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Jesus clearly claimed to be God Almighty that is why He was crucified on the cross.



How do you crucify God Almighty and still call him Almighty, you imbecile dumb_fuck?


Jesus never claimed to be God, it was some of the religious people who claimed he was.
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REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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Jesus clearly claimed to be God Almighty that is why He was crucified on the cross.

 Quoting: No Dhimmi


How do you crucify God Almighty and still call him Almighty, you imbecile dumb_fuck?


He can do whatever He desires, you show much ignorance of the nature of the Lord.



Have you ever heard something called "Reductio ad
Absurdum"?

His desires can not contradict his ATTRIBUTES.

I am willing to give you free ELEMENTARY LOGIC class.
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The LORD had said to Moses, "Pharaoh will refuse to listen to you -- so that my wonders may be multiplied in Egypt." Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go out of his country


God "hardened Pharoah's heart", so that his "wonders may be multiplied in Egypt". In other words, he deliberately made Pharoah refuse to release the Israelites, so that he would have an excuse to show off! The murder of all the first-born sons in Egypt was a cruel, premeditated act, in which God controlled both sides of the equation just so he could demonstrate his power).
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


Again as stated in Romans, to be aware of both the goodness and the severity of God.

Also, none of these verses you bring up discount the people's encounters with Jesus, nor even more much more evidence that further supports the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31255288


I am not in anyway trying to discount the Bible because it discounts itself when God murders babies and kills the first born of Egypt when it specifically says the son will not bear the sins of the father. The Bhagavad gita and the Koran are much more reliable because they are Gods word
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


You have a double standard then - the Queeran is also full of violence

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Qur'an:8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned."

Qur'an:8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land."

Qur'an:7:3 "Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them."

Qur'an:59:2 "It was Allah who drove the [Jewish] People of the Book from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined that their strongholds would protect them against Allah. But Allah came at them from where they did not suspect, and filled their hearts with terror. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson, O men who have eyes. This is My warning...they shall taste the torment of Fire."

But of course Islam has the additional problem with Abrogation. The Queeran goes from peaceful to violent and therefore - Muslims must obey the later relavations per Abrogation - The bible goes from violent to peaceful.


Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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So, Jesus really did appear to these people and saved them from hell? Also, he appeared to doubting Thomas as well?
So what is the difference between them and all of the other 'lost sheep' that he doesn't appear to?

If he has the power to appear to people then why does he not appear to everyone so that we all get to make our own informed decision? (Please no, "god has his reasons" answers)

Wow, how lucky they are. They get chosen to be saved personally by Jesus, plus they get paid vacation around the world.

I prayed for truth. I was shown that the real events were hijacked by the "church". That the church twisted things and made people to believe in a lie.

Revelation warns of that very thing, but most people believe that this event is yet to happen. I am unsure why christians don't even consider this since revelation says it will happen.
Maybe it is their ego, they don't want to believe they have already been deceived. Maybe they are afraid to question the official story of Jesus because they are afraid of hell. Maybe it is because the official story takes no real effort to be saved.
I believe (after much prayer) that it happened while the author that pinned it was still alive.
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God is love and love is God
He who has love in him has God in Him
because God is love.

God is omnipresent he is
present everywhere
if there is hell he is present there
if not he cannot still be omnipresent.
he is present in out brain and in our atoms
simply because he must fill every presence because
he is omnipresence.

God is present in animals and plants alike
because he is omnipresent.

God is omniscient He knows and is aware of all things there is nothing he doesn't know there is no thought because everything has already been thought there is only desire.

God is omnipotent all powerful
He contains the power of both good and evil
if not then how can he be omnipotent if he doesn't have all the power.

Since God is omnipresent he is present in us and we are present in Him God is a spirit an omnipresent spirit his spirit is present in me.

Last Edited by Aleph Tav on 01/02/2013 01:24 PM
REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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Hey..aleph...shut it. Nobody gives a shit about what you think...understand?
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lol...I don't know how Jesus, Son of God, forgives know-it-all shit for brains like yourself.
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The LORD had said to Moses, "Pharaoh will refuse to listen to you -- so that my wonders may be multiplied in Egypt." Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go out of his country


God "hardened Pharoah's heart", so that his "wonders may be multiplied in Egypt". In other words, he deliberately made Pharoah refuse to release the Israelites, so that he would have an excuse to show off! The murder of all the first-born sons in Egypt was a cruel, premeditated act, in which God controlled both sides of the equation just so he could demonstrate his power).
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


Again as stated in Romans, to be aware of both the goodness and the severity of God.

Also, none of these verses you bring up discount the people's encounters with Jesus, nor even more much more evidence that further supports the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31255288


I am not in anyway trying to discount the Bible because it discounts itself when God murders babies and kills the first born of Egypt when it specifically says the son will not bear the sins of the father. The Bhagavad gita and the Koran are much more reliable because they are Gods word
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


You have a double standard then - the Queeran is also full of violence

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Qur'an:8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned."

Qur'an:8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land."

Qur'an:7:3 "Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them."

Qur'an:59:2 "It was Allah who drove the [Jewish] People of the Book from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined that their strongholds would protect them against Allah. But Allah came at them from where they did not suspect, and filled their hearts with terror. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson, O men who have eyes. This is My warning...they shall taste the torment of Fire."

But of course Islam has the additional problem with Abrogation. The Queeran goes from peaceful to violent and therefore - Muslims must obey the later relavations per Abrogation - The bible goes from violent to peaceful.


 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Peaceful to violence
Violence to peaceful

Vice Versa
Versa Vice
REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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Hey..aleph...shut it. Nobody gives a shit about what you think...understand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31350069


Thank you you are a true example of Christ like behavior.
REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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I am like God, and God like me
I am as large as God, he is as small as I
He cannot above me, nor I beneath him be.

SILESIUS, 17th CENTURY
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Again as stated in Romans, to be aware of both the goodness and the severity of God.

Also, none of these verses you bring up discount the people's encounters with Jesus, nor even more much more evidence that further supports the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31255288


I am not in anyway trying to discount the Bible because it discounts itself when God murders babies and kills the first born of Egypt when it specifically says the son will not bear the sins of the father. The Bhagavad gita and the Koran are much more reliable because they are Gods word
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


You have a double standard then - the Queeran is also full of violence

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Qur'an:8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned."

Qur'an:8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land."

Qur'an:7:3 "Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them."

Qur'an:59:2 "It was Allah who drove the [Jewish] People of the Book from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined that their strongholds would protect them against Allah. But Allah came at them from where they did not suspect, and filled their hearts with terror. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson, O men who have eyes. This is My warning...they shall taste the torment of Fire."

But of course Islam has the additional problem with Abrogation. The Queeran goes from peaceful to violent and therefore - Muslims must obey the later relavations per Abrogation - The bible goes from violent to peaceful.


 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Peaceful to violence
Violence to peaceful

Vice Versa
Versa Vice
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


If that is your logic you have lost any argument here.
Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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All these visitations make you wonder if someone is testing a new form of dual hologram with sound using that technology that makes the bones vibrate.

Sounds like it.

Oh well, it's always something.
"The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie—
deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent,
persuasive, and unrealistic. Belief in myths allows the
comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
John Fitzgerald Kennedy (1917–1963)
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God is love and love is God
He who has love in him has God in Him
because God is love.

God is omnipresent he is
present everywhere
if there is hell he is present there
if not he cannot still be omnipresent.
he is present in out brain and in our atoms
simply because he must fill every presence because
he is omnipresence.

God is present in animals and plants alike
because he is omnipresent.

God is omniscient He knows and is aware of all things there is nothing he doesn't know there is no thought because everything has already been thought there is only desire.

God is omnipotent all powerful
He contains the power of both good and evil
if not then how can he be omnipotent if he doesn't have all the power.

Since God is omnipresent he is present in us and we are present in Him.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


So why don't you follow your own heart, instead of some book that speaks of truth & lies.

At least when you follow your heart you learn about your being, your mission, your goal in life.

You don't need the book to believe in yourself, or to believe in God. The Book is a deterrent of knowing oneself, the truth is in the heart, that's all you need to know.
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I am not in anyway trying to discount the Bible because it discounts itself when God murders babies and kills the first born of Egypt when it specifically says the son will not bear the sins of the father. The Bhagavad gita and the Koran are much more reliable because they are Gods word
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


You have a double standard then - the Queeran is also full of violence

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Qur'an:8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned."

Qur'an:8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land."

Qur'an:7:3 "Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them."

Qur'an:59:2 "It was Allah who drove the [Jewish] People of the Book from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined that their strongholds would protect them against Allah. But Allah came at them from where they did not suspect, and filled their hearts with terror. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson, O men who have eyes. This is My warning...they shall taste the torment of Fire."

But of course Islam has the additional problem with Abrogation. The Queeran goes from peaceful to violent and therefore - Muslims must obey the later relavations per Abrogation - The bible goes from violent to peaceful.


 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Peaceful to violence
Violence to peaceful

Vice Versa
Versa Vice
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


If that is your logic you have lost any argument here.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


I was just showing you your own logic

You say the Bible went from violent to peaceful I feel sorry for those poor innocent Egyptian babies that died from murder from their supposed creator I feel sorry for the mothers who had to deal with it and there fathers.
REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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God is love and love is God
He who has love in him has God in Him
because God is love.

God is omnipresent he is
present everywhere
if there is hell he is present there
if not he cannot still be omnipresent.
he is present in out brain and in our atoms
simply because he must fill every presence because
he is omnipresence.

God is present in animals and plants alike
because he is omnipresent.

God is omniscient He knows and is aware of all things there is nothing he doesn't know there is no thought because everything has already been thought there is only desire.

God is omnipotent all powerful
He contains the power of both good and evil
if not then how can he be omnipotent if he doesn't have all the power.

Since God is omnipresent he is present in us and we are present in Him.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


So why don't you follow your own heart, instead of some book that speaks of truth & lies.

At least when you follow your heart you learn about your being, your mission, your goal in life.

You don't need the book to believe in yourself, or to believe in God. The Book is a deterrent of knowing oneself, the truth is in the heart, that's all you need to know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


I will try
REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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I think that angel that was kicking the gay Chinese guy around needs to come kick aleph's ass. Slap him across the room a few times.
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God is love and love is God
He who has love in him has God in Him
because God is love.

God is omnipresent he is
present everywhere
if there is hell he is present there
if not he cannot still be omnipresent.
he is present in out brain and in our atoms
simply because he must fill every presence because
he is omnipresence.

God is present in animals and plants alike
because he is omnipresent.

God is omniscient He knows and is aware of all things there is nothing he doesn't know there is no thought because everything has already been thought there is only desire.

God is omnipotent all powerful
He contains the power of both good and evil
if not then how can he be omnipotent if he doesn't have all the power.

Since God is omnipresent he is present in us and we are present in Him.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


So why don't you follow your own heart, instead of some book that speaks of truth & lies.

At least when you follow your heart you learn about your being, your mission, your goal in life.

You don't need the book to believe in yourself, or to believe in God. The Book is a deterrent of knowing oneself, the truth is in the heart, that's all you need to know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


I will try
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


I have to warn you that you may, fall in love with it, it's truly magical.
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You have a double standard then - the Queeran is also full of violence

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Qur'an:8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned."

Qur'an:8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land."

Qur'an:7:3 "Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them."

Qur'an:59:2 "It was Allah who drove the [Jewish] People of the Book from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined that their strongholds would protect them against Allah. But Allah came at them from where they did not suspect, and filled their hearts with terror. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson, O men who have eyes. This is My warning...they shall taste the torment of Fire."

But of course Islam has the additional problem with Abrogation. The Queeran goes from peaceful to violent and therefore - Muslims must obey the later relavations per Abrogation - The bible goes from violent to peaceful.


 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Peaceful to violence
Violence to peaceful

Vice Versa
Versa Vice
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


If that is your logic you have lost any argument here.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


I was just showing you your own logic

You say the Bible went from violent to peaceful I feel sorry for those poor innocent Egyptian babies that died from murder from their supposed creator I feel sorry for the mothers who had to deal with it and there fathers.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


You don't acknowledge the Islamic doctrine of Abrogation? You claimed (in this thread) the Queeran was superior to the Bible - but you are ignorant of the teachings of the Queeran and of Abrogation.
Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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The Queeran in pracatice

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Imam Musri Deceives the Audience

Over the years we at The United West have attended scores of Interfaith dialogues. This video will review how Imam Musri like many before him say how the doctrine and theology of Islam teaches there is pluralism/equality between Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.

The majority of Interfaith dialogues follow this script. A Christian, Muslim, and Jew will each address an audience giving their religions teachings. The objective is to present the three faiths side by side and let the audience come to their own conclusions.

The representatives of each faith are not there to interact, argue, or defend their positions, in most cases.

Many believe that academic debate would be “unhelpful” in building bridges of trust, friendship, and unity between the 3 Abrahamic faith doctrines. The United West believes that talking, dialogue, and debate are important but not the end all for peace and mutual respect or pluralism.

In this video we expose Imam Musri, a Sunni Muslim, telling the audience lies abut Islam’s tolerance towards the “others” Christians and Jews as sourced from the Qur’an, Hadith, and Sira(life of Mohammed). I realize “lies” is a strong word but the videos prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Imam Musri’s words are deceptive. I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.

These lies are exposed where in March of 2012 the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia called for the destruction of all the Churches in the region. It is inconceivable a Sunni Imam of Mr. Musri’s importance was not aware what the most powerful Sunni Sheikh said – plus if you google it there are over 30 pages of links and stories. This was big news back in March of 2012

From there we used current “MIddle East” video footage of Christian houses of worship being attacked in Muslim Lands for the crime of being Christian. We learned in Egypt the government stopped the building of a new church – illustrating that Islam and State are one in the same.

From there we show video of Christians in America being arrested in 2010 and the escalation of violence in 2012 exposing how Shariah blasphemy laws are being practiced here in America to silence the voice of the “others”. Western Free Speech and Shariah Blasphemy Laws are not compatible.

Next we show Sunni Muslim Al-Qaeda and Free Syrian Army Muslims burning down a Shia Muslim Mosque. Muslim on Muslim violence and the destruction of “Muslim houses of worship” further contradicts Imam Musri’s words at this Interfaith Dialogue.

These examples contradict the message Imam Musri was articulating to the audience who would otherwise be pacified by Imam Musri’s message of equality between the faiths. Imam Musri is telling the non-Muslim audience exactly what they want to hear.

This video exposes the danger of Interfaith dialogue when religious doctrine goes unchallenged and the audience only gets half the truth.



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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Peaceful to violence
Violence to peaceful

Vice Versa
Versa Vice
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


If that is your logic you have lost any argument here.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


I was just showing you your own logic

You say the Bible went from violent to peaceful I feel sorry for those poor innocent Egyptian babies that died from murder from their supposed creator I feel sorry for the mothers who had to deal with it and there fathers.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


You don't acknowledge the Islamic doctrine of Abrogation? You claimed (in this thread) the Queeran was superior to the Bible - but you are ignorant of the teachings of the Queeran and of Abrogation.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


I am a philosopher at heart and I will continue to seek until I find I will not rest whether it be the Bible the Koran the Bhagavad gita or anything I will continue to seek just as the lion seeks its prey until it is satisfied. So far in Christianity all I see is an hypocritical organization.

I do believe in God and I do believe he is love
I do believe God is a spirit and if God is love
then so are we if we have God because He is spirit
we have love we have the spirit of the creator.If not then what have we I say nothing.
REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
Aleph Tav

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God is love and love is God
He who has love in him has God in Him
because God is love.

God is omnipresent he is
present everywhere
if there is hell he is present there
if not he cannot still be omnipresent.
he is present in out brain and in our atoms
simply because he must fill every presence because
he is omnipresence.

God is present in animals and plants alike
because he is omnipresent.

God is omniscient He knows and is aware of all things there is nothing he doesn't know there is no thought because everything has already been thought there is only desire.

God is omnipotent all powerful
He contains the power of both good and evil
if not then how can he be omnipotent if he doesn't have all the power.

Since God is omnipresent he is present in us and we are present in Him God is a spirit an omnipresent spirit his spirit is present in me.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav

REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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From a former Muslim on another thread I posted

You are most certain of your research which is verifiable lending you sir a great deal of credibility. I enjoy your alarms to the public regarding the very cunning ways the slippery serpent Islam deals with non muslims. There LIE of Mohammed being a prophet of GOD and God's FINAL speaker is spreading virally now that The Mahdi OBAMA is in the place he ought not be. No worries though, Mr. mahdi will be faced with dealing with The Lion, The Prince of Peace very soon!bumpyoda
 Quoting: WELL INFORMED FORMER MUSLIM 26590937

Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Peaceful to violence
Violence to peaceful

Vice Versa
Versa Vice
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


If that is your logic you have lost any argument here.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


I was just showing you your own logic

You say the Bible went from violent to peaceful I feel sorry for those poor innocent Egyptian babies that died from murder from their supposed creator I feel sorry for the mothers who had to deal with it and there fathers.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


You don't acknowledge the Islamic doctrine of Abrogation? You claimed (in this thread) the Queeran was superior to the Bible - but you are ignorant of the teachings of the Queeran and of Abrogation.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Here's a good correlation study, that gives evidence that the violent verses at the end of the Quran, do indeed abrogate, and do away with the early peaceful verses.

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It was discovered that the more devout a Muslim becomes, the more violent tendencies he displays.

The opposite is true with Christians, the more devout they become, the more peaceful tendencies are displayed.
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All I know is I know nothing and nothing that I know but nothing knows me and will continue to seek out the truth.

Last Edited by Aleph Tav on 01/02/2013 01:48 PM
REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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If that is your logic you have lost any argument here.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


I was just showing you your own logic

You say the Bible went from violent to peaceful I feel sorry for those poor innocent Egyptian babies that died from murder from their supposed creator I feel sorry for the mothers who had to deal with it and there fathers.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


You don't acknowledge the Islamic doctrine of Abrogation? You claimed (in this thread) the Queeran was superior to the Bible - but you are ignorant of the teachings of the Queeran and of Abrogation.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


I am a philosopher at heart and I will continue to seek until I find I will not rest whether it be the Bible the Koran the Bhagavad gita or anything I will continue to seek just as the lion seeks its prey until it is satisfied. So far in Christianity all I see is an hypocritical organization.

I do believe in God and I do believe he is love
I do believe God is a spirit and if God is love
then so are we if we have God because He is spirit
we have love we have the spirit of the creator.If not then what have we I say nothing.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav





Jesus also came to FREE us of "man made" religious confines. Therefore, by searching INSIDE a "man made" religion, YOU shall NEVER find the answers!

(just sayin.....)hf
~~Much Peace, Love, and Light~~Always
Concerning life and death: I embrace both equally!
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I was just showing you your own logic

You say the Bible went from violent to peaceful I feel sorry for those poor innocent Egyptian babies that died from murder from their supposed creator I feel sorry for the mothers who had to deal with it and there fathers.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


You don't acknowledge the Islamic doctrine of Abrogation? You claimed (in this thread) the Queeran was superior to the Bible - but you are ignorant of the teachings of the Queeran and of Abrogation.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


I am a philosopher at heart and I will continue to seek until I find I will not rest whether it be the Bible the Koran the Bhagavad gita or anything I will continue to seek just as the lion seeks its prey until it is satisfied. So far in Christianity all I see is an hypocritical organization.

I do believe in God and I do believe he is love
I do believe God is a spirit and if God is love
then so are we if we have God because He is spirit
we have love we have the spirit of the creator.If not then what have we I say nothing.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav





Jesus also came to FREE us of "man made" religious confines. Therefore, by searching INSIDE a "man made" religion, YOU shall NEVER find the answers!

(just sayin.....)hf
 Quoting: WishinForTheMission


Last Edited by Aleph Tav on 01/02/2013 02:01 PM
REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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You don't acknowledge the Islamic doctrine of Abrogation? You claimed (in this thread) the Queeran was superior to the Bible - but you are ignorant of the teachings of the Queeran and of Abrogation.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


I am a philosopher at heart and I will continue to seek until I find I will not rest whether it be the Bible the Koran the Bhagavad gita or anything I will continue to seek just as the lion seeks its prey until it is satisfied. So far in Christianity all I see is an hypocritical organization.

I do believe in God and I do believe he is love
I do believe God is a spirit and if God is love
then so are we if we have God because He is spirit
we have love we have the spirit of the creator.If not then what have we I say nothing.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav





Jesus also came to FREE us of "man made" religious confines. Therefore, by searching INSIDE a "man made" religion, YOU shall NEVER find the answers!

(just sayin.....)hf
 Quoting: WishinForTheMission


Can you lead me to Him I want to know Him
 Quoting: Aleph Tav




My email is Brenbren17@yahoo.com

Much Peace, Love, and Light~~~Alwayshugs
~~Much Peace, Love, and Light~~Always
Concerning life and death: I embrace both equally!
Aleph Tav

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I am a philosopher at heart and I will continue to seek until I find I will not rest whether it be the Bible the Koran the Bhagavad gita or anything I will continue to seek just as the lion seeks its prey until it is satisfied. So far in Christianity all I see is an hypocritical organization.

I do believe in God and I do believe he is love
I do believe God is a spirit and if God is love
then so are we if we have God because He is spirit
we have love we have the spirit of the creator.If not then what have we I say nothing.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav





Jesus also came to FREE us of "man made" religious confines. Therefore, by searching INSIDE a "man made" religion, YOU shall NEVER find the answers!

(just sayin.....)hf
 Quoting: WishinForTheMission


Can you lead me to Him I want to know Him
 Quoting: Aleph Tav




My email is Brenbren17@yahoo.com

Much Peace, Love, and Light~~~Alwayshugs
 Quoting: WishinForTheMission


Last Edited by Aleph Tav on 01/02/2013 02:02 PM
REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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