Jesus appears in room of a former Hindu

Curious who's account was it?

Third Heaven?

Interesting, I personally think that heaven relates to what consciousness we are currently living in.

Some say there are 7 consciousness of the brain, the number of the father. Some say there are 11 consciousness, the number of infinity.

I believe on currently, on Earth there are 3 consciousness, one with oneself, one with Nature & one with the Universe.

The one with the Universe, is where we live Heaven on Earth, physically, the King of our Heavenly bodies.

After we graduate, from Earth. I believe we continue our rise up to be an Angel, then to be an Arch Angel and so on. Who knows? we may be able to get our own Star.

That's what I like to think anyway, whether its, false or not.

If this was so, could God then use these familiar symbolisms (unique to a person), in order to lead them to Christianity?

Interesting account, would love to see the link.

OP is this the God you serve:

Thread: Atrocities committed and commanded by the Old testament God

Remember what the Bible states, about God, that he's also severe.

Romans 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in his goodness: otherwise you also shall be cut off.

Also it's funny, how you a Muslim, would bring this up. Let's look at Muhammad's life.

Muhammad vs Jesus

Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)

Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)

"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)

"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)

Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)

Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)

"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)

Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)

Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)

Neither owned nor traded slaves.

Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)

Beheaded no one.

Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)

Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)

"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)

"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)

Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)

Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)

Was celibate.

Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)

Did not have sex with children.

Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)

Never harmed a woman.

"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)

"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)

Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )

Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.

Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)

Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.

Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)

Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.

Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)

"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)

Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)

Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)

"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)

Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)

Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)

Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)

Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)

Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)

Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)

Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.

Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.

Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)

Was crucified himself.

According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)

According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)

It is interesting indeed. Of course God can use familiar symbolisms unique to a person in order to lead them to Christianity, or to Islam, or to ..... you name it, to finally lead one to the experience the person is in need of, to grow, to mature etc.

I'd love to find the link of this particular story i speak about, but can't find it right now. It was around 1999 when i've read that story on the net, chances are that it's still available..... :)

We'll see.......

OP I didn't want to do this but you made me do it.

If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.


If your wife touches your private parts during a public dispute, you must cut off her hand. Talk about a victimless crime;


I lift my hand to heaven and declare: As surely as I live forever, when I sharpen my flashing sword and my hand grasps it in judgment, I will take vengeance on my adversaries and repay those who hate me. I will make my arrows drunk with blood, while my sword devours flesh: the blood of the slain and the captives, the heads of the enemy leaders."


God proudly boasts of his own bloodlust


When Israel had finished killing all the men of Ai in the fields and in the desert where they had chased them, and when every one of them had been put to the sword, all the Israelites returned to Ai and killed those who were in it. Twelve thousand men and women fell that day--all the people of Ai.

As usual, Joshua indiscriminately kills soldiers and civilians alike, women and children, all the people in the entire city

He did what was right in the eyes of the LORD, just as his father Amaziah had done. The high places, however, were not removed; the people continued to offer sacrifices and burn incense there. The LORD afflicted the king with leprosy until the day he died.


More Old Testament religious tolerance: King Azariah is afflicted with leprosy not because he did anything wrong, but because he failed to destroy the "high places" of the idol-worshippers. In other words, he was slowly killed for not being intolerant enough.

When they first lived there, they did not worship the LORD; so he sent lions among them and they killed some of the people.

As usual, God kills people for not worshipping him


That night the angel of the LORD went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand men in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning--there were all the dead bodies!

God kills 185,000 Assyrians in order to keep them from one of his "holy" places

I will proclaim the decree of the LORD: He said to me, "You are my Son; today I have become your Father. Ask of me, and I will make the nations your inheritance, the ends of the earth your possession. You will rule them with an iron scepter; you will dash them to pieces like pottery."


More militaristic bragging. God promises to bend the nations of the Earth to the will of a loyal follower, and to help him "dash them to pieces


The LORD examines the righteous, but the wicked and those who love violence his soul hates. On the wicked he will rain fiery coals and burning sulfur; a scorching wind will be their lot.


God promises to mercilessly punish the "wicked" and "those who love violence" (interesting that he describes them as two separate groups). Of course, he defines "wicked" in a rather curious way, as the term apparently included the innocent babies of Sodom and Gomorrah and countless other blameless children throughout the Old Testament. Moreover, it is rather hypocritical of him to hate those who love violence, since he loves violence himself

Consider this, you who forget God, or I will tear you to pieces, with none to rescue:

God reminds us that if we forget him, he will tear us to pieces such a loving merciful God

I guess, you're going to completely ignore everything that Jesus instructed us in the new testament.

Regardless, thanks for sharing that.

This goes out to ALL the doubters and fools that don't believe any of the witnesses that have had experiences with God or Jesus Christ. You have demonic control over you. Ask God to open your eyes and you will see! In the name of Jesus I ask that at least one of you will accept God today! I want to see ALL of you doubters in heaven. Don't fall for the biggest NWO lie of all when they tell you there is no God! Don't be a fool! The Devil is a LIAR! These people are telling the truth! I have seen God cast a demon out of my home when I called out to Jesus! You can call out to Jesus Christ anytime and if you really mean it and confess your sins, YOU WILL feel an energy come into your body! I promise you that if you get real with God and tell him you don't have the answers and to show you that he's real, you will feel his power in your life and cry like a baby! Do it and mean it and you will see that I'm telling the truth!


Every Knee Will Bow

Every Tongue Confess

God is the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords!

Praise God and Praise ALL of you on GLP that are spreading the truth about God! You are special people and it's an honor to serve with you!

Watch this video!

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According to Christian doctrine Jesus is God so what is said in the Old Testament is technically what Jesus said also because the father will not contradict the son.

The LORD listened to Israel's plea and gave the Canaanites over to them. They completely destroyed them and their towns; so the place was named Hormah.

(With God's blessing and assistance, the Israelites murder the Canaanites "completely", presumably meaning the usual slaughter of "young and old, women and children".)



they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, "Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the desert? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!" Then the LORD sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died.

The Israelites engage in "sexual immorality" and worship Baal, so God sends them a plague and instructs them to start killing one another. For some reason, he is pleased when Phinehas murders an Israelite and a Midianite woman who were bold enough to come before the others, so he stops the plague. Again, victimless crimes are punishable by death


If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer ... That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God.

Your brother, your children, your wife, or your closest friend must be killed if they commit the victimless crime of suggesting religious exploration

How can God be sever & love every one at the same time?.

I thought God was all about love & forgiveness. Maybe it's Mother Nature that dong it's punishing for God, since nature is that of duality, not God. Nature is about tough love, who punishes the sinners of The Fathers rules.

Other wise good camparison

He struck down the firstborn of Egypt, the firstborn of men and animals. He sent his signs and wonders into your midst, O Egypt, against Pharaoh and all his servants. He struck down many nations and killed mighty kings.


More militaristic jingoism, including praise for the act of murdering the little babies of Egypt


By the wrath of the LORD Almighty the land will be scorched and the people will be fuel for the fire; no one will spare his brother. On the right they will devour, but still be hungry; on the left they will eat, but not be satisfied. Each will feed on the flesh of his own offspring.


(More "angry God" stuff. This time, he'll burn heathens with fire and make them eat their own children)

Here is the God of the Bible for you

He struck down the firstborn of Egypt, the firstborn of men and animals. He sent his signs and wonders into your midst, O Egypt, against Pharaoh and all his servants. He struck down many nations and killed mighty kings.


More militaristic jingoism, including praise for the act of murdering the little babies of Egypt


By the wrath of the LORD Almighty the land will be scorched and the people will be fuel for the fire; no one will spare his brother. On the right they will devour, but still be hungry; on the left they will eat, but not be satisfied. Each will feed on the flesh of his own offspring.


(More "angry God" stuff. This time, he'll burn heathens with fire and make them eat their own children)

Wow! You sure make it sound like God is a tyrant. God loves everybody as we are his children, not to slaughter each other. It's the belief that one has leads to slaughter not God?

Hebrews 8:13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

How can God be sever & love every one at the same time?

I would say think of it as a parent, who loves you. But also may severely discipline you if you do wrong.

WTF, is wrong with you people? What are you fear mongrels?

God doesn't create fear, we do. He is all about love, what we do, we do unto ourselves not God.

If people Kill woman & children, they are killing themselves, not God.

This is a near death experience but what do you think of it none the less?

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To the contrary:

As they fled before Israel on the road down from Beth Horon to Azekah, the LORD hurled large hailstones down on them from the sky, and more of them died from the hailstones than were killed by the swords of the Israelites. On the day the LORD gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the LORD in the presence of Israel: "O sun, stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon."

So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day. There has never been a day like it before or since, a day when the LORD listened to a man. Surely the LORD was fighting for Israel!


A wonderful crazy-combo. God himself aids in the Israelite war effort by killing the Amorites with huge hailstones, thus putting to rest any apologist notions that the Israelites' atrocities went against his wishes. Then we enter the land of bizarre astrophysics, in which the Sun and the Moon "stopped in the middle of the sky" until Israel destroyed its enemies

God doesn't discipline you, that's Mothers job, what you give out to this world, you shall receive it back, its a mirror effect on this world not the Universe. God is singularity, while Mother Earth is Duality.

God punishes, lol We punish ourselves by the wrong deeds we do.

This ^^^

To the contrary:God is apart of it to

As they fled before Israel on the road down from Beth Horon to Azekah, the LORD hurled large hailstones down on them from the sky, and more of them died from the hailstones than were killed by the swords of the Israelites. On the day the LORD gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the LORD in the presence of Israel: "O sun, stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon."

So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day. There has never been a day like it before or since, a day when the LORD listened to a man. Surely the LORD was fighting for Israel!


A wonderful crazy-combo. God himself aids in the Israelite war effort by killing the Amorites with huge hailstones, thus putting to rest any apologist notions that the Israelites' atrocities went against his wishes. Then we enter the land of bizarre astrophysics, in which the Sun and the Moon "stopped in the middle of the sky" until Israel destroyed its enemies.

Consider this, you who forget God, or I will tear you to pieces, with none to rescue:

God reminds us that if we forget him, he will tear us to pieces.
Doesn't sound to loving to me if I were a Christian I wouldn't dear to leave Christianity knowing that God will tear me to pieces

lol, God doesn't have any hailstones, but Mother does, oh wait! you don't believe in the Spirit of this planet. The Mother is Gods enforcer, as she is the Punisher & the Purifier.

THIS^^^^^^^

THAT was a good one... any chance of an encore performance?

God himself aids in the Israelite war effort by killing the Amorites with huge hailstones, thus putting to rest any apologist notions that the Israelites' atrocities went against his wishes. Then we enter the land of bizarre astrophysics, in which the Sun and the Moon "stopped in the middle of the sky" until Israel destroyed its enemies


Evidence of the supernatural.
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