other countries?
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Has NK ever sent troops to other countries?
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not to be glib, but South Korea in 1950 stands out
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This just happened they were going to wait until the 11th

North Korea ends non-aggression pacts with South, cuts hotline

[link to rt.com]
 Quoting: LOU512


well...look at it this way..at least it's an interesting news cycle now. Would like to know how our boys and girls are doing on the DMZ though
 Quoting: godzilla85


They are being professional soldiers as they are every other day on the DMZ. I spent 3 days there several years ago. The tension is so thick there you could cut it with a knife. My understanding is that they go through similar psychological training a submariner would undergo. It takes a very special person to man that post.
N Korea is definitly a wierd country in their thinking due to years of being so isolated from the rest of the world. They have perpitrated a few attacks over the last several years, but their attacks were no more disturbing than a nat on an elephants butt. The little man has a big sword to shake at us although he does realize that if he goes to far we will promptly shove that sword up his little ass and I doubt there is a country in the world that will do more than shrug their shoulders and say,'he deserved that...little punk' and move on.
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My husband was at the DMZ a few months ago and he said the same thing, the tension could be cut with a knife.
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There is a big problem with NK right now. They have their troops in position and on a hair trigger. This thing could start accidentally.
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There is a big problem with NK right now. They have their troops in position and on a hair trigger. This thing could start accidentally.
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And with large drill sin the north and limited resources, NK cannot afford to hold too many drills or there will be no gas and ammo left.
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Joint US-Israel-Turkish-Jordanian HQ to operate in Syria in chemical war

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A strategy ?

NK going crazy, and in its protective shadow, war is done on Israel ?
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A strategy ?

NK going crazy, and in its protective shadow, war is done on Israel ?
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possible. what's in it for nk, though?
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A strategy ?

NK going crazy, and in its protective shadow, war is done on Israel ?
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Distraction game ? Hide your plans game ?

After all Iran and NK are very close buddies. They might have a plan ?
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A strategy ?

NK going crazy, and in its protective shadow, war is done on Israel ?
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possible. what's in it for nk, though?
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An opportunity perhaps ?
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Word on the street is China is going to jump off on japan tomorrow... get ready the shit just hit the fan
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Word on the street is China is going to jump off on japan tomorrow... get ready the shit just hit the fan
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A strategy ?

NK going crazy, and in its protective shadow, war is done on Israel ?
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NK is capable of being bribed and Iran is that player most capable of bribing NK, er well China and Russia could be involved too, but setting aside those two conspiracies, Iran has a friend, NK and NK has a friend, Iran.
They both would conspire to achieve their own strategic victories and if each of them could have one mutual enemy removed to their benefit, it would be the US. Iran needs the US out of the Mideast and North Korea needs to the US out of the penninsula or at least to not support South Korea. Thus, they both strategize how to do it and perhaps the strategy is more simple than thought. It was to get in a weak US leader who would not support Israel and move all of its carriers out of the mideast as well as the same weak leader to not truly support South Korea and move most forces out of harms way and then relay the fact that this weak leader would not pursue a war he did not beleive in and voila we are where we are today. A second before some very bad shit happens in the mideast and Korea.
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Word on the street is China is going to jump off on japan tomorrow... get ready the shit just hit the fan
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You know, China is thinking in long terms, not in short terms. And every little detail, needs to fit the plan, in order to execute it.

That is not yet. The US "pivot" is standing in the middle. Details do not match with the plan.

But where you are right, the plan exists and it is made for in the now.
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A strategy ?

NK going crazy, and in its protective shadow, war is done on Israel ?
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


NK is capable of being bribed and Iran is that player most capable of bribing NK, er well China and Russia could be involved too, but setting aside those two conspiracies, Iran has a friend, NK and NK has a friend, Iran.
They both would conspire to achieve their own strategic victories and if each of them could have one mutual enemy removed to their benefit, it would be the US. Iran needs the US out of the Mideast and North Korea needs to the US out of the penninsula or at least to not support South Korea. Thus, they both strategize how to do it and perhaps the strategy is more simple than thought. It was to get in a weak US leader who would not support Israel and move all of its carriers out of the mideast as well as the same weak leader to not truly support South Korea and move most forces out of harms way and then relay the fact that this weak leader would not pursue a war he did not beleive in and voila we are where we are today. A second before some very bad shit happens in the mideast and Korea.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Obama certainly failed in persuading the wolves not to get too near to the house.

I would upgrade the war index MM. Looks like, those wolves are trying how far they can get to come near.
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BTW, MM, take care out there.

Do only take calculated risks, do take heart risks only if your heart is without anger.

Remember that. You do not win the war alone.
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A strategy ?

NK going crazy, and in its protective shadow, war is done on Israel ?
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


NK is capable of being bribed and Iran is that player most capable of bribing NK, er well China and Russia could be involved too, but setting aside those two conspiracies, Iran has a friend, NK and NK has a friend, Iran.
They both would conspire to achieve their own strategic victories and if each of them could have one mutual enemy removed to their benefit, it would be the US. Iran needs the US out of the Mideast and North Korea needs to the US out of the penninsula or at least to not support South Korea. Thus, they both strategize how to do it and perhaps the strategy is more simple than thought. It was to get in a weak US leader who would not support Israel and move all of its carriers out of the mideast as well as the same weak leader to not truly support South Korea and move most forces out of harms way and then relay the fact that this weak leader would not pursue a war he did not beleive in and voila we are where we are today. A second before some very bad shit happens in the mideast and Korea.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Obama certainly failed in persuading the wolves not to get too near to the house.

I would upgrade the war index MM. Looks like, those wolves are trying how far they can get to come near.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


I hate wolves, seriously they look for the weak and use the pack to run their prey into a trap. I have almost got suckered into a few traps this winter where I was circled by a pack just waiting for the moment. Good thing I try to carry, I took out the instigator and lived to tell.

Here, the US has failed to take out the instigators of the pack. Trouble everywhere. War Index is at an new immeasurably high level, I just added a new level to 12 and we are at 11.9 for the weekend to start with.
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A strategy ?

NK going crazy, and in its protective shadow, war is done on Israel ?
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


NK is capable of being bribed and Iran is that player most capable of bribing NK, er well China and Russia could be involved too, but setting aside those two conspiracies, Iran has a friend, NK and NK has a friend, Iran.
They both would conspire to achieve their own strategic victories and if each of them could have one mutual enemy removed to their benefit, it would be the US. Iran needs the US out of the Mideast and North Korea needs to the US out of the penninsula or at least to not support South Korea. Thus, they both strategize how to do it and perhaps the strategy is more simple than thought. It was to get in a weak US leader who would not support Israel and move all of its carriers out of the mideast as well as the same weak leader to not truly support South Korea and move most forces out of harms way and then relay the fact that this weak leader would not pursue a war he did not beleive in and voila we are where we are today. A second before some very bad shit happens in the mideast and Korea.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Obama certainly failed in persuading the wolves not to get too near to the house.

I would upgrade the war index MM. Looks like, those wolves are trying how far they can get to come near.
 Quoting: ^àTOn^


I hate wolves, seriously they look for the weak and use the pack to run their prey into a trap. I have almost got suckered into a few traps this winter where I was circled by a pack just waiting for the moment. Good thing I try to carry, I took out the instigator and lived to tell.

Here, the US has failed to take out the instigators of the pack. Trouble everywhere. War Index is at an new immeasurably high level, I just added a new level to 12 and we are at 11.9 for the weekend to start with.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Here, in Europe, countries are breaking down. Down means there is not enough food, no medecin, no jobs, people are rioting in the streets. Violantly. Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy, France it is starting.

I have the impression that wolves are everywhere nowadays.

My life is settled, but I have two kids, here in this country. In France jobless rate for young people is at staggering 25%, worsening.

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