WORLD at WAR, OFFICIAL 2013 THREAD (Doom always only a moment away) | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2123259 United States 04/20/2013 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nathan J Hunt retweeted. Kyoto news: Chinese vessels enter Japanese waters around Senkakus. 6 min. ago. Quoting: SkinnyChic They just keep pushing on this one Yep...Not the first...joining others: 3 Chinese vessels enter Japanese territorial waters around Senkakus [link to english.kyodonews.jp] |
JW 2305 User ID: 28902269 United States 04/20/2013 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Gerry52 ...oh, and I don't necessarily believe it or not believe it, I try to keep an open mind...but I did find it interesting, and it did me go "Hmmmm". Lone wolf it could be, if in fact the bomber got stopped, the much worse results did not happen thank G D! I have heard he was tackled by some folks in the crowd and held for the cops. There must have been something that several members of the crowd saw or heard that triggered them into action. Somehow they collectively connected him with the explosion. Maybe he yelled something...that will be interesting to find out. I said something was up with this guy... [link to www.youtube.com] Me too.. Bump A word of caution to neophyte Martini drinkers: When taken to excess, this perfectly civilized drink can lead directly to uncivilized behavior. |
JW 2305 User ID: 28902269 United States 04/20/2013 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | US SENDING TROOPS TO INTERVENE IN SYRIA: Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus LA TIMES [link to www.thenewamerican.com] CNN [link to www.cnn.com] REUTERS ^^^This site is a no no here but they have it TIMES OF ISRAEL [link to www.timesofisrael.com] And just for good measure, we have a counter from Russian media: RIANOVOSTI US Troops in Jordan Will Only Add to Syrian Crisis [link to en.rian.ru] A word of caution to neophyte Martini drinkers: When taken to excess, this perfectly civilized drink can lead directly to uncivilized behavior. |
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LOU512 User ID: 15499118 United States 04/20/2013 01:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ayatollah TV??? They aren't the best source...particularly re: Syria Quoting: DarbyDoom OT - Anyone else catch this? - Boston Bomber will not be Mirandized; DOJ relying on public safety exception. What's the imminent threat to public safety? One brother is dead, the other is seriously injured & in custody. Did they just admit they think this is bigger than the 2 brothers? Are there other members of the cell out there who constitute the imminent threat? BINGO!!! THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING! right on the money The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Sun Tzu |
LOU512 User ID: 15499118 United States 04/20/2013 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nathan J Hunt ‏@ISNJH 4m @NT7S Seems India is keeping troops away from the Chinese outpost to prevent any miscalculations and also leaving open way for them to exit. Details Nathan J Hunt ‏@ISNJH 6m @NT7S its legit I contacted a contact of mine in India and they confirmed it, also that situation is fluid. Details The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Sun Tzu |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7879907 United States 04/20/2013 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: The Saudi was the Chechyans escape route. Think. (Page 2) I only do that Bc I didnt wanna go ot here.. but I would appreciate your opinion. This is the best collection of international minds on glp and I think my thought makes sense from an operational standpoint |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7879907 United States 04/20/2013 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: The Saudi was the Chechyans escape route. Think. (Page 2) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7879907 I only do that Bc I didnt wanna go ot here.. but I would appreciate your opinion. This is the best collection of international minds on glp and I think my thought makes sense from an operational standpoint By this I mean ire thread mm. I follow it hourly since 2011 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7879907 United States 04/20/2013 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nathan J Hunt ‏@ISNJH 4m Quoting: LOU512 @NT7S Seems India is keeping troops away from the Chinese outpost to prevent any miscalculations and also leaving open way for them to exit. Details Nathan J Hunt ‏@ISNJH 6m @NT7S its legit I contacted a contact of mine in India and they confirmed it, also that situation is fluid. Details China knows this will get swept under the rug internationally in the west. By the time they pull out, Ha (its Friday), no one will believe it happened and Indians will know there's jack ish they can do to stop china |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31243632 United States 04/20/2013 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ayatollah TV??? They aren't the best source...particularly re: Syria Quoting: DarbyDoom OT - Anyone else catch this? - Boston Bomber will not be Mirandized; DOJ relying on public safety exception. What's the imminent threat to public safety? One brother is dead, the other is seriously injured & in custody. Did they just admit they think this is bigger than the 2 brothers? Are there other members of the cell out there who constitute the imminent threat? Actually, they do not have to Mirandize him until they ask him questions. At this point I don't believe he is in any shape to be answering questions, mainly because he has a trach in. Also, if they don't ask him any questions, but he volunteers information unsolicited, it can be used against him in court. There is also the public safety exception in cases of terrorism, it does not require imminent threat, but does set the stage for the type of prosecution they are looking at. Gerry, you gonna argue the law w/ a law review editor??? ; ) Public Safety exception dates from 1980. It requires an imminent threat BUT the term "imminent threat" has been more broadly defined in terrorism cases (it's very narrowly defined in standard criminal cases). From what I've read they are planning to try him in civilian court - so his trial will probably be similar to what we saw w/ the Times Square Bomber (also US citizen). They did not Mirandize the Times Square bomber for a day (arrested Monday, Mirandized Tuesday). DOJ didn't disclose lack of Miranda warnings until after the fact. They are pre-announcing that they will not be Mirandizing the Chechen kid. FBI website has decent article on Public Safety Exception - [link to www.fbi.gov] |
Gerry52 User ID: 5789790 United States 04/20/2013 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ayatollah TV??? They aren't the best source...particularly re: Syria Quoting: DarbyDoom OT - Anyone else catch this? - Boston Bomber will not be Mirandized; DOJ relying on public safety exception. What's the imminent threat to public safety? One brother is dead, the other is seriously injured & in custody. Did they just admit they think this is bigger than the 2 brothers? Are there other members of the cell out there who constitute the imminent threat? Actually, they do not have to Mirandize him until they ask him questions. At this point I don't believe he is in any shape to be answering questions, mainly because he has a trach in. Also, if they don't ask him any questions, but he volunteers information unsolicited, it can be used against him in court. There is also the public safety exception in cases of terrorism, it does not require imminent threat, but does set the stage for the type of prosecution they are looking at. Gerry, you gonna argue the law w/ a law review editor??? ; ) Public Safety exception dates from 1980. It requires an imminent threat BUT the term "imminent threat" has been more broadly defined in terrorism cases (it's very narrowly defined in standard criminal cases). From what I've read they are planning to try him in civilian court - so his trial will probably be similar to what we saw w/ the Times Square Bomber (also US citizen). They did not Mirandize the Times Square bomber for a day (arrested Monday, Mirandized Tuesday). DOJ didn't disclose lack of Miranda warnings until after the fact. They are pre-announcing that they will not be Mirandizing the Chechen kid. FBI website has decent article on Public Safety Exception - [link to www.fbi.gov] Based upon my understanding of the situation, and being a simple mortal, not a lawyer. They did not Mirandize him because they were not able to ask him any questions anyway and his state of consciousness may not have been at the level where he could have understood his rights nor would he have been able to acknowledge his understanding of them. Also, I'm sure they have enough evidence to convict him on a number of other charges already that will send him away for ever. They may also consider him an enemy combatant no matter how the prosecution progresses. Due to a shot in the neck, they inserted a trach almost immediately after pulling him out of the boat where he was bleeding to death. Since a trach is placed below the voice box he would not have been able to speak. Yup, they could also claim the exception to cover their butts, however that doesn't mean they needed it. As you stated "the term "imminent threat" has been more broadly defined in terrorism cases"...this is a terrorism case, so imminent has become a somewhat nebulous term, which was my point. I have learned 2 things, never argue with a lawyer and never argue with a woman...so as I have been taught over the years by multiple women...yes dear, you're right, I'm sorry...I'll be in the garage. Last Edited by Gerry52 on 04/20/2013 11:47 AM I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas! Semper Fi USMC Very much an Occams Razor kind of guy. Bridging the gap between "It can't happen to us" and "We're all going to die". |
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godzilla85 User ID: 32025446 United States 04/20/2013 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guys, since Swin didn't post on here, I'm hoping he sent y'all pm's. In case he didn't, he deleted his account today. I don't know if he'll be back. I'll miss him. Quoting: Texan Buckeye what's up with that? I sure hope he's alright. Look for a pm in a minute. Ok? k |
Texan Buckeye User ID: 1533753 United States 04/20/2013 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guys, since Swin didn't post on here, I'm hoping he sent y'all pm's. In case he didn't, he deleted his account today. I don't know if he'll be back. I'll miss him. Quoting: Texan Buckeye what's up with that? I sure hope he's alright. Look for a pm in a minute. Ok? k sent |
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Texan Buckeye User ID: 1533753 United States 04/20/2013 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guys, since Swin didn't post on here, I'm hoping he sent y'all pm's. In case he didn't, he deleted his account today. I don't know if he'll be back. I'll miss him. Quoting: Texan Buckeye I just met him here on this thread. I enjoyed reading his take on things. Hoping everything is ok with him. I hope so too. Just add him and his family to your prayer list. I know he'd appreciate it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2123259 United States 04/20/2013 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guys, since Swin didn't post on here, I'm hoping he sent y'all pm's. In case he didn't, he deleted his account today. I don't know if he'll be back. I'll miss him. Quoting: Texan Buckeye I just met him here on this thread. I enjoyed reading his take on things. Hoping everything is ok with him. I hope so too. Just add him and his family to your prayer list. I know he'd appreciate it. Done |
Texan Buckeye User ID: 1533753 United States 04/20/2013 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guys, since Swin didn't post on here, I'm hoping he sent y'all pm's. In case he didn't, he deleted his account today. I don't know if he'll be back. I'll miss him. Quoting: Texan Buckeye I just met him here on this thread. I enjoyed reading his take on things. Hoping everything is ok with him. I hope so too. Just add him and his family to your prayer list. I know he'd appreciate it. Done |
Gerry52 User ID: 5789790 United States 04/20/2013 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus I just met him here on this thread. I enjoyed reading his take on things. Hoping everything is ok with him. I hope so too. Just add him and his family to your prayer list. I know he'd appreciate it. Done Illness? I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas! Semper Fi USMC Very much an Occams Razor kind of guy. Bridging the gap between "It can't happen to us" and "We're all going to die". |
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Texan Buckeye User ID: 1533753 United States 04/20/2013 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Back from West, TX and I asked around. This is what we're hearing, on the other side of the state, too. The family that owns the Ford dealership in my town has alot of family in West. They also own a dealership in West. Annette Sykora is from West and all of her family is still there, including her son. I read another thread somewhere today about the possibility of arson as a cover-up for theft. Something to watch for. NONE of these plants have ANY kind of security. |
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Texan Buckeye User ID: 1533753 United States 04/20/2013 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're calling it a hack. Truth is stranger than fiction. Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus [link to twitter.com (secure)] [link to twitter.com (secure)] At this point, it doesn't surprise me. My gut tells me, it could be possible. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2123259 United States 04/20/2013 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're calling it a hack. Truth is stranger than fiction. Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus [link to twitter.com (secure)] [link to twitter.com (secure)] At this point, it doesn't surprise me. My gut tells me, it could be possible. Mine's saying alot more than that. There's a reason booboo bowed to Saud....a deep one. |
Texan Buckeye User ID: 1533753 United States 04/20/2013 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're calling it a hack. Truth is stranger than fiction. Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus [link to twitter.com (secure)] [link to twitter.com (secure)] At this point, it doesn't surprise me. My gut tells me, it could be possible. Mine's saying alot more than that. There's a reason booboo bowed to Saud....a deep one. I know. It's really started, hasn't it? It seems like the labor pains have gotten closer to the final stage. Everyone I know, family included, are having worse troubles every day. It seems like all I do anymore is talk and talk to people to try and calm them down. It's getting harder to do, too. Did you ever watch the movie The Birds? That's what I feel like sometimes. Stuff coming at me from all directions, just like those darned birds. |
godzilla85 User ID: 32025446 United States 04/20/2013 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're calling it a hack. Truth is stranger than fiction. Quoting: Jazzed4Jesus [link to twitter.com (secure)] [link to twitter.com (secure)] At this point, it doesn't surprise me. My gut tells me, it could be possible. Mine's saying alot more than that. There's a reason booboo bowed to Saud....a deep one. I know. It's really started, hasn't it? It seems like the labor pains have gotten closer to the final stage. Everyone I know, family included, are having worse troubles every day. It seems like all I do anymore is talk and talk to people to try and calm them down. It's getting harder to do, too. Did you ever watch the movie The Birds? That's what I feel like sometimes. Stuff coming at me from all directions, just like those darned birds. Well let's just try to put things in perspective, it may seem like the sky is falling, just cuz we have problems, all we can do is go one day at a time and one problem at a time. |