AZ Sheriff calls for deputizing citizens to supersede Feds coming for guns

I agree with much of what you wrote, although I differ that I believe there is reason to be concerned right now

...but at the same time, it concerns me that not only on GLP but across the internet forums there seems to be a united effort to instill a sense of inevitability, of defeat, and worse of all...a perpetuation of half truths and misreadings of history, of the Constitution and of local laws

still, arguing over who is and isn't a red neck and who is superior is a pot stirring derailing of the discussion...and that's all it is, a heated discussion

And constitutionally speaking, the federal government has NO authority, other than those powers that are SPECIFICALLY delegated to it by the constitution. ALL other powers are under STATE authority.

Sure your correct X......people are afraid to tell the truth as it is and to stand up and out, from the crowd and put their mouth where their beliefs are.....BACKBONE?

AZ is heavily infiltrated also, has roadblocks up to
fifty miles inside of the state on the border with Mexico,
and is the most highly taxed western state in the union second only to California.

There are frequent checkpoints to snag drunk drivers,
begun in the early 80's by Bob Lessard, City of Phx.
Police harrassment of citizens to collect fines is a
major part of the state.

Flagstaff has a city government/law enforcement coalition
that serves completely corrupt city council individuals
who make every decision based on personal finance.

Major water resources have been hidden by these people,
while land is purchased very cheaply due to lack of water.

Native Americans are heavily burdened with this coalition,
and the DA Lisa Stankovich regularly threatens ten years
in prison and/or $10,000 fine for everyone brought in
for any alleged misdemeanor presumed to have been committed,
should anyone try go to court with an innocent plea.
Attorneys fill the courtroom hallways making deals for
innocent clients to plead and pay $3-4000 and evade jail.

City cops in Phx load up the drunk tanks (and there is room
for thousands) by grabbing people out of their beds for
bench warrants for everything from having a dog off a leash,
to loitering. Full term pregnancy for women, who are
hauled in on tickets collected by husbands is no problem.

There are INDIVIDUALS in AZ and more and more intentional
communities of citizens who plan to defend liberty with
lethal force, but far more people there are corrupt,
part of the Napolitano homosexual political 'tammany'
agenda, and just trying to suck more money for the
cities from the pockets of the people.

Bill Cooper was murdered in Eagar/Springerville by
the Sheriffs department. They drove to his house and
shot him, in broad daylight. All he had done was become
a thorn in the side of the NWO.

The open carry laws are worth it, but once you get mixed
up with crooked officials, they never stop bilking you
for money.

Last Edited by Janus198 on 01/01/2013 09:03 PM

And it exactly why they threw the "rednecks are going to save us" in there too, to divide us. No redneck will deny he hates people from the north who believe in unity of this nation, as has been well illustrated on this thread. <y aim was to inform the readers that it was just another attempt to divide us who support the Constitution and inform them that rednecks are unlikely to be on board with any unified resistance involving any northern states, to them North Dakita is a "yankee state". For the most part those in the north are far more informed about the issue and likely to unify against a common enemy because they KNOW WHAT THE CONSTITUTION ACTUALLY IS and are not still fighting the civil war.

Do YOU live in Arizona?

True Dat! I am originally from Kalispell, Montana. Back in the 90's' militias were being formed and meetings to organize them held. Huge turnouts and definitely infiltrated. This was all going down around the beginning of the first Assault Weapon ban and Ruby Ridge. Big propaganda push that the National Guard is our militia. Law enforcement kinda kept quiet when they saw how many people openly attended these initial organizing meetings. They were definitely afraid of things escalating.

The citizens already superseded the Feds, there is no need for any Government official to deputize a citizen in order for said citizen to defend his/her Creator endowed rights.

unless I missed something.........

You're arguing over perceptual connotations that really have no bearing in reality. The modern day definition of a red neck is different to many, so it truly is nothing more than a pair of words that can be used to relay one's own bias or their respect. Sort of like the word N*gger, wherein certain folks consider it a term of endearment while others use it to belittle another in some way.

What we need to discuss is the difference between good and evil, right and wrong. If we can move away from divisive labels (the ones those currently in power wish us to embrace), we might find that many of us are of very similar mind - and actually begin to work TOGETHER to resolve the very real issues that threaten to destroy all of us.

you are correct sir! It would be nice if officials agree with this position...

You have a point. Most threads get derailed, that is the nature of the internet and people for that matter.

Free speech is messy, just like freedom.

I think if you read the posts and throw out the Brits, Aussies, at least half the Canadians, assorted Euros and the ever present communist/socialist boot licking americans and we pretty much are united, in principle if not in detail.

Account for the trolls and the disinfo types and you have the internet. The trolls and gubmint worship posters,paid or unpaid, are here to disrupt, spread lies and cause confusion among other things.

We are in the propaganda stage of the conflict. I would rather it not go past that so in my view it is important to counter obvious lies and attempts at rewriting history.

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As a native American I can definitely testify to the fact that the criminal justice system to this day has a double standard, specially where burden of proof and probable cause are concerned. Because of my race I am considered less than human, not afforded the rights guaranteed by the Constitution. This attitude is pervasive in the Southern states where redneck predominate and control local law enforcement .I have had LEO tell me I should have stayed on the reservation where I belonged, and every person who has given me grief is a redneck. To claim rednecks are less likely to sell out to the feds and are going to save us all from gun confiscation is among the stupidest things I have ever heard, and is just plain stupid and ass backwards, and I am speaking though personal knowledge and experience. If anything rednecks tend to JUSTIFY gun confiscation in the average Joe's mind through their crazy actions, threats and anti-unity banter.

I agree wholeheartedly, though in my neck of the woods the word redneck is firmly defined and it is not a good thing. The white people who live in nice homes and a have educations fear them worst than they do blacks because of their irrational behavior and proclivity towards illegal activity, violence, ans substance abuse.

Is there a difference between redneck and hillbilly? Just curious where you are coming from...

For the record I was born and raised in N Illinois.

Free gun ownership?

What kind of drugs are you smoking, Eurotard?

And things will be "so much better" after we hand over the guns??

LOL!

People who live isolated in the backwoods have a tendency to deviate from societal norms, but no, to me the definition of redneck is different than hillbilly. A redneck is someone who leaves a slime trail of filth and immorality everywhere he goes, always leaving things worst than he found them. whether it is camping in the woods or moving into my neighborhood. Country folk are definitely not all rednecks, the majority in fact are not. They obey the law, take care of their children and their property and put emphasis on morality.

Some of you __________are beyond help, rednecks, hillbilly's, white trash, rich, poor.......most of you Morans are just that........Morans. Dumb ignorant college grads etc. We are doomed.....I cease to wonder why they wouldn't want 6 BILLION OF US DEAD sometimes after playing around with you folk, my goodness.........

People who live isolated in the backwoods have a tendency to deviate from societal norms, but no, to me the definition of redneck is different than hillbilly. A redneck is someone who leaves a slime trail of filth and immorality everywhere he goes, always leaving things worst than he found them. whether it is camping in the woods or moving into my neighborhood. Country folk are definitely not all rednecks, the majority in fact are not. They obey the law, take care of their children and their property and put emphasis on morality.
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I assumed that people thought redneck's are people from the south...hill people.

And don't forget your position right at the top of the list....

Funny you should ask... Here is the origin of Hillbilly. I was going to post it with the Redneck def, but thought I'd spare you the long post. From Scottish History Online:

HILLBILLY (Hillbillies)
The origin of this American nickname for mountain folk in the Ozarks and in Appalachia comes from Ulster. Ulster-Scottish (The often incorrectly labeled “Scots-Irish”) settlers in the hill-country of Appalachia brought their traditional music with them to the new world, and many of their songs and ballads dealt with William, Prince of Orange, who defeated the Catholic King James II of the Stuart family at the Battle of the Boyne, Ireland in 1690.
Supporters of King William were known as “Orangemen” and "Billy Boys" and their North American counterparts were soon referred to as "hillbillies". It is interesting to note that a traditional song of the Glasgow Rangers football club today begins with the line, "Hurrah! Hurrah! We are the Billy Boys!" and shares its tune with the famous American Civil War song, "Marching Through Georgia".

Stories abound of American National Guard units from Southern states being met upon disembarking in Britain during the First and Second World Wars with the tune, much to their displeasure! One of these stories comes from Colonel Ward Schrantz, a noted historian, Carthage Missouri native, and veteran of the Mexican Border Campaign, as well as the First and Second World Wars, documented a story where the US Army's 30th Division, made up of National Guard units from Georgia, North and South Carolina and Tennessee arrived in the United Kingdom…”a waiting British band broke into welcoming American music, and the soldiery, even the 118th Field Artillery and the 105 Medical Battalion from Georgia, broke into laughter.

The excellence of intent and the ignorance of the origins of the American music being equally obvious. The welcoming tune was “Marching Through Georgia.”

You Bastard Sons Of BITCHES without a KNOWN Father from any location outside of CONUS need to shut your Pie Hole and mind your own Damned affairs in your own Damned to hell shit-hole cUntry and but out of OUR fucking business. Nuff Said.

All of my family are from or in the foothills of the Smokie Mountains...I guess you would call them redneck's. Good church going people who would give you the shirts off of their back.

May I buy you Lunch in person?

all of a sudden i wanna get a sex chamge and marry you


wtf?lol

Awesome?

Sounds like the ultimate downer.

Not all , there are rednecks in the north, just not as many.
Here are some defining characteristics that ALL rednecks share:

Ingrained racism, especially against blacks.(I am assuming this comes from their ancestry as sharecroppers and their having to compete with blacks for the lower paying jobs.)

Lack of education and general knowledge. Most are drop outs early in their high school years, and the exceptions find themselves transformed from rednecks and at odds with their parents and families.

A certainty that they are right about everything, no matter how poorly informed they are or how convincing your argument against them is. THEY DO NOT ADMIT OR CONCEDE THEY ARE WRONG, EVER, AND "EVER" IS BIG WORD.

A total failure on their part to take care of their homes , their property, and their families in what most of us would call an acceptable manner. The exception is their pickup truck, whcih all rednecks see as a status symbol that supersedes the condition of their homes and families.

A generalized pattern of rationalization where no matter how wrong an action on their part obviously is, they find a way to justify it.

A disdain for educated people. Informing a redneck of a fact and referencing it when it goes against what he believes in the presence of others results in a physical altercation in almost every case.

A redneck will not attend a mixed race church, and for the most part churches in the south are subject to institutionalized racism

An irrational hatred and mistrust of people from urban areas.

Incest is rampant, and considered normal. It is also covered up by law enforcement in rural areas like my own..

Child abuse and neglect occurs in nearly every redneck family ranging from filth and failure to maintain basic hygiene to malnutrition, physical abuse and sexual abuse.

Rednecks always nearly always have a large collection of junk firearms and 'stockpiled' ammunition, but few are skilled marksmen and hunt using some tactic that requires only minimal skill and accuracy to acquire game.