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Sandy Hook - The "Survivor" from Ms. Rousseau's Class

 
Zephyr
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02/17/2013 11:25 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but as our EMS poster mentioned in another thread, policemen don't generally "pronounced" death. That takes a certain procedure, and you rarely assume someone is dead.

I have a hard time believing a member of law enforcement entered the building, found a large number of shot children, and felt comfortable assuming they were all dead and therefore no EMS was necessary.
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We have three sources - two sets of parents and a state representative - who said that a group of Soto's students escaped and were driven to the police station. Two of these sources stated that there were 5 children in this group.

Aidan Licata's parents [link to www.cnn.com]
Aidan and the boys ran toward the front door, out of the building and then toward the main road where a woman stopped, picked them up and drove them to the police station.

Bryce Maskel's mother, Jen
[link to www.people.com]
Not long afterward another mom told Jen that five kids who'd escaped were at the Newtown police station. "She said two moms found them running down the road a half mile from the school," Jen says. "She didn't know which kids they were, though."

State Rep. John Frey [link to www.newstimes.com]
Tricia Gogliettino (John Frey's sister).... was driving to Sandy Hook Elementary School Friday morning to deliver a gingerbread house she and her first-grader had made as a school project.

She was about one mile from the school on Riverside Road when she saw five young children running up the road. She stopped the car and asked them what they were doing, said Gogliettino's brother, Ridgefield state Rep. John Frey. They told her, "Someone is trying to kill us. We were told to run," said Frey, recounting the episode Gogliettino had related.


Frey tweeted about his sister on the morning of the 14th [link to twitter.com (secure)]
Gladio (OP)

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2/19/13 MORE MEDIA BULLSHIT

From the Hartford Courant, 2/18/13:

"Lanza killed all but one student in Rousseau's class, where the children were massed together in a back corner of the room near a bathroom. One girl escaped because she played dead and ran out of the room after Lanza left."

[link to www.courant.com]

That conflicts with this NY Times account, from 1/26/13:

"Officer Penna, who was the first officer to enter the second room, found a girl standing alone amid the bodies. She appeared to be in shock, and was covered in blood, but had not been injured. He, not knowing the gunman had been found, told her to stay put.

He ran into the next classroom and saw the dead gunman, with Officers Chapman and Smith standing nearby. State troopers and other officers were now flooding in. Officer Penna returned to the second classroom, his rifle slung around his chest, grabbed the uninjured girl by the arm and ran with her out to a triage area set up in the parking lot."


[link to www.nytimes.com]

Fog of war? Nope, these articles are both from several weeks after the event.

How, then, is this explained? A key detail about the only survivor from Rousseau's class.

Could it be they can't keep their lies straight?
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02/19/2013 05:38 PM
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2/19/13 MORE MEDIA BULLSHIT

From the Hartford Courant, 2/18/13:

"Lanza killed all but one student in Rousseau's class, where the children were massed together in a back corner of the room near a bathroom. One girl escaped because she played dead and ran out of the room after Lanza left."

[link to www.courant.com]

That conflicts with this NY Times account, from 1/26/13:

"Officer Penna, who was the first officer to enter the second room, found a girl standing alone amid the bodies. She appeared to be in shock, and was covered in blood, but had not been injured. He, not knowing the gunman had been found, told her to stay put.

He ran into the next classroom and saw the dead gunman, with Officers Chapman and Smith standing nearby. State troopers and other officers were now flooding in. Officer Penna returned to the second classroom, his rifle slung around his chest, grabbed the uninjured girl by the arm and ran with her out to a triage area set up in the parking lot."


[link to www.nytimes.com]

Fog of war? Nope, these articles are both from several weeks after the event.

How, then, is this explained? A key detail about the only survivor from Rousseau's class.

Could it be they can't keep their lies straight?
 Quoting: Gladio


hehe... and you dont talk about Pastor Jim Solomon interview... and Mergim Bajraliu (early witness)

and i dont think that triage area was already set up so early.

i think a girl "in shock" covered by blood must go to hospital.

but the 2 kids driven to hospital died.
Fred-S

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2/19/13 MORE MEDIA BULLSHIT

From the Hartford Courant, 2/18/13:
...

[link to www.courant.com]
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 Quoting: Gladio


sorry to ask this.
but in this article this is the video that is interesting.

"Marvin LaFontaine, a friend of Nancy Lanza's, describes a young, shy Adam who did not like to be touched in the two-part"

what means "touched in the two part"?
i tried to google this, but i am still not sure.
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02/19/2013 06:55 PM
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Re: Sandy Hook - The "Survivor" from Ms. Rousseau's Class
New pic of Adam Lanza released...

[link to www.pbs.org]
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Natalie Hammond


[link to www.youtube.com]
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02/19/2013 07:15 PM
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Some new video I haven't seen before..


[link to www.youtube.com]
Gladio (OP)

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Some new video I haven't seen before..


[link to www.youtube.com]
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Good videos. Natalie Hammond finally appears publicly at a Boston Bruins promotional visit to Newtown, and the loitering woman at the firehouse.
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2/19/13 MORE MEDIA BULLSHIT

From the Hartford Courant, 2/18/13:

"Lanza killed all but one student in Rousseau's class, where the children were massed together in a back corner of the room near a bathroom. One girl escaped because she played dead and ran out of the room after Lanza left."

[link to www.courant.com]

That conflicts with this NY Times account, from 1/26/13:

"Officer Penna, who was the first officer to enter the second room, found a girl standing alone amid the bodies. She appeared to be in shock, and was covered in blood, but had not been injured. He, not knowing the gunman had been found, told her to stay put.

He ran into the next classroom and saw the dead gunman, with Officers Chapman and Smith standing nearby. State troopers and other officers were now flooding in. Officer Penna returned to the second classroom, his rifle slung around his chest, grabbed the uninjured girl by the arm and ran with her out to a triage area set up in the parking lot."


[link to www.nytimes.com]

Fog of war? Nope, these articles are both from several weeks after the event.

How, then, is this explained? A key detail about the only survivor from Rousseau's class.

Could it be they can't keep their lies straight?
 Quoting: Gladio


bump
Stickywicket

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Though I can sort of see a bit of a resemblance, is it safe to assume the lady on the gurney is NOT Natalie Hammond? The gurney lady was also wearing little glasses.

And, it sounds like from this interview that its been Hammond's first outing since the shooting. So, does that mean that Elizabeth Esty was lying when she said that Hammond AND the McDonnells were at the State of the Union?
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DiamondGal

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bump Was there a picture of the woman on the gurney?
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2/19/13 MORE MEDIA BULLSHIT

From the Hartford Courant, 2/18/13:

"Lanza killed all but one student in Rousseau's class, where the children were massed together in a back corner of the room near a bathroom. One girl escaped because she played dead and ran out of the room after Lanza left."

[link to www.courant.com]

That conflicts with this NY Times account, from 1/26/13:

"Officer Penna, who was the first officer to enter the second room, found a girl standing alone amid the bodies. She appeared to be in shock, and was covered in blood, but had not been injured. He, not knowing the gunman had been found, told her to stay put.

He ran into the next classroom and saw the dead gunman, with Officers Chapman and Smith standing nearby. State troopers and other officers were now flooding in. Officer Penna returned to the second classroom, his rifle slung around his chest, grabbed the uninjured girl by the arm and ran with her out to a triage area set up in the parking lot."


[link to www.nytimes.com]

Fog of war? Nope, these articles are both from several weeks after the event.

How, then, is this explained? A key detail about the only survivor from Rousseau's class.

Could it be they can't keep their lies straight?
 Quoting: Gladio


Not sure if this is important but I went looking for a footprint of Officer Larry Penna and Jason Flynn and noted that in 2010 at least they were school resource officers I find it a might unusual that these resource officers were the first into the building. Something is smelling methinks.

[link to newtown.patch.com]

and the screen capture in case it disappears.

[link to img203.imageshack.us]

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hey hacker! good threads wont die
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HEY BEASTS: * STOP * ...
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spam again?
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GOOD STUFF

BUT YOU MISS THAT WE ALREADY EXPOSED HER AND HER "FAMILY" AS ACTORS!

NOT MUCH MORE NEEDED TO KNOW:

Thread: Another pair of actors in Sandy hoax exposed. 100% BUSTED! (Page 16)

Thread: Another pair of actors in Sandy hoax exposed. 100% BUSTED! (Page 22)

Cant get more evidence
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Dude you seriously need some glasses. These are not the same people. Yes the younger photos of the actor family look somewhat what like the Soto's but they aren't them. If you look at the photos on Leon greenbergs Facebook it's clear that the boy in the picture on the left is not the Soto son. They look completely different. Seriously stop reaching. Your evidence is horrible, you seriously need to get your eyes checked. Give it up. You haven't debunked anything. And your references to the teacher are so far off. There is no way that girl in the greenberg pictures is the teacher in the interview. They look nothing alike. NOTHING ALIKE!!!!!!! Move along and find something more constructive to do with your time. You are a crappy private investigator. bsflag
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GOOD STUFF
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Dude you seriously need some glasses. These are not the same people. Yes the younger photos of the actor family look somewhat what like the Soto's but they aren't them. If you look at the photos on Leon greenbergs Facebook it's clear that the boy in the picture on the left is not the Soto son. They look completely different. Seriously stop reaching. Your evidence is horrible, you seriously need to get your eyes checked. Give it up. You haven't debunked anything. And your references to the teacher are so far off. There is no way that girl in the greenberg pictures is the teacher in the interview. They look nothing alike. NOTHING ALIKE!!!!!!! Move along and find something more constructive to do with your time. You are a crappy private investigator. bsflag
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bump too...

and you quote the whole spam... clever!
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According to this the final report will be completed by the end of June.

[link to www.pbs.org]


Will be interesting to what they will say, and what the final timeline will be.
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G!adio is dead.

Not the poster (yet), just the profile.

Not by my choice.

[link to godlikeproductions.com]

The account is finished, but i'm not.

I had been posting w/ names like I, Gladius and Adio-Glay (by proxy, of course). I no longer think this is a good idea as some shill imposters have used those names to post, representing themselves as me. This has also happened to a handfull of other S.H. researchers. Shows the level of desperation the forces of evil have reached.

So from now on, 3/20/13 5:15pm eastern dayight savings time, any post under any of the following names will not be me:

I, Gladius
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Anonymous Coward
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The identity of the survivor from Ms. Rousseau's class is now known, since her parents signed a public letter to Governor Malloy.
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The identity of the survivor from Ms. Rousseau's class is now known, since her parents signed a public letter to Governor Malloy.
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That's interesting. If you have a link for that it would be great. What's the parents' last name?
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What's a sandy hook?
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The identity of the survivor from Ms. Rousseau's class is now known, since her parents signed a public letter to Governor Malloy.
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That's interesting. If you have a link for that it would be great. What's the parents' last name?
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bump!
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The identity of the survivor from Ms. Rousseau's class is now known, since her parents signed a public letter to Governor Malloy.
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That's interesting. If you have a link for that it would be great. What's the parents' last name?
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Hatcher:

[link to www.newtownbee.com]
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Both the formerly-anonymous 2nd wounded teacher, and the formerly-anonymous child survivors were all identified (de facto) via this letter, so obviously whatever reservations the investigation had in releasing their names previously, were moot as of May (the date of the letter's release).
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And/or whatever gag orders these families were under had by then been, for whatever reason, lifted.
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And/or whatever gag orders these families were under had by then been, for whatever reason, lifted.
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Christy & Rob Hatcher

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Interestingly these people were never part of the sandy hook machinery.

They are an important part. Cause they and their integrity could tell us at least if there really was a shooter/dead kids.
The parents of the dead kids are very suspicious and not acting like parents of dead kids.
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We won't be hearing much from the Hatchers. They had just moved to town about a year earlier (like the rest of the victims), and now their home is completely empty...looks desserted and run down.

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