Government Health Care Kills More Brits Than Guns Kill Americans

If you are stupid enough to use the system you have to appreciate that this might happen.

The NHS has killed both my Nan's, my Dad, prpobably 1 of 2 Grandads and has also had a go at my wife and brother in law, do i trust them, do i fuck, would i use the NHS, would i fuck. Obarmy care you lot are fucked

I have NEVER heard of anyone denied treatment.
You go to the emergency room, you are in.

You may be billed, but our local level 4 trauma center does NOT turn anyone away, ever.

And you will get good care.

Having said that, I am someone who has worked in both nursing homes and hospitals here and in Germany.

There is no question whatsover in my mind that any sane
person avoids hospitals if they can,

but if you need care,
AMERICAN CARE IS VASTLY SUPERIOR.

The level of stupidity here is almost off the scale.

What did they die from, if I might ask? I am willing to bet that in the United States they would have died from the same illness.. possibly sooner if they didn't have insurance or the money to pay. In addition, after passing away you would be on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical costs.

Get lost, idiot.

OP is a typical uneducated American. No sense, no intelligence, just purely uneducated.

Both my brothers are doctors and the NHS has saved tens of millions of lives. How would the average person be able to afford a £110,000 operation? Have you thought about that? No? What a surprise!

Maybe if you stopped attacking Muslims and countries who have actual health care systems you might wake up and see how your nation is literally crumbling around you.

OP is a typical uneducated American. No sense, no intelligence, just purely uneducated.

Both my brothers are doctors and the NHS has saved tens of millions of lives. How would the average person be able to afford a £110,000 operation? Have you thought about that? No? What a surprise!

Maybe if you stopped attacking Muslims and countries who have actual health care systems you might wake up and see how your nation is literally crumbling around you.

In 2011, 8,583 Americans were killed with firearms. Meanwhile in the UK, the National Health Service is killing 1,000 people a month or 12,000 a year.


We’re not talking natural or inevitable deaths, but preventable deaths that were caused by an overburdened and poorly managed health care system.


The study found that something went wrong with the care of 13 per cent of the patients who died in hospitals. An error only led to a death in 5.2 per cent of these cases, which was the equivalent to nearly 12,000 preventable deaths in hospitals in England every year.

13 percent and 5 percent of deaths are far higher numbers than anything you will find among gun owners. And here’s what that looks like.


The Office for National Statistics figures also showed that 43 people who starved to death, 287 people were recorded by doctors as being malnourished when they died in hospitals;

there were 558 cases where doctors recorded that a patient had died in a state of severe dehydration in hospitals

21,696 hospital patients and 1,100 care home residents were suffering from the blood poisoning when they died.

In July, an inquest heard that a young man who died of dehydration at a leading hospital rang 999 for police because he was so thirsty.

[link to frontpagemag.com]

one of the things i have against the brits, they have a hideous healthcare system and they know it. yet they are the same people who call us "barbaric" for not wanting the same crap here as they have there, and they are the same people who tell us "get rid of your guns."

if socialized medicine doesn't work in a little country of some 60 million, how will it work in a country of 314 million?

U.S. has second worst newborn death rate in modern world, report says.
The United States has the second worst newborn mortality rate in the developed world, according to a new report.

American babies are three times more likely to die in their first month as children born in Japan, and newborn mortality is 2.5 times higher in the United States than in Finland, Iceland or Norway, Save the Children researchers found
[link to articles.cnn.com]

Says a lot, really

Thank God us helthcare costs are dropping so fast! It'll be free soon!


Idiot.

Yep, here's the source:

[link to articles.mercola.com]

And I just looked it up and it might actually be even worse than that:

[link to www.ourcivilisation.com]

420,000 deaths a year just through errors, let alone unnecessary treatments carried out for profit.

As a Brit abroad I have to agree with you OP.

The NHS is not the worst thing ever...but it is the best of the worst.

Socialism always leads to malpractice, corruption and carelessness.

It is one of the reasons I left the UK, I cannot stand the caving in to socialism there...everything is run by the loony left and nobody has the bloody spine to say anything.
I tried and was slapped down for it, so I left.

Good riddance, anyone who has a brain is leaving the UK now - it is a sinking ship, I give it another 5-10 years for civil unrest.



Good post OP - socialism is cancer.

Great thread Davvi ! 5* !

Anything run by the government is going to be a major disaster in the first place but when it's life and death, this has to be the inevitable result.

The level of stupidity here is almost off the scale.

What did they die from, if I might ask? I am willing to bet that in the United States they would have died from the same illness.. possibly sooner if they didn't have insurance or the money to pay. In addition, after passing away you would be on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical costs.

Get lost, idiot.

Most of our "doctors" are quacks, pushing Big-Pharma drugs.

Our hospitals are cesspits of MRSA, and other horrible infections.

My advice to everyone is, have nothing to do with the "Health Services", unless you are in a life or death situation!

And no family needs to leave their home because of one family members illness?

lol, ah give it up brit, your healthcare system stinks and pointing fingers at the US is not going to change anything for you and your eventual end of life experience.

Anything run by the government is going to be a major disaster in the first place but when it's life and death, this has to be the inevitable result.

Would you rather it be run like, say, Enron?, AIG?? BP?, MCI??, Exxon, how about those privatized prison systems? All good for the people!!

i hear you and find it sad that you are driven out of your country because of the loons. i know there are a few of you good ones left, but like the right in my country we have found that common sense is no longer in charge. live well and prosper in your new land.

Cheers mate, yeah it seems the socialists and lunatics are spreading like wildfire these days...it really is hard to find somewhere to live with people who have even a modicum of common sense left.

Good to see the American spirit is still alive over there, once the USA falls I fear for the future of our civilisation - the communist Chinese will have no compunction about taking by force what they require, regardless of international rules or laws.


Fight hard against the socialists and tyrants!

God bless

Cheers mate, yeah it seems the socialists and lunatics are spreading like wildfire these days...it really is hard to find somewhere to live with people who have even a modicum of common sense left.

Good to see the American spirit is still alive over there, once the USA falls I fear for the future of our civilisation - the communist Chinese will have no compunction about taking by force what they require, regardless of international rules or laws.


Fight hard against the socialists and tyrants!

God bless