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Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.

 
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Quote -The Yahweh God that you worship has been known through many generations as Zeus, Jupiter, etc, and yes this Yahweh God has been used by 'these people' to control everyone around the planet.

This is spirit of the antichrist talk. The coming antichrist will fool the unbelieving in a one world religion. He is referred to in scripture as apollyon. This is a derivative of apollo, the false sungod. The stage is set with a demon who wants to be god of the world as zeus and a false son of god apollo and a false prophet petrus romanus to reverse the foundation church which Peter was the rock.
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You are free to call people like us Antichrists. But 'That Day' will come and when 'That Day' is your 'Day' you will realize that it is too late for you to undo your believe.

Unlike other prophesied days, 'That Day' is not prophesied in your bible or other religions. 'that day' is when you will discover the true answer.
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The best way to know whether if bible (OT and some parts of NT) is evil or not is to imagine yourself as God

Then next you want to ask yourself these questions:
What kind of world you want to create if you were God?
Will you punish your own creations?
Will you take the immortality away from your creations and replace it with suffering (hungriness, tiredness, thirstiness, etc)?
Will you let your creations to live in ignorance (not giving them knowledge)?
Will you just give your love to one nation (like israel)?

There are so many questions in that bible (mostly in OT) you can use to question yourself.

Depends on the answers, there are two outcomes: you will realize that you are being blinded by bibles and churches or you will be happy to accept the illusion of God served to you by 'these people'

The Yahweh God that you worship has been known through many generations as Zeus, Jupiter, etc, and yes this Yahweh God has been used by 'these people' to control everyone around the planet.

That was why gnostics (like Plato etc) appeared to challenge them.
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It would seem you are quite proficient at imagining yourself as God and have succeeded in doing so in your very small yet vain mind.

Lucifer did the same thing.
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The best way to know whether if bible (OT and some parts of NT) is evil or not is to imagine yourself as God

Then next you want to ask yourself these questions:
What kind of world you want to create if you were God?
Will you punish your own creations?
Will you take the immortality away from your creations and replace it with suffering (hungriness, tiredness, thirstiness, etc)?
Will you let your creations to live in ignorance (not giving them knowledge)?
Will you just give your love to one nation (like israel)?
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Israel was a man, the patriarch. Fail.

The best way to know whether if bible (OT and some parts of NT) is evil or not is to imagine yourself as God

Then next you want to ask yourself these questions:
What kind of world you want to create if you were God?
Will you punish your own creations?
Will you take the immortality away from your creations and replace it with suffering (hungriness, tiredness, thirstiness, etc)?
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... let them rule … Genesis 1:26

Fail.
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You are free to call people like us Antichrists. But 'That Day' will come and when 'That Day' is your 'Day' you will realize that it is too late for you to undo your believe.

Unlike other prophesied days, 'That Day' is not prophesied in your bible or other religions. 'that day' is when you will discover the true answer.
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"That Day" will come when you will be judged and you will forever throughout eternity have ample time to reconsider your ungodly beliefs.

Unfortunately there are no "do overs".

You will realize that it is too late for you to undo your believe.
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You are free to call people like us Antichrists. But 'That Day' will come and when 'That Day' is your 'Day' you will realize that it is too late for you to undo your believe.

Unlike other prophesied days, 'That Day' is not prophesied in your bible or other religions. 'that day' is when you will discover the true answer.
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The truth, the light and the way is Jesus Christ. You are fooling yourself with anything else. I think I will post something I posted in another thread to show you what is at work on this earth.

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Here's something from another thread, but it should be a body of evidence for you that the odds of this occurring by chance would be 1:a ridiculously high number.

Our Father Jesus Christ, said there was something greater than Solomon here. It is him. He is the truth, the light and the way. Solomon was the wisest man in terms of earth knowledge; so something in terms of the powers of the earth had to be overcome for that to be true. I suggest you make a decision to find Jesus and ask for forgiveness today. Myself and alot of other people have made that decision and know the truth.

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Solomon was a man of God who through being human ultimately failed. While he was the wisest man on earth in history he was still a fool before God.

With that being said, for Solomon to be the wisest and still mortal, he has to have power over satan and the spirit of antichrist. Obviously, what is here in concept is mortal and temporal with the whole point being darkness trying to tempt God's creation to inhabit a vessel in a three dimensional matrix that fails completely. The only hope of redemption is through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Logic dictates that the number of man for this time as stated in Revelation is something that deals with the spirit of the antichrist. Therefore, if God is the author of life, and his Son is our Savior then a warfront would be created at the edge of eternal life itself.

My research and visions on this subject are quite extensive, and I will summarize what I have found on this subject to a Reader's Digest type version.

The point our OP made about Solomon receiving 666 gold talents per year is important and symbolic. It indicates a power (even if for a short time) resided in the hands of a Man of God. I am quite sure the exercise of this was to the displeasure of satan. Even in the end of its use though, Solomon died. But it gives us a clue to what is really going on here.

There are two ways to calculate the mark of the beast, and after you see what I have found in addition to what has been presented before you will see that it is virtually impossible for this to occur by coincidence. One method is the gematria version where 6 is added for each letter and summed, and a second form where A to Z is assigned 1 to 26 values and reduced to one number per word by addition of letter values. I will use both methods.

The three dimensional form of the Star of David is also called the Holy Merkaba. It stands to reason that the Author of Life would use a seed of life. It is a centerpiece of the flag of his chosen people. Use the first method on "Holy Merkaba", and you will be shocked to find that in addition to the obvious of it being two dimensionally represented as a six pointed star, it also has the sum of 666. If man of flesh is mortal, then it is easy to see when temptation is accepted that this is a crossroads of sorts where the decision is to look into darkness as opposed to light occurs.

For interpretation from a human perspective looking at the spiritual battleground, this is at the very forefront of the battle where the seed of life is. This easily explains why satan acquired the name lucifer to be a false light bearer of this world.

What I have been given over the years is an understanding of what this number means here on earth. It states in the bible that unless the days are shortened no flesh will be saved, but for the elect's sake it will be. OK, apparently God finds at least some flesh worthy to be saved in these endtimes. He also feels for that to occur then days must be shortened. Why? Let's see what a current day whose design in antiquity yields in the second method of numerology. 60 seconds = 1 minute. 6 + 0 = 6. 60 minutes = 1 hour 6 + 0 = 6. 24 hours = 1 day 2 + 4 = 6. Thus, the components of the day yield 666. You have to ask yourself why we would use sixes to begin with when most of the measurements systems in place today use a decimal system with increments of ten.

This goes further in dark design. As a result of spiritual conflict the very words you utter for good or bad come forth. This is evident in the method of destruction used by the darkside to both hack and reverse language. A few examples are as follows: live to evil, lived to devil, time to emit, suez to zeus, love to evolution, a sonoma (bohemian grove area) the hacking of The Son of Man.

Let's look at the letter X. It is the 24th letter of the alphabet, and in my opinion the key to revealing the antichrist that is to come and his dark works. He is said to be a man of perdition; so, by his methods he would be known. For that to occur in the form of the abomination of desolation immorality would have to be overt. For this to occur, the throngs of humanity would need to be primed in darkness. This is already taking place with pornography which is known by XXX which is sometimes used in jest to name poison. X is the 24th letter of the alphabet 2 + 4 = 6; so, again you see the number 666 is derived.

Now, if you believe three dimensional prison is before you then the word matrix takes new meaning. Man cut to "ma" and tri X or three Xs. Again 666. This is further enforced by the observation of the letter naming of the sex chromosomes. If sin went into woman first, then logic would dictate that darknesses methods would be to destroy man through woman to a degree. You have two X chromosomes and one in man. If he looks into lust, then the XXX (666) is formed, and if looks towards the Y then a 7 is formed 2 +5 = 7. My contention is this is a matrix because the episode of our Savior walking on water and Peter for a brief instant was actually walking in the truth.

The X has been used throughout history. We have X replacing Christ in Christmas. Why? We have a day of worship Sunday that is not consistent with the bible. So you have a symbol "X" that in some versions of the bible states that the condemned will have their foreheads marked with the X and dresses in sackcloth and ashes as they march through the streets of Jerusalem.

To me it clearly indicates a method is being set in place to usher in the antichrist. he will be called apollyon a derivative for the sun god apollo and son of false god zeus (suez). The primary day of worship is already "Sun" day and the very day used to observe our Savior's birth is now called "X"mas that in many cases is a cursed symbol.

Just look at the tv shows with X being used and on two that I know of three Xs are used either above or on the stages. This last generation is "X". And even the Union Jack has the cross breaking the X which would indicate a victory of Christ over the antichrist. This same pattern exists in the plaza at the Vatican. Look at Nostradamus' drawings.

I used the calculator someone posted in another thread to bring up some of the words that added to a value of 666 using the first method. It is quite startling.

GMO wheats 666 (manipulation of bread of life)
Jet stream 666 (manipulation of weather)
HIV carrier 666
helicopter 666
jet airplane 666
computer 666
drug wars 666
fluoridate 666 (poison water supply)
New Mexico 666 only state I know of with 666 hwy and numerous top secret places including the Roswell crash.
illusion 666
Deustchland 666
Cabo San Lucas 666 (land's end?}
blood stain 666
sex magicks 666
gehenna fires 666
America sins 666
demonistic 666
Marylander 666
pentagons 666
Fort Sill 666
dark matter 666
morgellon 666
peninsula 666 ( clue to land most likely to be threatened in judgment?)
Sun City 666 ( I find this interesting that one poster was making a claim to an attack on Phoenix (hacked word for Phoenician "X" condemned foreheads symbol and word for firebird) is a suburb of that city) I don't want to be an alarmist here. Personally, I don't see anything happening there. Just thought this was a little strange.
San Fernando 666
San Clemente 666
Yosemite 666 (Strange activities and disappearances have taken place there)
human bodies 666
black panther 666
electrons 666
atomic chart 666
I even have the name of the man that fits this mold. Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. So; obviously, he was here, is now gone, but will return. We also know that there will be a mortal headwound involving the right eye and shoulder. Then they will be miraculoulsy healed. Apparently, what was here will possess something that dies with dark resurrection. I'll discuss that later if anyone is interested.

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Op, your absolutely right, the bible is full off lies and contradictions and not divine at all.
You might vind this link helpfull, it sums almost all those things up for the whole bible.

[link to skepticsannotatedbible.com]

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Op, your absolutely right, the bible is full off lies and contradictions and not divine at all.
You might vind this link helpfull, it sums almost all those things up for the whole bible.

[link to skepticsannotatedbible.com]

Greetings Fred Flintstone
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Isn't it possible for someone to create a REASON for ANYTHING? If you want to find contradictions you will find them but they will only exist in the mind and not always in reality.

In the end people will believe what they WISH to believe.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Op, your absolutely right, the bible is full off lies and contradictions and not divine at all.
You might vind this link helpfull, it sums almost all those things up for the whole bible.

[link to skepticsannotatedbible.com]

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Hey Fred, most interesting. Suggest all reading this post go and check it out. Those that have an open mind, that is.
Have you noticed that Not one of these posters have the cojones to challenge the two different creation accounts. Sure, they babble on about Jesus and Revelation, et al, but simply ignore the issue.

The mind is like a parachute...it works best when open.
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Op, your absolutely right, the bible is full off lies and contradictions and not divine at all.
You might vind this link helpfull, it sums almost all those things up for the whole bible.

[link to skepticsannotatedbible.com]

Greetings Fred Flintstone
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Isn't it possible for someone to create a REASON for ANYTHING? If you want to find contradictions you will find them but they will only exist in the mind and not always in reality.

In the end people will believe what they WISH to believe.
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Yeah, you are right that everyone has to believe what he wants, but it is also true that people rather believe lies then vind out the truth.

Greetings Fred
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Op, I don't think that the true believers in the bible would look into that, just because there not openminded.

You maybe also find it imteresting to look into the Moses/Akhenaten/Aten connection.

Greetings Fred
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Thank you all for the information from John, Jesus, Jehovah, Paul, Corinthians, Romans, Revelation, and damn near every book in the bible EXCEPT FOR GENESIS 1:1 to 2:4 and outward. Do you understand that NONE of the above mentioned would even exist without the foundation of the piece of literature starting with Genesis 1? If indeed, Genesis presents two different versions of creation, then one of them has to be a LIE. Therefore, John, Jesus, Jehovah etc. are all a LIE also because they are based on a lie.
What is a lie?
definition of lie: to create a false or misleading impression

What is truth?
A statement proven to be or accepted as true.

If the two stories (statements) differ then one must be a LIE. Got it?
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Why would you use the word Jehovah?. No point to continue with your thread. I know you.

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Ok. So I read the first 3 chapters in my KJV Concordance bible and this is my take on the first 2 chapters of Genesis. They are contradictory. But only if you take the 7 "days" seriously. If we took those 7 "days" and stretched them over a thousand years or so each it would make more sense that there were two beginnings. The one in which a set of Gods-or those that were like Gods in the fact that they had strength and power and eternal life-created beings both male and female and set them free to do as they liked. And the one that hosted Adam and Eve with only one God present. This particular God had many servants and sons and was very strict.

If we take these two beginnings and realize they are both truth then we are more than likely of the one God of Adam. The beginning that was before that time had already taken its course and was long gone by then, having left behind stone structures of their understanding of the universe and time behind for us to wonder about. Yes, I'm talking about the pyramids and what lies beneath them. I'm talking cities like the one found in Georgia in early 2012-cached-
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People don't want to believe that God is non-existent. Or that there may be more than one God. It goes against everything humans have been taught-save the Illuminati and secret sub-cultures that didn't end in mass suicides. The truth is the Bible was written by MAN. From a MAN's perspective. Heck, we don't even get Mary's version of her world. Because the feminine must be squelched if we are to live in the world of MAN. The feminine must not be marred anymore by the lies in the Bible. Eve was tempted by what seems to me to be a male-sided entity. Was it a snake? An alien? A left-over from the world that was before? Perhaps it was Lilith in another form. Possibly even in Adam's form. We don't know because Eve never talked about it save to say it was a snake. We are to assume that it is a snake-God's creation. If it was of God's creation surely it was a servant of God gone wrong. Some believe it was the fallen angel Lucifer but they never say in the first few chapters.

As for the 3rd chapter what we glean is that before Eve there was only Adam. And he slept for quite a bit after naming lots of things and having surgery. Was this to give Eve time to be cloned? If this were the case wouldn't there have to be technology? After all, they did say that it took quite awhile to "make" Eve, enough time that they had to put Adam into a deep sleep.

Do I see contradiction here? Yes. Do chapters one and two agree with one another? No. One mentions day one through day six. The other only mentions day seven. This allows me to believe a lot-and I mean thousands and thousands of years-are between them. This Earth and everything on it is far older than our history books have ever allowed us to know. If you knew what the Illuminati knew you would definitely want answers. This is the reason why they do what they do. They are trying to hold you back from your birthright. Religious war is a concept that men in power created. We need to stop warring with one another and realize that we were stripped of our true history by a book that is said to be true and the teachings of those who KILLED people in the name of God for having their own opinion of Him when it clearly states in the book, that is supposed to be holy, that we were created to have free will of choice to believe what we want without any fear of consequence save the loss of God's grace. Those that have killed for their religious beliefs have clearly not believed the religious texts that they were fighting for.
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It seems to me your original question was addressed early on although you cannot or just refuse to accept that.

This will be my last post as this thread is pointless and a complete waste of space and time.

I Corinthians 2:14

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Having said that, I have said a prayer for you OP as well as your entourage that shares your mindset, that you will embrace the Truth before you take your last breath and you are eternally lost forever.

God said His Word shall not return void. Even as you read these verses shaking your head in disbelief, they (His Word) are being deposited into your heart.

Next time you are at a beach, pick up a handful of sand and examine the grains of sand within. Then imagine all the beaches of the world and the sand that lies on them. Your handful along with all other beaches is just the beginning of eternity.

You better hope your thinking is right or you'll have a very long period of time to ponder your mistake.

I'm out
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Thank you Kissplash. Good reasoning and to the point.
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It seems to me your original question was addressed early on although you cannot or just refuse to accept that.

This will be my last post as this thread is pointless and a complete waste of space and time.

I Corinthians 2:14

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Having said that, I have said a prayer for you OP as well as your entourage that shares your mindset, that you will embrace the Truth before you take your last breath and you are eternally lost forever.

God said His Word shall not return void. Even as you read these verses shaking your head in disbelief, they (His Word) are being deposited into your heart.

Next time you are at a beach, pick up a handful of sand and examine the grains of sand within. Then imagine all the beaches of the world and the sand that lies on them. Your handful along with all other beaches is just the beginning of eternity.

You better hope your thinking is right or you'll have a very long period of time to ponder your mistake.

I'm out
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You quote Corinthians. Who wrote Corinthians? What does Corinthians have to do with this discussion on the book of Genesis. And once more, you attack the messenger with your idiotic logic and make veiled threats to me about some kind of disaster that is going to overtake me because you have some kind of connection with your mean old god.
What in the holy hell does sand on a beach have to do with any of this. Surely you are delusional.
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Shortly after this god says don't eat an apple or you'll die - they eat an apple and don't die, then when he comes back they hide behind some trees and he has to go looking for them.

Now... I'm not being funny but how the fuck can you hide from God behind a tree if he's an infinite all knowing being. If he was God it's fair to assume he's gonna kick your arse at hide and seek - he sees everything... Except... Hang on, he didn't see them eat the apple. This chancer is either not a god or at best a very incompetent one.
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LOL
Does eating a piece of fruit get you the death penalty? But, wait...god loves me.
Where is it written that Eve died? Could she still be alive and living in Pacoima?
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Quote -The Yahweh God that you worship has been known through many generations as Zeus, Jupiter, etc, and yes this Yahweh God has been used by 'these people' to control everyone around the planet.

This is spirit of the antichrist talk. The coming antichrist will fool the unbelieving in a one world religion. He is referred to in scripture as apollyon. This is a derivative of apollo, the false sungod. The stage is set with a demon who wants to be god of the world as zeus and a false son of god apollo and a false prophet petrus romanus to reverse the foundation church which Peter was the rock.
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Apollyon means destroyer also Abaddon.


Apollo was the god of the Sun. Patron defender of herds and flocks, God of poetry and music.


You've mixed it all together and come out with muddy water.
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Quote -The Yahweh God that you worship has been known through many generations as Zeus, Jupiter, etc, and yes this Yahweh God has been used by 'these people' to control everyone around the planet.

This is spirit of the antichrist talk. The coming antichrist will fool the unbelieving in a one world religion. He is referred to in scripture as apollyon. This is a derivative of apollo, the false sungod. The stage is set with a demon who wants to be god of the world as zeus and a false son of god apollo and a false prophet petrus romanus to reverse the foundation church which Peter was the rock.
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Apollyon means destroyer also Abaddon.


Apollo was the god of the Sun. Patron defender of herds and flocks, God of poetry and music.


You've mixed it all together and come out with muddy water.
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I know you cannot be serious. The false religions have been mixed and matched from antiquity. The MO of Satan and the spirit of the antichrist is to divide and conquer and keep the masses in a perpetual state of confusion. So; when the one world religion comes and the antichrist is in the temple, don't you think all of this garbage is going to be brought together in one grand deception? The half man and half beast idol, the Sphinx is setting in Egyptian desert waiting for its master. Do you realize that at one time the ruling class of Egypt was a Ptolemaic dynasty? Go back and look at the lengthy post after this one that you rebutted and see the overwhelming evidence of the dark force fingerprint in this world without regard to any protocol in your limited perception.

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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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I think you are using a corrupted bible. Do you have a link to the bible you are using?
That way we may be able to determine where it comes from.

This Bible which has been used by the Catholic Church for well over 1500 years, tells us that God, Lord God created everything.

[link to www.drbo.org]
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I know you cannot be serious. The false religions have been mixed and matched from antiquity. The MO of Satan and the spirit of the antichrist is to divide and conquer and keep the masses in a perpetual state of confusion. So; when the one world religion comes and the antichrist is in the temple, don't you think all of this garbage is going to be brought together in one grand deception? The half man and half beast idol, the Sphinx is setting in Egyptian desert waiting for its master. Do you realize that at one time the ruling class of Egypt was a Ptolemaic dynasty? Go back and look at the lengthy post after this one that you rebutted and see the overwhelming evidence of the dark force fingerprint in this world without regard to any protocol in your limited perception.
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I'd say you believe too much in Satan.
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I know you cannot be serious. The false religions have been mixed and matched from antiquity. The MO of Satan and the spirit of the antichrist is to divide and conquer and keep the masses in a perpetual state of confusion. So; when the one world religion comes and the antichrist is in the temple, don't you think all of this garbage is going to be brought together in one grand deception? The half man and half beast idol, the Sphinx is setting in Egyptian desert waiting for its master. Do you realize that at one time the ruling class of Egypt was a Ptolemaic dynasty? Go back and look at the lengthy post after this one that you rebutted and see the overwhelming evidence of the dark force fingerprint in this world without regard to any protocol in your limited perception.
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I'd say you believe too much in Satan.
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I'd say Jesus Christ is my Savior, and if you are not written into the Book of Life from the foundation of this world, you have a high likelihood of falling for the grand deception that is coming. I make it a point to know my enemy. Had you rather be blindsided?
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It's two different stories. Both stories were probably part of the oral history before the Torah was written
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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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I think you are using a corrupted bible. Do you have a link to the bible you are using?
That way we may be able to determine where it comes from.

This Bible which has been used by the Catholic Church for well over 1500 years, tells us that God, Lord God created everything.

[link to www.drbo.org]
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I just read 1:26 in your Douay link and it says "let us make man in our image". Is 'us' and 'our' plural?
Did you know that the old testament was written in hebrew?
Did you know in hebrew god is elohim?
Did you know that any word in hebrew with 'im' on the end is plural? Therefore the catholic douay version lies and uses the singular term god, not gods. Does it piss you off to have been lied to for fifteen hundred years? It sure ought to.
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JEHOVAH God, our Father's first creation *was* Jesus. Jesus, with and through God's willingness, was able to use Jehovah's "active force" (holy ghost if you will), to create us.

God created the platform -

Psalm 33:6
The LORD merely spoke, and the heavens were created. He breathed the word, and all the stars were born.

Jesus worked with God -

Genesis 1:2
The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.

Colossians 1:15-18
More on the importance of Jesus, but note, he is not JEHOVAH -

5 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.


John 1:3
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

and finally, Jesus Christ -


Proverbs 8:21-31

New International Version (NIV)

21 bestowing a rich inheritance on those who love me
and making their treasuries full.

22 “The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works,[a]
before his deeds of old;
23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.
24 When there were no watery depths, I was given birth,
when there were no springs overflowing with water;
25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
26 before he made the world or its fields
or any of the dust of the earth.
27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
30 Then I was constantly[c] at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankind.

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Jesus IS Jehovah.
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John 10:30

"The Father and I are one.”

They are one, as in a marriage between two, but of course different. For there are so many verses that make it clear, Jesus is not Jehovah:

John 12:44-45

44 Then Jesus cried out, “Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. 45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me.


And this, this is my favorite in this context... ONLY God The Father, JEHOVAH knows, *not even* the Son -

Mark 13:32
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
Mayan Calendar and 2012-
From the love of power to the power of Love -
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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23761823




I think you are using a corrupted bible. Do you have a link to the bible you are using?
That way we may be able to determine where it comes from.

This Bible which has been used by the Catholic Church for well over 1500 years, tells us that God, Lord God created everything.

[link to www.drbo.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31438452



The books of the bible were translated into English from Latin only 500 years. And that was the first appearance and utterance of the name "Jesus" as that is the same time period the letter "J" was invented.


In the oral tradition of Torah that existed for several thousand years before ever being written down, the first sentence in the bible is spoken this way "In a beginning, created the Gods of the Heavens and the Earth."



Pretty much every modern bible is "wrong" in this aspect.

No matter how perfect and inspired a book is, it can only ever amount to belief. It is a map, not the territory.

Faith comes from a living experience of the Living God and from there the Holy Spirit leads you into all Truth.

Living faith is personal PROOF of God.
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I know you cannot be serious. The false religions have been mixed and matched from antiquity. The MO of Satan and the spirit of the antichrist is to divide and conquer and keep the masses in a perpetual state of confusion. So; when the one world religion comes and the antichrist is in the temple, don't you think all of this garbage is going to be brought together in one grand deception? The half man and half beast idol, the Sphinx is setting in Egyptian desert waiting for its master. Do you realize that at one time the ruling class of Egypt was a Ptolemaic dynasty? Go back and look at the lengthy post after this one that you rebutted and see the overwhelming evidence of the dark force fingerprint in this world without regard to any protocol in your limited perception.
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I'd say you believe too much in Satan.
 Quoting: Truth 908143


I'd say Jesus Christ is my Savior, and if you are not written into the Book of Life from the foundation of this world, you have a high likelihood of falling for the grand deception that is coming. I make it a point to know my enemy. Had you rather be blindsided?
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The character Satan was not invented yet in the Genesis account. Got it?
The character Jesus was not invented yet, either. Got it? Perhaps you have been so mind conditioned and brainwashed that you will Never get it....Ever.
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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23761823




I think you are using a corrupted bible. Do you have a link to the bible you are using?
That way we may be able to determine where it comes from.

This Bible which has been used by the Catholic Church for well over 1500 years, tells us that God, Lord God created everything.

[link to www.drbo.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31438452



The books of the bible were translated into English from Latin only 500 years. And that was the first appearance and utterance of the name "Jesus" as that is the same time period the letter "J" was invented.


In the oral tradition of Torah that existed for several thousand years before ever being written down, the first sentence in the bible is spoken this way "In a beginning, created the Gods of the Heavens and the Earth."



Pretty much every modern bible is "wrong" in this aspect.

No matter how perfect and inspired a book is, it can only ever amount to belief. It is a map, not the territory.

Faith comes from a living experience of the Living God and from there the Holy Spirit leads you into all Truth.

Living faith is personal PROOF of God.
 Quoting: Truth 908143


I think the originals are written in Greek?
Keneh
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In the oral tradition of Torah that existed for several thousand years before ever being written down, the first sentence in the bible is spoken this way "In a beginning, created the Gods of the Heavens and the Earth."



Pretty much every modern bible is "wrong" in this aspect.

 Quoting: Truth 908143

Considering your post do you not have to show that the error was not introduced during the time it was an oral only book. Making GOD (singular) the correct version?

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