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4Q529 User ID: 31262400 United States 01/01/2013 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven All of these images have been created by the 'fallen' consciousness of the "self". John's Vision of the "Son of man", on the contrary, is similar to the Vision received by Daniel ("behold he is coming on the clouds"--see Daniel 7:13); referred to in the Quran as the "Night Journey" of Mohammed; and, in the Thanksgiving Hymns of the Dead Sea Scrolls, as the "Vision of Knowledge"; not completely unrelated to the "vision of kundalini" in the Eastern traditions. Michael |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31264786 United States 01/01/2013 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven When people write about their DMT "trips", it is nothing like NDE experiences where people are in lush landscapes, in perfect nature, and see a human Jesus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31256290 I always assumed that if there is an afterlife, it will be something like a DMT dimension with just energy and nothing like nature as we know it. This is one reason that I do not believe these NDE stories. I'm also curious, if there are any NDE accounts from atheists? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21201441 United States 02/20/2013 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ “ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21201441 United States 02/20/2013 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven All the mockers on this thread just brought this story to mind - it does not matter how many "signs" they see, their eyes will not open, as here it says: Quoting: Geo777 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ “ reference: Luke 16:14-31 [link to bible.org] (sorry, forgot to add that to the post) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28689320 United States 02/20/2013 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven see my problem isnt that you believe, its that you believe people are going to hell. hell is revenge, which is a human emotion. nothing godly about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30377663 I believe hell is more or less a choice. Not a revenge. Nobody wishes anybody to go to hell except those wishing for company. Think about that. Ego is the biggest deception. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34812179 United States 02/20/2013 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven Another similar account. A man falls off a horse, and has an NDE, and too describes heaven. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
... User ID: 17869310 Germany 08/24/2013 06:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven Too many "Went-to-heaven-and Jesus-talked-to-me" stories nowadays in the internet. Looks like a PR campaign of a curch, and stupid storytelling priests as ghostwriters. They want more souls to take to hell with them. It is easy to find out the lie: Jeses does not talk like this!!!! What all of you shill mendacious crap-fairytale-wrtiting priests do not know: 1.) Jesus does not talk like a priest 2.) Jesus does not care for Christians only but for ALL the children of GOD 3.) Jesus has nothing to do with you priests and clergymen, and all of your fake crap baptism lies!!!!! 4.) Jesus has nothing to do with your churches!!!!! YOU PRIESTS WILL ALL RUN AWAY INTO YOUR DARK CELLS WHERE YOU BELONG, ONCE YOU SEE THE REAL JESUS (IF you are allowed to see him)!!!! Dear GODloving people, do not fall for this crap!!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44765078 United States 08/24/2013 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven Thinking a God would care what you do is like you caring if an ant eats another ant. No one knows if there is anything for us beyond this life not one person. Even people who have NDE's can't be sure their brain didn't just make this stuff up. I would live my life on earth as if this is it and not waste to much time worrying about what ancient man made up in his attempt to understand the meaning of life which is exactly what the bible/Koran etc... is. If there is a creator who wants your soul and loves you he will take care of that when your dead. |
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IntoTheLight User ID: 45669834 United Kingdom 08/24/2013 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven No. This man had a massive dose of Endorphins bought on by the brain thinking the body was about to die. This is normal for the human condition and has been well documented. Heaven,Jesus and God,delusions created by this mans brain. Story DEBUNKED! However,I did find this old film about Jesus.I think it may be true! Last Edited by IntoTheLight on 08/24/2013 09:19 AM 6 months UK then 6 months USA. I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37911089 United States 08/24/2013 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven Who set up this system... Aye? This emotional Heaven vs. Hell fear based paradigm? ---> THAT <--- is the question you ALL should be asking yourselves. Wake up souls... this is a simulation, a *filtering* algorithm which sorts based upon a *response*. Your response places your consciousness into a bucket called "Heaven" or Hell". You all need to be investigating who the architect of this system is. And because it is a system, that also implies *intent* of a designer. You all better start asking yourselves what the intent of the designer is, and what you are being used for. Now *that* is a what I call -enlightenment-. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45690652 Germany 08/24/2013 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven see my problem isnt that you believe, its that you believe people are going to hell. hell is revenge, which is a human emotion. nothing godly about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30377663 Yep, Hell is a tool used by Christians to put fear into people followed by a hope to join their religion. Hope doesn't exist without fear. So Christians plant a seed of fear that the person never had before and told them there is hope if they follow their religion. Talk about terrorism. Hell is not biblical, the soul that sins will die. No one will be tortured. The reward is eternal life. The punishment is eternal death. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47476166 Australia 09/26/2013 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven see my problem isnt that you believe, its that you believe people are going to hell. hell is revenge, which is a human emotion. nothing godly about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30377663 Yep, Hell is a tool used by Christians to put fear into people followed by a hope to join their religion. Hope doesn't exist without fear. So Christians plant a seed of fear that the person never had before and told them there is hope if they follow their religion. Talk about terrorism. Hell is not biblical, the soul that sins will die. No one will be tortured. The reward is eternal life. The punishment is eternal death. Almost there but not quite. Jesus had a lot to say about it but most people really dont care what HE said. They only want to care about what MEN say. Lets see what Jesus said...as its Him who runs and controls it all. Thread: Jesus did NOT teach eternal torture. IN fact he taught the very OPPOSITE of what christians teach about hell. |
Avatar76 User ID: 42948827 United States 09/24/2014 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven When people write about their DMT "trips", it is nothing like NDE experiences where people are in lush landscapes, in perfect nature, and see a human Jesus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31256290 I always assumed that if there is an afterlife, it will be something like a DMT dimension with just energy and nothing like nature as we know it. This is one reason that I do not believe these NDE stories. I'm also curious, if there are any NDE accounts from atheists? Yep, look at the NDE account of Howard Storm. He was an atheist who changed after having one. |
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Avatar76 User ID: 42948827 United States 09/24/2014 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Man dies, sees generations of deceased family members in heaven, sees Jesus, and describes heaven No. Quoting: IntoTheLight This man had a massive dose of Endorphins bought on by the brain thinking the body was about to die. This is normal for the human condition and has been well documented. Heaven,Jesus and God,delusions created by this mans brain. Story DEBUNKED! However,I did find this old film about Jesus.I think it may be true! All delusions of the mind though? Are you that skeptical you're not open to any of it being real? You atheists/skeptics are more damn close-minded than anyone. |