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Anonymous Coward
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01/01/2013 01:59 AM
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Cnn Just said it manufactured crisis every few months.
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01/01/2013 01:59 AM
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There is obviously more than a couple of things in there.
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01/01/2013 02:01 AM
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"Obamacare contains twenty new or higher taxes. Five of the taxes hit for the first time on January 1. In total, Americans face a net $1 trillion tax hike for the years 2013-2022"

[link to www.atr.org]
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Dude that over ten years..............?
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Correction over 20 yrs. This admim. increased the deficit 8 trillion in 4 years. At this rate these LOSER'S are spending my Great Great Grand childrens money !!!!!!!!

Time to get the shit out od DC. All of them. Hell a driver of an ice cream truck could manage this counrty better
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01/01/2013 02:01 AM
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I doubt if any of them have read the whole 157 pages.
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01/01/2013 02:03 AM
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Agreement passes US Senate----
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01/01/2013 02:03 AM
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Goddamn CNN I wanted to see the ball drop not some manufactured crisis. Fiat currency will fail it doesnt matter how far they kick the can down the road.

They interrupted my ball drop!
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01/01/2013 02:06 AM
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They showed it all here on CNN.

Happy New Year ...

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01/01/2013 02:08 AM
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No votes in the House until the 3rd.

Same day as Orly's court case.
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01/01/2013 02:19 AM
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It's still not over ...

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01/01/2013 02:21 AM
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The House has time to study all the details now ...

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01/01/2013 02:24 AM
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House vote Tuesday
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01/01/2013 02:34 AM
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Reid said Thursday the 3rd.

They have to debate Sandy today.

He said they would debate this bill when they reconvened on Thursday.

It was on the C Span debate as it ended.
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01/01/2013 02:35 AM
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Sandy again .. always causing trouble.
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01/01/2013 02:41 AM
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March 1st Sequestration comes into play.

That's if it passes on Thursday ...

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01/01/2013 02:44 AM
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Update on that last tweet.

He said different date for sequesters.

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01/01/2013 02:45 AM
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*different dates

Must be different for different areas. 1st of March for some.

I'll leave it there for now.
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01/01/2013 02:53 AM
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ok...I thought they had a deal going???
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01/01/2013 02:56 AM
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It's voted and through in the Senate.

They have to vote on it in the House on Thursday.

Whether they have the votes or not I don't know.

Business Insider said he thought they did.
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01/01/2013 03:11 AM
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what happens when the bankers want to collect on America's debt?

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
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What happens when the world wants to cash in its American dollars?


yoda
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01/01/2013 03:13 AM
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what happens when the bankers want to collect on America's debt?

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien



What happens when the world wants to cash in its American dollars?


yoda
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What happens when the world realizes the big dawgs have ALREADY cashed in their American dollars?
drevil
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01/01/2013 03:17 AM
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Obama has made his resolutions clear.
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01/01/2013 03:23 AM
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The worlds largest debtor nation in the history of mankind.

The worlds most drugged up society in history.

The worlds largest deficit spending in the history of mankind.

The worlds largest prison population per capita in the world

The worlds biggest fraud in the history of mankind sitting in the white house.

The worlds leading invading country in the world.

The worlds largest corporation on earth being the U.S. Government.

Creating the most money at the fastest rate in the history of mankind.

Buying the largest amount of their own treasuries in the history of mankind.

The worlds largest consumers the world has ever known, consuming the wealth and labor of the rest of the earth.

The worlds largest trade deficits ran for the longest period of time on the history of the world.

The fattest and most obese society in the entire world.

We're number 1


We're number 1


We're number 1


We're number 1


We're number 1



We're number 1
K.Kool

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01/01/2013 03:25 AM
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what happens when the bankers want to collect on America's debt?

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien



What happens when the world wants to cash in its American dollars?


yoda
 Quoting: K.Kool


What happens when the world realizes the big dawgs have ALREADY cashed in their American dollars?
drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31197015



What would happen if all debt were to be cancelled?
Global and personal, clean slate.



spock
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01/01/2013 03:31 AM
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What would happen if all debt were to be cancelled?
Global and personal, clean slate?
spock
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It will happen eventually, either through war or inflation. Probably both. Inflation makes the real value of debt melt like butter on a hot skillet.
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01/01/2013 03:34 AM
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Re: ...and off the cliff we go
Reid said Thursday the 3rd.

They have to debate Sandy today.

He said they would debate this bill when they reconvened on Thursday.

It was on the C Span debate as it ended.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20756371


northeast especially new york and new jersey need the funds to rebuild, our area hasnt seen a storm like this in decades, we are not like florida which laughs when a category 1 hurricane approaches. it would be like if 4 inches of snow were to hit miami, people would go insane in miami while here in new york its just another snow storm.

to get back to budget, why does the us need $600 billion+ military budget? its unnecessary n unless they cut the budget soon it will only get worse. but this wont happen since we have war with iran or syria on the horizon. defense budget isnt the only problem, overpaid workers is another, do we really need so many workers earning at least 100k? then they use overtime to sometimes double their salary. some OT is legitimate but sometimes the worker will alter the weekly hours in order to receive more pay, happens all the time here in new york, its too late at night to write about many of the leading factors in yet another crisis. hopefully others will add to the list and discuss them but remember this

BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MESS! no party is innocent, maybe its time to give another party a shot, i mean what the hell they cant be much worse than these clowns running the show now.
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The worlds largest debtor nation in the history of mankind.

The worlds most drugged up society in history.

The worlds largest deficit spending in the history of mankind.

The worlds largest prison population per capita in the world

The worlds biggest fraud in the history of mankind sitting in the white house.

The worlds leading invading country in the world.

The worlds largest corporation on earth being the U.S. Government.

Creating the most money at the fastest rate in the history of mankind.

Buying the largest amount of their own treasuries in the history of mankind.

The worlds largest consumers the world has ever known, consuming the wealth and labor of the rest of the earth.

The worlds largest trade deficits ran for the longest period of time on the history of the world.

The fattest and most obese society in the entire world.

We're number 1


We're number 1


We're number 1


We're number 1


We're number 1



We're number 1
 Quoting: GodFrequency


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K.Kool

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What would happen if all debt were to be cancelled?
Global and personal, clean slate?
spock
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It will happen eventually, either through war or inflation. Probably both. Inflation makes the real value of debt melt like butter on a hot skillet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31197015




What if it was a global decision, to re-start the economic system, free of debt and with bans on exorbitant interest rates?
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01/01/2013 03:40 AM
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superb post!

The worlds largest debtor nation in the history of mankind.

The worlds most drugged up society in history.

The worlds largest deficit spending in the history of mankind.

The worlds largest prison population per capita in the world

The worlds biggest fraud in the history of mankind sitting in the white house.

The worlds leading invading country in the world.

The worlds largest corporation on earth being the U.S. Government.

Creating the most money at the fastest rate in the history of mankind.

Buying the largest amount of their own treasuries in the history of mankind.

The worlds largest consumers the world has ever known, consuming the wealth and labor of the rest of the earth.

The worlds largest trade deficits ran for the longest period of time on the history of the world.

The fattest and most obese society in the entire world.

We're number 1


We're number 1


We're number 1


We're number 1


We're number 1



We're number 1
 Quoting: GodFrequency

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What would happen if all debt were to be cancelled?
Global and personal, clean slate?
spock
 Quoting: K.Kool


It will happen eventually, either through war or inflation. Probably both. Inflation makes the real value of debt melt like butter on a hot skillet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31197015




What if it was a global decision, to re-start the economic system, free of debt and with bans on exorbitant interest rates?
 Quoting: K.Kool


Since the people who control the financial architecture derive their power from debt, credit, and interest rates, it strikes me as highly unlikely they would agree to do this. Especially as they are all psychopaths.
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01/01/2013 03:44 AM
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Re: ...and off the cliff we go
what happens when the bankers want to collect on America's debt?

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien



What happens when the world wants to cash in its American dollars?


yoda
 Quoting: K.Kool


What happens when the world realizes the big dawgs have ALREADY cashed in their American dollars?
drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31197015



What would happen if all debt were to be cancelled?
Global and personal, clean slate.



spock
 Quoting: K.Kool


iceland did it, they let the banks fail

[link to www.thenewamerican.com]



iceland's reaction to banks failing

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