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Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.

 
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REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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OP: "You see this coin? It has a heads and a tails but it's only one coin! It's a LIE!"


Do you understand?
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"No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the Lord; none of his descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall enter the assembly of the Lord."

God is jesus's father, but marry was married to joseph, so jesus is illegitimate.
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Yes he was a bastard, because he had no living father at birth.
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"No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the Lord; none of his descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall enter the assembly of the Lord."

God is jesus's father, but marry was married to joseph, so jesus is illegitimate.
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Mary was betrothed.

God is Jesus' Father to create God incarnate.

Jesus always was. Everything was created by Him and by Him all things exists.
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OP: "You see this coin? It has a heads and a tails but it's only one coin! It's a LIE!"


Do you understand?
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Idiot a coin has two completly different sides.
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Thank you for the pin so that we can discuss this important matter in a civil and logical manner.

According to all religious organizations, the bible was authored by God. Actually, a man named Moses wrote it, but they believe that God dictated it to him. Whatever the case, the bible is a work of Literature and in these first few words we have two completely different stories with completely different characters. Can we agree on this much?
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This is absolute proof that the OP(Thread Starter) is an idiot.
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Hey OP, it's like you're saying: "You see that Rubix cube over there with all the colors mixed up? It's a LIE!"
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trying to pick up on your analogy...

there are not enough of each individual colour of the bible's content to complete a single side. No matter how you turn it>

Some colours have been discarded to create a fearful following, some new colours created, such as the character of Satan, to justify that fear>

The way Christians 'interpret' the selected words, and always remember they were selected content, is no different from someone reading Harry Potter in a thousand years from now and believing Harry was the son of a God.

When the tub thumpers start bible bashing they lack any compassion or understanding of human mentality, which if anything shows they are in more need of spiritual awakening than the pagans and heathens they are so quick to criticise...get a life ffs
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OP: "You see this coin? It has a heads and a tails but it's only one coin! It's a LIE!"


Do you understand?
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Idiot a coin has two completly different sides.
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iamwith

That's my point, jerk-off.

Actually it has 3 sides counting the flat edge....and it is still a single coin.


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It is a sign forever between me and the Israelis, because the LORD made the heavens and the earth in six days, but on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.'"

hmmm...

Don't you know? Haven't you heard? The LORD is the eternal God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not grow tired or weary; and his understanding cannot be fathomed.
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Action: Deleting thread.
Reason: OP is the ultimate ignoramous.
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Was dating a very religious gal.. She insisted that I attend her Bible study.. Second time at the study, I brought up this exact topic.. I was scorned and asked to leave.. LOL
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OP: "You see this coin? It has a heads and a tails but it's only one coin! It's a LIE!"


Do you understand?
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LOL.

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Of course it's a lie. Why do you feel the need to do mental acrobats to prove it to yourself?
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C'mon now folks, please be polite and no name calling.

Before we even talk about Jesus as he was even in the greek scriptures or new testament, let's just work on these few words at the beginning. By the way, begin in hebrew is bereshit. Why call hebrew writings by a greek name?
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Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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Ge:1:2:
And the earth was without form,
and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Ge:1:26:
And God said,
Let us make man in our image,
after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of the air,
and over the cattle,
and over all the earth,
and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Ge:1:27:
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.

The 'us' in Vs:26 is God and the Holy Spirit, likeness is bodily form including the number of fingers and toes. Image is the relationship between God and the Holy Spirit, more or less Husband and Wife in that they are also one flesh.
Ge:1 is God's witness of creation, Ge: is from the view of the Holy Spirit, the witness of their child Christ is given in Proverbs 8. Would you like to meet the parents of God and the Holy Spirit at some point in eternity?
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It's called the Godhead. The Hebrew word 'Elohim' is both singular and plural, referring to the Godhead of the Father and Jesus Christ. Both were involved in the act of Creation, however, it was Jesus Christ who spoke the words and formed man.

In other words, absolute proof one should think before he speaks.
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Amen! Op, may God bless you and open your eyes to see His Holy Word, the Spirit of truth, read the Book of John.

John 1:1-14
1:1
¶In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1:2
The same was in the beginning with God.

1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

1:4
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

1:5
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

1:6
¶There was a man sent from God, whose name [was] John.

1:7
The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all [men] through him might believe.

1:8
He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear witness of that Light.

1:9
[That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

1:10
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

1:11
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:

1:13
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

1:14
¶And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

God bless!
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I beseech anyone who thinks they have absolute proof of anything to first check a dictionary and refresh their memory of the meanings of the words absolute and proof.
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God killed over two million.

Satan, with God's permission, killed ten..

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As we see in the story of Job Satan needs God permission to perform his plans so I would say God actually aided in killing two million and ten people in the Bible and ten people because Satan can kill no one on his own

Last Edited by Aleph Tav on 01/02/2013 05:31 PM
REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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Ge:1:2:
And the earth was without form,
and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Ge:1:26:
And God said,
Let us make man in our image,
after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of the air,
and over the cattle,
and over all the earth,
and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Ge:1:27:
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.

The 'us' in Vs:26 is God and the Holy Spirit, likeness is bodily form including the number of fingers and toes. Image is the relationship between God and the Holy Spirit, more or less Husband and Wife in that they are also one flesh.
Ge:1 is God's witness of creation, Ge: is from the view of the Holy Spirit, the witness of their child Christ is given in Proverbs 8. Would you like to meet the parents of God and the Holy Spirit at some point in eternity?
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Even the hebrew understanding of YHWH on which the 'christian' version of events relies so heavily accepts a plurality with the shekinah aspect, the one drummed out of worship by the catholic church over many years.

Your religion is easier to understand once you accept the lies within it and learn to deal with them
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Was dating a very religious gal.. She insisted that I attend her Bible study.. Second time at the study, I brought up this exact topic.. I was scorned and asked to leave.. LOL
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I am not asking you to leave. Obviously, we are on to something here for a bible study group to kick you out. Even our president is sworn in on a bible. Is it a lie from the get-go? Is it not time to expose it as such?
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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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:joker:
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WINNING!
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OK guys if you got 3 hours free to watch an extensive research about that issue and many othes twisted ones, here's a link for you.

Word of Faith Teachers: Origins & Errors of Their Teaching (Full Film)

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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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Not a lie, just misunderstood.

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Elohim can also be singular when it is used in reference to The Lord God the Father.

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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23761823


What version are you reading? Is it the one with Lilith? The first eve?
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JEHOVAH God, our Father's first creation *was* Jesus. Jesus, with and through God's willingness, was able to use Jehovah's "active force" (holy ghost if you will), to create us.

God created the platform -

Psalm 33:6
The LORD merely spoke, and the heavens were created. He breathed the word, and all the stars were born.

Jesus worked with God -

Genesis 1:2
The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.

Colossians 1:15-18
More on the importance of Jesus, but note, he is not JEHOVAH -

5 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.


John 1:3
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

and finally, Jesus Christ -


Proverbs 8:21-31

New International Version (NIV)

21 bestowing a rich inheritance on those who love me
and making their treasuries full.

22 “The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works,[a]
before his deeds of old;
23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.
24 When there were no watery depths, I was given birth,
when there were no springs overflowing with water;
25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
26 before he made the world or its fields
or any of the dust of the earth.
27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
30 Then I was constantly[c] at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankind.


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God killed over two million.

Satan, with God's permission, killed ten..

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As we see in the story of Job Satan needs God permission to perform his plans so I would say God actually aided in killing two million in the Bible and ten people because Satan can kill no one on his own
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Please, in these first words the character Satan has not even appeared yet. But it does say that the Gods made male and female in their own image. Then they rested. Along comes a totally new character called the Lord God and makes a dust man and then a woman out of his rib. If this is not Absolute proof of a LIE, I do not know what is.
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"The deep calleth unto the deep and the shallow unto the shallow."

The bible is very deep by design therefore it cannot be explained easily from a shallow perspective...
You should give up this attempt...it just shows the weakness of your ego...
The ego desires everything to be explained simply so it can control it...it does not want to realize there are actually at LEAST 11 spatial dimensions alone, 8 of which we cannot conceptualize...(modern physics has proven this btw...)

Good luck though.. 1rof1

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