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Who says we are? Isn't your conscience always in the same place? Like I said with the one experiment the two particles were connected even through space. Hell look at the fourth dimension it exists inside of the space of two other dimensions what we would see as a wall it sees as a window. If that doesn't scream illusion, then what do you define as an illusion?
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No, we are actually whipping around in space on giant rock... correct?
Quoting: pi

That is a matter of interpretation. How do you know that space/time itself is moving around us? We know all objects in space/time get farther apart unless they are contained in a box, so much so that it even counter acts gravity. To say that you are moving is saying that you are the constant and not distance. If distance isn't a constant then how can you measure movement with something that is based on perspective?
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Who says we are? Isn't your conscience always in the same place? Like I said with the one experiment the two particles were connected even through space. Hell look at the fourth dimension it exists inside of the space of two other dimensions what we would see as a wall it sees as a window. If that doesn't scream illusion, then what do you define as an illusion?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

No, we are actually whipping around in space on giant rock... correct?
Quoting: pi

That is a matter of interpretation. How do you know that space/time itself *isn't moving around us? We know all objects in space/time get farther apart unless they are contained in a box, so much so that it even counter acts gravity. To say that you are moving is saying that you are the constant and not distance. If distance isn't a constant then how can you measure movement with something that is based on perspective?
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Who says we are? Isn't your conscience always in the same place? Like I said with the one experiment the two particles were connected even through space. Hell look at the fourth dimension it exists inside of the space of two other dimensions what we would see as a wall it sees as a window. If that doesn't scream illusion, then what do you define as an illusion?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

No, we are actually whipping around in space on giant rock... correct?
Quoting: pi

That is a matter of interpretation. How do you know that space/time itself is moving around us? We know all objects in space/time get farther apart unless they are contained in a box, so much so that it even counter acts gravity. To say that you are moving is saying that you are the constant and not distance. If distance isn't a constant then how can you measure movement with something that is based on perspective?
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...

So where can I find a box in nature?
...
....

"Yea, though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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Who says we are? Isn't your conscience always in the same place? Like I said with the one experiment the two particles were connected even through space. Hell look at the fourth dimension it exists inside of the space of two other dimensions what we would see as a wall it sees as a window. If that doesn't scream illusion, then what do you define as an illusion?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

No, we are actually whipping around in space on giant rock... correct?
Quoting: pi

That is a matter of interpretation. How do you know that space/time itself is moving around us? We know all objects in space/time get farther apart unless they are contained in a box, so much so that it even counter acts gravity. To say that you are moving is saying that you are the constant and not distance. If distance isn't a constant then how can you measure movement with something that is based on perspective?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

...

So where can I find a box in nature?
Quoting: pi

A cave. Apart from that a wormhole. Which a wormhole proves I'm right and there is no distance that it is all just an illusion.
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So...

:)
Quoting: pi

motivated emotional transfer (motion) of information (energy)
Quoting: aether

I like the way you think. Very much so!

So...

What decides where emotion goes?
Quoting: pi

scale/velocity

our self aware environment (universe) possess motive

generally we are translating motive as:

the structure of our universe forces eternity to function eternally

thus we (slower self awareness within faster self awareness) are discovering the motive of all that is not us (environment/universe)

For context, an attosecond is to a second what a second is to about 31.71 billion years, or twice the age of the universe
Quoting: observation

Last Edited by aether on 01/02/2013 08:35 AM
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No, we are actually whipping around in space on giant rock... correct?
Quoting: pi

That is a matter of interpretation. How do you know that space/time itself is moving around us? We know all objects in space/time get farther apart unless they are contained in a box, so much so that it even counter acts gravity. To say that you are moving is saying that you are the constant and not distance. If distance isn't a constant then how can you measure movement with something that is based on perspective?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

...

So where can I find a box in nature?
Quoting: pi

A cave. Apart from that a wormhole. Which a wormhole proves I'm right and there is no distance that it is all just an illusion.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

...

?

Can you point me to a wormhole then?
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....

"Yea, though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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No, we are actually whipping around in space on giant rock... correct?
Quoting: pi

That is a matter of interpretation. How do you know that space/time itself is moving around us? We know all objects in space/time get farther apart unless they are contained in a box, so much so that it even counter acts gravity. To say that you are moving is saying that you are the constant and not distance. If distance isn't a constant then how can you measure movement with something that is based on perspective?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

...

So where can I find a box in nature?
Quoting: pi

A cave. Apart from that a wormhole. Which a wormhole proves I'm right and there is no distance that it is all just an illusion.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

Ah I just remembered there was a group of Lumberjacks that when cutting down trees found in many different trees living animals such as turtles, birds, frogs, and other small animals. The weird part is they were found in perfectly formed spheres with on entrance or exit holes. That is a box in nature also that is proof there is no space. How could they go through space and end up there if there wasn't a window so to speak to these two points?
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I like the way you think. Very much so!

So...

What decides where emotion goes?
Quoting: pi

scale/velocity

our self aware environment (universe) possess motive

generally we are translating motive as:

the structure of our universe forces eternity to function eternally

thus we (slower self awareness within faster self awareness) are discovering the motive of all that is not us (environment/universe)

For context, an attosecond is to a second what a second is to about 31.71 billion years, or twice the age of the universe
Quoting: observation

Quoting: aether

I think we are talking about the same thing now, but that is not the description I'd personally employ.

It is almost as if we are approaching the issue from opposite sides, that align in the middle... yes? :)

Anyways... I think I have a one-word concept to define zero, the void, etc...
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....

"Yea, though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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That is a matter of interpretation. How do you know that space/time itself is moving around us? We know all objects in space/time get farther apart unless they are contained in a box, so much so that it even counter acts gravity. To say that you are moving is saying that you are the constant and not distance. If distance isn't a constant then how can you measure movement with something that is based on perspective?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

...

So where can I find a box in nature?
Quoting: pi

A cave. Apart from that a wormhole. Which a wormhole proves I'm right and there is no distance that it is all just an illusion.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

Ah I just remembered there was a group of Lumberjacks that when cutting down trees found in many different trees living animals such as turtles, birds, frogs, and other small animals. The weird part is they were found in perfectly formed spheres with on entrance or exit holes. That is a box in nature also that is proof there is no space. How could they go through space and end up there if there wasn't a window so to speak to these two points?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

That sounds like a tall tale...

...
....

"Yea, though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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I like the way you think. Very much so!

So...

What decides where emotion goes?
Quoting: pi

scale/velocity

our self aware environment (universe) possess motive

generally we are translating motive as:

the structure of our universe forces eternity to function eternally

thus we (slower self awareness within faster self awareness) are discovering the motive of all that is not us (environment/universe)

For context, an attosecond is to a second what a second is to about 31.71 billion years, or twice the age of the universe
Quoting: observation

Quoting: aether

I think we are talking about the same thing now, but that is not the description I'd personally employ.

It is almost as if we are approaching the issue from opposite sides, that align in the middle... yes? :)

Anyways... I think I have a one-word concept to define zero, the void, etc...
Quoting: pi

true
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That is a matter of interpretation. How do you know that space/time itself is moving around us? We know all objects in space/time get farther apart unless they are contained in a box, so much so that it even counter acts gravity. To say that you are moving is saying that you are the constant and not distance. If distance isn't a constant then how can you measure movement with something that is based on perspective?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

...

So where can I find a box in nature?
Quoting: pi

A cave. Apart from that a wormhole. Which a wormhole proves I'm right and there is no distance that it is all just an illusion.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

...

?

Can you point me to a wormhole then?
Quoting: pi

No but I can also prove that there is no space/time by using Mr. Stephen Hawking and Mr. Albert Einstein. Gravitational mass effects space/time so much that an object traveling faster than the another object with the same shape and mass will experience time slower than the slower object. That is proven fact. Even if you were to fly around our Sun at the same speed the Earth travels your perception of time will be slower than ours and you will be at a different point in space/time even if you traveled the same distance. How can two objects that travel the same distance reach different points in the same amount of time?
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So where can I find a box in nature?
Quoting: pi

A cave. Apart from that a wormhole. Which a wormhole proves I'm right and there is no distance that it is all just an illusion.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

Ah I just remembered there was a group of Lumberjacks that when cutting down trees found in many different trees living animals such as turtles, birds, frogs, and other small animals. The weird part is they were found in perfectly formed spheres with on entrance or exit holes. That is a box in nature also that is proof there is no space. How could they go through space and end up there if there wasn't a window so to speak to these two points?
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That sounds like a tall tale...

Quoting: pi

So does getting something from nothing.
There are many reports of this in some cases animals were found alive in stone. True story.
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So where can I find a box in nature?
Quoting: pi

A cave. Apart from that a wormhole. Which a wormhole proves I'm right and there is no distance that it is all just an illusion.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900086

Ah I just remembered there was a group of Lumberjacks that when cutting down trees found in many different trees living animals such as turtles, birds, frogs, and other small animals. The weird part is they were found in perfectly formed spheres with on entrance or exit holes. That is a box in nature also that is proof there is no space. How could they go through space and end up there if there wasn't a window so to speak to these two points?
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That sounds like a tall tale...

Quoting: pi

Here is a Picture of one instance if this helps. [link to www.google.com]
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...

"I bow my head and stare at the floor.

I am in a somber mood; this is a sorrow cig.

I take a few drags, and I begin to notice...

An almost... 'presence', building, in the room
."

...
...

Quoting: pi

...

"I notice that on the floor,

is a Fedora hat, thrown across some towels.

I do not own one of these hats;

my friend must have left it here.

Cigarette still burning,

I reach down to pick up the hat
."

...
...

Quoting: pi

...

"I put on the hat,

As I light a second cigarette.

I think to myself...

'Why am I in this room'?
"

...
...

Quoting: pi

...

"I wonder to myself...

If he were indeed in the room...

How might I know the difference?

I take a deep drag... exhaling slowly
..."

...
...

Quoting: pi

...

"I look up, suddenly;

In the corner of my eye,

I just barely catch a glimpse

of something in the dark.

It is watching me...

Of this, I am sure...
"

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...

...
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"Yea, though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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No but I can also prove that there is no space/time by using Mr. Stephen Hawking and Mr. Albert Einstein. Gravitational mass effects space/time so much that an object traveling faster than the another object with the same shape and mass will experience time slower than the slower object.

That is proven fact. Even if you were to fly around our Sun at the same speed the Earth travels your perception of time will be slower than ours and you will be at a different point in space/time even if you traveled the same distance. How can two objects that travel the same distance reach different points in the same amount of time?
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Err... velocity?

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"Yea, though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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0 is a concept which only makes sense to 1
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similiar to white light being the sumation of all visible light. can't see white light, can ya? you can see brightness.
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No but I can also prove that there is no space/time by using Mr. Stephen Hawking and Mr. Albert Einstein. Gravitational mass effects space/time so much that an object traveling faster than the another object with the same shape and mass will experience time slower than the slower object.

That is proven fact. Even if you were to fly around our Sun at the same speed the Earth travels your perception of time will be slower than ours and you will be at a different point in space/time even if you traveled the same distance. How can two objects that travel the same distance reach different points in the same amount of time?
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Err... velocity?

Quoting: pi

Even if traveling the same speed I should have added. How can two objects that travel the same distance and speed reach different points in the same amount of time? Or I could ask How can two objects of the same shape and mass travel the same distance at the same speed reach a point in different amounts of time?
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0 is a concept which only makes sense to 1
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...
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"Yea, though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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similiar to white light being the sumation of all visible light. can't see white light, can ya? you can see brightness.
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If you couldn't see white light the background on these text boxes would be black.
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No but I can also prove that there is no space/time by using Mr. Stephen Hawking and Mr. Albert Einstein. Gravitational mass effects space/time so much that an object traveling faster than the another object with the same shape and mass will experience time slower than the slower object.

That is proven fact. Even if you were to fly around our Sun at the same speed the Earth travels your perception of time will be slower than ours and you will be at a different point in space/time even if you traveled the same distance. How can two objects that travel the same distance reach different points in the same amount of time?
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Err... velocity?

Quoting: pi

Electromagnetic waves are far too slow to be the only means of signalling in an immense universe. Gravity requires the near-instantaneous character of the electric force to form stable systems like our solar system and spiral galaxies. Gravitationally, the Earth ‘sees’ the Sun where it is this instant, not where it was more than 8 minutes ago. Newton’s famous law of gravity does not refer to time.
Quoting: observation

Last Edited by aether on 01/02/2013 08:50 AM
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So does getting something from nothing.
There are many reports of this in some cases animals were found alive in stone. True story.
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...

Well that is amazing if true.

And yet...

That is really not what I am getting at.

We could split hairs over Quantum Observers, sure...
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"Yea, though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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This should help
1s 2s 2p 3s 3p 4s 3d 4p 5s 4d 5p 6s 4f 5d 6p 7s 5f 6d 7p
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similiar to white light being the sumation of all visible light. can't see white light, can ya? you can see brightness.
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If you couldn't see white light the background on these text boxes would be black.
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what you see is the brightness not the light.
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No but I can also prove that there is no space/time by using Mr. Stephen Hawking and Mr. Albert Einstein. Gravitational mass effects space/time so much that an object traveling faster than the another object with the same shape and mass will experience time slower than the slower object.

That is proven fact. Even if you were to fly around our Sun at the same speed the Earth travels your perception of time will be slower than ours and you will be at a different point in space/time even if you traveled the same distance. How can two objects that travel the same distance reach different points in the same amount of time?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

Err... velocity?

Quoting: pi

Electromagnetic waves are far too slow to be the only means of signalling in an immense universe. Gravity requires the near-instantaneous character of the electric force to form stable systems like our solar system and spiral galaxies. Gravitationally, the Earth ‘sees’ the Sun where it is this instant, not where it was more than 8 minutes ago. Newton’s famous law of gravity does not refer to time.
Quoting: observation

Quoting: aether

Yes thank you gravity is an instantaneous force that is applied to all objects that connects them all together no matter the distance. Distance is an Illusion.
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similiar to white light being the sumation of all visible light. can't see white light, can ya? you can see brightness.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181

If you couldn't see white light the background on these text boxes would be black.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

what you see is the brightness not the light.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181

Dude that is the same thing. Ask your science teacher about white light. If you couldn't see it it would be like looking into a black hole.
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0 is a concept which only makes sense to 1
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are we having fun yet, grandfather?
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No but I can also prove that there is no space/time by using Mr. Stephen Hawking and Mr. Albert Einstein. Gravitational mass effects space/time so much that an object traveling faster than the another object with the same shape and mass will experience time slower than the slower object.

That is proven fact. Even if you were to fly around our Sun at the same speed the Earth travels your perception of time will be slower than ours and you will be at a different point in space/time even if you traveled the same distance. How can two objects that travel the same distance reach different points in the same amount of time?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

Err... velocity?

Quoting: pi

Electromagnetic waves are far too slow to be the only means of signalling in an immense universe. Gravity requires the near-instantaneous character of the electric force to form stable systems like our solar system and spiral galaxies. Gravitationally, the Earth ‘sees’ the Sun where it is this instant, not where it was more than 8 minutes ago. Newton’s famous law of gravity does not refer to time.
Quoting: observation

Quoting: aether

....

But what if...

There was no balance?

Only... spin?

Would the universe be as we know it?

Last Edited by pi on 01/02/2013 08:54 AM
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"Yea, though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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similiar to white light being the sumation of all visible light. can't see white light, can ya? you can see brightness.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181

If you couldn't see white light the background on these text boxes would be black.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

what you see is the brightness not the light.
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Dude that is the same thing. Ask your science teacher about white light. If you couldn't see it it would be like looking into a black hole.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

you see the reflection off of color you don't see the light.
do you see white light in space?
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No but I can also prove that there is no space/time by using Mr. Stephen Hawking and Mr. Albert Einstein. Gravitational mass effects space/time so much that an object traveling faster than the another object with the same shape and mass will experience time slower than the slower object.

That is proven fact. Even if you were to fly around our Sun at the same speed the Earth travels your perception of time will be slower than ours and you will be at a different point in space/time even if you traveled the same distance. How can two objects that travel the same distance reach different points in the same amount of time?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

Err... velocity?

Quoting: pi

Electromagnetic waves are far too slow to be the only means of signalling in an immense universe. Gravity requires the near-instantaneous character of the electric force to form stable systems like our solar system and spiral galaxies. Gravitationally, the Earth ‘sees’ the Sun where it is this instant, not where it was more than 8 minutes ago. Newton’s famous law of gravity does not refer to time.
Quoting: observation

Quoting: aether

....

But what if...

There was no balance?

Only... spin?

Would the universe be as we know it?

Quoting: pi

How do you mean? Like no gravity?