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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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PAKISTAN ACCUSES INDIA OF DEADLY CROSS-BORDER RAID



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Aton: you speak of a better time in the recent past, but the time shortly before were savage, dark, evil. Put not you trust in men. The veneer of civilization can disappear at any moment
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Hi Swin, I hope you are well. I realy hope you are well :-).

I think, things have to be said. Once things have a name and a sentance, they are said.
Then everybody can think for themselves.

I never put trust into men. This earth is completley crazy. There is no truth, nothing, it is just a hell.

People who tell the truth here, are killed. That was always like that, and with the people here it will be always like that.

The choice, people have to do on this earth, they don't even care, they don't make a choice, most do not even care.

If you have anything good to say, which I do not see, share it please.

If not, don't answer to this.
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Central African Republic - Rebels gain control of 2 more towns; South Africa sending in troops.

[link to edition.cnn.com]
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Thread: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
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Fleet of Russian warships reportedly en route to Syria to head off a Western attack.
Flotilla of five Russian warships laden with hundreds of troops, which is headed toward Syria, is a show of force meant to deter Western armies from intervening in the war-torn nation, the London-based Sunday Times reported.
Previous reports cited Russian diplomats to the effect that the vessels were being put in place in order to evacuate thousands of Russians who still remain in Syria if the situation in the country called for it.
However, a Russian intelligence source was quoted on Sunday as saying that the presence of over 300 marines on the ships was meant as a deterrent to keep countries hostile to the Bashar Assad regime — a key ally of the Kremlin — from landing special forces in the country.
“Russia should be prepared for any developments, as it believes the situation in Syria might reach its peak before Easter,” a Russian diplomatic source was quoted as saying.

Thread: Fleet of Russian warships reportedly en route to Syria to head off a Western attack.
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Dutch Patriot missile battery has left Holland today for deployment at Turkish/Syrian border.

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This all smells of a tic for tac pre-hostilities buildup. All the players are in action even China in a covert manner.

Last Edited by Gerry52 on 01/07/2013 01:10 PM
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Dutch Patriot missile battery has left Holland today for deployment at Turkish/Syrian border.
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also germany transporting it's patriot systems to the ships
shipment starts tomorrow

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Israel plans to build Syrian border fence

Israel said it will construct a fence on its border with Syria in order to counter “jihadist forces” that were moving in as the Syrian Army withdrew from the frontier regions.

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Fleet of Russian warships reportedly en route to Syria to head off a Western attack.
Flotilla of five Russian warships laden with hundreds of troops, which is headed toward Syria, is a show of force meant to deter Western armies from intervening in the war-torn nation, the London-based Sunday Times reported.
Previous reports cited Russian diplomats to the effect that the vessels were being put in place in order to evacuate thousands of Russians who still remain in Syria if the situation in the country called for it.
However, a Russian intelligence source was quoted on Sunday as saying that the presence of over 300 marines on the ships was meant as a deterrent to keep countries hostile to the Bashar Assad regime — a key ally of the Kremlin — from landing special forces in the country.
“Russia should be prepared for any developments, as it believes the situation in Syria might reach its peak before Easter,” a Russian diplomatic source was quoted as saying.

Thread: Fleet of Russian warships reportedly en route to Syria to head off a Western attack.
 Quoting: Gerry52


It's like Obama's dragging feet has allowed everyone to get their chess players in position and, if they want, join the game. What was once ours (the ME) - is slipping away under weak leadership - or is that the plan????? (watch a superpower get knocked down to size..... how - by not responding, just here in the corner sitting on our hands)
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Remember all the stories about a possible nuclear accident in Isfahan, Iran?

Here's pictures of the city's LA-like smog problem - [link to www.payvand.com]

Meanwhile, In Libya the relatively new GNC president has chosen to go after the political power brokers in Benghazi (he's attacked both Islamists & Federalists recently). Just as he was getting significant bad press, there are growing reports that AQIM elements from Mali tried to assassinate him in Sebha, Libya last week. I think talking mice & a pumpkin carriage may have also been involved (complete fairy tale)

Here's an article - [link to www.libyaherald.com]
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Iran Targets Dissidents With 30,000-Strong Spy Army

...the Ministry of Intelligence and Security, or MOIS. According to a new report by the Federal Research Division at the Library of Congress, the spy agency counts as “the most powerful and well-supported ministry among all Iranian ministries” in terms of finances and support. The report, first obtained by Bill Gertz at The Washington Free Beacon, describes a 30,000 strong army of spies — the largest intelligence agency in the Middle East — responsible for assassinating political opponents, espionage, and, above all, crushing potential rivals to Tehran’s ruling elite.

But first note that the MOIS is distinct from the Quds Force, the combination special forces and CIA-styled intelligence wing of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps. According to the report, the MOIS is mainly a domestic agency directed at infiltrating regime opponents inside Iran — as well as dissident groups organized by Iranian expatriates around the world. It’s currently headed by cleric Heydar Moslehi, who the U.S. government has sanctioned for being allegedly responsible for “beatings, mental abuse, and sexual abuse” carried out against Iranian political prisoners....

See [link to www.wired.com] for complete article & link to Library of Congress Report
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I know it's from WND. Throwing it out there! Take it for what it's worth!!!

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Iran's nuclear bomb program complete
Source reveals secret site; last obstacle is to arm missiles.

Iran successfully has built a nuclear bomb with the help of Russia and North Korea and has enough weapons-grade uranium and plutonium for more, according to a source in the Revolutionary Guards intelligence unit.

The source, who has access to Iran’s nuclear program, said the Islamic regime is working out of seven nuclear sites, most unknown to the IAEA, and that its nuclear bomb program is complete.
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I know it's from WND. Throwing it out there! Take it for what it's worth!!!

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Iran's nuclear bomb program complete
Source reveals secret site; last obstacle is to arm missiles.

Iran successfully has built a nuclear bomb with the help of Russia and North Korea and has enough weapons-grade uranium and plutonium for more, according to a source in the Revolutionary Guards intelligence unit.

The source, who has access to Iran’s nuclear program, said the Islamic regime is working out of seven nuclear sites, most unknown to the IAEA, and that its nuclear bomb program is complete.
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verysad
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Iran's nuclear bomb program complete
Source reveals secret site; last obstacle is to arm missiles.

Iran successfully has built a nuclear bomb with the help of Russia and North Korea and has enough weapons-grade uranium and plutonium for more, according to a source in the Revolutionary Guards intelligence unit.

The source, who has access to Iran’s nuclear program, said the Islamic regime is working out of seven nuclear sites, most unknown to the IAEA, and that its nuclear bomb program is complete.
 Quoting: Steve5728


Sadly I report this is more true than not.
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Iran's nuclear bomb program complete
Source reveals secret site; last obstacle is to arm missiles.

Iran successfully has built a nuclear bomb with the help of Russia and North Korea and has enough weapons-grade uranium and plutonium for more, according to a source in the Revolutionary Guards intelligence unit.

The source, who has access to Iran’s nuclear program, said the Islamic regime is working out of seven nuclear sites, most unknown to the IAEA, and that its nuclear bomb program is complete.
 Quoting: Steve5728


Sadly I report this is more true than not.
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I hope you're wrong, but we all knew it was coming, or know it is coming.
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translated via google

Bundeswehr mission to Syrian border
Soldiers and "Patriots" on the way to Turkey


An advance team of two dozen German soldiers will be transferred to Turkey today. There they will prepare the application on the Syrian border. The German "Patriot"-defense systems are now shipped to Travemünde.

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Iran's nuclear bomb program complete
Source reveals secret site; last obstacle is to arm missiles.

Iran successfully has built a nuclear bomb with the help of Russia and North Korea and has enough weapons-grade uranium and plutonium for more, according to a source in the Revolutionary Guards intelligence unit.

The source, who has access to Iran’s nuclear program, said the Islamic regime is working out of seven nuclear sites, most unknown to the IAEA, and that its nuclear bomb program is complete.
 Quoting: Steve5728


Sadly I report this is more true than not.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Stupid question. Now that they have the bomb, will they use it? Or will they just pull a North Korea and just use it for blackmail?
So much, for the glory of Rome.
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Iran's nuclear bomb program complete
Source reveals secret site; last obstacle is to arm missiles.

Iran successfully has built a nuclear bomb with the help of Russia and North Korea and has enough weapons-grade uranium and plutonium for more, according to a source in the Revolutionary Guards intelligence unit.

The source, who has access to Iran’s nuclear program, said the Islamic regime is working out of seven nuclear sites, most unknown to the IAEA, and that its nuclear bomb program is complete.
 Quoting: Steve5728


Sadly I report this is more true than not.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Stupid question. Now that they have the bomb, will they use it? Or will they just pull a North Korea and just use it for blackmail?
 Quoting: BioReaper


Very doubtful. To even use it as blackmail, they would have to admit to having one. And to admit having one would mean to test one. I think they will deny ever having one to keep the world guessing and preventing any action by the west.
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Central African Republic - Rebels gain control of 2 more towns; South Africa sending in troops.

[link to edition.cnn.com]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


M23? The article doesn't say, it only says rebels. The military oncentrated to much tme and effort on Kony that it gave M23 time to expand become more powerful.
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Central African Republic - Rebels gain control of 2 more towns; South Africa sending in troops.

[link to edition.cnn.com]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


M23? The article doesn't say, it only says rebels. The military oncentrated to much tme and effort on Kony that it gave M23 time to expand become more powerful.
 Quoting: novamom


The rebels in CAR call themselves the Seleka (Seleka means "alliance" in the Sango language). Seleka is made up of five rebel groups - UFDF CPJP, CPSK. FDPC, and the Chadian group FPR.

UFDR - Union of Democratic Forces for Unity supported by Sudan.
CPJP - Convention of Patriots for Justice and Peace .
FDPC - Democratic Front of Central African People
CPSK - Wa Kodro Salute Patriotic Convention
FPR - Popular Front for Recovery

Note - all the groups have French names which explains why Acronyms don't match English-language names.

Source Wikipedia 2012–present Central African Republic conflict and a little additional DD research.

No Lords Resistance Army or M-23 but according to Gerry same MO.
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Is Venezuela providing operational support to Islamic terrorists?

That deadly serious question is increasingly troubling foreign policy and security experts as the South American country and Iran — which funds Hezbollah — move ever closer.

Despite deep cultural differences, a shared antagonism toward the US has drawn Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and his Iranian counterpart, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, into an unlikely political friendship in recent years...

Meanwhile, according to the Council on Hemispheric Affairs, a Washington, DC, nonprofit research group, there’s growing evidence that Hezbollah is infiltrating other parts of Latin America, taking advantage of widespread corruption and drug trafficking to raise funds for its activities in the Middle East...

[link to www.salon.com]
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FT - US oil imports will fall to their lowest level for more than 25 years next year, as production booms while demand grows only slowly, according to a government forecast.

The US Energy Information Administration predicted that net imports of liquid fuels, including crude oil and petroleum products, would fall to about 6m barrels per day in 2014, their lowest level since 1987 and only about half their peak levels of more than 12m during 2004-07.

[link to www.ft.com]
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FT - US oil imports will fall to their lowest level for more than 25 years next year, as production booms while demand grows only slowly, according to a government forecast.

The US Energy Information Administration predicted that net imports of liquid fuels, including crude oil and petroleum products, would fall to about 6m barrels per day in 2014, their lowest level since 1987 and only about half their peak levels of more than 12m during 2004-07.

[link to www.ft.com]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


I paid $2.65 a gallon today.
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Back to the Middle East...

Abbas, Meshaal en route to Cairo for Palestinian reconciliation: Abu Marzouk

Hamas delegation led by Khaled Meshaal will arrive in Cairo Tuesday to discuss Palestinian reconciliation with Egypt's President Morsi and PA head Mahmoud Abbas, says Hamas number-two Mousa Abu Marzouk.


[link to english.ahram.org.eg]
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What is the war index right now ?
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Iran's nuclear bomb program complete
Source reveals secret site; last obstacle is to arm missiles.

Iran successfully has built a nuclear bomb with the help of Russia and North Korea and has enough weapons-grade uranium and plutonium for more, according to a source in the Revolutionary Guards intelligence unit.

The source, who has access to Iran’s nuclear program, said the Islamic regime is working out of seven nuclear sites, most unknown to the IAEA, and that its nuclear bomb program is complete.
 Quoting: Steve5728


Sadly I report this is more true than not.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Stupid question. Now that they have the bomb, will they use it? Or will they just pull a North Korea and just use it for blackmail?
 Quoting: BioReaper


Ever watch Sum of All Fears . . . they could use terrorists to promote WWIII where the big boys fight eachother so that Iran comes out on top.
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What is the war index right now ?
 Quoting: Terviseks


We still have Syria within a two hour launching of a chemical weapons attack, this keep the Index extreme. Otherwise, Hamas is re-building, Hezbollah are on lock-down until Iran issues a go order. Iran is still doing what it does best behind the scnees along with North Korea. Israel sits on its hands until this summer. 10.9 with Syria, 9.0 if Syria could be trusted to not launch wmd's or the terrorists doing so. Israel is waiting to get through the elections, however, if Bibi is worried about the polls, he could always promote some brillinat military move to help himself in the polls like what is talked about in Maerica, the tail that wags the dog or October surprise.
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'Concern over possible uranium stockpile in Syria'

'Financial Times' reports that up to 50 tons of enriched uranium may be in Syria, a stockpile large enough for five atomic bombs.

[link to www.jpost.com]


And another thorn in the issue of how to know when Iran has actually built a bomb or acquired the uranium necessary for a bomb. Makes sense that Syria gives Iran its 20% grade unranium while Iran converts some of hers to keep intelligence agencies thinking that Iran is actually losing its supply and so Iran's nuclear clock moves forward, but the World bodies moves that nuclear clock back. Brilliant!

Add into that mix, North Korea and the fact she transported the 50 tons of uranium to Syria in the first place without detection and could likewise do the same with Iran.
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And finally before I exit to my bunker again, it would behoove Iran to mess with the Israeli elections in its own ways too!

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