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Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.

 
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Desert Battle Against Genetically Engineered Monsters Dream
By Brian Charles

Around 1993 or so I had this vivid dream in color when I was sleeping under some salt cedar trees next to the Interstate in a town out in the middle of the desert in California. After I awoke, I felt the presence and joy of the Lord for hours in the morning—this dream is truly a prophetic warning from God about what is coming in the future!!!

(Dream begins) I was standing on a rocky outcropping in the desert among a small group of warriors. It was our mission to destroy the Desert Monsters with our ray guns or directed energy weapons. These monsters were genetically engineered in laboratories primarily in Germany and other parts of Western Europe, and they freely ranged in the California Desert. I then directly encountered one face to face in the open desert. It was a humanoid-type of creature—it had 2 legs, 2 arms, a very large head, and a thick turtle-like chest that was an armored carapace. Its chest or carapace was about as big as a child’s plastic swimming pool, something like 8 feet by 12 feet in diameter in an oval-like shape, and it had iridescent colors on it. (Dream ends)

Please read the below listed books to gain more information on the evil genetic engineering programs being conducted by the Federal Government at the underground cities at the Area 51 site, and the underground laboratory site at Dulce, NM. This is the literal fulfillment nowadays of Genesis 6 again, the introgression of demon DNA into the human DNA genome, by powerful Illuminati Satanists, Masons, occultists, medical professionals in various institutes, and other very evil people working in secret, all involved in this secret, black-budget Federal Government program, and funded by your tax dollars. There are no “space aliens” per se, these extraterrestrial creatures are all materialized demons that have manifested in our material world that these extremely evil people are interacting with, producing hybrid races of demon/human crosses. This is one reason why God will again flood the world like He did during Noah’s time, but in this next time He will flood the world with fire to destroy this wickedness on the earth.
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Did you guys ever hear of a song called "wishing I was Lucky" or something like that from a band called Wet, Wet, Wet. I have been trying to find it on Itunes and I can't. PLEASE HELP
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If people would stick with the language the bible is now written in this would not be a problem
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you guys never cease to amaze me.

sooo you take the translation of the translation of the translation of the translation of the translation of the translation (times 100) of allegedly god's word as the REAL WORD OF GOD(tm) just because it is convenient?
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No because God had Daniel and his 3 friends write it down to correct all the errors that were introduced with keeping the Torah as an oral book for so many centuries, He didn't update the correct version of what it all meant, that was to wait for the NT to be added to the information that would be made available first.
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If people would stick with the language the bible is now written in this would not be a problem
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you guys never cease to amaze me.

sooo you take the translation of the translation of the translation of the translation of the translation of the translation (times 100) of allegedly god's word as the REAL WORD OF GOD(tm) just because it is convenient?
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hahahaha...
translating ancient documents isn't like mixing koolaid. it doesnt dilute and get watered down.
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Doesn't Genesis One Contradict Genesis Two?
by Rich Deem

Introduction


Multiple Authors in Genesis?


Are Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 written by multiple authors, thus producing contradictions? A careful study of the text shows that Genesis 2 is merely a more detailed account of the short Genesis 1 narrative describing the creation of human beings.


Rich Deem

Genesis chapters one and two describe the creation of the universe, the earth, and life on the earth. Some have said that these accounts are purely mythology. One of the reasons for this perception is because of the apparent contradiction between chapters one and two in the creation accounts. Chapter one describes the creation of plants followed by the creation of animals then humans. Chapter two seems to describe the creation of humans followed by the creation of plants then animals. If this assessment is true, it would seem that there is a contradiction between the creation accounts of Genesis 1 and 2.

Genesis one

Genesis one, the first chapter of the Bible, begins with the creation of the "heavens and earth"1 - a phrase that describes the entire universe. The Genesis one account is notable for being sequential, since the events are listed numerically by the day in which they occurred. Where does this creation take place? Locations mentioned include the heavens (the Hebrew termshamayim can refer to the atmosphere, interstellar space, or God's abode),2 earth (the Hebrew term erets can refer to the entire planet, a people group, or a local piece of geography),3 Sun, moon, and stars.4 How do we know the Hebrew term erets refers to the entire planet as opposed to local geography? Verse 2 describes the "surface of the deep,"5 which describes the primordial ocean.6 Subsequent verses indicate that there was no land until God caused it to appear from the midst of the waters.7 These facts, in the absence of specific place names, suggests that Genesis one describes creation on a global scale.


Genesis 1 vs. 2?

Besides describing the formation of land and seas, Genesis one describes the creation of plants and animals. The account begins with the creation on plants. Following this is the creation of birds, large sea creatures and swarming sea life. On the final "day," God creates the large grazing mammals and carnivores, along with small scurrying mammals. Creation culminates with the creation of mankind - the last creatures God creates. For a more detailed explanation, see The Literal Interpretation of the Genesis One Creation Account and Day-Age Genesis One Interpretation.

Genesis two

Contrary to what many "scholars" have reported, Genesis two is not a retelling of Genesis one. How can we determine this to be true? First, we should examine the overall context. Genesis two is considerably different in regard to the emphasis of the content. Genesis one dedicates 4 verses (13%) to the creation of humans, beginning with verse 26. However, Genesis two dedicates 19 verses (76%) to the creation of humans, beginning with verse 7. Actually, since there are no real chapter breaks in the original Hebrew manuscripts, the story of the creation of humans continues throughout chapter 3 (another 24 verses). Obviously, the emphasis of the two "versions" is quite different. Part of the problem understanding this passage is because of the poor choice of English words in the common translations. The Hebrew word erets can be translated as "earth" (meaning global) or "land" (referring to a local geographical area). In the Old Testament, erets almost always refers to local geography and not the planet as a whole. We need to examine the context to determine whether erets refers to the entire earth or only a portion of it.

In contrast to Genesis one, there are no indications that the text is referring to global creation. In fact, Genesis 2 begins with God planting a garden8 in a place called Eden, whose location is described in the text that follows. In all, there are three other place names mentioned along with four rivers (verses 10-14). The second place name is Havilah, which is thought to be near the Caspian Sea.9 The third is Cush, which is thought to be a location in Southern Egypt or Ethiopia.10 The fourth is Assyria, which constitutes modern Iraq and Iran.11 Of the four rivers described in the text, only two are definitively identifiable. The Tigris12 and Euphrates13 Rivers run though Iraq and Iran. All the events of Genesis 2 occur in Eden, which is bounded by the three other locations, putting it within the Mesopotamian flood plain.

The narrative continues with descriptions of creation events. Adam was placed in the garden to cultivate it. God brought to Adam the animals He had already created for him to name.14 Since a suitable companion was not found for Adam, God created Eve.15 The narrative concludes with the initiation of the first marriage.16 All the creation descriptions in Genesis two can be attributed to the preparation of a place in which the first humans would live. Therefore, Genesis two further develops the account of mankind's creation at the end of the sixth day.

Conclusion

Genesis 1 is the account of the creation of the universe and life on planet earth as it happened in chronological sequence. Genesis 2 is simply an expanded explanation of the events that occurred at the end of the sixth creation day - when God created human beings. Genesis one provides virtually no details about the creation of human beings (other than the idea that humans were created in the image of God). For a book that is dedicated to the relationship between humans and God, four verses seems like a rather poor explanation for the creation of God's preeminent creature. This is because Genesis one was never intended to stand apart from Genesis 2 and 3. Genesis 2 describes God's preparation of a specific location on earth (Eden) for habitation by the first human beings. Part of the confusion results from our English translations, which use the term "earth" when the Hebrew would better be translated "land." Read a modified NIV translation of the Genesis 2 account to see how the text should read.

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Related Pages
•The Literal Interpretation of the Genesis One Creation Account
•Day-Age Genesis One Interpretation
•Creationary Model for the Universe and Life on Earth
•The Genesis Flood- Why the Bible Says It Must be Local- For a good discussion of the Hebrew word erets.
•Where Did Cain Get His Wife?: What About Inbreeding?

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References
1.In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. (Genesis 1:1)
2.Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions:
shamayim (Strong's H8064) 1.heaven, heavens, sky a.visible heavens, sky 1.as abode of the stars
2.as the visible universe, the sky, atmosphere, etc.

b.Heaven (as the abode of God)

Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from an unused root meaning to be lofty
Same Word by TWOT Number: 2407a
3.Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions:
erets (Strong's H776) 1.land, earth a.earth 1.whole earth (as opposed to a part)
2.earth (as opposed to heaven)
3.earth (inhabitants)

b.land
c.
1. country, territory
2. district, region
3. tribal territory
4. piece of ground
5. land of Canaan, Israel
6. inhabitants of land
7.Sheol, land without return, (under) world
8. city (-state)

2.ground, surface of the earth
3.
1. ground
2. soil

4. (in phrases)
5.
1. people of the land
2. space or distance of country (in measurements of distance)
3. level or plain country
4. land of the living
5.end(s) of the earth
6. (almost wholly late in usage)
7.
1. lands, countries a. often in contrast to Canaan

Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from an unused root probably meaning to be firm
Same Word by TWOT Number: 167 •God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also. (Genesis 1:16)
•The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. (Genesis 1:2)
•Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions:
tehôm / (Strong's H8415) 1.deep, depths, deep places, abyss, the deep, sea a.deep (of subterranean waters)
b.deep, sea, abysses (of sea)
c.primeval ocean, deep
d.deep, depth (of river)
e.abyss, the grave

Part of Speech: noun feminine or masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from H1949
Same Word by TWOT Number: 2495a
•Then God said, "Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear"; and it was so. (Genesis 1:9)
•Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. (Genesis 2:7-9)
•Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions:
Havilah = "circle"
chăvîylâh (Strong's H2341) 1.a part of Eden through which flowed the river Pison (Araxes); was probably the Grecian Colchis, in the northeast corner of Asia Minor, near the Caspian Sea (noun proper locative)
2.a district in Arabia of the Ishmaelites named from the 2nd son of Cush; probably the district of Kualan, in the northwestern part of Yemen (noun proper locative)
3.a son of Cush (noun proper masculine)
4.a son of Joktan (noun proper masculine)
Part of Speech: see above in Definition
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: probably from H2342
Same Word by TWOT Number: 622
•Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions:
Cush = "black"
kûsh (Strong's H3568) 1.a Benjamite mentioned only in the title of Ps 7 (noun proper masculine)
2.the son of Ham and grandson of Noah and the progenitor of the southernmost peoples located in Africa (noun proper masculine)
3.the peoples descended from Cush (noun proper masculine)
4.the land occupied by the descendants of Cush located around the southern parts of the Nile (Ethiopia) (noun proper locative)
Part of Speech: see above in Definition
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: probably of foreign origin
Same Word by TWOT Number: 969
•Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions:
Asshur or Assyria = "a step"
ashshûr / (Strong's H804) 1.the second son of Shem, eponymous ancestor of the Assyrians (noun proper masculine)
2.the people of Assyria (noun proper masculine)
3.the nation, Assyria (noun proper locative)
4.the land, Assyria or Asshur (noun proper locative)
Part of Speech: see above in Definition
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: apparently from H833 (in the sense of successful)
Same Word by TWOT Number: 176
•Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions:
Hiddekel = "rapid"
chiddeqel (Strong's H2313) 1.one of the rivers of Eden which coursed east toward Assyria; better known as the Tigris (the LXX equivalent)
Part of Speech: noun proper masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: probably of foreign origin
•Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions:
Euphrates = "fruitfulness"
perâth (Strong's H6578) 1.the largest and longest river of western Asia; rises from two chief sources in the Armenian mountains and flows into the Persian Gulf
Part of Speech: noun proper masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from an unused root meaning to break forth
•Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. (Genesis 2:19)
•So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field. But for Adam no suitable helper was found. So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, He took one of the man's ribs and closed up the place with flesh. Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib He had taken out of the man, and He brought her to the man. (Genesis 1:20-22)
•For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed. (Genesis 2:24-25)

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Genesis 1 is Summary

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It is only difficult if you see with fleshly eyes.
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Okay, so maybe you have an answer for why Adam and Eve are told to replenish the earth.
Stupid translation error? If so what else was screwed up in the translation?
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If people would stick with the language the bible is now written in this would not be a problem
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you guys never cease to amaze me.

sooo you take the translation of the translation of the translation of the translation of the translation of the translation (times 100) of allegedly god's word as the REAL WORD OF GOD(tm) just because it is convenient?
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So how many lexicon translations have their been?

Trying to go by "original" languages is silly considering that you have to read a lexicon (lots of different ones and version to choose from) to know it's meaning in English. Just read the established English version from 1611. The King James Authorized Version, originally called the Holy Bible.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Bah! Bah!

Yes, sheople! I hear you.

Many of you walk upright but your thoughts only walk on four legs and you graze.

Sheople to the left of me. Sheople to the right of me. Many of you bow, not to the Bible, but to the modern incantations and enterpretations of it. Many of you ignorantly oppose it. But, you don't oppose the Bible, you oppose the modern RELIGION around it.

The Bible is not about religion and rules.

Jesus came to free the slaves. I wonder how many times a day he facepalms over the stupidity of the people that claim to be his and the people who deride and defame them.

Some of you have a clue. Most of you are either religious delusionaries or anit-religious delusionaries.

To all my true bothers who really do understand, keep preaching. We may save some of them inspite of their willful ignorance!

Carry on!

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Genesis 1 is Summary

Genesis 2 is Detail

It is only difficult if you see with fleshly eyes.
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Okay, so maybe you have an answer for why Adam and Eve are told to replenish the earth.
Stupid translation error? If so what else was screwed up in the translation?
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Fleshly eyes? How do we see with fleshly eyes? Seriously, I have never know anyone with eyes made out of flesh? This is seriously fucked up.
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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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there is no such word as your "elohim" in the King James Version, the only Bible from which you can actually study, because the Strong's Concordance was written for The King James version ONLYtounge

Strike one
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Genesis 1:26 "Let US make man in OUR image".....
Is US and OUR like, Duh, plural.
Home run.
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hahahaha...
translating ancient documents isn't like mixing koolaid. it doesnt dilute and get watered down.
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oh isn't it.

I speak several languages where one word doesn't exist in another language, or only in an approximative or distorted manner. I've read several translations of the genesis next to each other, depending on what original text the translation was based on, and the language it was translated to, they were at times wildly different.

but ofc, I suck, the translations sucked, etc.

so convenient.

fact is ... linguistics isn't like drinking koolaid.
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Genesis 1 is Summary

Genesis 2 is Detail

It is only difficult if you see with fleshly eyes.
 Quoting: TidesofTruth


Okay, so maybe you have an answer for why Adam and Eve are told to replenish the earth.
Stupid translation error? If so what else was screwed up in the translation?
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"Replenish" is an old English word that USED to mean "to FILL" not necessarily to RE-FILL as it does today.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Is that the best you can do...a dancing bunny. I notice your avatar is candles burning by an open bible or is that Anton LaVey's satanic verses?
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Trying to go by "original" languages is silly.
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but trying to go by a random copy designated as the true word of god (ie. king james) is not? Who marked it the true word of god? god himself? ...seriously.
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The bible is a great book!

It can be used for many things. Some examples:

•It can be used to prop up uneven furniture
•To start fires when mixed with kindling
•As toilet paper when you unexpectedly run out (although, I'm not sure I want the filth and garbage contained on its pages to touch my anus, which by comparison is holy)
•As an erotic aid to gays - they love the story about Jee-zus! and the twelve poofs
•To roll cigarettes and/or huge fat doobies (even better) when you run out of ZigZags
•To beat the love of Jee-zus! into those that don't appreciate 'the word' being pissed into their ear. (You Christ-ians are a vicious and hateful people and love violence, or threatening that GOD will get us by proxy - cool story bro.)
•As a pron substitute for the puritanical repressed Jee-zus! freak - there are many fap-worthy lurid tales within, including incest.
•The torn out pages make excellent bird cage liner, or can be shredded to make pet bedding for small animals (e.g. guinea pigs)
•And many more...

Please, give me RED! I need BAD karma to get me to the dark side! They have cookies there you know :-D

Wait...I can still be saved...unless...I blaspheme against the HOLY SPIRIT! HOLY SPIRIT, SUCK MY FAT ONE!

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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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there is no such word as your "elohim" in the King James Version, the only Bible from which you can actually study, because the Strong's Concordance was written for The King James version ONLYtounge

Strike one
 Quoting: SwanSong 22453342


Genesis 1:26 "Let US make man in OUR image".....
Is US and OUR like, Duh, plural.
Home run.
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Are you not paying attention or something? God is ONE yet also THREE... This is the Triune Godhead, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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"No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the Lord; none of his descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall enter the assembly of the Lord."

God is jesus's father, but marry was married to joseph, so jesus is illegitimate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331259

there is no such word as your "illegitimate" in the Bible.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
wtf
No linky you stinky.

Strike two
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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01/02/2013 08:12 PM
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
Genesis 1 is Summary

Genesis 2 is Detail

It is only difficult if you see with fleshly eyes.
 Quoting: TidesofTruth


Okay, so maybe you have an answer for why Adam and Eve are told to replenish the earth.
Stupid translation error? If so what else was screwed up in the translation?
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Fleshly eyes? How do we see with fleshly eyes? Seriously, I have never know anyone with eyes made out of flesh? This is seriously fucked up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies!

How else are you gonna see without your glasses. But my glasses are made out of plastic.
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01/02/2013 08:14 PM
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Let me give you an example. Two least learned people were arguing with each other when a wiseman passed by and asked them the matter of their dispute. They said, we are arguing whether a Lion is born normally or whether it is born out of an egg. The wiseman reminded them the Lion is the Kingof the Jungle, by whatever biological process it is born, the Lion still remains the King of the Jungle.

So those of you disputing the absolute eminence of God are wasting your time. No matter how you may let your addleded imaginations run amuck, God is and shall always remain the most high King of the universe and all that is contained within it. It does not make a jot of a difference to Him how you morons may argue otherwise.
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01/02/2013 08:15 PM
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Trying to go by "original" languages is silly.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


but trying to go by a random copy designated as the true word of god (ie. king james) is not? Who marked it the true word of god? god himself? ...seriously.
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Random copy? Seriously what are you talking about?

The Holy Bible called by King James was based on the MAJORITY RECEIVED TEXT from THOUSANDS of manuscripts passed down by MANY church fathers everywhere.

You really should study the history of the bible and it's manuscripts.

HERE, i'll help, watch these two videos.. First is short and the second gets deep into it.




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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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01/02/2013 08:17 PM
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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23761823


Genesis is a clear plagiarism of some older Sumerian creation myths. Bible tards don't want to hear such things though. Shhh. Don't awaken the Jesus freaks!
 Quoting: kangablue




What part of "IN THE BEGINNING, GOD..." do you not understand. God was in the beginning, and in the beginning He created..." "older Sumerian myths" cannot be older than "in the beginning".....
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01/02/2013 08:17 PM
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Are you not paying attention or something? God is ONE yet also THREE... This is the Triune Godhead, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Imagine if he was FOUR. Minds could be blown. And don't get me started on what could happen if he was FIVE OR MORE
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01/02/2013 08:18 PM
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The bible is a great book!

It can be used for many things. Some examples:

•It can be used to prop up uneven furniture
•To start fires when mixed with kindling
•As toilet paper when you unexpectedly run out (although, I'm not sure I want the filth and garbage contained on its pages to touch my anus, which by comparison is holy)
•As an erotic aid to gays - they love the story about Jee-zus! and the twelve poofs
•To roll cigarettes and/or huge fat doobies (even better) when you run out of ZigZags
•To beat the love of Jee-zus! into those that don't appreciate 'the word' being pissed into their ear. (You Christ-ians are a vicious and hateful people and love violence, or threatening that GOD will get us by proxy - cool story bro.)
•As a pron substitute for the puritanical repressed Jee-zus! freak - there are many fap-worthy lurid tales within, including incest.
•The torn out pages make excellent bird cage liner, or can be shredded to make pet bedding for small animals (e.g. guinea pigs)
•And many more...

Please, give me RED! I need BAD karma to get me to the dark side! They have cookies there you know :-D

Wait...I can still be saved...unless...I blaspheme against the HOLY SPIRIT! HOLY SPIRIT, SUCK MY FAT ONE!

rockons226
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And the best thing of all...most churches give them away free. That's right. Just go up to the welcome desk and tell them you need a Bible. They'll give you one. Come back next week and do the same. Bring your friends and family. They can get Bibles too. Then you can have lots of small animal bedding and toilet paper for FREE.
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Genesis 1:26 the sons of El created all human races and in Genesis 2 the "et Ha Adam" was created meaning to show blood in the face. The et ha'adam is a particular man ,he is not the same as the humans in Genesis 1.
And the Elohim is not a Trinity godhead this is false. But the Elohim are the sons of El.
Some call this teaching about the two human races, racism but it is what it is.
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01/02/2013 08:19 PM
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The Holy Bible called by King James was based on the MAJORITY RECEIVED TEXT from THOUSANDS of manuscripts passed down by MANY church fathers everywhere.

You really should study the history of the bible and it's manuscripts.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


So it's not the real word of god, but was decided to be so, selected from THOUSANDS of variants by a majority decision made by church fathers everywhere? Word of God was subject to a democratic vote? You're confusing me.
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It's called the Godhead. The Hebrew word 'Elohim' is both singular and plural, referring to the Godhead of the Father and Jesus Christ. Both were involved in the act of Creation, however, it was Jesus Christ who spoke the words and formed man.
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Well that's a lie. Elohim is no both plural and singular. End of that bullshit.
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01/02/2013 08:22 PM

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Genesis 1 is Summary

Genesis 2 is Detail

It is only difficult if you see with fleshly eyes.
 Quoting: TidesofTruth


+100

Nice research OP. Nice work to set out to try and discredit something that is obviously beyond you. There's nothing wrong with that if you had intentions to find the truth and learn where your knowledge ends. Your intention is totally from another place. Thanks for your scholarly work and way to condemn yourself with child-like statements. Since you have it figured out, good luck!
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The Holy Bible called by King James was based on the MAJORITY RECEIVED TEXT from THOUSANDS of manuscripts passed down by MANY church fathers everywhere.

You really should study the history of the bible and it's manuscripts.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


So it's not the real word of god, but was decided to be so, selected from THOUSANDS of variants by a majority decision made by church fathers everywhere? Word of God was subject to a democratic vote? You're confusing me.
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btw even logged in for you so you can put a name to what you probably think is trolling (it isn't as such).
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The Holy Bible called by King James was based on the MAJORITY RECEIVED TEXT from THOUSANDS of manuscripts passed down by MANY church fathers everywhere.

You really should study the history of the bible and it's manuscripts.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


So it's not the real word of god, but was decided to be so, selected from THOUSANDS of variants by a majority decision made by church fathers everywhere? Word of God was subject to a democratic vote? You're confusing me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 225644


Those thousands of manuscripts agree in almost all cases, whereas almost all variation were due to spelling errors.

Anything else you add to that is ONLY of your OWN opinion.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26

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