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...and off the cliff we go

 
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You know Obama is having a good year!
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so are 535 other morons, they deserve as much as the blame for this mess as obama. even past politicians deserve the blame for leading us into this mess
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


I agree. Fire the bunch of lil bitches. Im so sick of this country I could puke !
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obama says they are close but thats like saying a kid is saying he is gonna clean his room while he is laying down on his bed
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drevil
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Re: ...and off the cliff we go
This country needs a wake up call.
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most of you morons are more worried about your guns than the economy.
what a joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31254428


Hey Jackass Aussie - with no guns "they" can do whatever they want to our economy ! BTW, the "if I can't have a gun, no one else should should have one either" bitch doesn't work here.
You guys gave up your rights a long time ago.
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Re: ...and off the cliff we go
Can someone please explain to me in simple English what is going to happen in 2013?

Taxes are going to increase for everyone? So that means paychecks will be less because more taxes will be withheld?

I'm not comprehending all this fiscal cliff talk.
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01/01/2013 01:32 AM
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Re: ...and off the cliff we go
On C Span now ...

[link to www.c-span.org]
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This shit is so fricking staged.
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It's not so bad... We pay half of our income to taxes, which pays for half of the population to be on welfare. We get brand new laws and restrictions! And the excitement of economic collapse! Who needs social security anyway?



popcorn
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


but you have no problem with defence spending but you piss and moan about helping out your own bretheren.

riigggghhhhhhttt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31254428



I think we might feel a little differently about the "helping out our own brethren" if it weren't taken advantage of, and maybe appreciated more..

And the "defense" looks suspiciously like offense..
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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Time to go lootin. Cya at Walmart! 5a
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Can someone please explain to me in simple English what is going to happen in 2013?

Taxes are going to increase for everyone? So that means paychecks will be less because more taxes will be withheld?

I'm not comprehending all this fiscal cliff talk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31256290


You got it buddy. Smaller paychecks for all, more expensive medical care and supplies, less jobs, more debt, want me to keep going?
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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01/01/2013 01:36 AM
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Re: ...and off the cliff we go
It's not so bad... We pay half of our income to taxes, which pays for half of the population to be on welfare. We get brand new laws and restrictions! And the excitement of economic collapse! Who needs social security anyway?



popcorn
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


but you have no problem with defence spending but you piss and moan about helping out your own bretheren.

riigggghhhhhhttt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31254428



I think we might feel a little differently about the "helping out our own brethren" if it weren't taken advantage of, and maybe appreciated more..

And the "defense" looks suspiciously like offense..
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


cool story bro
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Re: ...and off the cliff we go
Can someone please explain to me in simple English what is going to happen in 2013?

Taxes are going to increase for everyone? So that means paychecks will be less because more taxes will be withheld?

I'm not comprehending all this fiscal cliff talk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31256290


You got it buddy. Smaller paychecks for all, more expensive medical care and supplies, less jobs, more debt, want me to keep going?
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


tell it to the mega rich corps. who keep on outsourcing your jobs overseas..
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I don't know except the Government can't get its act together.

I don't know if it means anything more than that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20756371


Much more. Just wait if you haven't figured it out by now.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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I don't know except the Government can't get its act together.

I don't know if it means anything more than that.
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Much more. Just wait if you haven't figured it out by now.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


It's not my country. I don't know how it will play out.
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01/01/2013 01:40 AM
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It has to go through Congress as well doesn't it?
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01/01/2013 01:41 AM
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lolatu
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U dumbf
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Democrats may blame the Republicans, and Republicans may blame the Democrats, but one thing is for certain....

Barack Hussein Obama II will be known as the President
that was responsible for the biggest tax increase in American
history.



5a
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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"Obamacare contains twenty new or higher taxes. Five of the taxes hit for the first time on January 1. In total, Americans face a net $1 trillion tax hike for the years 2013-2022"

[link to www.atr.org]
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


Locally Invacare is laying off 145. They make medical devices....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


You havent seen ANYTHING yet !!!!!!!!!!!! The morons that voted yobamma in , I promise will be sorry lol What comes around,goes around ;)
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01/01/2013 01:46 AM
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Re: ...and off the cliff we go
Congress has to vote on it as well today.

[link to www.businessinsider.com]
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01/01/2013 01:48 AM
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You know Obama is having a good year!
 Quoting: Astral Goat


so are 535 other morons, they deserve as much as the blame for this mess as obama. even past politicians deserve the blame for leading us into this mess
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


Do you know how many decades this has been said in America sunny?

Shut up already, it got old in the 70s. Doing something about it is a good idea, but is not going to happen. This is going to be a long drawn out death, it has already been going on slowly since 1914, and before.
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Congress has to vote on it as well today.

[link to www.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20756371


Even with a plan, taxes will be going up. That much we already know.
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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Re: ...and off the cliff we go
Democrats may blame the Republicans, and Republicans may blame the Democrats, but one thing is for certain....

Barack Hussein Obama II will be known as the President
that was responsible for the biggest tax increase in American
history.



5a
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


That was said about many other presidents as well. And year after year another pawn takes his place, and raises it again. In 4 years, another president will come along, and raise it again, and you will get to say your stupid little phraze again, about some other pawn.
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The Pledge is involved in this somewhere.

Congress still has to vote.

They pledged not to put up taxes. People earning over $450k will have their taxes going up.

I don't know how that will play out or how they will vote.
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Sequestration still comes in in two months time.

That's another event on the horizon.

Cuts in defence etc.
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At this point might as well throw this in.grumpy2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14089893


LOL
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01/01/2013 01:54 AM

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Here are the known details of the deal:

Tax rates: Current tax rates will be extended for all wage earners making below $400,000 and couples making below $450,000.
This was a key concession for both Republicans and Democrats. Democrats wanted the threshold for tax increases to rest at $250,000 and Republicans didn't want marginal tax rates to increase for anyone.

The estate tax: It was set to increase from rom 35 percent to 55 percent in 2013. Instead, the compromise sets the new rate at 40 percent with the first $5 million worth of property exempt from being taxed.
Capital gains tax: Capital gains and dividend tax rates will increase from 15 to 20 percent.
Alternative Minimum Tax: A permanent fix to the tax that would hit middle class families
"Doc Fix": Doctors will be shielded from a massive reimbursement gap for treating Medicare patients.
Unemployment benefits: Unemployed workers will receive their benefits which expired over the weekend.
Renewable energy tax credit: The tax credit for renewable energy companies will be extended for another year.

oh shit this is CBS News

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"Obamacare contains twenty new or higher taxes. Five of the taxes hit for the first time on January 1. In total, Americans face a net $1 trillion tax hike for the years 2013-2022"

[link to www.atr.org]
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


Dude that over ten years..............?
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01/01/2013 01:56 AM
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The House will be the more interesting vote.
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Democrats may blame the Republicans, and Republicans may blame the Democrats, but one thing is for certain....

Barack Hussein Obama II will be known as the President
that was responsible for the biggest tax increase in American
history.



5a
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


That was said about many other presidents as well. And year after year another pawn takes his place, and raises it again. In 4 years, another president will come along, and raise it again, and you will get to say your stupid little phraze again, about some other pawn.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19004483



Cool. That phrase has a catchy little ring to it.
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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let's pray it crashes and burns bad

that what jesus would want..
time to throw the money changers out of the temple.

it's gonna be a good year boys.

down with the Pharisees
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Full text of 157 page bill to avert the cliff.

[link to www.businessinsider.com]

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