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Gerry52  User ID: 5789790  United States05/10/2013 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya. So, what did the President know and what did the President do? No one seems to know. Or no one is telling. [link to www.breitbart.com] I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas! Semper Fi USMC Very much an Occams Razor kind of guy. Bridging the gap between "It can't happen to us" and "We're all going to die". |
| Steve5728 User ID: 39631202 United States05/10/2013 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault. Quoting: Gerry52 That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya. So, what did the President know and what did the President do? No one seems to know. Or no one is telling. [link to www.breitbart.com] Not surprising,to say the least. Thanks Gerry.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31243632 United States05/10/2013 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault. Quoting: Gerry52 That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya. So, what did the President know and what did the President do? No one seems to know. Or no one is telling. [link to www.breitbart.com] Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens. SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA. If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died? Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief- Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency. Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th. I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too. |
| novamom User ID: 36691611 United States05/10/2013 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault. Quoting: Gerry52 That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya. So, what did the President know and what did the President do? No one seems to know. Or no one is telling. [link to www.breitbart.com] Ham was told to standby, while waiting he began emergency mission proceedings sending guys on their way. He had one call which ended in a heated disagreement and very shortly after that call another call came, then had the guys turn around, ending the mission, ~standing down~ |
| godzilla85 User ID: 32025446 United States05/10/2013 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault. Quoting: Gerry52 That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya. So, what did the President know and what did the President do? No one seems to know. Or no one is telling. [link to www.breitbart.com] hopefully it means his ass is on the way out, this guy has been nothing but bad news since he came onto the scene. |
| Steve5728 User ID: 39631202 United States05/10/2013 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault. Quoting: Gerry52 That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya. So, what did the President know and what did the President do? No one seems to know. Or no one is telling. [link to www.breitbart.com] hopefully it means his ass is on the way out, this guy has been nothing but bad news since he came onto the scene. |
| Steve5728 User ID: 39631202 United States05/10/2013 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Magnitude M 6.3 Region SOUTHERN IRAN Date time 2013-05-11 02:08:19.0 UTC Location 26.85 N ; 57.98 E Depth 80 km Distances 363 km N of Muscat, Oman / pop: 797,000 / local time: 06:08:19.0 2013-05-11 172 km E of Bandar ‘Abbās, Iran / pop: 352,173 / local time: 06:38:19.0 2013-05-11 95 km E of Mīnāb, Iran / pop: 70,790 / local time: 06:38:19.0 2013-05-11 www.emsc-csem.org Last Edited by Steve5728 on 05/10/2013 10:54 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2123259 United States05/10/2013 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Magnitude M 6.3 Quoting: Steve5728 Region SOUTHERN IRAN Date time 2013-05-11 02:08:19.0 UTC Location 26.85 N ; 57.98 E Depth 80 km Distances 363 km N of Muscat, Oman / pop: 797,000 / local time: 06:08:19.0 2013-05-11 172 km E of Bandar ‘Abbās, Iran / pop: 352,173 / local time: 06:38:19.0 2013-05-11 95 km E of Mīnāb, Iran / pop: 70,790 / local time: 06:38:19.0 2013-05-11 www.emsc-csem.org G-d is shaking His fist. Think they'll listen??? Nah... |
| Steve5728 User ID: 39631202 United States05/10/2013 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Magnitude M 6.3 Quoting: Steve5728 Region SOUTHERN IRAN Date time 2013-05-11 02:08:19.0 UTC Location 26.85 N ; 57.98 E Depth 80 km Distances 363 km N of Muscat, Oman / pop: 797,000 / local time: 06:08:19.0 2013-05-11 172 km E of Bandar ‘Abbās, Iran / pop: 352,173 / local time: 06:38:19.0 2013-05-11 95 km E of Mīnāb, Iran / pop: 70,790 / local time: 06:38:19.0 2013-05-11 www.emsc-csem.org G-d is shaking His fist. Think they'll listen??? Nah... |
| Gerry52 User ID: 5789790 United States05/10/2013 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault. Quoting: Gerry52 That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya. So, what did the President know and what did the President do? No one seems to know. Or no one is telling. [link to www.breitbart.com] Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens. SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA. If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died? Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief- Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency. Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th. I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too. First let me tell you where I sit before I tell you where I stand. I have a dog in this fight. My comment would be so incredibly non politically correct that it is probably best I keep it to myself. I can only say that you can't justify bad behavior by pointing at other bad behavior. I do not know what the outcome of saving the lives of these four men might have been, but I also know there was a good chance their lives could have been saved. There was nothing "fair" about this exchange. I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas! Semper Fi USMC Very much an Occams Razor kind of guy. Bridging the gap between "It can't happen to us" and "We're all going to die". |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2123259 United States05/10/2013 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tests on Syrian war casualties arriving in Turkey indicate chemical weapons have been used by Syrian forces, and further tests are being carried out to verify the evidence, Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said on Friday. [link to www.haaretz.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2123259 United States05/10/2013 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault. Quoting: Gerry52 That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya. So, what did the President know and what did the President do? No one seems to know. Or no one is telling. [link to www.breitbart.com] Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens. SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA. If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died? Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief- Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency. Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th. I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too. Yes, they do. But, if they were that entrenched in the gov as the article says, then they KNEW what was coming. At the very least, they knew the atmosphere they lived in. Two wrongs don't make a right. |
| JW 2305 User ID: 28902269 United States05/11/2013 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault. Quoting: Gerry52 That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya. So, what did the President know and what did the President do? No one seems to know. Or no one is telling. [link to www.breitbart.com] Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens. SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA. If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died? Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief- Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency. Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th. I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too. First let me tell you where I sit before I tell you where I stand. I have a dog in this fight. My comment would be so incredibly non politically correct that it is probably best I keep it to myself. I can only say that you can't justify bad behavior by pointing at other bad behavior. I do not know what the outcome of saving the lives of these four men might have been, but I also know there was a good chance their lives could have been saved. There was nothing "fair" about this exchange. A word of caution to neophyte Martini drinkers: When taken to excess, this perfectly civilized drink can lead directly to uncivilized behavior. |
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| Ger_reG User ID: 39650824  Germany05/11/2013 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @DougPologe: U.N. observer units have completely withdrawn from the Golan Heights truce zone, according to this report (Arabic) [link to www.alsharq.net.sa] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31243632 United States05/11/2013 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault. Quoting: Gerry52 That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya. So, what did the President know and what did the President do? No one seems to know. Or no one is telling. [link to www.breitbart.com] Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens. SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA. If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died? Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief- Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency. Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th. I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too. First let me tell you where I sit before I tell you where I stand. I have a dog in this fight. My comment would be so incredibly non politically correct that it is probably best I keep it to myself. I can only say that you can't justify bad behavior by pointing at other bad behavior. I do not know what the outcome of saving the lives of these four men might have been, but I also know there was a good chance their lives could have been saved. There was nothing "fair" about this exchange. I apologize Gerry. J4J - what article? |
| Gerry52 User ID: 5789790 United States05/11/2013 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault. Quoting: Gerry52 That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya. So, what did the President know and what did the President do? No one seems to know. Or no one is telling. [link to www.breitbart.com] Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens. SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA. If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died? Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief- Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency. Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th. I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too. First let me tell you where I sit before I tell you where I stand. I have a dog in this fight. My comment would be so incredibly non politically correct that it is probably best I keep it to myself. I can only say that you can't justify bad behavior by pointing at other bad behavior. I do not know what the outcome of saving the lives of these four men might have been, but I also know there was a good chance their lives could have been saved. There was nothing "fair" about this exchange. I apologize Gerry. J4J - what article? No apology necessary, we each have our own view of the situation. I understand and respect yours, just wanted you to know where I was coming from and why.  I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas! Semper Fi USMC Very much an Occams Razor kind of guy. Bridging the gap between "It can't happen to us" and "We're all going to die". |
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| ClydeX User ID: 11310285 United States05/11/2013 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This must have been big or well-timed Quoting: DarbyDoom @AlArabiya_Eng: #BreakingNews: Death toll in Turkey bomb attacks climbs to 30: Turkish justice minister Agreed - From what I'm seeing/ reading this morning / appears it was three (3) car bombs. That's planning, construction, and coordination - not a mistake or accident. Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |
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| ClydeX User ID: 11310285 United States05/11/2013 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This must have been big or well-timed Quoting: DarbyDoom @AlArabiya_Eng: #BreakingNews: Death toll in Turkey bomb attacks climbs to 30: Turkish justice minister Agreed - From what I'm seeing/ reading this morning / appears it was three (3) car bombs. That's planning, construction, and coordination - not a mistake or accident. Now reports of 40 killed/ 100 injured These numbers will most likely adjust throughout the day. Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |
| godzilla85 User ID: 1077295 United States05/11/2013 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This must have been big or well-timed Quoting: DarbyDoom @AlArabiya_Eng: #BreakingNews: Death toll in Turkey bomb attacks climbs to 30: Turkish justice minister Agreed - From what I'm seeing/ reading this morning / appears it was three (3) car bombs. That's planning, construction, and coordination - not a mistake or accident. Now reports of 40 killed/ 100 injured These numbers will most likely adjust throughout the day. that's a real shame, for the most part innocent people I imagine doing nothing more than going on about their business. |
| ClydeX User ID: 11310285 United States05/11/2013 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This must have been big or well-timed Quoting: DarbyDoom @AlArabiya_Eng: #BreakingNews: Death toll in Turkey bomb attacks climbs to 30: Turkish justice minister Agreed - From what I'm seeing/ reading this morning / appears it was three (3) car bombs. That's planning, construction, and coordination - not a mistake or accident. Now reports of 40 killed/ 100 injured These numbers will most likely adjust throughout the day. that's a real shame, for the most part innocent people I imagine doing nothing more than going on about their business. Agreed, 'Zilla. This is at least an attempt to setting the stage against Syria. Turkey had just said this week that they would support the No Fly Zone, now there will be support generated within the Turkish people. On another note: Sabbath is close to ending in Israel/ 17:40 currently. Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |
| ClydeX User ID: 11310285 United States05/11/2013 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Jazeera now back to reporting two (2) cars were used - not three (3) as I stated earlier. Al Jazeera-- Two vehicles packed with explosives blew up near the town hall and the post office in Reyhanli, Anatolia news agency quoted the minister as saying. aljazeera . com (left cold) Last Edited by ClydeX on 05/11/2013 10:58 AM Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |
| godzilla85 User ID: 1077295 United States05/11/2013 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Al Jazeera now back to reporting two (2) cars were used - not three (3) as i stated earlier. Quoting: ClydeX Al Jazeera-- Two vehicles packed with explosives blew up near the town hall and the post office in Reyhanli, Anatolia news agency quoted the minister as saying. aljazeera . com (left cold) sounds like Kurdish rebels, not like Assad sanctioned attack. |
| ClydeX User ID: 11310285 United States05/11/2013 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posted by Limpan/ on the thread about the bombing(s): The Turkish Prime Minister says the Assad-Syrian government is behind today's twin blast in #Turkey. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2123259 United States05/11/2013 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breitbart is reporting that a source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists that, ultimately, only the President of the United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault. Quoting: Gerry52 That makes perfect sense if you understand the command-and-control structure of the Department of Defense and White House in these type of situations. The White House Situation Room would should have been intimately involved in the unfolding events in Libya. So, what did the President know and what did the President do? No one seems to know. Or no one is telling. [link to www.breitbart.com] Keep in mind - on August 9th (one month before attack) - Mohammed Magarief was named President of the GNC - de facto President of Libya. HIs long-time associate Ali Zeidan was named PM. Both men have been long associated with the CIA. Both men were living in DC Area when Libyan uprising broke out. Both men have large families & their adult children & young grandchildren are US citizens. SO - you've installed two CIA assets in Libya. Their government, and thus hold on power, is extremely shaky. Libyans can be dumb, but they ain't that dumb. They've noticed that most members of their new parliament have dual citizenship. (Majority of parliament members hold either US, UK or Canadian citizenship). They know new leaders of government have 30 year association w/ CIA. If Obama had ordered US troops into action in Benghazi, what would the end result have been? Easy part - Magarief/Zeidan government would have immediately collapsed. How many US citizens associated with that government, people the CIA literally flew into Libya in August, 2011, would have died? Here's the Wikipedia entry on the NFSL/Magarief- Mohamed Yousef el-Magariaf, a former Libyan ambassador to India, founded the NFSL on 7 October 1981... The NFSL launched a wide campaign to topple the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, establishing a short-wave radio station, a commando military training camp and also published a bi-monthly newsletter, Al Inqadh (Salvation). According to various sources, the group was supported by the government of Saudi Arabia, and the United States' Central Intelligence Agency. Obama made a tough call. He let a long-time CIA agent & some contractors die to keep CIA assets & their families safe. Asma al Magarief (President's daughter) has 4 children. All under the age of 8. All natural-born US Citizens. All were in Tripoli on the night of September 11th. I've seen pictures of Asma's kids. Their lives have value too. First let me tell you where I sit before I tell you where I stand. I have a dog in this fight. My comment would be so incredibly non politically correct that it is probably best I keep it to myself. I can only say that you can't justify bad behavior by pointing at other bad behavior. I do not know what the outcome of saving the lives of these four men might have been, but I also know there was a good chance their lives could have been saved. There was nothing "fair" about this exchange. I apologize Gerry. J4J - what article? The one you mentioned: [link to en.wikipedia.org] He's survived numerous assassination attempts already and ordered the commandos in a failed attempt on Gaddafi. And if they were as tied in with the CIA as you said, then they had to be aware of the back room deal going on. They KNEW. They had ample warning (and the resources) to get their families to safety. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2123259 United States05/11/2013 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 47th ‏@THE_47th 18m Just got briefed by my source on what Robert Ford did when he snuck into #Syria briefly a few days ago. More to follow. Robert Ford was in Syria for about 3 hours, of which he spent an hour & a half meeting General Abduljabbar Al Ogaidi. As expected, Ambassador Ford bombarded Ogaidi with questions about JAN, and other Islamist forces, and asked for assurances. Amb. Ford's handed Gen Ogaidi abt 1000 packages full of 'non lethal aid, and went on to assure Ogaidi that the US policy remains Ford was adamant: nothing has changed, Assad won't be a part of any transitional Gov, and will be out of the picture. Ambassador Ford then spent half an hour convincing Ogaidi to nominate ppl from his side to participate in the negotiations with Assad Gov One big mistake Ogaidi did: he told Ford that Jabhat Al Nusra are not a problem, that they have been cooperating. So I guess Al Ogaidi's future is done. 1 thing my source said about Ford's take on things: Russia is letting go of Assad, but not the rest of the regime. Hasan Sari ‏@HasanSari7 4m @THE_47th He also asked him (FSA) to openly detach themselves from JAN as it will be blacklisted by Security Council in few days. |
