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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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Fleet of Russian warships reportedly en route to Syria to head off a Western attack.
Flotilla of five Russian warships laden with hundreds of troops, which is headed toward Syria, is a show of force meant to deter Western armies from intervening in the war-torn nation, the London-based Sunday Times reported.
Previous reports cited Russian diplomats to the effect that the vessels were being put in place in order to evacuate thousands of Russians who still remain in Syria if the situation in the country called for it.
However, a Russian intelligence source was quoted on Sunday as saying that the presence of over 300 marines on the ships was meant as a deterrent to keep countries hostile to the Bashar Assad regime — a key ally of the Kremlin — from landing special forces in the country.
“Russia should be prepared for any developments, as it believes the situation in Syria might reach its peak before Easter,” a Russian diplomatic source was quoted as saying.

Thread: Fleet of Russian warships reportedly en route to Syria to head off a Western attack.
 Quoting: Gerry52


It's like Obama's dragging feet has allowed everyone to get their chess players in position and, if they want, join the game. What was once ours (the ME) - is slipping away under weak leadership - or is that the plan????? (watch a superpower get knocked down to size..... how - by not responding, just here in the corner sitting on our hands)
 Quoting: DblTapViper


Agreed, DTV

There are no accidents - the Christmas/ New Years holiday has provided plenty of distraction and preoccupation with the numerous domestic issues taking the light (specifically in the US) in the mass media conditioning machine.
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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Fleet of Russian warships reportedly en route to Syria to head off a Western attack.
Flotilla of five Russian warships laden with hundreds of troops, which is headed toward Syria, is a show of force meant to deter Western armies from intervening in the war-torn nation, the London-based Sunday Times reported.
Previous reports cited Russian diplomats to the effect that the vessels were being put in place in order to evacuate thousands of Russians who still remain in Syria if the situation in the country called for it.
However, a Russian intelligence source was quoted on Sunday as saying that the presence of over 300 marines on the ships was meant as a deterrent to keep countries hostile to the Bashar Assad regime — a key ally of the Kremlin — from landing special forces in the country.
“Russia should be prepared for any developments, as it believes the situation in Syria might reach its peak before Easter,” a Russian diplomatic source was quoted as saying.

Thread: Fleet of Russian warships reportedly en route to Syria to head off a Western attack.
 Quoting: Gerry52


It's like Obama's dragging feet has allowed everyone to get their chess players in position and, if they want, join the game. What was once ours (the ME) - is slipping away under weak leadership - or is that the plan????? (watch a superpower get knocked down to size..... how - by not responding, just here in the corner sitting on our hands)
 Quoting: DblTapViper


Agreed, DTV

There are no accidents - the Christmas/ New Years holiday has provided plenty of distraction and preoccupation with the numerous domestic issues taking the light (specifically in the US) in the mass media conditioning machine.
 Quoting: ClydeX


clappa
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And we know Israel/ Syria/ Turkey/ Iran/ Jordan/ Lebanon/ Egypt/ Libya/ et al still exist.

Add in Pakistan/ Turkey/ various locales in Africa/ and the heightened usurping and unraveling of the fabric of our own country - I fear what will be/ be used as the next distraction.
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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Analysis: Hagel, the Middle East and the White House

Minutes after US President Barack Obama announced his choice of Chuck Hagel to be the next US defense secretary Monday, White House spokesman Jay Carney took the podium for his daily press briefing and was confronted with questions on the Republican former senator’s views on Iran and Israel...

And on Iran, Obama has repeatedly stressed the importance of imposing stringent sanctions and noted that military force remains an option.

Hagel, in a 2006 op-ed, spoke of the many dangers posed by a military strike on Iran and argued it would not solve the problem. He also voted against several (though not all) pieces of legislation imposing sanctions during his time in the Senate. More recently he said the military option should be left on the table.

Despite these differences, generally speaking cabinet secretaries follow the direction of the White House, and that’s particularly so when the occupant is Obama.

“Barack Obama is the most controlling, dominating president [on] foreign policy since Richard Nixon,” said Aaron David Miller, a former Middle East advisor with the State Department, now a Woodrow Wilson Center scholar. “It doesn’t matter what Chuck Hagel thinks on Iran sanctions, Hamas, Hezbollah.”

But even if the president mostly relies on his White House team and his own counsel in making national security decisions, the defense secretary does have a role in policy.

“The secretary of defense is a key member of the cabinet, a key member of the national security team, who has a very important voice at the table in foreign policy deliberations and in particular the use of force,” said Robert Danin, a former National Security Council advisor on Middle East issues...

[link to www.jpost.com]
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Not Much Here...

Statement from SecDef Panetta's mtg today with Israeli Minister of Defense Ehud Barak

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Looks like Mali (entire country) might fall to Islamists

Steffi in Timbuktu (@emensah08)
1/10/13, 11:43 AM
MT @tommymiles: Just saw (unverified) claim military among those leaving Mopti. That would be bad // That would be NOT surprising. #Mali

Same information being reported by Peter Tinti (Western journo based in Bamako).

Mopti was where Malian army & the new militias based themselves after the fled the north. If it falls (or has fallen) there is nothing stopping the Islamists from going onto Bamako (capital)

Islamists have held the North since last June. The North is a territory larger than France but it is sparsely populated (less than 500k). Mali has a population of 14M - mostly living in the South...

Note - the numbers are from memory; so they maybe slightly off - but the fact that most Malians live in the South is correct.
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My friends at DEBKA are passing around a much discussed conversation as of late of a forewarning directed to what Hagel will bring to the table with Iran. Israel again, starts the war-drum beating as she forewarns that Hagel would guarantee no support from the US on Iran. Thus, Israel is again going into details as to new war preparations against Iran for the "public" passing of red marker lines drawn by Bibi.

PSSSSSTTTTTT! It is too late and Hagel does not run the Whitehouse or the Defense, it is all a plot to disable and eliminate Israel.
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My friends at DEBKA are passing around a much discussed conversation as of late of a forewarning directed to what Hagel will bring to the table with Iran. Israel again, starts the war-drum beating as she forewarns that Hagel would guarantee no support from the US on Iran. Thus, Israel is again going into details as to new war preparations against Iran for the "public" passing of red marker lines drawn by Bibi.

PSSSSSTTTTTT! It is too late and Hagel does not run the Whitehouse or the Defense, it is all a plot to disable and eliminate Israel.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Hussein is stabbing Israel in the back much faster than I anticipated !

He's won a second term so I guess he can do whatever he wants now !

And it's not just his foreign policies that stink, his work at home is disgusting to say the least...he's about to piss on the 2nd Amendment and God knows what's next after banning the guns !

Gestapo police state !

:obpiss:
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Satement from NRA

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Oops "statement"
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Looks like Mali is serious...

Emergency Meeting of UN Security Council on Mali tonight at 6 PM

[link to www.innercitypress.com]

And the UN's Special Envoy for the Sahel, Romano Prodi, is in Bamako (Capitol of Mali) today...

[link to www.innercitypress.com]
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My friends at DEBKA are passing around a much discussed conversation as of late of a forewarning directed to what Hagel will bring to the table with Iran. Israel again, starts the war-drum beating as she forewarns that Hagel would guarantee no support from the US on Iran. Thus, Israel is again going into details as to new war preparations against Iran for the "public" passing of red marker lines drawn by Bibi.

PSSSSSTTTTTT! It is too late and Hagel does not run the Whitehouse or the Defense, it is all a plot to disable and eliminate Israel.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


bump
A word of caution to neophyte Martini drinkers: When taken to excess, this perfectly civilized drink can lead directly to uncivilized behavior.
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My friends at DEBKA are passing around a much discussed conversation as of late of a forewarning directed to what Hagel will bring to the table with Iran. Israel again, starts the war-drum beating as she forewarns that Hagel would guarantee no support from the US on Iran. Thus, Israel is again going into details as to new war preparations against Iran for the "public" passing of red marker lines drawn by Bibi.

PSSSSSTTTTTT! It is too late and Hagel does not run the Whitehouse or the Defense, it is all a plot to disable and eliminate Israel.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


bump
 Quoting: jw 2305


watch out America as gun laws tighten up. Civil unrest is next.
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So interesting that Obahmah allows guns to run into Mexico killing people readily, but here in America, no support for similar weapons. This should blow up in Holders face.
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My friends at DEBKA are passing around a much discussed conversation as of late of a forewarning directed to what Hagel will bring to the table with Iran. Israel again, starts the war-drum beating as she forewarns that Hagel would guarantee no support from the US on Iran. Thus, Israel is again going into details as to new war preparations against Iran for the "public" passing of red marker lines drawn by Bibi.

PSSSSSTTTTTT! It is too late and Hagel does not run the Whitehouse or the Defense, it is all a plot to disable and eliminate Israel.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


AND SO IT BEGINS, the new media push by Bibi against Iran.


Netanyahu to US Senators: My priority is Iran nuclear marchIn meeting with visiting US Senators, Netanyahu expresses appreciation of US moves against Tehran; Minority Leader McConnell touts "broad bipartisan support for Israel"; IAEA chief "not optimistic" about upcoming Iran talks.
[link to www.jpost.com]
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Russia alarmed by lack of agreement with Iran on nuclear talks
[link to www.ynetnews.com]


Supposedly there is no agreement on a date and place for talks after all.

WE ALL will be very surprised when it turns out that Iran simply invokes its nuclear abilities upon all of us. Some say it will happen before Iran's Ahmidinanut ends his term of office this year.

mahmoud




nuke
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Most of the people here think that the 3. World War starts from the Middle East. Jesus Christ gave me different information:

“Turkey, the south of Greece, Romania and Albania will be suddenly a theatre of war. This will be the first countries, which are involved, in the big war. Nevertheless, the war will come from the Balkans.”
(Jesus Christ; 99 07 26)

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Thread: French Troops Enter Mali
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 Quoting: Swinburnian


I called it. In October, 2012 I predicted western intervention in Mali during the first quarter of 2013...

Today - French troops intervened w/ US logistical support...

Thread: Watch as it Develops - The Staged War Against Islamists in Northern Mali
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 Quoting: Swinburnian


I called it. In October, 2012 I predicted western intervention in Mali during the first quarter of 2013...

Today - French troops intervened w/ US logistical support...

Thread: Watch as it Develops - The Staged War Against Islamists in Northern Mali
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Well done!
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I want to throw this out,,,any thoughts ?

Panetta: US Troops Securing Syria’s Chemical Weapons Not an Option in ‘Hostile Atmosphere
[link to abcnews.go.com]


and this thread

Thread: BREAKING: Reports that the FSA has bombed a convoy, killing Russian and Iranian generals, along with the Iranian ambassador.

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Political issue of why Bibi's budget is so much in debt and then it comes out Israel has been using an absurd amount of money towards defense. It turns out it was all for an attack on Iran that has not happened. Quite funny that Bibi can be attacked from the left because he did not attack Iran and he can be attacked from the ignt cause he did not stop Iran and he could be attacked by Iran anytime cause he did not hit Iran when he could.

Chew on that today.
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Israel deserves to be destroyed and ALL Jews deserve to be rounded up and exterminated once and for all!
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fuck you
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Israel deserves to be destroyed and ALL Jews deserve to be rounded up and exterminated once and for all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32033224


Clean up on isle 5

Clean up on isle 5, please

Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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Israel deserves to be destroyed and ALL Jews deserve to be rounded up and exterminated once and for all!
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Someone get this man his meds.

Has anyone heard from NovaMom?

She has a friend in Africa & Mali is "busy"

There are reports that Islamists have already shot down 2 French helicopters; French fighter jets from as far away as Chad (and Chad is far away) are seeing action.

In Libya, there were reports that US had to "stay in" because when they tried to turn over operations to the Europeans, it didn't go well.

No matter what you hear in Western Media, I'm getting reports from ground (through twitter) that its not going so well...

Does anyone know if USMC deployment from Camp Lejune is related?
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Seen a few drones fly over the mideastern part of michigan about 15 minutes ago. I have heard that the government are using drones over the US but this is the first I have seen them. Has any one else seen many of these?
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Seen a few drones fly over the mideastern part of michigan about 15 minutes ago. I have heard that the government are using drones over the US but this is the first I have seen them. Has any one else seen many of these?
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I have..was last last summer when I actually saw it
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We see all kinds of strange looking things flying around in suburban MD. I know there are drones up there; I just personally don't remember seeing them...

Gerry question -

He told us to look for things like Internet outages... Well I had twitter outage...

I've followed reporters and a couple of active tweeters in Bamako, Mali for months. My twitter timeline has been all Mali all the time for a couple of days. I checked it at lunchtime & there were no tweets from anyone actually inside Mali. I thought that might mean power was cut in Bamako; but to make sure I did a twitter search on #Mali. Several recent tweets from Bamako (all from people I follow yet tweets weren't in my timeline came up).

I was going to re-tweet a tweet from Steffi in Timbuktu (German woman) about a statement from Ansar Dine. Before I could hit retweet the tweet literally went blank - all the writing disappeared. Then my #Mali search results changed (in front of my eyes) and the results were only media tweets. Just checked twitter a few minutes ago - tweets from people in Mali have returned.

My guess was that someone (USG?) were censoring tweets about Mali due to Western military involvement. But it must have been a short-term thing (maybe b/c no one actually supports the other side? Drug-dealing racists gang-rapists - they give averyone reason to hate)

Anyway - my question is - Does the disappearing tweet meaning anything re: US involvement? b/c I'm really hoping we don't have to bail the French out (this time)...
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Israel deserves to be destroyed and ALL Jews deserve to be rounded up and exterminated once and for all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32033224


Clean up on isle 5

Clean up on isle 5, please

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beerhat
yes sir!
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We see all kinds of strange looking things flying around in suburban MD. I know there are drones up there; I just personally don't remember seeing them...

Gerry question -

He told us to look for things like Internet outages... Well I had twitter outage...

I've followed reporters and a couple of active tweeters in Bamako, Mali for months. My twitter timeline has been all Mali all the time for a couple of days. I checked it at lunchtime & there were no tweets from anyone actually inside Mali. I thought that might mean power was cut in Bamako; but to make sure I did a twitter search on #Mali. Several recent tweets from Bamako (all from people I follow yet tweets weren't in my timeline came up).

I was going to re-tweet a tweet from Steffi in Timbuktu (German woman) about a statement from Ansar Dine. Before I could hit retweet the tweet literally went blank - all the writing disappeared. Then my #Mali search results changed (in front of my eyes) and the results were only media tweets. Just checked twitter a few minutes ago - tweets from people in Mali have returned.

My guess was that someone (USG?) were censoring tweets about Mali due to Western military involvement. But it must have been a short-term thing (maybe b/c no one actually supports the other side? Drug-dealing racists gang-rapists - they give averyone reason to hate)

Anyway - my question is - Does the disappearing tweet meaning anything re: US involvement? b/c I'm really hoping we don't have to bail the French out (this time)...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


We have had a few strange things flying around here in Northern VA too.. we also have had a ton more military air traffic (but that doesn't really mean much of anything). I sent yo a message :)

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