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Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.

 
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"let us make man in our image". Is 'us' and 'our' plural?

 Quoting: Son of Man


Ge:1:2:
And the earth was without form,
and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Ge:1:27:
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them
.
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The main problem with monotheists (in this case christians, caths, and islams) is they will never find the true God.

if you can find the true God, you will see God everywhere in your life. We all will live in harmony. There will be no war, crimes, opression etc.

If you want to see the true God, stay away from illusion created by your religions (and scriptures)
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I just read 1:26 in your Douay link and it says "let us make man in our image". Is 'us' and 'our' plural?
Did you know that the old testament was written in hebrew?
Did you know in hebrew god is elohim?
Did you know that any word in hebrew with 'im' on the end is plural? Therefore the catholic douay version lies and uses the singular term god, not gods. Does it piss you off to have been lied to for fifteen hundred years? It sure ought to.
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"let us make man in our image". Is 'us' and 'our' plural?

The Lord of hosts, God Almighty is the Trinity, according to His Holy Bible.

That is why we say: In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost/Spirit.


[1] In the beginning God {1.} created heaven, and earth. [2] And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God {2.} moved over the waters.

Matthew 28: [18] And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. [19] Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father {1.}, and of the Son {2.}, and of the Holy Ghost {3.}.



Luke 1: [35] And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost {1.} shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High {2.} shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God {3.}.


Matthew 3:[16] And Jesus being baptized, forthwith came out of the water: and lo, the heavens were opened to him: and he saw the Spirit of God {1.} descending as a dove, and coming upon him. [17] And behold a voice from heaven {2.}, saying: This is my beloved Son {3.}, in whom I am well pleased.
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 Quoting: Son of Man





[link to www.thefreedictionary.com]

trin·i·ty Pronunciation (trn-t)
n. pl. trin·i·ties
1. A group consisting of three closely related members. Also called triunity.
2. Trinity Theology In most Christian faiths, the union of three divine persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, in one God. Also called Trine.
3. Trinity Trinity Sunday.


trinity [ˈtrɪnɪtɪ]
n pl -ties
1. a group of three
2. the state of being threefold




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trinity
Pronunciation: /ˈtrɪnɪti/

Definition of trinity
noun (plural trinities)

(the Trinity or the Holy Trinity) the three persons of the Christian Godhead; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
a group of three people or things: the wine was the first of a trinity of three excellent vintages
[mass noun] the state of being three: God is said to be trinity in unity
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SO THE OXFORD DICTIONARY IS NOW YOUR BIBLE. VERY LAME.
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The main problem with monotheists (in this case christians, caths, and islams) is they will never find the true God.

if you can find the true God, you will see God everywhere in your life. We all will live in harmony. There will be no war, crimes, opression etc.

If you want to see the true God, stay away from illusion created by your religions (and scriptures)
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I agree. Scriptures are scripts written by men.
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"let us make man in our image". Is 'us' and 'our' plural?

 Quoting: Son of Man


Ge:1:2:
And the earth was without form,
and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Ge:1:27:
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them
.
 Quoting: MHz


כו וַיֹּאמֶ&#151​2; אֱלֹהִים, נַעֲשֶׂה אָדָם בְּצַלְמ&#146​1;נוּ כִּדְמוּ&#151​4;ֵנוּ; וְיִרְדּ&#149​3;ּ בִדְגַת הַיָּם וּבְעוֹף הַשָּׁמַ&#149​7;ִם, וּבַבְּה&#146​1;מָה וּבְכָל-ה&#14​64;אָרֶץ, וּבְכָל-ה&#14​64;רֶמֶשׂ, הָרֹמֵשׂ עַל-הָאָר&#14​62;ץ. 26 And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.'
כז וַיִּבְר&#146​4;א אֱלֹהִים אֶת-הָאָד&#14​64;ם בְּצַלְמ&#149​3;ֹ, בְּצֶלֶם אֱלֹהִים בָּרָא אֹתוֹ: זָכָר וּנְקֵבָ&#149​2;, בָּרָא אֹתָם. 27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.
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Well, the OP will not be eating a bible or an encyclopedia set anytime soon. He has set the self important liars on the run. See how easy it is when you educate yourself and are well informed and stand up to lies. Perhaps this is what the new age is all about. Not putting up with lies and falsehoods anymore. It's about time.
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OP and those that left the infantile mind behind in childhood (believing ANYTHING that one reads, hears, and sees, pretty much without question):

You will get nowhere trying to demonstrate that the bible is full of errors and other assorted nonsense. Either the believer does not possess the cognitive tools and framework to think rationally and critically, or they are are so indoctrinated into and saturated by their various cults that there is little hope that they can ever think in a different way. In the information age, there is no excuse for the ignorance displayed by the religitards. You don't even have to leave your home to research the shit out of any topic these days. Religitards, do you know what bias is? In history, primary and secondary sources/data etc? The importance of studying multiple sources of information from different viewpoints, not just those that agree with your own? That the sources of information you use are credible and reliable?

Religitards, simply quoting bible passages does not demonstrate anything, except that you may be familiar with the the contents of the bible and perhaps understand what it is, or is supposed to be saying to the reader. If we took the bible as our sole source of data and took it to be 100% true and correct, then beating down anyone that said otherwise, where would that leave us? The Dark Ages perhaps? I don't know how to make this any clearer religitards: quoting the bible to prove that the bible describes what constitutes reality, either in the past or now, does not work...

One good example: Exodus. There is not a shred of evidence, neither physical or written (outside of the bible), to confirm that that story is based on reality - something that actually took place. Check for yourselves. However, FFS, don't look at Christian or Jewish religious sources ONLY.

I won't expend any more energy on this and I suggest you don't either OP ;-) It's been fun, but I'm afraid it's futile. Jesus is big business in the USA, hell around the world. It used to be about power and control, these days it's more about money. Ego and certain sick, self-aggrandizing people won't let this go - they like the attention, money and sway they hold over people too much. If you're an attention whore and wanna get rich, go to the USA and start foaming at the mouth with religious zeal. You'll hit the jackpot in no time ;-)

Quoting the bible to prove the veracity of the bible is like a scientist announcing an incredible new discovery, but not sharing ANY of her data with peers to review and test for themselves. When asked for proof to support the claims, the scientist provides selected quotes and data from...herself, and says "Trust me, I'm really smart. There's no need for you guys to check my methods and results. I couldn't have made an error, look at my qualifications and experience. I wouldn't lie either, you guys know me and my reputation."

Amen.

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It's called the Godhead. The Hebrew word 'Elohim' is both singular and plural, referring to the Godhead of the Father and Jesus Christ. Both were involved in the act of Creation, however, it was Jesus Christ who spoke the words and formed man.
 Quoting: Voice In The Wilderness
There is no Scripture which says Elohim is referring to either Jesus and God, or to the Trinity.

"In The Name of Jesus I rebuke your persistent spirit of error, spirit of deceit, and spirit of imagination. Be gone now, and do not return to this vessel."
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One good example: Exodus. There is not a shred of evidence, neither physical or written (outside of the bible), to confirm that that story is based on reality - something that actually took place. Check for yourselves. However, FFS, don't look at Christian or Jewish religious sources ONLY.
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Where does the Bible say the crossing too place? I'll even help you.

Ex:14:2:
Speak unto the children of Israel,
that they turn and encamp before Pi-hahiroth,
between Migdol and the sea,
over against Baal-zephon:
before it shall ye encamp by the sea.

[link to bibleatlas.org]

See the narrow part between the Great Bitten Lake and the Little Bittern Lake? Now add a strong east wind that blows all night, that is where they crossed. That new or old news for you?

Ex:14:21:
And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea;
and the LORD caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night,
and made the sea dry land,
and the waters were divided.
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If Genesis 1:1, which states:

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

Is _not_ true, then you can largely throw out the book. Sure, there would be various historical facts you could gleam throughout the vast number of pages, but the true meaning or purpose of the book, would not be holy. It in fact would be a deception.

Yet, what if?

What if Genesis 1:1 *is* true?! What if God did create the heavens and the earth? What if God, our Father, left us an instruction book?

Would you now want to read it?

Would you not want to only read it, but to spiritually embrace it, to actually study it?

Simply reading the Bible, the Holy Scriptures from cover to cover is not enough. One needs to pray, to not lean on their own corrupted understanding, to study the holy texts with brothers and sisters who have an open approach to each and every question, even if questioning a certain verses validity.

What amazed me, thanks be to God, was that time after time, I was proven wrong, wrong, wrong and The Word RIGHT. Try it.

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Peace.
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At last! Yes, praise be, at last someone finally gets it.
Yes, indeedy, someone realizes we are discussing Genesis and In the Beginning. Of course, if the writings are not the truth from the get-go, just throw the book out because nothing coming out later is worthwhile because the foundation of the story is a lie.
I agree totally.
I also totally want to believe Genesis 1:1 to 2:4 where the Gods make everything, call it Good and Bless it. I love it. I am in. Wonderful, beautiful story.
Unfortunately, we have another completely different story starting at Genesis 2:4. A whole new character is written into the script called the LORD God. He makes a dust man and a rib lady and has evil death tree and talking snake. Which story is correct and true. They both cannot be. One has to be a LIE and that is the whole purpose of this thread. Everything coming out from this LIE is fraudulent. Can you understand this?
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In short, sometimes to discuss Genesis, you need to look at the last chapter of the Bible, Revelation, as one example:

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This thread is about Genesis but I gotta bring in the NT to back up OP's claim that the bible is a lie.

The big thing for todays christians is that God sacrificed his son for man! I dont get it! How come he is sitting at Gods right hand today... ? How can that be a sacrifice? To me that sounds more like a reward.

If God should sacrifice his son, the only way would be to send him to hell and not take him to heaven...
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This thread is about Genesis but I gotta bring in the NT to back up OP's claim that the bible is a lie.

The big thing for todays christians is that God sacrificed his son for man! I dont get it! How come he is sitting at Gods right hand today... ? How can that be a sacrifice? To me that sounds more like a reward.

If God should sacrifice his son, the only way would be to send him to hell and not take him to heaven...
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The very idea of modern man having a religion about human sacrifice is appalling and makes no sense at all. This bible starting at Genesis 2:4 coming out is some sick shit.

However, I will repeat what I stated earlier in this thread; Genesis 1:1 to 2:4 is a totally cool creation account. The Gods worked hard and made everything. They called it all Good and Blessed it and then left to rest.
To me, this is what Gods are all about. Good Gods, that is. No meddling. No rules and regulations. Creative force only. No worshipping necessary. I like this story a lot and it makes sense.
I will choose this account as the True story and if anyone ever asks me if I believe in the Bible, I will say Yes, from Genesis 1:1 to 2:4.

Now, starting at 2:4 coming out we have a God that puts all kinds of demands and rules and regulations and penalties on folks. He is the epitome of an Evil One. He gets caught in many Lies, also. So you could call him the Father of Lies. He also demands that his followers do atrocious acts to other humans. Yet, strangely enough, he is the one that all religious orders and humans seek to please and worship.

So the choice is up to the reader of this literature. As for me, I say, Out The Door with 2:4!

Thanks to those with an open mind that participated in this posting.
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Howdie OP.

It was an interesting thread :-D

From the non-religitards I saw some good points and some creative and amusing responses. I don't recall any threats or true hatred towards the religitards. The overall tone from our camp seemed to be exasperation and incredulity that full grown adults (apparently) could believe such things with so much conviction.

From many of the religitards, I saw a lot of anger, threats made with seeming glee about people burning for eternity etc, and what seemed to be real hatred expressed. There seemed to be no proof furnished besides bible quote after bible quote.

OP, even if your understanding of certain parts of the bible is different or wrong according to the believers, that doesn't make the bible true and 100% fact. The religitards don't seem to grasp this.

OP, you are right, after Genesis, God gets really nasty :-S I wonder what a psychologist or psychiatrist would say about the personality of this God, as described throughout the bible. I wonder what the diagnosis would be. I'm curious now to see if this has been done. I'll report back if I find anything...

Thanks for starting such an epic thread OP! I hope this thread keeps going now - I suspect the old tit has milk left aplenty :-D
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How can you judge God?

The Bible is not a lie. Just because one has the feeling Jehovah got strict or showed strong emotion makes the The Word a lie, is not very good proof.
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bump for jeebus
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Op,

I'm not trying to be rude but just going to state the obvious here. You asked a question which your mind is already made up about, which in fact is the opposite of open mindedness.

You ask us to be open minded but aren't you being a hypocrite. You only want us to open up to you. Yet your are unwilling to open up to anyone else's point of view.

You relize the years of research some of these people have put into their spiritual beliefs. They took a journey....that honestly you seem to lazy to take.

Instead of asking us what Corinthians or an apple has to do with anything, why don't you search it out.


P.s. True faith is believing without seeing. In essence a spiritual mind or eye to understand spiritual truth's. Or a mathematical mind to understand quantum physics.

It seems to me your original question was addressed early on although you cannot or just refuse to accept that.

This will be my last post as this thread is pointless and a complete waste of space and time.

I Corinthians 2:14

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Having said that, I have said a prayer for you OP as well as your entourage that shares your mindset, that you will embrace the Truth before you take your last breath and you are eternally lost forever.

God said His Word shall not return void. Even as you read these verses shaking your head in disbelief, they (His Word) are being deposited into your heart.

Next time you are at a beach, pick up a handful of sand and examine the grains of sand within. Then imagine all the beaches of the world and the sand that lies on them. Your handful along with all other beaches is just the beginning of eternity.

You better hope your thinking is right or you'll have a very long period of time to ponder your mistake.

I'm out
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You quote Corinthians. Who wrote Corinthians? What does Corinthians have to do with this discussion on the book of Genesis. And once more, you attack the messenger with your idiotic logic and make veiled threats to me about some kind of disaster that is going to overtake me because you have some kind of connection with your mean old god.
What in the holy hell does sand on a beach have to do with any of this. Surely you are delusional.
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Shortly after this god says don't eat an apple or you'll die - they eat an apple and don't die, then when he comes back they hide behind some trees and he has to go looking for them.

Now... I'm not being funny but how the fuck can you hide from God behind a tree if he's an infinite all knowing being. If he was God it's fair to assume he's gonna kick your arse at hide and seek - he sees everything... Except... Hang on, he didn't see them eat the apple. This chancer is either not a god or at best a very incompetent one.
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LOL
Does eating a piece of fruit get you the death penalty? But, wait...god loves me.
Where is it written that Eve died? Could she still be alive and living in Pacoima?
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LOL....You are right. O.P. should have never asked a spiritual person about a spiritual journey.

One, because a spiritual journey is independent on the individual.

Two, truth is as beauty, in the eye of the beholder.

Three, explaining it to him or you is the same as if Hitler asked me what love is. (Just are not ever gonna get it)



Howdie OP.

It was an interesting thread :-D

From the non-religitards I saw some good points and some creative and amusing responses. I don't recall any threats or true hatred towards the religitards. The overall tone from our camp seemed to be exasperation and incredulity that full grown adults (apparently) could believe such things with so much conviction.

From many of the religitards, I saw a lot of anger, threats made with seeming glee about people burning for eternity etc, and what seemed to be real hatred expressed. There seemed to be no proof furnished besides bible quote after bible quote.

OP, even if your understanding of certain parts of the bible is different or wrong according to the believers, that doesn't make the bible true and 100% fact. The religitards don't seem to grasp this.

OP, you are right, after Genesis, God gets really nasty :-S I wonder what a psychologist or psychiatrist would say about the personality of this God, as described throughout the bible. I wonder what the diagnosis would be. I'm curious now to see if this has been done. I'll report back if I find anything...

Thanks for starting such an epic thread OP! I hope this thread keeps going now - I suspect the old tit has milk left aplenty :-D
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This is all very simple. But now the religitards (both the fundies and the satanists) have arrived and made it confusing with their black and white thinking.

I'll break it down for the rest of you. God is infinite and eternal. Nothing exists outside of God. Therefore, everything is part of God but not God. (Each part is a part but not the whole). At Each stage of creation God uses an agent (for example Christ created this universe or an angel speaks on God's behalf). The idea of agency can be understood through the idea of a fractal. At each lower level of detail there is a mini-creator and mini creation. Ergo God(s) is both singular and plural depending on the scope of your conception. Humans are co-creators within their own scope of imagination and power.

BLUF: God uses agents at each level of creation.
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This is all very simple. But now the religitards (both the fundies and the satanists) have arrived and made it confusing with their black and white thinking.

I'll break it down for the rest of you. God is infinite and eternal. Nothing exists outside of God. Therefore, everything is part of God but not God. (Each part is a part but not the whole). At Each stage of creation God uses an agent (for example Christ created this universe or an angel speaks on God's behalf). The idea of agency can be understood through the idea of a fractal. At each lower level of detail there is a mini-creator and mini creation. Ergo God(s) is both singular and plural depending on the scope of your conception. Humans are co-creators within their own scope of imagination and power.

BLUF: God uses agents at each level of creation.
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Thank you, I understand it but can never voice it. And its taken me years to move from the regular practice "Catholic " dogma.

Can I ask you what your take on Revelation's is?

Edited to say...instead of revelation's the book of Enoch.

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This is funny.
I was catholic Christian and now I've opened up to the ways of quantam physics and the universe over the last few years.
After years of asking teahers, preachers and even the arch bishop of my city have I not had an answer that will satisfy nor give legitimate meaning to the word of god. Sorry but knowing that i would burn because i didnt apease a man who was meant to Love all his children was enough to throw me off. Like others have said, other 'gods' are in text thousands of years before mention of Christianity, the bibles contradiction of itself throughout the book, the fact it was written by man is just a plain simple answer. You dont trust your governments texts and speeches, so why listen to a 2000 year old book ? Man has not changed in 2 thousand years. Technology has but man hasn't. Crime, corruption, rape, murder all prelavent throughout history. I do beleieve that everyone should have their own faith. My friends are still catholic and we are still great friends. It is when religion starts to push you to start personal attacks on non believers and being labeled straight out wrong for not believing in god does is show your insecurities towards how you feel about the situation and your god. I believe if you are truly humble in yourself and your god, there is no reason to even get involved. I just am because I can :)
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This is funny.
I was catholic Christian and now I've opened up to the ways of quantam physics and the universe over the last few years.
After years of asking teahers, preachers and even the arch bishop of my city have I not had an answer that will satisfy nor give legitimate meaning to the word of god. Sorry but knowing that i would burn because i didnt apease a man who was meant to Love all his children was enough to throw me off. Like others have said, other 'gods' are in text thousands of years before mention of Christianity, the bibles contradiction of itself throughout the book, the fact it was written by man is just a plain simple answer. You dont trust your governments texts and speeches, so why listen to a 2000 year old book ? Man has not changed in 2 thousand years. Technology has but man hasn't. Crime, corruption, rape, murder all prelavent throughout history. I do beleieve that everyone should have their own faith. My friends are still catholic and we are still great friends. It is when religion starts to push you to start personal attacks on non believers and being labeled straight out wrong for not believing in god does is show your insecurities towards how you feel about the situation and your god. I believe if you are truly humble in yourself and your god, there is no reason to even get involved. I just am because I can :)
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LOL, I have a Jewish Catholic background. I am now what I call a spiritual Christian. And as you, love quantum physics. The measurement problem still blows my mind.

I asked about the book of Enoch because I heard it describes a blackhole. I'm reading it now ....so not at that part yet.
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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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Genesis 1 is creation by elohim in their minds, everything starts in the mind or imagination.

Genesis 2 was to be the fullfilment of that imagination at 2.4 with the lord god (different ole boy) in the physical manifestation.

remember at gen 1:29 god saw that it was VERY GOOD, yet at
2:18 lord god says it is not right so he basically screws things up..so this ole boy "Lord God" is actually Satan...

yeah I know most will just ape shit on that statement but I've done the research
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Could you explain that please? Not messing with you honest question.

Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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Genesis 1 is creation by elohim in their minds, everything starts in the mind or imagination.

Genesis 2 was to be the fullfilment of that imagination at 2.4 with the lord god (different ole boy) in the physical manifestation.

remember at gen 1:29 god saw that it was VERY GOOD, yet at
2:18 lord god says it is not right so he basically screws things up..so this ole boy "Lord God" is actually Satan...

yeah I know most will just ape shit on that statement but I've done the research
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"let us make man in our image". Is 'us' and 'our' plural?

The Lord of hosts, God Almighty is the Trinity, according to His Holy Bible.

That is why we say: In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost/Spirit.


[1] In the beginning God {1.} created heaven, and earth. [2] And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God {2.} moved over the waters.

Matthew 28: [18] And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. [19] Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father {1.}, and of the Son {2.}, and of the Holy Ghost {3.}.



Luke 1: [35] And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost {1.} shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High {2.} shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God {3.}.


Matthew 3:[16] And Jesus being baptized, forthwith came out of the water: and lo, the heavens were opened to him: and he saw the Spirit of God {1.} descending as a dove, and coming upon him. [17] And behold a voice from heaven {2.}, saying: This is my beloved Son {3.}, in whom I am well pleased.
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trin·i·ty Pronunciation (trn-t)
n. pl. trin·i·ties
1. A group consisting of three closely related members. Also called triunity.
2. Trinity Theology In most Christian faiths, the union of three divine persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, in one God. Also called Trine.
3. Trinity Trinity Sunday.


trinity [&#712;tr&#618;n&#618;t&#618;]
n pl -ties
1. a group of three
2. the state of being threefold




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trinity
Pronunciation: /&#712;tr&#618;n&#618;ti/

Definition of trinity
noun (plural trinities)

(the Trinity or the Holy Trinity) the three persons of the Christian Godhead; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
a group of three people or things: the wine was the first of a trinity of three excellent vintages
[mass noun] the state of being three: God is said to be trinity in unity
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SO THE OXFORD DICTIONARY IS NOW YOUR BIBLE. VERY LAME.
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OHHHH, I see, so you make up your OWN dictionary! How FICTITIOUS of You!

Well then I guess you lose all credibility since you made everything UP!


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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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I will admit I don't believe in the holy Trinity but I do know there is enough evidence on both sides of the argument.

I personally, no matter how hard I try to twist " Only Begotten Son " into the Holy Trinity, I just cant.

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[link to www.thefreedictionary.com]

trin·i·ty Pronunciation (trn-t)
n. pl. trin·i·ties
1. A group consisting of three closely related members. Also called triunity.
2. Trinity Theology In most Christian faiths, the union of three divine persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, in one God. Also called Trine.
3. Trinity Trinity Sunday.


trinity [&#712;tr&#618;n&#618;t&#618;]
n pl -ties
1. a group of three
2. the state of being threefold




[link to oxforddictionaries.com]

trinity
Pronunciation: /&#712;tr&#618;n&#618;ti/

Definition of trinity
noun (plural trinities)

(the Trinity or the Holy Trinity) the three persons of the Christian Godhead; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
a group of three people or things: the wine was the first of a trinity of three excellent vintages
[mass noun] the state of being three: God is said to be trinity in unity
 Quoting: Son of Man


SO THE OXFORD DICTIONARY IS NOW YOUR BIBLE. VERY LAME.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23761823


OHHHH, I see, so you make up your OWN dictionary! How FICTITIOUS of You!

Well then I guess you lose all credibility since you made everything UP!


another do

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Re: Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.
I will admit I don't believe in the holy Trinity but I do know there is enough evidence on both sides of the argument.

I personally, no matter how hard I try to twist " Only Begotten Son " into the Holy Trinity, I just cant.

...





[link to www.thefreedictionary.com]

trin·i·ty Pronunciation (trn-t)
n. pl. trin·i·ties
1. A group consisting of three closely related members. Also called triunity.
2. Trinity Theology In most Christian faiths, the union of three divine persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, in one God. Also called Trine.
3. Trinity Trinity Sunday.


trinity [&#712;tr&#618;n&#618;t&#618;]
n pl -ties
1. a group of three
2. the state of being threefold




[link to oxforddictionaries.com]

trinity
Pronunciation: /&#712;tr&#618;n&#618;ti/

Definition of trinity
noun (plural trinities)

(the Trinity or the Holy Trinity) the three persons of the Christian Godhead; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
a group of three people or things: the wine was the first of a trinity of three excellent vintages
[mass noun] the state of being three: God is said to be trinity in unity
 Quoting: Son of Man


SO THE OXFORD DICTIONARY IS NOW YOUR BIBLE. VERY LAME.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23761823


OHHHH, I see, so you make up your OWN dictionary! How FICTITIOUS of You!

Well then I guess you lose all credibility since you made everything UP!


another do

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So because you do not understand then you dismiss it?

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26

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