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WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away)

 
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I don't think anyone's posted this on the thread yet...

Hagel's comments on North Korea -

North Korea is "skating very close to a dangerous line" after weeks of saber-rattling, U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel warned Wednesday as northeast Asia watched for an expected missile test.

"Their actions and their words have not helped defuse a combustible situation," Hagel told reporters at the Pentagon. He said the United States and its allies want to see North Korean rhetoric "ratcheted down," but if that doesn't happen, "our country is fully prepared to deal with any contingency."

[link to www.cnn.com]
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We can all worry about this...

War With North Korea: Smallpox and Bioweapons Are the Real Threat, Not Nukes

... Yet though we may learn to ignore their threats of nuclear and artillery and cyber attack, perhaps we should listen to the threats they do not make. North Korea is not a signatory to the Chemical Weapons Convention. It is a signatory to the Biological Weapons Convention, but that treaty, lacking verification mechanisms, is little hindrance to even the most responsible of states. Working with "dual use" technologies in secret, North Korean researchers could have developed a great many things....

According to the International Institute on Strategic Studies, North Korea may be able to produce nerve, blister, blood, and choking agents, anthrax, bubonic plague, and cholera, with South Korea estimating its overall stockpile at 2,500 to 5,000 tonnes. But all this data is wildly uncertain....

[link to www.policymic.com]

AND - North Korea is known for launching sneaky attacks that they can't immediately be blamed for...Wouldn't a bio attack be just their style?
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7:30 am in Korea. Thoughts, anyone?
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The missiles are fueled. They have to fire soon or they'll have to dump the fuel and service them. DPRK doesn't have the money or the resources to be doing that.
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7:30 am in Korea. Thoughts, anyone?
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The missiles are fueled. They have to fire soon or they'll have to dump the fuel and service them. DPRK doesn't have the money or the resources to be doing that.
 Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus


true....so at most they have a few more days I think...truly shocked they did not fire yet...don't honestly know what is the hold up on their end
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7:30 am in Korea. Thoughts, anyone?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


The missiles are fueled. They have to fire soon or they'll have to dump the fuel and service them. DPRK doesn't have the money or the resources to be doing that.
 Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus


Steve Herman (@W7VOA)
4/10/13, 7:28 PM
Wed. night TV newscast from Pyongyang contained not a single word of war talk nor referenced missiles, cyber attacks or Kaesong. #DPRK
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Nathan Hunt ventured last night that they may be waiting for when Kerry goes to Pyongyang Friday....sort of a 'display of their might and resolve' type of thing.
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Nathan Hunt ventured last night that they may be waiting for when Kerry goes to Pyongyang Friday....sort of a 'display of their might and resolve' type of thing.
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I've read the same thing....
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Slightly OT - Top Economic Advisers Forecast War and Unrest

Pretty much summarizes every GLP post on economics over from the last month -

[link to stateofglobe.com]
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Nathan Hunt ventured last night that they may be waiting for when Kerry goes to Pyongyang Friday....sort of a 'display of their might and resolve' type of thing.
 Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus


Here's Chinese report on Kerry's visit. He arrives Friday afternoon local time - so middle of the night Thursday for us on East Coast of US

[link to news.xinhuanet.com]

Here's what State Department posted about trip -

Secretary Kerry will travel to the Republic of Korea, China, and Japan from April 12-15 to meet with his counterparts. He will discuss a range of bilateral and multilateral issues, reaffirming the Administration’s commitment to further broaden and enhance U.S. economic, security, and strategic interests in the Asia-Pacific region. The Secretary will arrive in Seoul on April 12, continue on to Beijing on April 13, and travel to Tokyo on April 14.

Secretary Kerry will depart Tokyo for Washington on April 15.


[link to www.state.gov]
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Slightly OT - Top Economic Advisers Forecast War and Unrest

Pretty much summarizes every GLP post on economics over from the last month -

[link to stateofglobe.com]
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Darby...Sent you a PM

Last Edited by Gerry52 on 04/10/2013 08:55 PM
I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas!
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Slightly OT - Top Economic Advisers Forecast War and Unrest

Pretty much summarizes every GLP post on economics over from the last month -

[link to stateofglobe.com]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Darby...Sent you a PM
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Thanks, I got it.
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DPRK urges westerners to leave ROK saying not wanting to hurt them, then threatens strike on atomic plants in Japan
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DPRK urges westerners to leave ROK saying not wanting to hurt them, then threatens strike on atomic plants in Japan
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it's getting really old....
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DPRK urges westerners to leave ROK saying not wanting to hurt them, then threatens strike on atomic plants in Japan
 Quoting: Steve5728


it's getting really old....
 Quoting: godzilla85


Trust me...Lil Kimmy is looking for an offramp, but he didn't think far enough ahead to build one on this road to war. He will probably launch one or two test missles. One of them will probably go over Japan. Japan will probably shoot it down as a slap to his face. He doesn't have nukes he can launch, so no one is worried about that. As far as his tunnels go, if it gets that far, we currently have the appropriate aircraft and munitions in the theater to destroy most of the tunnels...for the most part they have been mapped.
I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas!
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DPRK urges westerners to leave ROK saying not wanting to hurt them, then threatens strike on atomic plants in Japan
 Quoting: Steve5728


it's getting really old....
 Quoting: godzilla85


Trust me...Lil Kimmy is looking for an offramp, but he didn't think far enough ahead to build one on this road to war. He will probably launch one or two test missles. One of them will probably go over Japan. Japan will probably shoot it down as a slap to his face. He doesn't have nukes he can launch, so no one is worried about that. As far as his tunnels go, if it gets that far, we currently have the appropriate aircraft and munitions in the theater to destroy most of the tunnels...for the most part they have been mapped.
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starting to think he's not going to do anything and will probably be offed by his own people in a few months time...then we'll have to deal with some other ahole then do this dance again probably, then again...I'm wrong most of the time anyway tounge
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N. Korean Paper Warns of Japan Nuke Catastrophe

[link to www.japanherald.com]
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N. Korean Paper Warns of Japan Nuke Catastrophe

[link to www.japanherald.com]
 Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus


there a couple of years late...was called Fukushima...man they are not on top of things over there
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I think North korea will attack Hawaii and make another pearl harbor. With those 2 missing torpedo submarines.

They will launch a nuclear tipped torpedo in the port.

I made a threat about a 2 hours ago or something.
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The only card NK has is the ability to put a gun type fission device on one of their subs and send their sailors on a suicide mission
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Kyodo quotes a Japanese defense official that a #DPRK missile launcher is in a "raised position."
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Kyodo quotes a Japanese defense official that a #DPRK missile launcher is in a "raised position."
 Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus


Here's link to RT article -

[link to on.rt.com]
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N. Korean Paper Warns of Japan Nuke Catastrophe

[link to www.japanherald.com]
 Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus


I told you he is not sane he has nothing to lose. Read my post he will use nukes, chems and bios.

Last Edited by LOU512 on 04/10/2013 10:03 PM
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Kyodo quotes a Japanese defense official that a #DPRK missile launcher is in a "raised position."
 Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus


Here's link to RT article -

[link to on.rt.com]
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


False Alarm?

Steve Herman (@W7VOA)
4/10/13, 10:01 PM
NHK TV not very concerned...top item on 11:00 newscast is school bus crash in Gifu Pref. #Japan

Steve Herman (@W7VOA)
4/10/13, 9:58 PM
#ROK MND: General prediction is that #DPRK will launch prior to or around Apr. 15.

Good night guys - this has gotten boring...
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I am hearing it just might be imminent me awning next few hours.
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N. Korean Paper Warns of Japan Nuke Catastrophe

[link to www.japanherald.com]
 Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus


I told you he is not sane he has nothing to lose. Read my post he will use nukes, chems and bios.
 Quoting: LOU512


I'm with ya on that. He has to 'put right' what he thinks his daddy failed at and he's painted himself into a corner with his rhetoric. He can't lose face with the people or the world. He'll pull out all the stops to keep that from happening. They think they don't have anything to lose....they're soooo wrong. Korea will be unified alright...UNDER CHINA.
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Any word on Russian military movement?
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Steve Herman ‏@W7VOA 20m

KCNA statement broadcast at 0328 UTC: "Unpardonable treacherous crime to turn Kaesong Industrial Zone" into "hotbed of confrontation."

KCNA statement aired on radio says "present chief executive" of #ROK cannot shirk responsibility for putting Kaesong at risk of closure.

#DPRK media for first time mentions #ROK Pres. Park Geun Hye by name, saying her "regime" stands for confronation with N. Korea.


Ummmmmm.....kinda got things backwards there don't they?
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N. Korean Paper Warns of Japan Nuke Catastrophe

[link to www.japanherald.com]
 Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus


I told you he is not sane he has nothing to lose. Read my post he will use nukes, chems and bios.
 Quoting: LOU512


I'm with ya on that. He has to 'put right' what he thinks his daddy failed at and he's painted himself into a corner with his rhetoric. He can't lose face with the people or the world. He'll pull out all the stops to keep that from happening. They think they don't have anything to lose....they're soooo wrong. Korea will be unified alright...UNDER CHINA.
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Agree -- but not this go-round.
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Sonny booboo might be smart but he's a total nutcase. Now they're blaming SK for shutting down Kaesong. He's reaching for straws just so he can attack or the cheese has completely slipped off his cracker.
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Steve Herman ‏@W7VOA 7m

#Taiwan foreign ministry first to issue advisory urging delay of visits to #ROK because of #DPRK threats





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