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# Zero

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01/02/2013 10:33 AM
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Wondering if anyone could explain to me the actual relevance in the concept (and numeral) of '0'.

I seem to think that it is not a valid concept, and that it does not inherently add utility to human science.

This of course would include the concept of the "void".

So? Anyone care to educate me?
Quoting: pi

the divider between matter and antimatter.
Quoting: 7-cube

there is no need for divider between those too because they are the same thing, energy
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01/02/2013 10:37 AM
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new ages (or whatever) bastardizing, tampering science again
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01/02/2013 10:38 AM
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*agers
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Consider this...

"In mathematics, division by zero is division where the divisor (denominator) is zero. Such a division can be formally expressed as a/0 where a is the dividend (numerator). In ordinary (real number) arithmetic, the expression has no meaning, as there is no number which, multiplied by 0, gives a (a&#8800;0), and so division by zero is undefined. Since any number multiplied by zero is zero, the expression 0/0 has no defined value and is called an indeterminate form."

"When division is explained at the elementary arithmetic level, it is often considered as splitting a set of objects into equal parts. As an example, consider having ten cookies, and these cookies are to be distributed equally to five people at a table. Each person would receive = 2 cookies. Similarly, if there are ten cookies, and only one person at the table, that person would receive = 10 cookies."

"So for dividing by zero – what is the number of cookies that each person receives when 10 cookies are evenly distributed amongst 0 people at a table? Certain words can be pinpointed in the question to highlight the problem. The problem with this question is the "when". There is no way to evenly distribute 10 cookies to nobody. In mathematical jargon, a set of 10 items cannot be partitioned into 0 subsets. So , at least in elementary arithmetic, is said to be either meaningless, or undefined."
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01/02/2013 10:38 AM
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new ages (or whatever) bastardizing, tampering science again
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Bitch did you read anything I said?
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01/02/2013 10:39 AM

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Re: Zero
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Wondering if anyone could explain to me the actual relevance in the concept (and numeral) of '0'.

I seem to think that it is not a valid concept, and that it does not inherently add utility to human science.

This of course would include the concept of the "void".

So? Anyone care to educate me?
Quoting: pi

the divider between matter and antimatter.
Quoting: 7-cube

there is no need for divider between those too because they are the same thing, energy
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

new ages (or whatever) bastardizing, tampering science again
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

No clue do ya?

How are matter and antimatter

1) the same thing,
2) energy?

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"And though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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01/02/2013 10:40 AM

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new ages (or whatever) bastardizing, tampering science again
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Quoting: aether

dogma 1 is the assumption nature is mechanical or machine like, that everything in nature is like a machine
animals are like machines, plants are like machines and we are like machines , lumbering robots in richard dawkings vivid phrase
our brains are like genetically programmed computers

second dogma is matter is unconscious , the whole universe is made up of unconscious matter
all of nature is made up of unconscious matter
our bodies are made up of unconscious matter
but
for some peculiar reason our brains become conscious and that is one of the big problems of materialist science

consciousness ought not to exist at all
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Quoting: aether
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new ages (or whatever) bastardizing, tampering science again
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Bitch did you read anything I said?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

You kidding?

He probably just saw Zero in the title and instantly hit reply.
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"And though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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01/02/2013 10:42 AM
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new ages (or whatever) bastardizing, tampering science again
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Bitch did you read anything I said?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

You kidding?

He probably just saw Zero in the title and instantly hit reply.
Quoting: pi

I was referring to how he was saying Science was being bastardized in here. That is beyond bullshit especially regarding everything that I myself was saying.
Most likely its funny how people do that here just jump in without even reading a single comment.
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01/02/2013 10:43 AM
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Wondering if anyone could explain to me the actual relevance in the concept (and numeral) of '0'.

I seem to think that it is not a valid concept, and that it does not inherently add utility to human science.

This of course would include the concept of the "void".

So? Anyone care to educate me?
Quoting: pi

the divider between matter and antimatter.
Quoting: 7-cube

there is no need for divider between those too because they are the same thing, energy
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

new ages (or whatever) bastardizing, tampering science again
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

No clue do ya?

How are matter and antimatter

1) the same thing,
2) energy?

...

Quoting: pi

everything that exists is energy manifested in different forms

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01/02/2013 10:43 AM
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the divider between matter and antimatter.
Quoting: 7-cube

there is no need for divider between those too because they are the same thing, energy
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

new ages (or whatever) bastardizing, tampering science again
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

No clue do ya?

How are matter and antimatter

1) the same thing,
2) energy?

...

Quoting: pi

everything that exists is energy manifested in different forms

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

Wrong.
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01/02/2013 10:45 AM
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there is no need for divider between those too because they are the same thing, energy
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

new ages (or whatever) bastardizing, tampering science again
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

No clue do ya?

How are matter and antimatter

1) the same thing,
2) energy?

...

Quoting: pi

everything that exists is energy manifested in different forms

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

Wrong.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

refute
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01/02/2013 10:46 AM
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No clue do ya?

How are matter and antimatter

1) the same thing,
2) energy?

...

Quoting: pi

everything that exists is energy manifested in different forms

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

Wrong.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

refute
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

Absolute Zero Bitch.
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01/02/2013 10:47 AM

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new ages (or whatever) bastardizing, tampering science again
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Bitch did you read anything I said?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

You kidding?

He probably just saw Zero in the title and instantly hit reply.
Quoting: pi

I was referring to how he was saying Science was being bastardized in here. That is beyond bullshit especially regarding everything that I myself was saying.
Most likely its funny how people do that here just jump in without even reading a single comment.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

No kiddin. Lets hope he doesn't make too much of a mess or I'll have to start cleaning...
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"And though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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01/02/2013 10:47 AM
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Bitch did you read anything I said?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

You kidding?

He probably just saw Zero in the title and instantly hit reply.
Quoting: pi

I was referring to how he was saying Science was being bastardized in here. That is beyond bullshit especially regarding everything that I myself was saying.
Most likely its funny how people do that here just jump in without even reading a single comment.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

No kiddin. Lets hope he doesn't make too much of a mess or I'll have to start cleaning...
Quoting: pi

Nothing a little Logic can't handle.
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01/02/2013 10:51 AM
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everything that exists is energy manifested in different forms

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Wrong.
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refute
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Absolute Zero Bitch.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

concretely speaking, what would be absolute zero?
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01/02/2013 10:52 AM
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Wrong.
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refute
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Absolute Zero Bitch.
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concretely speaking, what would be absolute zero?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

It is a point where it is so cold that energy can't transfer yet there is still matter imagine that.
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You kidding?

He probably just saw Zero in the title and instantly hit reply.
Quoting: pi

I was referring to how he was saying Science was being bastardized in here. That is beyond bullshit especially regarding everything that I myself was saying.
Most likely its funny how people do that here just jump in without even reading a single comment.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

No kiddin. Lets hope he doesn't make too much of a mess or I'll have to start cleaning...
Quoting: pi

Nothing a little Logic can't handle.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

Love the attitude. Keep it up!
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"And though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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01/02/2013 10:54 AM
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refute
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Absolute Zero Bitch.
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concretely speaking, what would be absolute zero?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

It is a point where it is so cold that energy can't transfer yet there is still matter imagine that.
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still there is still something, inept
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01/02/2013 11:00 AM
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obviously your abstract and concrete thinking are not developed enough to understand what i'm talking about
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Absolute Zero Bitch.
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concretely speaking, what would be absolute zero?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

It is a point where it is so cold that energy can't transfer yet there is still matter imagine that.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

still there is still something, inept
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

...What?
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"And though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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01/02/2013 11:01 AM

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obviously your abstract and concrete thinking are not developed enough to understand what i'm talking about
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One more BS slip like that and I'm gonna start deleting posts...
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"And though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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01/02/2013 11:06 AM
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Absolute Zero Bitch.
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concretely speaking, what would be absolute zero?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

It is a point where it is so cold that energy can't transfer yet there is still matter imagine that.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

still there is still something, inept
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Yes and? Ok let me put it like this. All matter contains Energy but matter is not comprised of Energy. Does a rock sitting on the ground have Energy? No it doesn't. Energy is the force that is applied on an object of mass. During absolute zero that Force is stopped. For instance even light which is photon energy even stops but only if it hits an object of mass, because there has to be a transfer. Using your own logic you make Mass the constant. Mass is not the constant Energy is a constant. Can you destroy matter yessir you sure as hell can. Wanna know how? You use anti-matter. Can you destroy Energy hell no, you can only transfer it. Therefore Mass and Energy are two separate entities. There are only three things in this universe Energy, Matter, and Anti-Matter. The Big Bang was caused by Matter and Anti-matter releasing Energy. For the longest time we thought Space/time was also apart of it but space/time is an illusion. Like I said already that is proven. They are very much alike however they are completely different and saying that they are the same is stupid and nonsensical.
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01/02/2013 11:17 AM

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Yes and? Ok let me put it like this. All matter contains Energy but matter is not comprised of Energy. Does a rock sitting on the ground have Energy? No it doesn't. Energy is the force that is applied on an object of mass. During absolute zero that Force is stopped. For instance even light which is photon energy even stops but only if it hits an object of mass, because there has to be a transfer. Using your own logic you make Mass the constant. Mass is not the constant Energy is a constant. Can you destroy matter yessir you sure as hell can. Wanna know how? You use anti-matter. Can you destroy Energy hell no, you can only transfer it. Therefore Mass and Energy are two separate entities. There are only three things in this universe Energy, Matter, and Anti-Matter. The Big Bang was caused by Matter and Anti-matter releasing Energy. For the longest time we thought Space/time was also apart of it but space/time is an illusion. Like I said already that is proven. They are very much alike however they are completely different and saying that they are the same is stupid and nonsensical.
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so
anti matter is non material dimensions
matter is material dimension
energy is motivated motion

yes?
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01/02/2013 11:21 AM
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Yes and? Ok let me put it like this. All matter contains Energy but matter is not comprised of Energy. Does a rock sitting on the ground have Energy? No it doesn't. Energy is the force that is applied on an object of mass. During absolute zero that Force is stopped. For instance even light which is photon energy even stops but only if it hits an object of mass, because there has to be a transfer. Using your own logic you make Mass the constant. Mass is not the constant Energy is a constant. Can you destroy matter yessir you sure as hell can. Wanna know how? You use anti-matter. Can you destroy Energy hell no, you can only transfer it. Therefore Mass and Energy are two separate entities. There are only three things in this universe Energy, Matter, and Anti-Matter. The Big Bang was caused by Matter and Anti-matter releasing Energy. For the longest time we thought Space/time was also apart of it but space/time is an illusion. Like I said already that is proven. They are very much alike however they are completely different and saying that they are the same is stupid and nonsensical.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

so
anti matter is non material dimensions
matter is material dimension
energy is motivated motion

yes?
Quoting: aether

Anti-matter and Matter are kind of the same thing but are complete opposites. We consider Matter+ and anti- because our planet and most of observable universe is comprised of Matter. Energy is kind of motivated motion I guess you can't have motion without it. Yet you can't have it without motion so we look at it as an object that can't be observed without E=MC^2 that is the only way we can measure it. So yes you do need mass to measure energy but that doesn't mean they are the same thing.
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01/02/2013 11:24 AM
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concretely speaking, what would be absolute zero?
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It is a point where it is so cold that energy can't transfer yet there is still matter imagine that.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764698

still there is still something, inept
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

Yes and? Ok let me put it like this. All matter contains Energy but matter is not comprised of Energy. Does a rock sitting on the ground have Energy? No it doesn't. Energy is the force that is applied on an object of mass. During absolute zero that Force is stopped. For instance even light which is photon energy even stops but only if it hits an object of mass, because there has to be a transfer. Using your own logic you make Mass the constant. Mass is not the constant Energy is a constant. Can you destroy matter yessir you sure as hell can. Wanna know how? You use anti-matter. Can you destroy Energy hell no, you can only transfer it. Therefore Mass and Energy are two separate entities. There are only three things in this universe Energy, Matter, and Anti-Matter. The Big Bang was caused by Matter and Anti-matter releasing Energy. For the longest time we thought Space/time was also apart of it but space/time is an illusion. Like I said already that is proven. They are very much alike however they are completely different and saying that they are the same is stupid and nonsensical.
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mass/matter is a from of energy
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so
anti matter is non material dimensions
matter is material dimension
energy is motivated motion

yes?
Quoting: aether

Are you aware of the configuration/charge of the so-called "antiparticles"?
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"And though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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01/02/2013 11:29 AM
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It is a point where it is so cold that energy can't transfer yet there is still matter imagine that.
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still there is still something, inept
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29177248

Yes and? Ok let me put it like this. All matter contains Energy but matter is not comprised of Energy. Does a rock sitting on the ground have Energy? No it doesn't. Energy is the force that is applied on an object of mass. During absolute zero that Force is stopped. For instance even light which is photon energy even stops but only if it hits an object of mass, because there has to be a transfer. Using your own logic you make Mass the constant. Mass is not the constant Energy is a constant. Can you destroy matter yessir you sure as hell can. Wanna know how? You use anti-matter. Can you destroy Energy hell no, you can only transfer it. Therefore Mass and Energy are two separate entities. There are only three things in this universe Energy, Matter, and Anti-Matter. The Big Bang was caused by Matter and Anti-matter releasing Energy. For the longest time we thought Space/time was also apart of it but space/time is an illusion. Like I said already that is proven. They are very much alike however they are completely different and saying that they are the same is stupid and nonsensical.
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mass/matter is a from of energy
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Again you've showed your ignorance. Mass and Matter are different. Mass is measured by an objects resistance to Energy. Look at it this way. An atom is comprised of what? The building blocks, mass and then dead space. The dead space is caused by energy and the building blocks are comprised of matter. The mass is comprised of both of them the material bulk or the building blocks and then the dead space which is caused by opposing energies.
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:spyda:
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Oh its all in good fun.

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"And though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.... ~
~ ~ 949 444 1178711 ~{exo Thelema: "Fac Quod Vis": Lex solus, exclusiva omnium aliorum! / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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