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Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.

 
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My point is that the KJV is based on the Majority Received Text of Hebrew and Greek manuscripts translated into English and the English of the KJV also lines up almost exactly with all the previous English versions as well.
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you ARE aware that the Hebrew, not to mention the Greek scripts were already translations, yes? and that English in the 17th had evolved over the number of centuries before?

And no, I can not tell you if and / or which of the main German variants are based on the Septuaginta, and I assume you are also aware that very few of those text fragments are still existing, so basing anything on those precious few remaining text fragments while claiming the original Septuaginta was the real basis for the KJ variant is a bit spurious.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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you guys dont know shit we came about bye means of need its called evo baby!Im thinking we once were tadpoles or atleast our god should be Cornnelius from the movie the planet of the apes.Fuck off bibletards
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Let the buthurt flow through you Jee-zus! freaks tounge

Oh, and I don't know how to tell you this but...Jesus hates you ;-)

Only one bad karma so far? Where's the hate I mean love :-D
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I'm a gun toting bible believing American redneck and would love to exercise my second amendment rights against the likes of you're kind......anytime
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LOL! You would actually KILL me, over some silly words that I posted on a forum, which are OBVIOUSLY intended to stir up the simple minded, like you? You sir/madam are one truly sick individual.

Wow, I didn't know that the second amendment gave you the RIGHT to KILL a person for saying/typing something which you find abhorrent and offensive. Oh wait, that's not what it's for? You truly are THICK aren't you? You don't even understand your own freaking constitution! O.O

I've met many lovely Christians, NONE of which would wish to kill me over something so trivial as my post. If anything, they would feel sorry for me, thinking that I am damned etc and would probably even pray for me, that I might find Jesus etc. The smug and self-righteous Christian would probably just ignore my post and say "Oh well, the lake of fire for you buddy, you fool." Are you sure you're not a MUSLIM?

Unless that was a little troll post, in which case, well played sir :-D

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My point is that the KJV is based on the Majority Received Text of Hebrew and Greek manuscripts translated into English and the English of the KJV also lines up almost exactly with all the previous English versions as well.
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you ARE aware that the Hebrew, not to mention the Greek scripts were already translations, yes? and that English in the 17th had evolved over the number of centuries before?

And no, I can not tell you if and / or which of the main German variants are based on the Septuaginta, and I assume you are also aware that very few of those text fragments are still existing, so basing anything on those precious few remaining text fragments while claiming the original Septuaginta was the real basis for the KJ variant is a bit spurious.
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PLEASE, watch these two videos, then get back to me...



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And if you want evenm more info watch videos here...

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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As for me, I like the first story the best.
The Gods create everything it is Good and Gets Blessed. The Gods rest. End of Story. No Rules or Regulations. No Evil or Death. I like this story a lot. Verse 29 even makes All seed bearing herbs legal. Roll a joint or a cig and smoke 'em up...the Gods gave it to us. End of Story. I am gonna go with this story as the truth. It makes sense and is cool. Just tear this small starting section out and discard the rest. It is all full of meanness and crap anyway. Throw it away. Get rid of it. The Gods made ME in THEIR image and blessed me. End of Story.
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PLEASE, watch these two videos, then get back to me...
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explain to me in your own words why you think what I'm saying is wrong, or don't bother, but I'm not in a mood to watch lengthy youtube videos right now. Actually I should have hit the sack a while ago.

Ok I tried the first vid and stopped when he talked about all those christians "carrying their copies of their bibles with them" (1:10)

seeing neither Luther nor Gutenberg were around that time ... but yea, they probably carried around 20kg of Papyrus scrolls.

seriously.
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Very interesting vid....thanks :D


Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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Not a lie, just misunderstood.

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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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How does this make it a lie.

It makes the preachers liars, not the Bible.
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why does G_d need to rest?
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As for me, I like the first story the best.
The Gods create everything it is Good and Gets Blessed. The Gods rest. End of Story. No Rules or Regulations. No Evil or Death. I like this story a lot. Verse 29 even makes All seed bearing herbs legal. Roll a joint or a cig and smoke 'em up...the Gods gave it to us. End of Story. I am gonna go with this story as the truth. It makes sense and is cool. Just tear this small starting section out and discard the rest. It is all full of meanness and crap anyway. Throw it away. Get rid of it. The Gods made ME in THEIR image and blessed me. End of Story.
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Then you will be getting rid of God's love and redemption of man which would be a real sad shame.

God came down and dwelt among us and died for us to save us from ourselves/our sin/damnation. All you have to do is accept the free gift and put your belief/trust in HIM, Jesus Christ the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God, the one who died for you and for me and then rose again the third day.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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As for me, I like the first story the best.
The Gods create everything it is Good and Gets Blessed. The Gods rest. End of Story. No Rules or Regulations. No Evil or Death. I like this story a lot. Verse 29 even makes All seed bearing herbs legal. Roll a joint or a cig and smoke 'em up...the Gods gave it to us. End of Story. I am gonna go with this story as the truth. It makes sense and is cool. Just tear this small starting section out and discard the rest. It is all full of meanness and crap anyway. Throw it away. Get rid of it. The Gods made ME in THEIR image and blessed me. End of Story.
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So you're going to base your theories on Creation and God on your desire to get stoned?

Good thinkin' man.
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why does G_d need to rest?
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Rest simply means that he stopped working on creating.Not that he rested because he was weary.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I bring you not One, not Two but Three, that's right Three Gods in One. What a bargain you gonna get tonight. Not just one God, but Three for the price of One. Not just One or Two but Three, Three, Three for the price of One. Step right up. Who will be the first to purchase.

Does God have Multiple Personality Disorder?
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Can I buy the holy ghost alone?
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LOL If you can catch him!
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Perhaps he creates a special race of man.
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Or like the hippie said praying to-
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You Jesus haters are so ridiculous. Your knees will bow before him before you are cast down with your father Satan
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Why do you care so much about what other people believe?
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I understand and have written eloquently on the subject including definitions, direct quotes from the original hebrew and footnotes.
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Citations, please.
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LOL If you can catch him!
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and here me was hoping you'd catch it for me, since you're selling ...
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Multiple Authors in Genesis?
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Only if you allow God to be the writer of 1 and the Holy Spirit to be the writer of 2.

Are Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 written by multiple authors, thus producing contradictions? A careful study of the text shows that Genesis 2 is merely a more detailed account of the short Genesis 1 narrative describing the creation of human beings.
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G:2 starts with the breath of life being in Adam and his experience with seeing life come to the garden area as defined in that 2nd account. The rest of the world saw life develop over about 4B years as that is when day 1 ended, 400,000,000 for the end of day 1, 40,000,000 for day 2, 4,000,000 for day 3, 400,000 for day 4, 40,000 for day 5, 40,000 for day 6, 4,000 (BC) for the end of day 7.

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Genesis chapters one and two describe the creation of the universe, the earth, and life on the earth. Some have said that these accounts are purely mythology. One of the reasons for this perception is because of the apparent contradiction between chapters one and two in the creation accounts. Chapter one describes the creation of plants followed by the creation of animals then humans. Chapter two seems to describe the creation of humans followed by the creation of plants then animals. If this assessment is true, it would seem that there is a contradiction between the creation accounts of Genesis 1 and 2.
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As stated, Ge:1 is for the whole planet, Ge:2 is for just the garden area, Something like Mt. St. Helen's recovery, first came moisture.

Genesis one

Genesis one, the first chapter of the Bible, begins with the creation of the "heavens and earth"1 - a phrase that describes the entire universe. The Genesis one account is notable for being sequential, since the events are listed numerically by the day in which they occurred. Where does this creation take place? Locations mentioned include the heavens (the Hebrew termshamayim can refer to the atmosphere, interstellar space, or God's abode),2 earth (the Hebrew term erets can refer to the entire planet, a people group, or a local piece of geography),3 Sun, moon, and stars.4 How do we know the Hebrew term erets refers to the entire planet as opposed to local geography? Verse 2 describes the "surface of the deep,"5 which describes the primordial ocean.6 Subsequent verses indicate that there was no land until God caused it to appear from the midst of the waters.7 These facts, in the absence of specific place names, suggests that Genesis one describes creation on a global scale.
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Day/night cycles are global, earth had rotation around itself. It was not until the end of day 4 that the rotation around itself and around the sun that days a we know them existed.

Genesis 1 vs. 2?

Besides describing the formation of land and seas, Genesis one describes the creation of plants and animals. The account begins with the creation on plants. Following this is the creation of birds, large sea creatures and swarming sea life. On the final "day," God creates the large grazing mammals and carnivores, along with small scurrying mammals. Creation culminates with the creation of mankind - the last creatures God creates. For a more detailed explanation, see The Literal Interpretation of the Genesis One Creation Account and Day-Age Genesis One Interpretation.
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Creepy crawly things are forest dwellers so they would have existed when trees did. They are not mentioned because they were not the important event in day 3.

Genesis two

Contrary to what many "scholars" have reported, Genesis two is not a retelling of Genesis one. How can we determine this to be true? First, we should examine the overall context. Genesis two is considerably different in regard to the emphasis of the content. Genesis one dedicates 4 verses (13%) to the creation of humans, beginning with verse 26. However, Genesis two dedicates 19 verses (76%) to the creation of humans, beginning with verse 7. Actually, since there are no real chapter breaks in the original Hebrew manuscripts, the story of the creation of humans continues throughout chapter 3 (another 24 verses). Obviously, the emphasis of the two "versions" is quite different. Part of the problem understanding this passage is because of the poor choice of English words in the common translations. The Hebrew word erets can be translated as "earth" (meaning global) or "land" (referring to a local geographical area). In the Old Testament, erets almost always refers to local geography and not the planet as a whole. We need to examine the context to determine whether erets refers to the entire earth or only a portion of it.
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The rest of the world was full of life except for land animals, the garden area didn't flourish because moisture had been withheld, when exiled from the garden area moisture was again withheld and the Dead Sea was created as it was once a fresh water lake, just as it will be again after the return. (Eze:47)

In contrast to Genesis one, there are no indications that the text is referring to global creation. In fact, Genesis 2 begins with God planting a garden8 in a place called Eden, whose location is described in the text that follows. In all, there are three other place names mentioned along with four rivers (verses 10-14). The second place name is Havilah, which is thought to be near the Caspian Sea.9 The third is Cush, which is thought to be a location in Southern Egypt or Ethiopia.10 The fourth is Assyria, which constitutes modern Iraq and Iran.11 Of the four rivers described in the text, only two are definitively identifiable. The Tigris12 and Euphrates13 Rivers run though Iraq and Iran. All the events of Genesis 2 occur in Eden, which is bounded by the three other locations, putting it within the Mesopotamian flood plain.
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Except it is called 'the earth' and day\night is global event as is clouds as being the 'upper firmament'. Euphrates marks the northern boundary.


The narrative continues with descriptions of creation events. Adam was placed in the garden to cultivate it. God brought to Adam the animals He had already created for him to name.14 Since a suitable companion was not found for Adam, God created Eve.15 The narrative concludes with the initiation of the first marriage.16 All the creation descriptions in Genesis two can be attributed to the preparation of a place in which the first humans would live. Therefore, Genesis two further develops the account of mankind's creation at the end of the sixth day.
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Adam could have been created at the beginning of day 6 but Eve only came along at the very end and she never had God speak to her.

Conclusion

Genesis 1 is the account of the creation of the universe and life on planet earth as it happened in chronological sequence. Genesis 2 is simply an expanded explanation of the events that occurred at the end of the sixth creation day - when God created human beings. Genesis one provides virtually no details about the creation of human beings (other than the idea that humans were created in the image of God). For a book that is dedicated to the relationship between humans and God, four verses seems like a rather poor explanation for the creation of God's preeminent creature. This is because Genesis one was never intended to stand apart from Genesis 2 and 3. Genesis 2 describes God's preparation of a specific location on earth (Eden) for habitation by the first human beings. Part of the confusion results from our English translations, which use the term "earth" when the Hebrew would better be translated "land." Read a modified NIV translation of the Genesis 2 account to see how the text should read.

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Earth is the correct term, verified in Christ's witness of creation.


Proverb:8:22:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
Proverb:8:23:
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.

Proverb:8:30:
Then I was by him,
as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him;
Proverb:8:31:
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.

God relationship with men can also be concluded by reading Re:20-22 to go along with Ge:1-3.

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maybe it is a puzzle.

a god given riddle, perfect for a forum such as this.

we read genesis, and come away with various understanding. beliefs, and yes, disbelief. and if we are wise, we temper our understanding with the opinions , and logic presented by our fellow cryptographers.

it may be that god made these answers elusive for a purpose?
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Maybe some people WANT it to be "elusive" or "mysterious" for some reason because honestly the answers are simple and right there if you want to know.

Read my previous post
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thank you for your response.

your opinions are intriguing, lovely additions to the wondrous cosmos of various beliefs and ideas.

you encourage me to listen to everyones thoughts, and see them as valid contributions.
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christians u cant change the wording to fit your own views, it does not work that way. christianity is a lie, end of.
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PLEASE, watch these two videos, then get back to me...
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explain to me in your own words why you think what I'm saying is wrong, or don't bother, but I'm not in a mood to watch lengthy youtube videos right now. Actually I should have hit the sack a while ago.

Ok I tried the first vid and stopped when he talked about all those christians "carrying their copies of their bibles with them" (1:10)

seeing neither Luther nor Gutenberg were around that time ... but yea, they probably carried around 20kg of Papyrus scrolls.

seriously.
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Dudes name is Gipp. Beware. Get Gipped.
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Dudes name is Gipp. Beware. Get Gipped.
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I think I'll finally go to bed before getting gipped. I'll try to reply tomorrow if anyone feels so inclined to respond to a previous post.
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No Credible Bible scholar takes the Bible seriously they no its truth with mixed with mythology and Jewish legends.
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Jewish legends were fabricated and spilled into original old testament during 4th century B.C onwards.

If you read the Pure Old testament,christians would lower their head in shame.
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In the Masoretic Hebrew text, there is no word "Trinity" found. And the word Trinity is not in the English translation. Trinity can be found in Pagan origins such as the Babylonians,Egyptians,Sumerians. The first humanism Trinity record to be setup and worshiped as gods, was that of Ba'al,Ishtar and Tammuz. I believe the Trinity was adopted by the Nicaea council into the church.

Now Elohim does not mean "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" this is false.
Elohim is of Canaanite origins and means the "Sons of El" our as the Christians call them Angels.
So one can read Genesis 1:1 as"In the beginning the Sons of El created the heavens and earth.

Now you can read in Proverbs 8 the whole chapter the Wisdom was in the beginning with Elohim.
In some Myths Wisdom is a Female goddess like the Greek Sophia or Athena.

Now for the two Creation stories in the Book of Genesis we can learn a lot by the Hebrew text.
Now In Genesis 1:26 we read"And Elohim said, "Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

So it was on this sixth day that both man and woman of all races were formed, and each after their kind. Yet all forms of mankind red, yellow, black [brown], or white are all created in the image of God and His sons.

Now in Genesis 2:7 "And YAHU Elohim formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

The word "formed" is used [molded as clay] to describe the making of Adam. When man was formed he became a living creature. In the Hebrew it is "eth-ha-adham", which refers to the particular person "Adam", (not a generic form for man).

Genesis 2:8 "(And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed."

In this "Eden" which God had formed, He put "eth-ha adham" [not any man, but "the Adam"]. This is the man "Adam" formed from clay in Genesis 2:7, and not the "male and female" of the races of the sixth day creation of Genesis 1:27-28. Eden is a special place that God made, following the seventh day of rest, for a special man called Adam.
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JESUS CHRIST 'MAY HAVE SUFFERED FROM MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS', CLAIMS CHURCH OF ENGLAND

It reads: "Many of the people we read about in Bible stories might today be considered as having mental health issues.

"For example, ‘Would Jesus’ family maybe on occasion have said, ‘Cousin John is a bit odd, bless him!’ when John the Baptist took to his eccentric style of life?

"It has long been thought that King Saul, in the books of Samuel, was displaying mood swings that suggest he had bi-polar disorder and some think that St Paul’s Damascus Road experience was the result of some sort of breakdown or psychotic episode


Loons the lot of them
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Dont listen to anyone.Do what Mr No more lies suggests.All your false judgements will humble you.did me.Those that search end up needing nothing or nobody.Liberation my friend what your screaming for.

We live in a world that is full lies.
Turn on the T.V. Lies
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Go to church. Lies
Every where there are lies.

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"No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the Lord; none of his descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall enter the assembly of the Lord."

God is jesus's father, but marry was married to joseph, so jesus is illegitimate.
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Yes he was a bastard, because he had no living father at birth.
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The word "illegtimate" isnot in the Bible.

The word "bastard" means "mongrel" or "incest", but mostly "mongrel".
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No Credible Bible scholar takes the Bible seriously they no its truth with mixed with mythology and Jewish legends.
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Jewish legends were fabricated and spilled into original old testament during 4th century B.C onwards.

If you read the Pure Old testament,christians would lower their head in shame.
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JESUS CHRIST 'MAY HAVE SUFFERED FROM MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS', CLAIMS CHURCH OF ENGLAND

It reads: "Many of the people we read about in Bible stories might today be considered as having mental health issues.

"For example, ‘Would Jesus’ family maybe on occasion have said, ‘Cousin John is a bit odd, bless him!’ when John the Baptist took to his eccentric style of life?

"It has long been thought that King Saul, in the books of Samuel, was displaying mood swings that suggest he had bi-polar disorder and some think that St Paul’s Damascus Road experience was the result of some sort of breakdown or psychotic episode


Loons the lot of them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19347441


Dont listen to anyone.Do what Mr No more lies suggests.All your false judgements will humble you.did me.Those that search end up needing nothing or nobody.Liberation my friend what your screaming for.

We live in a world that is full lies.
Turn on the T.V. Lies
Turn on the Radio. Lies
Read a news paper. Lies
Go online. Lies
Go to church. Lies
Every where there are lies.

Know thy self, and tell no lies.
 Quoting: No more lies 2279379


Word Brother Word !
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How do you get to know thyself, go within.

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