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Sandy Hook - The "Survivor" from Ms. Rousseau's Class

 
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Another thing I find VERY disturbing......
A Judge ordered the warrants AND the contents SEALED for 90 days. Shortly after that Lt. Vance says to a news reporter that the Black Honda belongs to a Lanza family member. Did he NOT just violate that order? Sure it belongs to Nancy Lanza now we know that from public records BUT that does NOT excuse him from violating a judges order. WTF??
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Excellent point.

It's okay when it suits them, eh?
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Ok this is Newtown ONLY......the original everyone heard on youtube was a mix of Newtown and Fairfield County.

[link to www.youtube.com]

2:50 enter the school
2:55 I got bodies here (2 adults near front door)
quiet for 4 minutes.......
8:36 1 suspect down
12:35 be advised he should have long rifle and shot gun
15:15 That"s all we know at this time
15:35 End the life of Adam

The other separated recordings are listed also by that channel.
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at 2:55, the first responder says "I need units in the ..pool. I got bodies in here"

Does anyone know what he means by the "pool"?

Also, if these are the 2 bodies of the prinicipal and secretary, why did it take another 5 minutes to find Lanza so he could kill himself? If this cop is actually in the school to find the bodies, wouldn't he be more concerned with finding the gunman and taking him out? And then it took an additional 5 minutes??
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Ok this is Newtown ONLY......the original everyone heard on youtube was a mix of Newtown and Fairfield County.

[link to www.youtube.com]

2:50 enter the school
2:55 I got bodies here (2 adults near front door)
quiet for 4 minutes.......
8:36 1 suspect down
12:35 be advised he should have long rifle and shot gun
15:15 That"s all we know at this time
15:35 End the life of Adam

The other separated recordings are listed also by that channel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19200631


at 2:55, the first responder says "I need units in the ..pool. I got bodies in here"

Does anyone know what he means by the "pool"?

Also, if these are the 2 bodies of the prinicipal and secretary, why did it take another 5 minutes to find Lanza so he could kill himself? If this cop is actually in the school to find the bodies, wouldn't he be more concerned with finding the gunman and taking him out? And then it took an additional 5 minutes??
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Hey Captain dis-info from (you know what site) you can leave know and stop asking stupid questions
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Ok this is Newtown ONLY......the original everyone heard on youtube was a mix of Newtown and Fairfield County.

[link to www.youtube.com]

2:50 enter the school
2:55 I got bodies here (2 adults near front door)
quiet for 4 minutes.......
8:36 1 suspect down
12:35 be advised he should have long rifle and shot gun
15:15 That"s all we know at this time
15:35 End the life of Adam

The other separated recordings are listed also by that channel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19200631


at 2:55, the first responder says "I need units in the ..pool. I got bodies in here"

Does anyone know what he means by the "pool"?

Also, if these are the 2 bodies of the prinicipal and secretary, why did it take another 5 minutes to find Lanza so he could kill himself? If this cop is actually in the school to find the bodies, wouldn't he be more concerned with finding the gunman and taking him out? And then it took an additional 5 minutes??
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Hey Captain dis-info from (you know what site) you can leave know and stop asking stupid questions
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That ain't me, babe.
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Now all this time the media and police have been saying over and over ....."all weapons were LEGALLY registered to Nancy"

ROFLMAO really? Explain the highly ILLEGAL shotgun ?
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You know what is odd.......on all that radio footage.....they say some room numbers or names......a few victims in the front maybe some in the kitchen....they NEVER say ANYTHING about the 2 classrooms........WHY????????????????????????????????
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Sure did get quiet fast.......maybe getting close to the truth huh?
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Sure did get quiet fast.......maybe getting close to the truth huh?
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Wish I had an answer.
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Sorry, I was watching Revenge. :)

I honestly have no idea of what to make of this right now. I'll keep working on it.
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Police say there may be two shooters inside the school.
December 14, 2012


Update at 10:35 a.m. on Dec. 14

Law enforcement personnel are forming up to do a search through Sandy Hook School, according to information transmitted over the scanner. A state trooper says there’s a teacher and 18 students in the kitchen at the school.

Update at 10:30 a.m. on Dec. 14

FBI agents are on scene as police continue to investigate the shooting at Sandy Hook School. UConn EMS are also reportedly on scene, according to information transmitted over the scanner.

The vehicle police suspect to be owned by the alleged shooters is a Black Honda located in the parking lot.\\-------------

This article briefly follows the radio descriptions... more discrepancies to ponder??
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[link to northhaven.patch.com]

Police say there may be two shooters inside the school.
December 14, 2012


Update at 10:35 a.m. on Dec. 14

Law enforcement personnel are forming up to do a search through Sandy Hook School, according to information transmitted over the scanner. A state trooper says there’s a teacher and 18 students in the kitchen at the school.Update at 10:30 a.m. on Dec. 14

FBI agents are on scene as police continue to investigate the shooting at Sandy Hook School. UConn EMS are also reportedly on scene, according to information transmitted over the scanner.

The vehicle police suspect to be owned by the alleged shooters is a Black Honda located in the parking lot.\\-------------

This article briefly follows the radio descriptions... more discrepancies to ponder??
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Dead or alive?
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[link to northhaven.patch.com]

Police say there may be two shooters inside the school.
December 14, 2012


Update at 10:35 a.m. on Dec. 14

Law enforcement personnel are forming up to do a search through Sandy Hook School, according to information transmitted over the scanner. A state trooper says there’s a teacher and 18 students in the kitchen at the school.Update at 10:30 a.m. on Dec. 14

FBI agents are on scene as police continue to investigate the shooting at Sandy Hook School. UConn EMS are also reportedly on scene, according to information transmitted over the scanner.

The vehicle police suspect to be owned by the alleged shooters is a Black Honda located in the parking lot.\\-------------

This article briefly follows the radio descriptions... more discrepancies to ponder??
 Quoting: Ghost Avatar 241180


Dead or alive?
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And, where the hell is the kitchen supposed to be in this school?
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[link to www.nhregister.com]

Newtown school shooting: Transcript of police, fire radio dispatch

Published: Friday, December 14, 2012

10:28: “Roger, Closet in the kitchen, you have some victims. Let us know, we’ll call the number so you know they’re coming.”------------


Another article with a short time-line, but matching the victims in a closet in the kitchen?? Until the post I have never seen any reference to the kitchen area for victims... remember Ms. Rousseau was oddly identified as not known where or how she died... the kitchen area has never been mentioned or identified by the mainstream press... so we have a wholly different crime scene then the one presented for mass consumption... and for what possible purpose did it serve to change the first-hand accounts?

I am still looking for a better description of the kitchen area....
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This article from huffingtonpost says the little blood-covered girl was the only survivor in the class of sixteen.

Here's the key passage:

"Local pastor Jim Solomon, who spoke to the first grader after Friday's mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., recounted the story to ABC News. Of 16 children in the classroom, the unidentified girl was the only survivor" [link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

So if she's the only survivor from a class of sixteen, that means fifteen kids died from Rousseau's room; and reports have consistently stated six from Soto's, which makes...21! But weren't there 20 kids killed in the massacre?

See what I mean???
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They thought the Robbie Parker girl died, but they found her on Obama's lap. lmao
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Yep - good one!
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"Sounds Mythic"

Because it IS MYTHIC...

USA...USA...USA...Wheeere Number One....

This Kid has the greatest Killed to Injured Ratio of ALL-TIME.

If that isn't Mythic, I don't know what is...


[link to memoryholeblog.com]

A 26 to 1 ratio.

The next closest is St. Valentines Day Massacre with 7 to 1 Dead to Injured ratio.

Of Course, the photographs were too horrible to show to the public.

[link to images.search.yahoo.com]

St. Valentines Day Massacre
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
A 20 round Box Magazine, and a 50 Round Drum was used, for a total of 70 rounds and 2 shotgun blasts.

The One victim was shot 14 times and survived for 3 hours?

The two "police officers" then signaled to the pair in civilian clothes who had accompanied them. Two of the killers opened fire with Thompson sub-machine guns, one containing a 20-round box magazine and the other a 50-round drum. They were efficient, spraying their victims left and right, even continuing to fire after all seven had hit the floor. The seven men were ripped apart in the volley, and two shotgun blasts afterward all but obliterated the faces of John May and James Clark, according to the coroner's report.

To give the appearance that everything was under control, the men in street clothes came out with their hands up, prodded by the two uniformed police officers. Inside the garage, the only survivors in the warehouse were Highball (May's German Shepherd) and Frank Gusenberg. Despite fourteen bullet wounds, he was still conscious, but died three hours later, refusing to utter a word about the identities of the killers.
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I know it's off topic...

But the guys killed at the St. Valentines Day Massacre.

It was the...MORAN Gang?

It's almost Valentines Day too?
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"Sounds Mythic"

Because it IS MYTHIC...

USA...USA...USA...Wheeere Number One....

This Kid has the greatest Killed to Injured Ratio of ALL-TIME.

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He was executing 5 year olds in an enclosed space with a fucking automatic weapon.

You people sicken me.
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"Sounds Mythic"

Because it IS MYTHIC...

USA...USA...USA...Wheeere Number One....

This Kid has the greatest Killed to Injured Ratio of ALL-TIME.

If that isn't Mythic, I don't know what is...


[link to memoryholeblog.com]

A 26 to 1 ratio.

The next closest is St. Valentines Day Massacre with 7 to 1 Dead to Injured ratio.

Of Course, the photographs were too horrible to show to the public.

[link to images.search.yahoo.com]

St. Valentines Day Massacre
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
A 20 round Box Magazine, and a 50 Round Drum was used, for a total of 70 rounds and 2 shotgun blasts.

The One victim was shot 14 times and survived for 3 hours?

The two "police officers" then signaled to the pair in civilian clothes who had accompanied them. Two of the killers opened fire with Thompson sub-machine guns, one containing a 20-round box magazine and the other a 50-round drum. They were efficient, spraying their victims left and right, even continuing to fire after all seven had hit the floor. The seven men were ripped apart in the volley, and two shotgun blasts afterward all but obliterated the faces of John May and James Clark, according to the coroner's report.

To give the appearance that everything was under control, the men in street clothes came out with their hands up, prodded by the two uniformed police officers. Inside the garage, the only survivors in the warehouse were Highball (May's German Shepherd) and Frank Gusenberg. Despite fourteen bullet wounds, he was still conscious, but died three hours later, refusing to utter a word about the identities of the killers.
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The kill rate is one of the things that bothers me most about the official story. The "rail thin" autistic Lanza, with the AR-15, two pistols, and "hundreds" of rounds, shoots his way in, then kills all but one of his victims. Semi-automatic, so he had to pull the trigger for each shot.

I don't buy it.
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"Sounds Mythic"

Because it IS MYTHIC...

USA...USA...USA...Wheeere Number One....

This Kid has the greatest Killed to Injured Ratio of ALL-TIME.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34117837


He was executing 5 year olds in an enclosed space with a fucking automatic weapon.

You people sicken me.
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Nope, it was a semi-automatic, so he had to pull the trigger each time.

It's not like he pulls the trigger and a spray of bullets comes out.

He had to pull the trigger each time.

Each victim shot at least 3 times. Some as many as 11.

Nope.
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"Sounds Mythic"

Because it IS MYTHIC...

USA...USA...USA...Wheeere Number One....

This Kid has the greatest Killed to Injured Ratio of ALL-TIME.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34117837


He was executing 5 year olds in an enclosed space with a fucking automatic weapon.

You people sicken me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518


Nope, it was a semi-automatic, so he had to pull the trigger each time.

It's not like he pulls the trigger and a spray of bullets comes out.

He had to pull the trigger each time.

Each victim shot at least 3 times. Some as many as 11.

Nope.
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And you doubt it because he had to pull the trigger each time? Are you fucking for real?
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"Sounds Mythic"

Because it IS MYTHIC...

USA...USA...USA...Wheeere Number One....

This Kid has the greatest Killed to Injured Ratio of ALL-TIME.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34117837


He was executing 5 year olds in an enclosed space with a fucking automatic weapon.

You people sicken me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518


Nope, it was a semi-automatic, so he had to pull the trigger each time.

It's not like he pulls the trigger and a spray of bullets comes out.

He had to pull the trigger each time.

Each victim shot at least 3 times. Some as many as 11.

Nope.
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And you doubt it because he had to pull the trigger each time? Are you fucking for real?
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Yup, I'm fucking for real, dipshit aussie.

Unlike the official story.
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He was executing 5 year olds in an enclosed space with a fucking automatic weapon.

You people sicken me.
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Nope, it was a semi-automatic, so he had to pull the trigger each time.

It's not like he pulls the trigger and a spray of bullets comes out.

He had to pull the trigger each time.

Each victim shot at least 3 times. Some as many as 11.

Nope.
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And you doubt it because he had to pull the trigger each time? Are you fucking for real?
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Yup, I'm fucking for real, dipshit aussie.

Unlike the official story.
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Do you think that it takes some particular skill and intense training to execute 5 year olds in a classroom?
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Nope, it was a semi-automatic, so he had to pull the trigger each time.

It's not like he pulls the trigger and a spray of bullets comes out.

He had to pull the trigger each time.

Each victim shot at least 3 times. Some as many as 11.

Nope.
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And you doubt it because he had to pull the trigger each time? Are you fucking for real?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518


Yup, I'm fucking for real, dipshit aussie.

Unlike the official story.
 Quoting: Gladio


Do you think that it takes some particular skill and intense training to execute 5 year olds in a classroom?
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For one person to shoot 27 people, and kill 26, yes I do belive that would take special skill.

Not to mention the amount of gear he supposedly had.

The two handguns, the AR-15 (we won't even get into the other guns mentioned on the police scanner) and the "hundreds" of rounds.
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Police sources initially reported Lanza's sibling, Ryan Lanza, as the perpetrator. This was likely because the perpetrator was carrying his brother's identification, Ryan told The Jersey Journal.--------


What if it was unlikely? Not a single reported fact in this incident holds up to even minor scrutiny.... how tall was Adam? A normal sized man does not weigh 120 pounds wet at 20 years old.... much less 110... so his brother's ID showed what actual info? There is of course no matching details with any actual crime scene report. There is no mention of a wallet so people are left to guess what kind of ID started the merry go round that Ryan was the shooter...

or why Nancy was identified as dead in the K-class along with her kids... this is not just a bad case of sloppy journalism... it is purposeful mis-information and bold-ass-lies... lies so bold the "authorities" appear to be in cahoots with the killer, which if course has to be impossible... but the questions remain unanswered thereby, causing the very "conspiracy theories" the authorities bitch about... as if there was no connection between their incompetent investigations and the demand for answers outside of their little box of secrecy.

Every other "theory" has been caused by the lack of truth... as to what really happened that morning. What we have is a rotten puzzle the authorities do want solved.
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"Sounds Mythic"

Because it IS MYTHIC...

USA...USA...USA...Wheeere Number One....

This Kid has the greatest Killed to Injured Ratio of ALL-TIME.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34117837


He was executing 5 year olds in an enclosed space with a fucking automatic weapon.

You people sicken me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518


Nope, it was a semi-automatic, so he had to pull the trigger each time.

It's not like he pulls the trigger and a spray of bullets comes out.

He had to pull the trigger each time.

Each victim shot at least 3 times. Some as many as 11.

Nope.
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And you doubt it because he had to pull the trigger each time? Are you fucking for real?
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I know very little about guns but if Noah Pozner was shot 11 times with an AR-15 how much left of him would there be? I know its a grisly thought but its an honest question.
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Listen you all have it wrong.......it does not matter what the media told you.....they are all guessing. If you really want your head to hurt solve this for me.......there were 2 kids taken to the hospital......both died.....that leaves 18 kids. So on the police radio we have state police AND Newtown police saying there are 18 kids and 1 adult VICTIMS in a closet in the kitchen. 18+2 =20........Why are they saying it all took place in those 2 stupid classrooms? It didn't.....I think Lanza shot 5 adults and 2 kids near the front and another shooter shot 19 in the kitchen.
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Ok, I'm just speculating here. Is it possible that all 20 of the children killed were found in the kitchen, but police had already rushed two of the kids to the hospital by the time "18 kids" was announced over the radio?

I'm still uncertain, though, of whether those 18 kids found in the kitchen were the actual victims or if they were surviving kids from a different class.
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Listen you all have it wrong.......it does not matter what the media told you.....they are all guessing. If you really want your head to hurt solve this for me.......there were 2 kids taken to the hospital......both died.....that leaves 18 kids. So on the police radio we have state police AND Newtown police saying there are 18 kids and 1 adult VICTIMS in a closet in the kitchen. 18+2 =20........Why are they saying it all took place in those 2 stupid classrooms? It didn't.....I think Lanza shot 5 adults and 2 kids near the front and another shooter shot 19 in the kitchen.
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Ok, I'm just speculating here. Is it possible that all 20 of the children killed were found in the kitchen, but police had already rushed two of the kids to the hospital by the time "18 kids" was announced over the radio?

I'm still uncertain, though, of whether those 18 kids found in the kitchen were the actual victims or if they were surviving kids from a different class.
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He describes "victims" at 24:18 in the kitchen closet. Then it says there is 1 teacher and 18 students at 26:57.

Possibly the 26:57 transmission is referring to other (i.e. unharmed) individuals, but not likely.
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Listen you all have it wrong.......it does not matter what the media told you.....they are all guessing. If you really want your head to hurt solve this for me.......there were 2 kids taken to the hospital......both died.....that leaves 18 kids. So on the police radio we have state police AND Newtown police saying there are 18 kids and 1 adult VICTIMS in a closet in the kitchen. 18+2 =20........Why are they saying it all took place in those 2 stupid classrooms? It didn't.....I think Lanza shot 5 adults and 2 kids near the front and another shooter shot 19 in the kitchen.
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Ok, I'm just speculating here. Is it possible that all 20 of the children killed were found in the kitchen, but police had already rushed two of the kids to the hospital by the time "18 kids" was announced over the radio?

I'm still uncertain, though, of whether those 18 kids found in the kitchen were the actual victims or if they were surviving kids from a different class.
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If you listen to the radio traffic police enter the school about 9:46. They find the 2 adults in the hall by the front door right away. They say suspect down and describe what weapons a shooter should have about 4 and 8 minutes after that. They say nothing about victims in the front classrooms or escorting kids out of the school. About 17 minutes after entering the school they find a LARGE number of victims as you hear them say "call for everything" "call Danbury if you have to". It would NOT take them 17 minutes to find bodies in the rooms that close to the front door. They would also not need to say where there are live people as they were just escorting them out as they found them. I think 5 adults and 2 kids were found near the front entrance and rooms and the others were in the kitchen. Remember, there were 2-3 parents who claim they were going back to the school to help build gingerbread houses so maybe 1-2 classes of kids went right to the kitchen to start cooking. The question is were these kids targeted on purpose or killed randomly? Why pass up all other classrooms to find these kids? You have multiple weapons and you can blow the dorrs open yet you go find these specific kids? WHY???
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Listen you all have it wrong.......it does not matter what the media told you.....they are all guessing. If you really want your head to hurt solve this for me.......there were 2 kids taken to the hospital......both died.....that leaves 18 kids. So on the police radio we have state police AND Newtown police saying there are 18 kids and 1 adult VICTIMS in a closet in the kitchen. 18+2 =20........Why are they saying it all took place in those 2 stupid classrooms? It didn't.....I think Lanza shot 5 adults and 2 kids near the front and another shooter shot 19 in the kitchen.
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Possibly the 26:57 transmission is referring to other (i.e. unharmed) individuals, but not likely.
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If you listen before 24:00 you will hear why they are discussing these victim's. An inbound ER support unit is getting close and they are asking for directions to the specific area of the crime scene.
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Listen you all have it wrong.......it does not matter what the media told you.....they are all guessing. If you really want your head to hurt solve this for me.......there were 2 kids taken to the hospital......both died.....that leaves 18 kids. So on the police radio we have state police AND Newtown police saying there are 18 kids and 1 adult VICTIMS in a closet in the kitchen. 18+2 =20........Why are they saying it all took place in those 2 stupid classrooms? It didn't.....I think Lanza shot 5 adults and 2 kids near the front and another shooter shot 19 in the kitchen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19200631



Ok, I'm just speculating here. Is it possible that all 20 of the children killed were found in the kitchen, but police had already rushed two of the kids to the hospital by the time "18 kids" was announced over the radio?

I'm still uncertain, though, of whether those 18 kids found in the kitchen were the actual victims or if they were surviving kids from a different class.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25326483

If you listen to the radio traffic police enter the school about 9:46. They find the 2 adults in the hall by the front door right away. They say suspect down and describe what weapons a shooter should have about 4 and 8 minutes after that. They say nothing about victims in the front classrooms or escorting kids out of the school. About 17 minutes after entering the school they find a LARGE number of victims as you hear them say "call for everything" "call Danbury if you have to". It would NOT take them 17 minutes to find bodies in the rooms that close to the front door. They would also not need to say where there are live people as they were just escorting them out as they found them. I think 5 adults and 2 kids were found near the front entrance and rooms and the others were in the kitchen. Remember, there were 2-3 parents who claim they were going back to the school to help build gingerbread houses so maybe 1-2 classes of kids went right to the kitchen to start cooking. The question is were these kids targeted on purpose or killed randomly? Why pass up all other classrooms to find these kids? You have multiple weapons and you can blow the dorrs open yet you go find these specific kids? WHY???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19200631


OK, I'm not certain if you're correct, but I think what you're suggesting at least sounds like plausible scenario.

So why do you believe that two of the children were found elsewhere in the building?

Is it possible that all 20 of the children were found in the kitchen, but 2 of the kids had already been rushed to the hospital by the time "18 kids" was announced over the radio?