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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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I'm feeling kinda dumb, but how do we know these are their actual twitter accounts? Can't anyone make a twitter account with any name?
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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Yes - there are parody & fake accounts on twitter....The GNC President & GNC PM both had people set up fake twitter accounts in their names (Zeidan & Magariaf)

Anyone could pretend to be Rami el-Obeidi & Noman Bentoman...

BUT - I've followed these specific accounts for over a year. I've seen them interact w/ prominent Midddle East journalists and then comments they've made have appeared in print. E.g. Rami often interacts w/ Rana Jawad from BBC & Jomana Kardesh from CNN.

I've seen both men interact w/ prominent Libyan politicians. Rami has provided updates on breaking news in Libya that could only come from someone in the know. When there is a crisis, other prominent tweeters ask him for information.

Noman often links to articles from his employer Chatham House - if he was fake wouldn't they shut account down?

Most telling, the Libyan English language twitter community is rather small. They "out" the fake accounts quickly. These are the twitter accounts of Rami el-Obeidi & Noman Benotman...

What's been sad to watch is all the cases in which members of the Libyan twitter community have been injured/killed. It's so common, it must be intentional. You've followed someone for a year who is just a catchy name & a flag (or other symbol); then you hear they are in jail (or dead) and you finally see their face. That's been difficult (and I have no connection to Libya other than twitter "friends"). Anyway, I feel confident that the tweeters I follow from Libya are legit...
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Thank you Darby.
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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Thank you Darby.
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No problem... It took me a good six months to figure who the legitimate Libyan tweeters were... And I still fall for Libyan rumors (they are rumors spread by Libyans but still BS)...
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There is no future...

From an interview with Israeli broadcaster Shlomi Eldar:

A few days after the end of Operation Pillar of Defense, I gave a talk at a Herzliya high school. The children, who said they came from good homes, told me we have to kill all the Arabs, including the Israeli Arabs, because where do they get off thinking they will get control of the country. Their ideal is to go into the army and kill as many Arabs as possible. That’s one side of the picture, Israeli youth, the new generation, living in an atmosphere of demonizing the Palestinians, which is something the Israeli media are responsible for in no small measure. The other side of the picture is the young generation in Gaza, a child of five or nine. Let’s say he is not wounded, but a four-ton bomb landed next to his house. Do you know that in Operation Pillar of Defense, not one pane of glass remained intact in the whole of Gaza? It’s a tactic of creating sonic booms to frighten people without hurting them. A child who has a bomb like that land next to him can’t hear anything for the next three days. What does he think about the Jews afterward? And where will we end up, if this is how Jewish youngsters think about Arabs?

Nowhere good.

We are on a nothing-to-lose track. Which is why I say there is no future.
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You are very reserved.

I maintain reserve all the time.

As a defense mechanism?

Yes.

What does it defend you against?

I safeguard myself, and I need to safeguard myself against a host of things. I will tell you something I have never told anyone, and I hope I will not regret telling you. During Operation Cast Lead I came into possession of material about very grim events relating to the idea that Israel was deliberately “going crazy.” Testimonies, images and much more. So many people were killed there. I took it all and put it in an envelope. I told Reudar Benziman, who was CEO of Channel 10 News at the time, what I had. He told me, “Work on it.” I told him I couldn’t. Because that’s the truth; I couldn’t. If I had verified what I heard, I would not be able to live with it. I couldn’t have evoked the “rotten apples” metaphor. I still have the material in a closed room. I didn’t give it to anyone. When there was talk about a commission of inquiry, I said I would be ready to give them the material & let them check it out, not me. I’m not touching it. I’m not capable. I can’t. I, too, understand my limits.

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Someone just took one bag out of my garbage...

We were on vacation last week (missed trash pick-up); so last night be took 4 full cans to the curb.

Just before 6am a truck stopped in front of our neighbor's house. A man got out & walked to our trash cans. He selected one of the middle cans. He carefully removed the top 3 or 4 bags from the can (all of the cans are overfilled). Then he took one bag out & replaced the top bags.

He took the one selected bag, put it in the back of his truck, and left.

It was half-dark, so I didn't really see him or the truck that clearly. He was tall & thin, wearing a tan jacket, and he was wearing gloves...

When he was doing it; I thought maybe he was adding his garbage to our garbage "the old dump & run". I wasn't watching closely when he first got out of the truck... BUT he clearly took a bag (one of our bags) with him...

Why did he do it & what should I do? It would sound crazy if I sent a letter to Sen. Mikulski, right? I'm not sure what I should do...
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Sounds like someone used your garbage as a drop-off point. It would be pretty easy to place something in an unlocked can in a bag and describe this to another for later pickup. Since he stopped in front of the neighbor's house, he was probably checking house numbers and pulled over when he was close.

Never thought of using a garbage can that way before, but it's not difficult to imagine. It would also avoid normal suspicions. Garbage bags are one of the very few containers that aren't locked down these days.
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
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There is no future...

From an interview with Israeli broadcaster Shlomi Eldar:

A few days after the end of Operation Pillar of Defense, I gave a talk at a Herzliya high school. The children, who said they came from good homes, told me we have to kill all the Arabs, including the Israeli Arabs, because where do they get off thinking they will get control of the country. Their ideal is to go into the army and kill as many Arabs as possible. That’s one side of the picture, Israeli youth, the new generation, living in an atmosphere of demonizing the Palestinians, which is something the Israeli media are responsible for in no small measure. The other side of the picture is the young generation in Gaza, a child of five or nine. Let’s say he is not wounded, but a four-ton bomb landed next to his house. Do you know that in Operation Pillar of Defense, not one pane of glass remained intact in the whole of Gaza? It’s a tactic of creating sonic booms to frighten people without hurting them. A child who has a bomb like that land next to him can’t hear anything for the next three days. What does he think about the Jews afterward? And where will we end up, if this is how Jewish youngsters think about Arabs?

Nowhere good.

We are on a nothing-to-lose track. Which is why I say there is no future.
...

You are very reserved.

I maintain reserve all the time.

As a defense mechanism?

Yes.

What does it defend you against?

I safeguard myself, and I need to safeguard myself against a host of things. I will tell you something I have never told anyone, and I hope I will not regret telling you. During Operation Cast Lead I came into possession of material about very grim events relating to the idea that Israel was deliberately “going crazy.” Testimonies, images and much more. So many people were killed there. I took it all and put it in an envelope. I told Reudar Benziman, who was CEO of Channel 10 News at the time, what I had. He told me, “Work on it.” I told him I couldn’t. Because that’s the truth; I couldn’t. If I had verified what I heard, I would not be able to live with it. I couldn’t have evoked the “rotten apples” metaphor. I still have the material in a closed room. I didn’t give it to anyone. When there was talk about a commission of inquiry, I said I would be ready to give them the material & let them check it out, not me. I’m not touching it. I’m not capable. I can’t. I, too, understand my limits.

[link to www.arabist.net]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Unfortunate or not, these are the facts. It is what it is!

I will take you out before you have a chance to take me out!

The MAJORITY of Arabs and Persians want to see every Jew (Israelis especially) burn in an oven. Enough already!!!

The author is correct: THERE IS NO FUTURE!

AM YISROEL CHAI!!!

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I wonder what was in the papers, which would grimly expose Israel.

Must be photos of a thousand dead children:

Israeli forces killed more than 1,300 Palestinians, many of them women and children

[link to www.globalsecurity.org]

Last Edited by pool on 01/21/2013 12:47 AM
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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German Patriot missiles arrive in Turkey

A German cargo ship carrying components of the Patriot surface-to-air missile defense system has docked in the Turkish Mediterranean port of Iskenderun, Anadolu news agency reported. The German missiles are expected to be deployed to the southern Kahramanmaras province by the start of February to defend Turkey's border with Syria. The Netherlands and the US have also each deployed two batteries to protect other stretches of the 900-kilometer frontier. A day earlier, 240 German troops landed in Turkey as part of a NATO mission aimed at preventing the Syrian conflict from spilling across the border.

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I wonder what was in the papers, which would grimly expose Israel.

Must be photos of a thousand dead children:

Israeli forces killed more than 1,300 Palestinians, many of them women and children

[link to www.globalsecurity.org]
 Quoting: pool


Collateral damage is a bitch, isn't it!

Oh well, sometimes you've got to pay the price for your actions.

You should have thought about that first Hamas!!!

You reap what you sew!!!

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my husband very careful what he puts in garbage. he is retired LE>

When he was doing it; I thought maybe he was adding his garbage to our garbage "the old dump & run". I wasn't watching closely when he first got out of the truck... BUT he clearly took a bag (one of our bags) with him...

Why did he do it & what should I do?
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Al Arabiya English @AlArabiya_Eng 17m
#BreakingNews: Russia’s emergency ministry is sending two airplanes to Beirut to help Russians leave Syria: Interfax

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Little clean up


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Power is out in Damascus and south and Russia is evacuating. If anyone cared, this could be something, but I think we are all numb from the lack of action so far.
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Power is out in Damascus and south and Russia is evacuating. If anyone cared, this could be something, but I think we are all numb from the lack of action so far.
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Power is out in Damascus and south and Russia is evacuating. If anyone cared, this could be something, but I think we are all numb from the lack of action so far.
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Numb is a good description. We are approaching 2 years since this all started in Syria. Still not sure if we are going to see some climatic event (Western intervention, FSA victories in Damascus and Latika, Assad assassination, coup, etc) that brings this all to an end or a continuing conflict which further grinds Syria into the failed state category.
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Power is out in Damascus and south and Russia is evacuating. If anyone cared, this could be something, but I think we are all numb from the lack of action so far.
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pretty much MM, BTW hi everyone hi
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Power is out in Damascus and south and Russia is evacuating. If anyone cared, this could be something, but I think we are all numb from the lack of action so far.
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pretty much MM, BTW hi everyone hi
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Power is out in Damascus and south and Russia is evacuating. If anyone cared, this could be something, but I think we are all numb from the lack of action so far.
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Thanks MM. Inauguration surprise???
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Power is out in Damascus and south and Russia is evacuating. If anyone cared, this could be something, but I think we are all numb from the lack of action so far.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Thanks MM. Inauguration surprise???
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Hi, guys. It wouldn't be the first time. Remember the Carter/Reagan hand off.
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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Power is out in Damascus and south and Russia is evacuating. If anyone cared, this could be something, but I think we are all numb from the lack of action so far.
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Thanks MM. Inauguration surprise???
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Hi, guys. It wouldn't be the first time. Remember the Carter/Reagan hand off.
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I wouldn't put anything past anyone at this point!
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Power is out in Damascus and south and Russia is evacuating. If anyone cared, this could be something, but I think we are all numb from the lack of action so far.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


Thanks MM. Inauguration surprise???
 Quoting: Steve5728


Hi, guys. It wouldn't be the first time. Remember the Carter/Reagan hand off.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


I wouldn't put anything past anyone at this point!
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Me neither, but I've had the crud for so long, my brain isn't working right. (Don't laugh too hard!lol)
They also serve who stand and wait. John Milton
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Thanks MM. Inauguration surprise???
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Hi, guys. It wouldn't be the first time. Remember the Carter/Reagan hand off.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


I wouldn't put anything past anyone at this point!
 Quoting: Steve5728


Me neither, but I've had the crud for so long, my brain isn't working right. (Don't laugh too hard!lol)
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You just can't make this s**t up!!!

LOL!!!

ohyeah
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Hi, guys. It wouldn't be the first time. Remember the Carter/Reagan hand off.
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I wouldn't put anything past anyone at this point!
 Quoting: Steve5728


Me neither, but I've had the crud for so long, my brain isn't working right. (Don't laugh too hard!lol)
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


You just can't make this s**t up!!!

LOL!!!

ohyeah
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As soon as I typed it, I could almost hear my brother saying it never worked right to start with! I just thought screw it and hit post anyway. I surrender! If I cough one more time........grumpy2
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OT - Did you hear about this?

Senior BP Executive Among Dead Hostages in Amenas Algeria

A senior executive at BP, who lived in London, was among those who died in the attack on the Algerian gas plant, adding to suggestions that the terrorists may have had inside information.

Carlos Estrada, who had worked for the company for 18 years and risen to be vice–president, lived with his wife and family in an exclusive flat in Chelsea, West London.

Sources told The Daily Telegraph that Mr Estrada, who was born in Bogota, Colombia, made no more than one or two visits to the site a year and was likely to be accompanied by other senior executives.

[link to www.businessinsider.com]

Note - Other UK Nationals & Americans (BP Executives?) still unaccounted for.
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OT - Did you hear about this?

Senior BP Executive Among Dead Hostages in Amenas Algeria

A senior executive at BP, who lived in London, was among those who died in the attack on the Algerian gas plant, adding to suggestions that the terrorists may have had inside information.

Carlos Estrada, who had worked for the company for 18 years and risen to be vice–president, lived with his wife and family in an exclusive flat in Chelsea, West London.

Sources told The Daily Telegraph that Mr Estrada, who was born in Bogota, Colombia, made no more than one or two visits to the site a year and was likely to be accompanied by other senior executives.

[link to www.businessinsider.com]

Note - Other UK Nationals & Americans (BP Executives?) still unaccounted for.
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coincidence or planned with inside help from someone at the plant?
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OT - Did you hear about this?

Senior BP Executive Among Dead Hostages in Amenas Algeria

A senior executive at BP, who lived in London, was among those who died in the attack on the Algerian gas plant, adding to suggestions that the terrorists may have had inside information.

Carlos Estrada, who had worked for the company for 18 years and risen to be vice–president, lived with his wife and family in an exclusive flat in Chelsea, West London.

Sources told The Daily Telegraph that Mr Estrada, who was born in Bogota, Colombia, made no more than one or two visits to the site a year and was likely to be accompanied by other senior executives.

[link to www.businessinsider.com]

Note - Other UK Nationals & Americans (BP Executives?) still unaccounted for.
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


coincidence or planned with inside help from someone at the plant?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Add this to the mix...

WTH - Contrary to Earlier Reports - French Jets Headed to Mali DID NOT Fly Over Algerian Airspace

On January 13, Laurent Fabius, French Minister of Foreign Affairs, announced that French Rafale aircraft flew over Algeria to bomb sites around Gao, Mali, involving the Algerian government in the conflict in Mali. Today, Jeune Afrique learns that the fighters are actually passed over Morocco.

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Terrorists attacked Amenas because the Algerian government allowed French flyovers but the Algerian government had in fact not allowed the flyovers... It was disinfo - from the French FM... AND they killed at least one BIG FISH and They are blaming terrorist camps in Libya
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Power is out in Damascus and south and Russia is evacuating. If anyone cared, this could be something, but I think we are all numb from the lack of action so far.
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pretty much MM, BTW hi everyone hi
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peace
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20:51
Official: Syrian stray bullet wounds man in Turkey (AP)

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Official: Syrian stray bullet wounds man in Turkey (AP)

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 Quoting: Swinburnian


Syria potential set-up; Algeria seems to be a set-up....

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