Government Health Care Kills More Brits Than Guns Kill Americans

Excerpts from an editorial I wrote for the Delaware Voice from Sept. 29. 2009. From the NewsJournal newspaper in Delaware:


I'd rather be sick in America than anywhere else



. . When Americans hear that all other industrialized nations have universal health care, we imagine that they have care like ours available to all. This is not true. Germany's free-enterprise system makes Mercedes and BMW, but their socialized health care looked like this:

As a brand-new LPN, I worked in a German nursing home. I was the ENTIRE night shift. I had more than 100 patients and no aides. I repeat: no aides. There was a registered nurse on call for emergencies. How much care do you think one body can provide for 100 patients, with dozens quite sick?
In a Wilmington, DE nursing home, I had 25 or so patients at night with 2 to 4 aides. There were RNs in the building and doctors on call around the clock.

Where would you rather have your parent?

At another German nursing home, Frau Schneider was my favorite patient. She was ancient but spry and completely alert.
She had the first grand mal seizure I had ever seen. I ran for help. The response was, " She's so old, what do you want? Let it be."
No set of vitals, no checking her care plan, no adjusting her anti-seizure drug levels.
The message was to shut the door and let it go.
. . .

Germany's universal care is the world's oldest, started by the "Iron Chancellor" Otto von Bismarck in 1883. My German nursing instructor emphasized that his motivation was military and political. Bismarck wanted healthier soldiers for Germany's armies.
People cite statistics to show how bad American health care is.
But outcome statistics don't tell much.
Utah has a 6% diabetes rate, according to White House information.
Nevada's rate is 9%. That is a huge difference.
Utah's citizens have the lowest rates of drinking and smoking in the nation.
Behavior, NOT reform, is key.

you have no idea what you are talking about, so please stop making a fool of yourself. there's a good lad...:shutit8:

wait, so your covered uncoditionally in America for ANY sickness or injury and medication is free??

What did I get wrong??

watch it folks...this ones^ not to be trusted.

wait, so your covered uncoditionally in America for ANY sickness or injury and medication is free??

What did I get wrong??

you didn't.

actually you PWNED the OP bigtime

not at all.

as i said above:

i get my health insurance from my job. and yes i get medication, if i need it, dental and eyeglasses too. i pay co payment of 20 dollars per office visit and 75 dollars for any hospital visit. fortunately all i need is a cleaning at the dentist twice a year and since i don't wear glasses all i get is an eye exam every two years.

:ytfaus:

not at all.

as i said above:

i get my health insurance from my job. and yes i get medication, if i need it, dental and eyeglasses too. i pay co payment of 20 dollars per office visit and 75 dollars for any hospital visit. fortunately all i need is a cleaning at the dentist twice a year and since i don't wear glasses all i get is an eye exam every two years.

:ytfaus:

yeah.....what about the millions of Americans who don't have jobs eh???


Healthcare for ALL is something most 1st world countries implemented AGES ago without govt. falling into finacial ruin.

serious facepalm to you.

when you got to start deleting posts from the thread, you've already lost.

if you lose your job there is this thing called COBRA which allows you to pay a small fee to keep your present health coverage. because you choose to be slaves to a state doesn't mean it is right for us.

no awipe, when you start abusing other posters on a thread i remove them regrdless of what they say. PS when you have nothing but abuse you HAVE lost.

excellent.

poppycock and horseshit.....healthcare for all is not about being a slave you dumbass...it's about looking after your brethen.

Thanks, Davvi!
Let me tell you the sequel to this editorial appearing.

My dad was gravely ill. The social workers at a local hospital were helping to plan his discharge care.

I call the social worker to return a phone message and left my name.
She called back, are you the woman that wrote that article a few months back about health care?
Not knowing what to expect, I said yes.

She told me her colleagues were in agreement with my views and they posted the article on the bulletin board in the break room.

now THAT surprised me - but it made me happy too.

My father did die shortly after this - but in a nursing home that let his family watch with him around the clock.
They provided food to us, I still feel in their debt for their care.

cool story bro.
i've seen you posting abuse at AC's in heaps of threads.
what a hypocrite!

how stupid are you? my brethren? lol yea right i already pay for my "brethren" which shows how little you understand about my country.

do you honestly think that this government does stuff for altruistic motives? duh.

no you haven't. :shutit8:

if you lose your job there is this thing called COBRA which allows you to pay a small fee to keep your present health coverage. because you choose to be slaves to a state doesn't mean it is right for us.

LOLOLOL... a small fee?

You think $600-$800 a month is a small fee to someone who just LOST THEIR JOB.

Jesus Henry Christ, stop talking.

I have NEVER heard of anyone denied treatment.
You go to the emergency room, you are in.

You may be billed, but our local level 4 trauma center does NOT turn anyone away, ever.

And you will get good care.

Having said that, I am someone who has worked in both nursing homes and hospitals here and in Germany.

There is no question whatsover in my mind that any sane
person avoids hospitals if they can,

but if you need care,
AMERICAN CARE IS VASTLY SUPERIOR.

yeah.....what about the millions of Americans who don't have jobs eh???


Healthcare for ALL is something most 1st world countries implemented AGES ago without govt. falling into finacial ruin.

serious facepalm to you.

Here is some research I did for my brother after he lost his job and required medical assistance prior to obama’s deathcare oops I meant healthcare. He never bothered to seek care before problems arose in spite of free clinics in his town thus he had several stokes and now 9 months later still hospitalized and given Medicaid.

Please do some research on religious non-profit organizations that help millions of children and people such as the Shriners? These non profit organizations blow away the metered care obamacare and metered care of socialist countries as they provide room and board for parents and significant others along with travel arrangements.

Thus your rant is mired in nonsense thus serious facepalm to you.

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beeches, i am sorry for your loss, but very happy that his last moments were surround by love and good care.

great article and good sense always makes an impression.

The level of stupidity here is almost off the scale.

What did they die from, if I might ask? I am willing to bet that in the United States they would have died from the same illness.. possibly sooner if they didn't have insurance or the money to pay. In addition, after passing away you would be on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical costs.

Get lost, idiot.

In 2011, 8,583 Americans were killed with firearms. Meanwhile in the UK, the National Health Service is killing 1,000 people a month or 12,000 a year.

Low birth weight infants are not counted against the "live birth" statistics for many countries reporting low infant mortality rates.

According to the way statistics are calculated in Canada, Germany, and Austria, a premature baby weighing <500g is not considered a living child.

But in the U.S., such very low birth weight babies are considered live births. The mortality rate of such babies - considered "unsalvageable" outside of the U.S. and therefore never alive - is extraordinarily high; up to 869 per 1,000 in the first month of life alone. This skews U.S. infant mortality statistics.