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Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.

 
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Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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Genesis is a clear plagiarism of some older Sumerian creation myths. Bible tards don't want to hear such things though. Shhh. Don't awaken the Jesus freaks!
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It's called the Godhead. The Hebrew word 'Elohim' is both singular and plural, referring to the Godhead of the Father and Jesus Christ. Both were involved in the act of Creation, however, it was Jesus Christ who spoke the words and formed man.

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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
This is most important. Let's discuss it. It is the Ultimate Conspiracy and this is a conspiracy forum.
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
It's called the Godhead. The Hebrew word 'Elohim' is both singular and plural, referring to the Godhead of the Father and Jesus Christ. Both were involved in the act of Creation, however, it was Jesus Christ who spoke the words and formed man.

In other words, absolute proof one should think before he speaks.
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Yes, elohim is plural. Any hebrew word with im on the end is plural. But, how do you explain this Lord God that pops up in 2:4 and makes dust man. Elohim already made man, did he not?
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The bible is proof that people will only see what they want to see.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
read some apocrypha and come back again

apocrypha of john is interesting in that matter.
- ? Nus.

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_Alive, therefore life itself.
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There is a church house on every corner down here in the south and two billion believers in the world. How could anyone miss this blatant conflict in the story right at the get go? Shouldn't a whole lot of people be talking about this? Who is this Lord God that made dust man?
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Perhaps he creates a special race of man.
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The bible is just rewritten history...with much left out for confusion's sake so that the current Controllers could take over. It was Taken from several books...that is why there are sections called "books".
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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Not a contradiction. The Infinite Being manifesting as different bodies/body for the purposes of creation and order. The first is the creation of the universal order. The first "earth" is not this planet, it is the first orb of real matter out of the infinite. The Logos.

“The Holy One, Blessed be He, said to those, You want to know my name? I am called according to my actions. When I judge the creatures I am Elohim, and when I have mercy with My world, I am named YHVH” (Ex R. 3:6).

I could explain it all to you if you were interested in actual Knowing.

If you want to continue to scoff at something you obviously do not understand. I will be on my way.
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
I've covered this one, but it's more fun watching people squirm.
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I really thought you were just kidding when I first saw this post but now I can see that you are serious.
Can't you understand that it speaks of what happened in general in the first part and then goes into more detail in the next?

Like if I said, "WE went to buy a car" and then later said, "when SAM test drove the car he thought..."

Do you understand?
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
It's called the Godhead. The Hebrew word 'Elohim' is both singular and plural, referring to the Godhead of the Father and Jesus Christ. Both were involved in the act of Creation, however, it was Jesus Christ who spoke the words and formed man.

In other words, absolute proof one should think before he speaks.
 Quoting: Voice In The Wilderness


Yes, elohim is plural. Any hebrew word with im on the end is plural. But, how do you explain this Lord God that pops up in 2:4 and makes dust man. Elohim already made man, did he not?
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Look up Adam Kadmon. There is a luminous creation of man before there is a physical creation.

Every single physical thing is first created luminously as an living idea. Man is no different.

Pythagoras: "The universe and Man are both made in the same Image of God. Knowledge of one precludes knowledge of the other."
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
Genesis 1 is Summary

Genesis 2 is Detail

It is only difficult if you see with fleshly eyes.
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
Hey OP, it's like you're saying: "You see that Rubix cube over there with all the colors mixed up? It's a LIE!"
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Focus on the Gospels and Christ's teachings.
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I really thought you were just kidding when I first saw this post but now I can see that you are serious.
Can't you understand that it speaks of what happened in general in the first part and then goes into more detail in the next?

Like if I said, "WE went to buy a car" and then later said, "when SAM test drove the car he thought..."

Do you understand?
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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joker
Faire et se taire
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
Shortly after this god says don't eat an apple or you'll die - they eat an apple and don't die, then when he comes back they hide behind some trees and he has to go looking for them.

Now... I'm not being funny but how the fuck can you hide from God behind a tree if he's an infinite all knowing being. If he was God it's fair to assume he's gonna kick your arse at hide and seek - he sees everything... Except... Hang on, he didn't see them eat the apple. This chancer is either not a god or at best a very incompetent one.
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The bible is just rewritten history...with much left out for confusion's sake so that the current Controllers could take over. It was Taken from several books...that is why there are sections called "books".
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^^^^^^THIS.....I'm not a "BibleTard"...but it's obvious to the more knowledgeable, and non-fanatical Christians that the Bible is a "Collection" of many books, stories, figurative examples....and, unfortunately, alot of missing or removed information via the powers that be. Does the Bible contain Sumerian information? Possibly. Probably. Does it matter though? People with half a brain should have no problem taking the MESSAGES of love, peace and good will intended by this book. I certainly have no prob deciphering what's most important in the book. Is there a Universal Creator? I believe so. The perfectly tuned mathematics of our Universe is highly unlikely without an Intelligence driving it. It is very unlikely to have formed via chance. (IMHO)* Is the Bible a Lie? No. I dont think so.
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Hmm interesting, Maybe the bible is just a rewrite and misunderstood?
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
Think of it like this:

YHVH = White Light.

Elohim = 7 colors.
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
It's called the Godhead. The Hebrew word 'Elohim' is both singular and plural, referring to the Godhead of the Father and Jesus Christ. Both were involved in the act of Creation, however, it was Jesus Christ who spoke the words and formed man.

In other words, absolute proof one should think before he speaks.
 Quoting: Voice In The Wilderness


Yes, elohim is plural. Any hebrew word with im on the end is plural. But, how do you explain this Lord God that pops up in 2:4 and makes dust man. Elohim already made man, did he not?
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Yes. It explains what happened to man which separated him from His Creator.

"He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when he was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything." Mark 4:34

So instead of blaspheming that it's a "lie", just hold up your hand that you are not a disciple. In which case, perhaps try thinking this.
1. God is good.
2. Good therefore would tell the Truth and give the world the Truth. Jesus stood in front of Judea stating that he was that Truth.

Because otherwise, you must believe that your Creator is wicked which I don't think that you believe and you must believe that your Creator abandoned us all.

He didn't. He even told us that it's His will that all be saved, but that, the light came into the world but men preferred darkness because their deeds were evil.

See it. Feel that truth. Seek and he shall find.
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
Want more bread?

This is not creation....this is procreation.
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You (OP) have a western mindset. You are reading an eastern book. You think you have absolute proof of a contradiction. But in reality, it's your western thinking that simply does not understand how the Hebrews thought and wrote.

Cool down a few degrees.
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23761823


Genesis 1:1 In a Beginning created Gods (Elohim)Alph Tav Heavens Alph Tav Earth.

The Gods Then created and then formed....
Thread: Gen 1 creation and Gen 2 formed

Man is the problem If they read Hebrew and Greek they would be able to tell you what is said... They are not. There lies the problem

In a beginning created Gods
Thread: Genesis 1:1 In a Beginning created Gods

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"No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the Lord; none of his descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall enter the assembly of the Lord."

God is jesus's father, but marry was married to joseph, so jesus is illegitimate.
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
It's called the Godhead. The Hebrew word 'Elohim' is both singular and plural, referring to the Godhead of the Father and Jesus Christ. Both were involved in the act of Creation, however, it was Jesus Christ who spoke the words and formed man.

In other words, absolute proof one should think before he speaks.
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" it was Jesus Christ who spoke the words and formed man."

How ?, seeing as Jesus didnt turm up untill the New testament you idiot.

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