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Did The Federal Reserve Renew Their Charter That Ended 12/31/12? PIN FOR ANSWERS TO THIS MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION OF 2013!!

 
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Did The Federal Reserve Renew Their Charter That Ended 12/31/12? PIN FOR ANSWERS TO THIS MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION OF 2013!!
I can't seem to find any info concerning this.

That would give us all a lot of answers as to what DC is up to right now.

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Now,that's a good question.
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all I can find are articles from conspiracy websites saying that they did renew, but don't give any facts at all, just heresay.

Has anyone found any news about this?
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Great question OP. The media is being very quiet about that...all they've talked about is the 'fiscal cliff'.

We should always watch the other hand....
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bump you can be sure if it happens it will be at the midnight hour when noone is watching
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could someone suggest a pin so we can get more info on this?

if not, this thread may run off the front page.
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bump
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Suggesting a pin for ya.
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bump
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BUMP I want to know
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Wonder what else the senate was voting on last night.... Just. Saying
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This is an internet myth. Congress extended the contract to indefinite in 1927 if i remember correctly. There is no 100 year charter.
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They are definitely keeping the masses distracted with guns, piers Morgan, fiscal cliff and sandy hook with intent.

This is such a massively important issue and yet a media blackout.

bump

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I cannot find ONE THING about it.

this is one of those very worthy news items that are conveniently being left out..

they want us to forget about this one.
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The Fed Res charter does not expire! That is the conspiracy. The charter is ongoing and can only be discontinued by a House vote. Good luck on that happening when the Fed Res owns 99% of them!
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The Fed Res charter does not expire! That is the conspiracy. The charter is ongoing and can only be discontinued by a House vote. Good luck on that happening when the Fed Res owns 99% of them!
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well, how do we shut them down then?
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The best information always comes from the horses mouth!

[link to www.federalreserve.gov]

You can't shut them down but they can shut you down! Some things you can do:

Don't have a bank account!
If you draw a paycheck, cash it and take it to the closest Federal Reserve Bank to exchange it for REAL money and not that fake stuff. They have to do this by law!
If you need to write a check, take your real money to the Post Office and use a federal money order.
Claim exempt on your W-4 and don't file Income tax return since you aren't using their money any longer.
Also, coin is printed by the Treasury and not the Fed Res, use more coins!
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found this.. Looks like LOTS of people are asking the same question!!

scroll down to comments too.

[link to www.dailypaul.com]
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[link to www.dailypaul.com]
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It will be renewed at Jekyll Island on the weekend of the Autumn Equinox (September 21, 2013). Coincidentally, AMORC (the Rosicrucian Order) is having a retreat the very same weekend. The public are invited to the retreat.
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The net result is obviously that they have for they are acting as if they did. Thus, in a nation of men, not laws, such as we have, their actions are therefore law.
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It will be renewed at Jekyll Island on the weekend of the Autumn Equinox (September 21, 2013). Coincidentally, AMORC (the Rosicrucian Order) is having a retreat the very same weekend. The public are invited to the retreat.
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Link or atleast an explenation as to how you know this?
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America's Forgotten War Against the Central Banks

[link to www.safehaven.com]

"In one year, the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed." (Benjamin Franklin)
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Here's the real answer:

[link to www.dailypaul.com]

It was essentially turned into a perpetual corporation in 1927.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]
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It will be renewed at Jekyll Island on the weekend of the Autumn Equinox (September 21, 2013). Coincidentally, AMORC (the Rosicrucian Order) is having a retreat the very same weekend. The public are invited to the retreat.
 Quoting: rcchristian


where did you find this out?


You know they are the m.o.b, so it doesn't matter what they do or don't renew.. it is ALL unlawful and I just sit here wondering what they are going to do.

this pisses me off to no end. there is not much we can do about it i guess.
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Here's the real answer:

[link to www.dailypaul.com]

It was essentially turned into a perpetual corporation in 1927.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30981074


ok, i posted the first link that you have further up the page.. no real answers there.

the second link doesn't work for me.

I just want to know what they are doing TODAY!!
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bump

For links. I'll look also.
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Re: Did The Federal Reserve Renew Their Charter That Ended 12/31/12? PIN FOR ANSWERS TO THIS MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION OF 2013!!
Sigh. Gawd, not this again. The Federal Reserve Charter does not expire. It was created by an act of congress and can only be dissolved by an act of congress. The original charter was for 20 years, and was amended in 1927 or so to be "in perpetuity" or until another act of congress dissolves it. Period. End of story.

Maybe the reason you can't find any information is because this rumor about a 99-year charter expiring is simply NOT TRUE.
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You can always ask John Titor when it expired!
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Here's the real answer:

[link to www.dailypaul.com]

It was essentially turned into a perpetual corporation in 1927.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30981074


ok, i posted the first link that you have further up the page.. no real answers there.

the second link doesn't work for me.

I just want to know what they are doing TODAY!!
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The original Federal Reserve Act of 1913 did indeed provide for expiration of the corporate "power" of the twelve Federal Reserve Banks to exist in 20 years from the banks' organization (not the adoption of the Act).

Sec. 4 ... the said Federal reserve bank shall become a body corporate and as such ... shall have power: ... Second. To have succession for a period of twenty years from its organization unless it is sooner dissolved by an Act of Congress, or unless its franchise becomes forfeited by some violation of law. Federal Reserve Act of 1913 (P.L. 63-43, 38 STAT. 251, 12 USC 221).

However, this 20-year corporate life was changed to perpetual in 1927 by Act of Feb. 25, 1927 (44 Stat. 1234) as follows:

Second. To have succession after February 25, 1927, until dissolved by Act of Congress or until forfeiture of franchise for violation of law.
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The best information always comes from the horses mouth!

[link to www.federalreserve.gov]

You can't shut them down but they can shut you down! Some things you can do:

Don't have a bank account!
If you draw a paycheck, cash it and take it to the closest Federal Reserve Bank to exchange it for REAL money and not that fake stuff. They have to do this by law!
If you need to write a check, take your real money to the Post Office and use a federal money order.
Claim exempt on your W-4 and don't file Income tax return since you aren't using their money any longer.
Also, coin is printed by the Treasury and not the Fed Res, use more coins!
 Quoting: John Donson 28607946


Interesting information....but what money does the Federal Reserve Bank give you?





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