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Government Health Care Kills More Brits Than Guns Kill Americans

 
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If you are stupid enough to use the system you have to appreciate that this might happen.

The NHS has killed both my Nan's, my Dad, prpobably 1 of 2 Grandads and has also had a go at my wife and brother in law, do i trust them, do i fuck, would i use the NHS, would i fuck. Obarmy care you lot are fucked
 Quoting: F F S


The level of stupidity here is almost off the scale.

What did they die from, if I might ask? I am willing to bet that in the United States they would have died from the same illness.. possibly sooner if they didn't have insurance or the money to pay. In addition, after passing away you would be on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical costs.

Get lost, idiot.
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Anything run by the government is going to be a major disaster in the first place but when it's life and death, this has to be the inevitable result.
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thank you thumbs

commentst after the article were interesting, a couple from canadians:

"Canada's health care system literally does not care about you once you turn 80."

"as one of the few Canadians opposed to universal healthcare and gun control I can tell you socialized medicine is a big fat cash cow,its inefficiency leaves you waiting for hours in the emergency room also it drives up your taxes income and retail, as for gun control at least we scrapped our gun registry"

when we were having the "debate" i read an article about canadians who come to the US for care and they begged us not to allow socialized medicine in the US as they didn't know where they would go for care. oh boy what a mess.
 Quoting: davvi


How many Americans die because they just cant afford treatment or surgery for a treatment? it must run into the tens of thousands..

At least in the UK you will always get the surgery or treatment even if you have to wait a while...and if it requires emergency treatment you will get it right away...
 Quoting: LosTLocos


I have NEVER heard of anyone denied treatment.
You go to the emergency room, you are in.

You may be billed, but our local level 4 trauma center does NOT turn anyone away, ever.

And you will get good care.

Having said that, I am someone who has worked in both nursing homes and hospitals here and in Germany.

There is no question whatsover in my mind that any sane
person avoids hospitals if they can,

but if you need care,
AMERICAN CARE IS VASTLY SUPERIOR.
 Quoting: beeches

And no family needs to leave their home because of one family members illness?
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If you are stupid enough to use the system you have to appreciate that this might happen.

The NHS has killed both my Nan's, my Dad, prpobably 1 of 2 Grandads and has also had a go at my wife and brother in law, do i trust them, do i fuck, would i use the NHS, would i fuck. Obarmy care you lot are fucked
 Quoting: F F S


The level of stupidity here is almost off the scale.

What did they die from, if I might ask? I am willing to bet that in the United States they would have died from the same illness.. possibly sooner if they didn't have insurance or the money to pay. In addition, after passing away you would be on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical costs.

Get lost, idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27526740


Thank God us helthcare costs are dropping so fast! It'll be free soon!


Idiot.
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Americans love their fellow Americans. They just couldn't give a fuck about them.
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As a Brit abroad I have to agree with you OP.

The NHS is not the worst thing ever...but it is the best of the worst.

Socialism always leads to malpractice, corruption and carelessness.

It is one of the reasons I left the UK, I cannot stand the caving in to socialism there...everything is run by the loony left and nobody has the bloody spine to say anything.
I tried and was slapped down for it, so I left.

Good riddance, anyone who has a brain is leaving the UK now - it is a sinking ship, I give it another 5-10 years for civil unrest.



Good post OP - socialism is cancer.
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oh and another thing, did you know the NHS currently employs 1.7 MILLION people?

A country of 60 million...do the maths.

That is absolutely INSANE!



Another fun tidbit, did you know for every nurse and practicing doctor in the NHS there are TWO people in accountancy/management positions?

Socialist waste at its finest.
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OP is a typical uneducated American. No sense, no intelligence, just purely uneducated.

Both my brothers are doctors and the NHS has saved tens of millions of lives. How would the average person be able to afford a £110,000 operation? Have you thought about that? No? What a surprise!

Maybe if you stopped attacking Muslims and countries who have actual health care systems you might wake up and see how your nation is literally crumbling around you.
 Quoting: Mohammed 17601732




I believe someone has already pointed out MEDICARE for people in the US who cannot afford heath care.

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OP is a typical uneducated American. No sense, no intelligence, just purely uneducated.

Both my brothers are doctors and the NHS has saved tens of millions of lives. How would the average person be able to afford a £110,000 operation? Have you thought about that? No? What a surprise!

Maybe if you stopped attacking Muslims and countries who have actual health care systems you might wake up and see how your nation is literally crumbling around you.
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OP is a typical uneducated American. No sense, no intelligence, just purely uneducated.

Both my brothers are doctors and the NHS has saved tens of millions of lives. How would the average person be able to afford a £110,000 operation? Have you thought about that? No? What a surprise!

Maybe if you stopped attacking Muslims and countries who have actual health care systems you might wake up and see how your nation is literally crumbling around you.
 Quoting: Mohammed 17601732



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Thick as.

Ever heard of medical insurance? You pay it already through your taxes!!!

Except when you pay it about 40% of it is squandered on useless bureaucracy.

/sigh

Bloody socialists...
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In 2011, 8,583 Americans were killed with firearms. Meanwhile in the UK, the National Health Service is killing 1,000 people a month or 12,000 a year.


We’re not talking natural or inevitable deaths, but preventable deaths that were caused by an overburdened and poorly managed health care system.


The study found that something went wrong with the care of 13 per cent of the patients who died in hospitals. An error only led to a death in 5.2 per cent of these cases, which was the equivalent to nearly 12,000 preventable deaths in hospitals in England every year.

13 percent and 5 percent of deaths are far higher numbers than anything you will find among gun owners. And here’s what that looks like.


The Office for National Statistics figures also showed that 43 people who starved to death, 287 people were recorded by doctors as being malnourished when they died in hospitals;

there were 558 cases where doctors recorded that a patient had died in a state of severe dehydration in hospitals

21,696 hospital patients and 1,100 care home residents were suffering from the blood poisoning when they died.

In July, an inquest heard that a young man who died of dehydration at a leading hospital rang 999 for police because he was so thirsty.

[link to frontpagemag.com]

one of the things i have against the brits, they have a hideous healthcare system and they know it. yet they are the same people who call us "barbaric" for not wanting the same crap here as they have there, and they are the same people who tell us "get rid of your guns."

if socialized medicine doesn't work in a little country of some 60 million, how will it work in a country of 314 million?
 Quoting: davvi


doesn't 'blood poisoning ' = septicaemia
which is pretty fatal even when it's treated fast

and the study showed that 1:10 hospital deaths involoved an error
that doesn't mean the 'error' caused the death

there are errors and sometimes fatal ones - no doubt

but the figures you have quoted don't back your arguement
for having guns i'm afraid







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This obamacare is going to do nothing except promote more fraud and overcharging at all levels. Everytime the government gets involved in healthcare fraud eventually follows. If the government really wanted to fix the problem, they would look at the real issues and that is overpricing that trickles up. The doctors charge as much as they can to the insurance companies, and in turn the insurance companies do the same. Don't get it still? Go to the hospital for some medicine, then go to your doctor for the same medicine. Your going to pay 5 times more at the hospital then at the doctor. Its legalized fraud. Regulate this and you solve the whole american healthcare fiasco. Unless they don't want it solved, imagine the fraud that will go on now that the government is paying the bill and the people making the most of it all are huge donors to several congressman. Mark my words the rich will get richer and the rest of us will continue to suffer.
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U.S. has second worst newborn death rate in modern world, report says.
The United States has the second worst newborn mortality rate in the developed world, according to a new report.

American babies are three times more likely to die in their first month as children born in Japan, and newborn mortality is 2.5 times higher in the United States than in Finland, Iceland or Norway, Save the Children researchers found
[link to articles.cnn.com]

Says a lot, really
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That's because nobody outside America tries save a 6 ounce baby! Numbers can be used to show anything you want, but you have to research a little to get the whole story.
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If you are stupid enough to use the system you have to appreciate that this might happen.

The NHS has killed both my Nan's, my Dad, prpobably 1 of 2 Grandads and has also had a go at my wife and brother in law, do i trust them, do i fuck, would i use the NHS, would i fuck. Obarmy care you lot are fucked
 Quoting: F F S


The level of stupidity here is almost off the scale.

What did they die from, if I might ask? I am willing to bet that in the United States they would have died from the same illness.. possibly sooner if they didn't have insurance or the money to pay. In addition, after passing away you would be on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical costs.

Get lost, idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27526740


Thank God us helthcare costs are dropping so fast! It'll be free soon!


Idiot.
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


I'm going to assume you quoted the wrong person, because I didn't say anything about US healthcare costs. They are astronomical, the reason for that has many components.. but privatized health insurance is one of them.
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Meanwhile, in the US, iatrogenic death rates are generally quoted as 225,000 per year, or .072% of the population, while the UK iatrogenic death rate is .019%

This is a weird apples and oranges argument. Comparing apples and apples makes no case against the NHS, as they're doing quite a bit better than the US.
 Quoting: AlkaliDesert


Yep, here's the source:

[link to articles.mercola.com]

And I just looked it up and it might actually be even worse than that:

[link to www.ourcivilisation.com]

420,000 deaths a year just through errors, let alone unnecessary treatments carried out for profit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27172464


errors? ohh and dying of THIRST and MALNUTRITION is a doctor's error?

now as for your sources, they wouldn't be proponents of america's new socialized medicine would they? i guess we should ban hospitals and doctors, eh? filthy murderers...

anything which is bad for this country has you brits celebrating.
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Great thread Davvi ! 5* !

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As a Brit abroad I have to agree with you OP.

The NHS is not the worst thing ever...but it is the best of the worst.

Socialism always leads to malpractice, corruption and carelessness.

It is one of the reasons I left the UK, I cannot stand the caving in to socialism there...everything is run by the loony left and nobody has the bloody spine to say anything.
I tried and was slapped down for it, so I left.

Good riddance, anyone who has a brain is leaving the UK now - it is a sinking ship, I give it another 5-10 years for civil unrest.



Good post OP - socialism is cancer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26304270


i hear you and find it sad that you are driven out of your country because of the loons. i know there are a few of you good ones left, but like the right in my country we have found that common sense is no longer in charge. live well and prosper in your new land. thumbs
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Great thread Davvi ! 5* !

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thanks buddy. cheers
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Anything run by the government is going to be a major disaster in the first place but when it's life and death, this has to be the inevitable result.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Most of our "doctors" are quacks, pushing Big-Pharma drugs.

Our hospitals are cesspits of MRSA, and other horrible infections.

My advice to everyone is, have nothing to do with the "Health Services", unless you are in a life or death situation!

damned

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If you are stupid enough to use the system you have to appreciate that this might happen.

The NHS has killed both my Nan's, my Dad, prpobably 1 of 2 Grandads and has also had a go at my wife and brother in law, do i trust them, do i fuck, would i use the NHS, would i fuck. Obarmy care you lot are fucked
 Quoting: F F S


The level of stupidity here is almost off the scale.

What did they die from, if I might ask? I am willing to bet that in the United States they would have died from the same illness.. possibly sooner if they didn't have insurance or the money to pay. In addition, after passing away you would be on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical costs.

Get lost, idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27526740


don't you dare tell another psoter to get lost. her experiences may show others what to look out for. jeez do you really think putting the american government in charge of anything is a good idea?

the british think that the US government is incompetent and yet they insist that we the people put that same incompetency in charge of our lives or more than likely our deaths? pull you head out of obama's ass and take a deep breath.
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Anything run by the government is going to be a major disaster in the first place but when it's life and death, this has to be the inevitable result.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Most of our "doctors" are quacks, pushing Big-Pharma drugs.

Our hospitals are cesspits of MRSA, and other horrible infections.

My advice to everyone is, have nothing to do with the "Health Services", unless you are in a life or death situation!

damned

drevil
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the complaint i hear most often is that your doctors are foreign and do not speak english? dear god the irony....
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thank you thumbs

commentst after the article were interesting, a couple from canadians:

"Canada's health care system literally does not care about you once you turn 80."

"as one of the few Canadians opposed to universal healthcare and gun control I can tell you socialized medicine is a big fat cash cow,its inefficiency leaves you waiting for hours in the emergency room also it drives up your taxes income and retail, as for gun control at least we scrapped our gun registry"

when we were having the "debate" i read an article about canadians who come to the US for care and they begged us not to allow socialized medicine in the US as they didn't know where they would go for care. oh boy what a mess.
 Quoting: davvi


How many Americans die because they just cant afford treatment or surgery for a treatment? it must run into the tens of thousands..

At least in the UK you will always get the surgery or treatment even if you have to wait a while...and if it requires emergency treatment you will get it right away...
 Quoting: LosTLocos


I have NEVER heard of anyone denied treatment.
You go to the emergency room, you are in.

You may be billed, but our local level 4 trauma center does NOT turn anyone away, ever.

And you will get good care.

Having said that, I am someone who has worked in both nursing homes and hospitals here and in Germany.

There is no question whatsover in my mind that any sane
person avoids hospitals if they can,

but if you need care,
AMERICAN CARE IS VASTLY SUPERIOR.
 Quoting: beeches

And no family needs to leave their home because of one family members illness?
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450


no because hospitals and doctor are famous for making financial arrangements for families in need. but what generally happens here is YOUR EMPLOYER pays for your insurance as part of your overall employment package.

Now with obamadeathcare, most employers well stop paying for it and it will fall to the tax payer to pick up the tab. as it stands now the poor have medicaid already paid for by the taxpayer. all obamadeathcare does is shift the costs from business to taxpayer.
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U.S. has second worst newborn death rate in modern world, report says.
The United States has the second worst newborn mortality rate in the developed world, according to a new report.

American babies are three times more likely to die in their first month as children born in Japan, and newborn mortality is 2.5 times higher in the United States than in Finland, Iceland or Norway, Save the Children researchers found
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Says a lot, really
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19347441


lol, ah give it up brit, your healthcare system stinks and pointing fingers at the US is not going to change anything for you and your eventual end of life experience.
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The irony!

IT BURNZ!!!
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Anything run by the government is going to be a major disaster in the first place but when it's life and death, this has to be the inevitable result.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Would you rather it be run like, say, Enron?, AIG?? BP?, MCI??, Exxon, how about those privatized prison systems? All good for the people!!
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Anything run by the government is going to be a major disaster in the first place but when it's life and death, this has to be the inevitable result.
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Would you rather it be run like, say, Enron?, AIG?? BP?, MCI??, Exxon, how about those privatized prison systems? All good for the people!!
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and are you going to enjoy submitting to the DMV and IRS type of administration? how about death panels are you ready? there will be no APPEAL once the federal gov says NO CARE FOR YOU, YOU ARE TOO OLD!

that 's how they do it in canada and canada has a much smaller population than we have. why do you think their PMs come here for care????? why do you think florida has a whole cottage industry of doctors treating canadian patients for things they can't get done in canada? will you THINK FOR just ONCE?
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As a Brit abroad I have to agree with you OP.

The NHS is not the worst thing ever...but it is the best of the worst.

Socialism always leads to malpractice, corruption and carelessness.

It is one of the reasons I left the UK, I cannot stand the caving in to socialism there...everything is run by the loony left and nobody has the bloody spine to say anything.
I tried and was slapped down for it, so I left.

Good riddance, anyone who has a brain is leaving the UK now - it is a sinking ship, I give it another 5-10 years for civil unrest.



Good post OP - socialism is cancer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26304270


i hear you and find it sad that you are driven out of your country because of the loons. i know there are a few of you good ones left, but like the right in my country we have found that common sense is no longer in charge. live well and prosper in your new land. thumbs
 Quoting: davvi



Cheers mate, yeah it seems the socialists and lunatics are spreading like wildfire these days...it really is hard to find somewhere to live with people who have even a modicum of common sense left.

Good to see the American spirit is still alive over there, once the USA falls I fear for the future of our civilisation - the communist Chinese will have no compunction about taking by force what they require, regardless of international rules or laws.


Fight hard against the socialists and tyrants!

God bless
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Actually turns MANY MORE slightly insane, as witnesses by their repeated idiotic replies to GLP threads, OR, haven't you noticed ?
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As a Brit abroad I have to agree with you OP.

The NHS is not the worst thing ever...but it is the best of the worst.

Socialism always leads to malpractice, corruption and carelessness.

It is one of the reasons I left the UK, I cannot stand the caving in to socialism there...everything is run by the loony left and nobody has the bloody spine to say anything.
I tried and was slapped down for it, so I left.

Good riddance, anyone who has a brain is leaving the UK now - it is a sinking ship, I give it another 5-10 years for civil unrest.



Good post OP - socialism is cancer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26304270


i hear you and find it sad that you are driven out of your country because of the loons. i know there are a few of you good ones left, but like the right in my country we have found that common sense is no longer in charge. live well and prosper in your new land. thumbs
 Quoting: davvi



Cheers mate, yeah it seems the socialists and lunatics are spreading like wildfire these days...it really is hard to find somewhere to live with people who have even a modicum of common sense left.

Good to see the American spirit is still alive over there, once the USA falls I fear for the future of our civilisation - the communist Chinese will have no compunction about taking by force what they require, regardless of international rules or laws.


Fight hard against the socialists and tyrants!

God bless
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we are trying, but it is like wave after wave of locust coming over the hill never ending and estroyinbg everything in sight. as for american spirit, at this point that spirit is frowned upon by our new citizens and declared racist by our media, in our schools, and in our very government regardless of party.

there are still small pockets of sense left but they/we are almost powerless against santa claus in the white house and the overwhelming greed of parasites. we are done for. peace to you...
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I am proud to be Black says the Black.
I am proud to be Asian says the Asian.
I am proud to be White says the "racist."


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oh, i forgot, thanks for the pin. hf
I am proud to be Hispanic says the Hispanic.
I am proud to be Black says the Black.
I am proud to be Asian says the Asian.
I am proud to be White says the "racist."


I never give RED karma, only GREEN for great posters. If you give me red or green please leave your name, I like to say thank you...

Leftist Jews create anti-Semitism.

Krauthammer: "If Fences Don't Work, Why Is There One Around The White House?"
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I read a story awhile back the BNP put out on the subject. They say the biggest part of the problem is all the equal opportunity pakies and africans that are now working in hospitals.

These shitty third world immigrants step off the bananna boat right out of the stane age, don't undertsand even basic concepts of sanitation, don't wash their hands, never clean anything to even african hospital standards. So consequently they've created conditions similar to a hospital in Uganda or the Congo right in the heart of England. The hospitals are filthy, shitty and full of filthy and shitty workers.

So infections, horrible diseases and general third world ignorance and incompetence kill thousands every year. All so the limey government can say they're being more inclusive with the minorities.
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As a Brit abroad I have to agree with you OP.

The NHS is not the worst thing ever...but it is the best of the worst.

Socialism always leads to malpractice, corruption and carelessness.

It is one of the reasons I left the UK, I cannot stand the caving in to socialism there...everything is run by the loony left and nobody has the bloody spine to say anything.
I tried and was slapped down for it, so I left.

Good riddance, anyone who has a brain is leaving the UK now - it is a sinking ship, I give it another 5-10 years for civil unrest.



Good post OP - socialism is cancer.
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i hear you and find it sad that you are driven out of your country because of the loons. i know there are a few of you good ones left, but like the right in my country we have found that common sense is no longer in charge. live well and prosper in your new land. thumbs
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Cheers mate, yeah it seems the socialists and lunatics are spreading like wildfire these days...it really is hard to find somewhere to live with people who have even a modicum of common sense left.

Good to see the American spirit is still alive over there, once the USA falls I fear for the future of our civilisation - the communist Chinese will have no compunction about taking by force what they require, regardless of international rules or laws.


Fight hard against the socialists and tyrants!

God bless
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