WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away) | |
Gerry52 User ID: 5789790 United States 04/17/2013 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Video of West explosion [link to www.kwkt.com] I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas! Semper Fi USMC Very much an Occams Razor kind of guy. Bridging the gap between "It can't happen to us" and "We're all going to die". |
Texan Buckeye User ID: 1533753 United States 04/17/2013 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DA_Banks: Shit. Might not be an accident.RT @Asher_Wolf: Live-scanner: "Use caution. There are possible other devices in the area." #Waco #Texas #West Quoting: Steve5728 "Other" devices? I just popped in to make sure the rest of the world is still where it should be. Youngest son is in the tornado zone tonight, daughter is just far enough away from the blast. AND, all that is just what's on here. I won't talk about the local shit. What other devices? I've been trying to keep up with the weather thread and transcribe the highlights for Cowgirl. What did I miss? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 Canada 04/18/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DA_Banks: Shit. Might not be an accident.RT @Asher_Wolf: Live-scanner: "Use caution. There are possible other devices in the area." #Waco #Texas #West Quoting: Steve5728 "Other" devices? I just popped in to make sure the rest of the world is still where it should be. Youngest son is in the tornado zone tonight, daughter is just far enough away from the blast. AND, all that is just what's on here. I won't talk about the local shit. What other devices? I've been trying to keep up with the weather thread and transcribe the highlights for Cowgirl. What did I miss? Prayers for you and yours, TB. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 Canada 04/18/2013 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is some interesting intel...the Saudi national that was released by the FBI as not being connected to the bombing will be deported next Tuesday for "national security reasons". Quoting: Gerry52 what does that mean? I don't have a clue...but there is more, just can't really say more. The "more" doesn't help solve the riddle. There is also this...WASHINGTON - U.S. President Barack Obama met with Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal at the White House on Wednesday...coincidence? Damn! |
Texan Buckeye User ID: 1533753 United States 04/18/2013 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DA_Banks: Shit. Might not be an accident.RT @Asher_Wolf: Live-scanner: "Use caution. There are possible other devices in the area." #Waco #Texas #West Quoting: Steve5728 "Other" devices? I just popped in to make sure the rest of the world is still where it should be. Youngest son is in the tornado zone tonight, daughter is just far enough away from the blast. AND, all that is just what's on here. I won't talk about the local shit. What other devices? I've been trying to keep up with the weather thread and transcribe the highlights for Cowgirl. What did I miss? Prayers for you and yours, TB. Thx, Swin. I saw your question on one of the explosion threads about the drought. I was flying between them and the weather thread, so I could let Cowgirl know what was happening in West. I'm not anywhere near the explosion. It was confusing for a bit. The town's name is West, but it's in Central Texas. I live in the region west Texas. AND...the whole state has been in a 2 year drought. Does that help? |
Southern OR User ID: 20471008 United States 04/18/2013 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DA_Banks: Shit. Might not be an accident.RT @Asher_Wolf: Live-scanner: "Use caution. There are possible other devices in the area." #Waco #Texas #West Quoting: Steve5728 "Other" devices? I just popped in to make sure the rest of the world is still where it should be. Youngest son is in the tornado zone tonight, daughter is just far enough away from the blast. AND, all that is just what's on here. I won't talk about the local shit. What other devices? I've been trying to keep up with the weather thread and transcribe the highlights for Cowgirl. What did I miss? Dang TB, you can't seem to catch a break lately. Stay safe! "Well-behaved women seldom make history." —Laurel Thatcher Ulrich I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. ~Edward Everett Hale |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 Canada 04/18/2013 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DA_Banks: Shit. Might not be an accident.RT @Asher_Wolf: Live-scanner: "Use caution. There are possible other devices in the area." #Waco #Texas #West Quoting: Steve5728 "Other" devices? I just popped in to make sure the rest of the world is still where it should be. Youngest son is in the tornado zone tonight, daughter is just far enough away from the blast. AND, all that is just what's on here. I won't talk about the local shit. What other devices? I've been trying to keep up with the weather thread and transcribe the highlights for Cowgirl. What did I miss? Prayers for you and yours, TB. Thx, Swin. I saw your question on one of the explosion threads about the drought. I was flying between them and the weather thread, so I could let Cowgirl know what was happening in West. I'm not anywhere near the explosion. It was confusing for a bit. The town's name is West, but it's in Central Texas. I live in the region west Texas. AND...the whole state has been in a 2 year drought. Does that help? It does -- missed the comma between West and Texas. Probably the only places in Texas I could locate on a map would be Houston and San Antonio. Glad you're nowhere near. |
Steve5728 User ID: 37880366 United States 04/18/2013 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From another thread on GLP. Just posted! Unusually High Number of Navy Jets Scrambling In San Diego I live on Coronado Island (im not military) and hear the jets taking off and landing every single day from the carriers stationed here as well as from North Island NAS, all of which are within one mile from my home. But i kid you not when I say that I have NEVER heard this much activity this late at night. Jets (since Navy I assume theyre f-18s, helicopters, you name it). This is where Seal Team 6 is stationed. This is where all the SEALs train. WTF is going on? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2123259 United States 04/18/2013 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From another thread on GLP. Just posted! Quoting: Steve5728 Unusually High Number of Navy Jets Scrambling In San Diego I live on Coronado Island (im not military) and hear the jets taking off and landing every single day from the carriers stationed here as well as from North Island NAS, all of which are within one mile from my home. But i kid you not when I say that I have NEVER heard this much activity this late at night. Jets (since Navy I assume theyre f-18s, helicopters, you name it). This is where Seal Team 6 is stationed. This is where all the SEALs train. WTF is going on? The beast grows...... |
JW 2305 User ID: 28902269 United States 04/18/2013 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From another thread on GLP. Just posted! Quoting: Steve5728 Unusually High Number of Navy Jets Scrambling In San Diego I live on Coronado Island (im not military) and hear the jets taking off and landing every single day from the carriers stationed here as well as from North Island NAS, all of which are within one mile from my home. But i kid you not when I say that I have NEVER heard this much activity this late at night. Jets (since Navy I assume theyre f-18s, helicopters, you name it). This is where Seal Team 6 is stationed. This is where all the SEALs train. WTF is going on? The beast grows...... Bump....but 6 IS NOT stationed at coronado... But bump for activity and follow up. A word of caution to neophyte Martini drinkers: When taken to excess, this perfectly civilized drink can lead directly to uncivilized behavior. |
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Steve5728 User ID: 37880366 United States 04/18/2013 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From another thread on GLP. Just posted! Quoting: Steve5728 Unusually High Number of Navy Jets Scrambling In San Diego I live on Coronado Island (im not military) and hear the jets taking off and landing every single day from the carriers stationed here as well as from North Island NAS, all of which are within one mile from my home. But i kid you not when I say that I have NEVER heard this much activity this late at night. Jets (since Navy I assume theyre f-18s, helicopters, you name it). This is where Seal Team 6 is stationed. This is where all the SEALs train. WTF is going on? The beast grows...... Bump....but 6 IS NOT stationed at coronado... But bump for activity and follow up. |
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LOU512 User ID: 15499118 United States 04/18/2013 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | West Mayor Tommy Muska said at a news conference however, that he doesn't yet know how many people were hurt or killed in the blast explosion, but said four or five firefighters are unaccounted for. FIRST FATALITY ESTIMATE FROM EMS, Some 60-70 dead (unconfirmed) CHICAGO: Some 60 to 70 people were killed and hundreds were injured by an explosion at a fertilizer plant outside Waco, Texas, local media reported, citing the local emergency manager. The report could not be immediately verified by AFP, but KWTX television cited West Emergency Management Services Director George Smith as confirming the death toll. [link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com WHY ARE SO MANY FIREFIGHTER DEAD AT THE SEEN,WHY DID THEY RUSH INTO THE PLANT FIRE???? BECAUSE OF THIS: West fertilizer plant said in report that it presented no risk The fertilizer plant that exploded Wednesday night in West, Texas, reported to the Environmental Protection Agency and local public safety officials that it presented no risk of fire or explosion, documents show... [link to www.dallasnews.com] ... See More Last Edited by LOU512 on 04/18/2013 02:00 AM The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Sun Tzu |
LOU512 User ID: 15499118 United States 04/18/2013 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | video of texas explosion Thread: Projectile Coming in from the left at Waco Explosion!!!! also heavy winds are spreading fire, can't get to many structures, expect death rate to raise PRAY FOR TEXAS The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Sun Tzu |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2123259 United States 04/18/2013 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | West Mayor Tommy Muska said at a news conference however, that he doesn't yet know how many people were hurt or killed in the blast explosion, but said four or five firefighters are unaccounted for. Quoting: LOU512 FIRST FATALITY ESTIMATE FROM EMS, Some 60-70 dead (unconfirmed) CHICAGO: Some 60 to 70 people were killed and hundreds were injured by an explosion at a fertilizer plant outside Waco, Texas, local media reported, citing the local emergency manager. The report could not be immediately verified by AFP, but KWTX television cited West Emergency Management Services Director George Smith as confirming the death toll. [link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com WHY ARE SO MANY FIREFIGHTER DEAD AT THE SEEN,WHY DID THEY RUSH INTO THE PLANT FIRE???? BECAUSE OF THIS: West fertilizer plant said in report that it presented no risk The fertilizer plant that exploded Wednesday night in West, Texas, reported to the Environmental Protection Agency and local public safety officials that it presented no risk of fire or explosion, documents show... [link to www.dallasnews.com] ... See More Probably true, BUT, fire department inspectors are REQUIRED to inspect all facilities annually to ensure the company is adhering to fire safety regulations. It's a town of only 2800 people. They should have known what was in that place. Not taking up for anybody...just stating the obvious. |
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LOU512 User ID: 15499118 United States 04/18/2013 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | West Mayor Tommy Muska said at a news conference however, that he doesn't yet know how many people were hurt or killed in the blast explosion, but said four or five firefighters are unaccounted for. Quoting: LOU512 FIRST FATALITY ESTIMATE FROM EMS, Some 60-70 dead (unconfirmed) CHICAGO: Some 60 to 70 people were killed and hundreds were injured by an explosion at a fertilizer plant outside Waco, Texas, local media reported, citing the local emergency manager. The report could not be immediately verified by AFP, but KWTX television cited West Emergency Management Services Director George Smith as confirming the death toll. [link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com WHY ARE SO MANY FIREFIGHTER DEAD AT THE SEEN,WHY DID THEY RUSH INTO THE PLANT FIRE???? BECAUSE OF THIS: West fertilizer plant said in report that it presented no risk The fertilizer plant that exploded Wednesday night in West, Texas, reported to the Environmental Protection Agency and local public safety officials that it presented no risk of fire or explosion, documents show... [link to www.dallasnews.com] ... See More Probably true, BUT, fire department inspectors are REQUIRED to inspect all facilities annually to ensure the company is adhering to fire safety regulations. It's a town of only 2800 people. They should have known what was in that place. Not taking up for anybody...just stating the obvious. 1o volunteer firefighters, they weren't ready for this [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Sun Tzu |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2123259 United States 04/18/2013 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel for them. They risked and lost their lives doing something noble. But I can't help but think that they might have known what was in there. Maybe that's WHY they went in so fast...they knew how dangerous it was and wanted to get their friends out. It's a small town. Everybody knows everybody else. The people that worked in the plant probably lived there too. Believe me, I know. I live in a town just about the same size. Like the gal said in Doc Hollywood: "You can't poop in this town without everybody knowing what color it was." An apt description of small town life. Either way, they died trying to help others. It's their courage and honor that should be focused on right now. If we start out screaming conspiracy from the start, their names and deeds just get buried in the mire. |
Texan Buckeye User ID: 1533753 United States 04/18/2013 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel for them. They risked and lost their lives doing something noble. But I can't help but think that they might have known what was in there. Maybe that's WHY they went in so fast...they knew how dangerous it was and wanted to get their friends out. It's a small town. Everybody knows everybody else. The people that worked in the plant probably lived there too. Believe me, I know. I live in a town just about the same size. Like the gal said in Doc Hollywood: "You can't poop in this town without everybody knowing what color it was." An apt description of small town life. Either way, they died trying to help others. It's their courage and honor that should be focused on right now. If we start out screaming conspiracy from the start, their names and deeds just get buried in the mire. Thank you for saying that, J4J. I don't live anywhere near West, but I live outside of small towns just like it. All of our towns have plants like this one and some have even worse chemicals. There's even an ethanol plant just up the road from my house. We've worked closely with our town's FD for several years, learning search and rescue and rehabing the FFs during our many wildfires. They're good people and well trained. There are too many people on here casting them in a bad light. Since the plant was smack in the middle of town, those FFs KNEW how to fight that fire. If they didn't, then heads will roll over this. I come from a long line of volunteer FFs, they are NOT the idiots that people on the other threads are making them out to be. I'm not buying the missile theory. The pics look like a secondary explosion to me. The facts will take a long time to come out, but they WILL come out. It's a small town, can't keep that stuff secret for long. Sometimes an accident is just that, an accident. It would take a lot of variables to come together, but it's happened before and could have happened now. The only thing that makes me keep an open mind on this is the timing. It was too convenient. I'm honestly leaning more to a possible arson, but that's just a gut feeling. *edit* Maybe I believe that, because I need to. For now. Last Edited by Texan Buckeye on 04/18/2013 04:23 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 Canada 04/18/2013 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm w/ TB - the missile theory is ridiculous Quoting: DarbyDoom I'm just don't know what started the fire. FBI just released photos of guy in white hat & guy in dark hat. White guys, dark hair, big noses... Could be Arab... Maybe not. lots of talk about that on other thread. honestly, to me, they could be from anywhere between southern france and pakistan. or, of course, from boston. |
godzilla85 User ID: 34265010 United States 04/18/2013 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm w/ TB - the missile theory is ridiculous Quoting: DarbyDoom I'm just don't know what started the fire. FBI just released photos of guy in white hat & guy in dark hat. White guys, dark hair, big noses... Could be Arab... Maybe not. lots of talk about that on other thread. honestly, to me, they could be from anywhere between southern france and pakistan. or, of course, from boston. yep, I'd rather wait to see until they actually have an arrest and and ID, way too much speculation and it's only fueling political and ideological fires that are purely nonsense on this point. Regardless of race, creed, political belief this was a henious and cowardly act. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 Canada 04/18/2013 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm w/ TB - the missile theory is ridiculous Quoting: DarbyDoom I'm just don't know what started the fire. FBI just released photos of guy in white hat & guy in dark hat. White guys, dark hair, big noses... Could be Arab... Maybe not. lots of talk about that on other thread. honestly, to me, they could be from anywhere between southern france and pakistan. or, of course, from boston. yep, I'd rather wait to see until they actually have an arrest and and ID, way too much speculation and it's only fueling political and ideological fires that are purely nonsense on this point. Regardless of race, creed, political belief this was a henious and cowardly act. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38052225 United States 04/18/2013 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mali hunger levels at crisis. [link to www.irinnews.org] Egypt Fuel Crisis, leads to Food Crisis [link to www.irinnews.org] |