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The American Revolution against British Gun Control

By David B. Kopel*

Administrative and Regulatory Law News (American Bar Association). Vol. 37, no. 4, Summer 2012. More by Kopel on the right to arms in the Founding Era.

This Article reviews the British gun control program that precipitated the American Revolution: the 1774 import ban on firearms and gunpowder; the 1774-75 confiscations of firearms and gunpowder; and the use of violence to effectuate the confiscations. It was these events that changed a situation of political tension into a shooting war. Each of these British abuses provides insights into the scope of the modern Second Amendment.

Furious at the December 1773 Boston Tea Party, Parliament in 1774 passed the Coercive Acts. The particular provisions of the Coercive Acts were offensive to Americans, but it was the possibility that the British might deploy the army to enforce them that primed many colonists for armed resistance. The Patriots of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, resolved: “That in the event of Great Britain attempting to force unjust laws upon us by the strength of arms, our cause we leave to heaven and our rifles.” A South Carolina newspaper essay, reprinted in Virginia, urged that any law that had to be enforced by the military was necessarily illegitimate.

The Royal Governor of Massachusetts, General Thomas Gage, had forbidden town meetings from taking place more than once a year. When he dispatched the Redcoats to break up an illegal town meeting in Salem, 3000 armed Americans appeared in response, and the British retreated. Gage’s aide John Andrews explained that everyone in the area aged 16 years or older owned a gun and plenty of gunpowder.

Military rule would be difficult to impose on an armed populace. Gage had only 2,000 troops in Boston. There were thousands of armed men in Boston alone, and more in the surrounding area. One response to the problem was to deprive the Americans of gunpowder.

Modern “smokeless” gunpowder is stable under most conditions. The “black powder” of the 18th Century was far more volatile. Accordingly, large quantities of black powder were often stored in a town’s “powder house,” typically a reinforced brick building. The powder house would hold merchants’ reserves, large quantities stored by individuals, as well as powder for use by the local militia. Although colonial laws generally required militiamen (and sometimes all householders, too) to have their own firearm and a minimum quantity of powder, not everyone could afford it. Consequently, the government sometimes supplied “public arms” and powder to individual militiamen. Policies varied on whether militiamen who had been given public arms would keep them at home. Public arms would often be stored in a special armory, which might also be the powder house.


More at [link to www.davekopel.org]

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The American Revolution against British Gun Control

By David B. Kopel*

Administrative and Regulatory Law News (American Bar Association). Vol. 37, no. 4, Summer 2012. More by Kopel on the right to arms in the Founding Era.

This Article reviews the British gun control program that precipitated the American Revolution: the 1774 import ban on firearms and gunpowder; the 1774-75 confiscations of firearms and gunpowder; and the use of violence to effectuate the confiscations. It was these events that changed a situation of political tension into a shooting war. Each of these British abuses provides insights into the scope of the modern Second Amendment.

Furious at the December 1773 Boston Tea Party, Parliament in 1774 passed the Coercive Acts. The particular provisions of the Coercive Acts were offensive to Americans, but it was the possibility that the British might deploy the army to enforce them that primed many colonists for armed resistance. The Patriots of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, resolved: “That in the event of Great Britain attempting to force unjust laws upon us by the strength of arms, our cause we leave to heaven and our rifles.” A South Carolina newspaper essay, reprinted in Virginia, urged that any law that had to be enforced by the military was necessarily illegitimate.

The Royal Governor of Massachusetts, General Thomas Gage, had forbidden town meetings from taking place more than once a year. When he dispatched the Redcoats to break up an illegal town meeting in Salem, 3000 armed Americans appeared in response, and the British retreated. Gage’s aide John Andrews explained that everyone in the area aged 16 years or older owned a gun and plenty of gunpowder.

Military rule would be difficult to impose on an armed populace. Gage had only 2,000 troops in Boston. There were thousands of armed men in Boston alone, and more in the surrounding area. One response to the problem was to deprive the Americans of gunpowder.

Modern “smokeless” gunpowder is stable under most conditions. The “black powder” of the 18th Century was far more volatile. Accordingly, large quantities of black powder were often stored in a town’s “powder house,” typically a reinforced brick building. The powder house would hold merchants’ reserves, large quantities stored by individuals, as well as powder for use by the local militia. Although colonial laws generally required militiamen (and sometimes all householders, too) to have their own firearm and a minimum quantity of powder, not everyone could afford it. Consequently, the government sometimes supplied “public arms” and powder to individual militiamen. Policies varied on whether militiamen who had been given public arms would keep them at home. Public arms would often be stored in a special armory, which might also be the powder house.


More at [link to www.davekopel.org]
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Doubt it, back then men knew how to be men and we actually loved our country. Today we love the new iphone and are "destroyed" when our 4G internet is down.
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Have to wonder if history may be repeating itself?
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Doubt it, back then men knew how to be men and we actually loved our country. Today we love the new iphone and are "destroyed" when our 4G internet is down.
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True, but wasn't it only a small percentage of the country that was actually involved in the Revolutionary War? Have to wonder how that would correlate to today...
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3.5% of the population fought the British during the Revolutionary War with firearms. Give or take a tenth of a percent, while another 10% actively aided the colonial army.

Say there is 318 million living in the USA in 2013.

3.5% of 318 million = 11,130,000 ready to bear arms and are not FUDDs

...just doing some math here and if history repeats itself then possibly these numbers reflect a whole lot of firepower in a very large citizens army that says FU to gun control.

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Have to wonder if history may be repeating itself?
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Indeed indeed...as we speak!
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Ah yes, but this time it isn't us that are after your guns, just the in country socilaists oh and the UN in NY
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Have to wonder if history may be repeating itself?
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Well, if it does; it will end with a similar result.
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Doubt it, back then men knew how to be men and we actually loved our country. Today we love the new iphone and are "destroyed" when our 4G internet is down.
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True, but wasn't it only a small percentage of the country that was actually involved in the Revolutionary War? Have to wonder how that would correlate to today...
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Yes you are correct, only a very small percentage of the colonials participated directly in the war. Many more did support the war with donations though. Things like arms, draft animals, carts and wagons, foods and drinks. Not to mention the amount of spying documented in the war was quite interesting. There are many more ways to fight a war than just standing in front of an enemy and pulling a trigger.
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History IS Repeating itself. I especially like this quote: "any law that had to be enforced by the military was necessarily illegitimate."

Obama wants to use UN troops, not US troops to take away our guns. Outside troops "always" escalate the situation and will lead us into a civil war. I can see it in the history books now, the war of 2013.
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Doubt it, back then men knew how to be men and we actually loved our country. Today we love the new iphone and are "destroyed" when our 4G internet is down.
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True, but wasn't it only a small percentage of the country that was actually involved in the Revolutionary War? Have to wonder how that would correlate to today...
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Yes you are correct, only a very small percentage of the colonials participated directly in the war. Many more did support the war with donations though. Things like arms, draft animals, carts and wagons, foods and drinks. Not to mention the amount of spying documented in the war was quite interesting. There are many more ways to fight a war than just standing in front of an enemy and pulling a trigger.
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only 2% of American's have served in the Military....Yes, that is an accurate number.
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Doubt it, back then men knew how to be men and we actually loved our country. Today we love the new iphone and are "destroyed" when our 4G internet is down.
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True, but wasn't it only a small percentage of the country that was actually involved in the Revolutionary War? Have to wonder how that would correlate to today...
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Yes you are correct, only a very small percentage of the colonials participated directly in the war. Many more did support the war with donations though. Things like arms, draft animals, carts and wagons, foods and drinks. Not to mention the amount of spying documented in the war was quite interesting. There are many more ways to fight a war than just standing in front of an enemy and pulling a trigger.
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only 2% of American's have served in the Military....Yes, that is an accurate number.
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The population of the colonies was around ~3,000,000 (roughly the current population of Denver, CO), and it is estimated that between three and five percent of that population were actively involved (not at all discounting the passive involvement/ assistance mentioned above).

This translates to somewhere in between ~90,000 ~150,000 actively engaged during the Revolutionary War.

Our current population is ~330,000,000, with a greater half of that concentrated in the more major incorporated areas.
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True, but wasn't it only a small percentage of the country that was actually involved in the Revolutionary War? Have to wonder how that would correlate to today...
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Yes you are correct, only a very small percentage of the colonials participated directly in the war. Many more did support the war with donations though. Things like arms, draft animals, carts and wagons, foods and drinks. Not to mention the amount of spying documented in the war was quite interesting. There are many more ways to fight a war than just standing in front of an enemy and pulling a trigger.
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only 2% of American's have served in the Military....Yes, that is an accurate number.
 Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR


The population of the colonies was around ~3,000,000 (roughly the current population of Denver, CO), and it is estimated that between three and five percent of that population were actively involved (not at all discounting the passive involvement/ assistance mentioned above).

This translates to somewhere in between ~90,000 ~150,000 actively engaged during the Revolutionary War.

Our current population is ~330,000,000, with a greater half of that concentrated in the more major incorporated areas.
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Have to wonder how any of our population are gun owners (have sick kids, can't Google it now to answer my own question lol) and then what % would get actively involved in something like this either physically or via funding...wonder what the comparison would be.
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This time it will be a RESTORATION, not a revolution.
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Does this mean israel is trying to "get some" this time around?
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This time it will be a RESTORATION, not a revolution.
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Some people never learn.

Looks like its almost time for the corrupt of UKs every 100 year ass-whoopin again.

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