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Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.

 
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C'mon now folks, please be polite and no name calling.

Before we even talk about Jesus as he was even in the greek scriptures or new testament, let's just work on these few words at the beginning. By the way, begin in hebrew is bereshit. Why call hebrew writings by a greek name?
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Maybe it's Old English. Bearshit.
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It's called the Godhead. The Hebrew word 'Elohim' is both singular and plural, referring to the Godhead of the Father and Jesus Christ. Both were involved in the act of Creation, however, it was Jesus Christ who spoke the words and formed man.

In other words, absolute proof one should think before he speaks.
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Yes, elohim is plural. Any hebrew word with im on the end is plural. But, how do you explain this Lord God that pops up in 2:4 and makes dust man. Elohim already made man, did he not?
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You will often times find that the Bible reiterates and clarifies that which has already been stated. Genesis 1 gives you an overview of creation, while Genesis 2 focuses in specifically on the creation of man and woman and provides further details.
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C'mon now. Do you really need to start quoting Psalms and Job and John, et al. We are discussing the first few words of a work of literature. Stick with the conversation.
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OK guys if you got 3 hours free to watch an extensive research about that issue and many othes twisted ones, here's a link for you.

Word of Faith Teachers: Origins & Errors of Their Teaching (Full Film)


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Ok admins, you've changed the link, what's the point here ? i'll watch this one you've replaced with.

why's that ?

Keith thompson's work bothers you ?
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Shortly after this god says don't eat an apple or you'll die - they eat an apple and don't die, then when he comes back they hide behind some trees and he has to go looking for them.

Now... I'm not being funny but how the fuck can you hide from God behind a tree if he's an infinite all knowing being. If he was God it's fair to assume he's gonna kick your arse at hide and seek - he sees everything... Except... Hang on, he didn't see them eat the apple. This chancer is either not a god or at best a very incompetent one.
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It's my understanding that death wasn't part of the original design and she didn't die instantly, but her sin brought death to all eventually including animals.
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We've know about this for years. The Bible isn't meant to be read as newspaper or a history book. It's a mix of historical events and mythology. Besides the two versions of creation there are two different killers of Goliath and two different versions of Judas' death.
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It's called the Godhead. The Hebrew word 'Elohim' is both singular and plural, referring to the Godhead of the Father and Jesus Christ. Both were involved in the act of Creation, however, it was Jesus Christ who spoke the words and formed man.

In other words, absolute proof one should think before he speaks.
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" it was Jesus Christ who spoke the words and formed man."

How ?, seeing as Jesus didnt turm up untill the New testament you idiot.
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Have you actually read the New Testament?

"For by him(Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him." Colossians 1:16

Jesus Christ is God and was equal with the Father before He came to earth and became incarnated as a man.
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The OP find that, the Bible is a lie...
Maybe you will win a Nobel prize asshole, lol, to understand the Bible your heart must be pure, for you the Bible is like chinese YOU FOOL!

My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[d]; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one."Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"

"31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"

Gods children are gods, but your father is probably not God...
SO
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God killed over two million.

Satan, with God's permission, killed ten..

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Please, in these first words the character Satan has not even appeared yet. But it does say that the Gods made male and female in their own image. Then they rested. Along comes a totally new character called the Lord God and makes a dust man and then a woman out of his rib. If this is not Absolute proof of a LIE, I do not know what is.
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It is just the same story being retold in more detail...silly...
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How could anyone miss this blatant conflict in the story right at the get go? Shouldn't a whole lot of people be talking about this?
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Do you think you've discovered something that no one else knows? You haven't.

Every Bible scholar knows all about this.
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"The deep calleth unto the deep and the shallow unto the shallow."

The bible is very deep by design therefore it cannot be explained easily from a shallow perspective...
You should give up this attempt...it just shows the weakness of your ego...
The ego desires everything to be explained simply so it can control it...it does not want to realize there are actually at LEAST 11 spatial dimensions alone, 8 of which we cannot conceptualize...(modern physics has proven this btw...)

Good luck though.. 1rof1
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it is also for eyes that see and ears that listen, it seems that for centuries people have been watching priest men and lsitening only to what they are told, so they hear what they are supposed to hear, by a church built on fear and bloodshed.

Have you ever considered a different viewpoint or always dismissed it instantly? I've looked at ot from both sides and still believe it to be a scam
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LOL how did this thread get pinned? I thought it would be something better than this that would actually challenge my belief in anyway. I was ready to disappoint someone but this is just lame.
Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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The OP find that, the Bible is a lie...
Maybe you will win a Nobel prize asshole, lol, to understand the Bible your heart must be pure, for you the Bible is like chinese YOU FOOL!
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Interesting how this person here counsels another to be of a pure heart while calling him an 'asshole'.

The hypocrisy of some knows no bounds.
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Now God saw all that he had made, and indeed, it was very good! The twilight and the dawn were the sixth day.

hmmm....

Then the LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and he was deeply grieved about that.

ALL KNOWING?? ALL LOVING???
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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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Not a lie, just misunderstood.

Sex: The Secret Gate to Eden:


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hf
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This really is a stupid thread, but the answer is quite simple. I assume the OP has seen a movie. I also assume the OP has read a book. It's called PARALLEL TIME LINES. It is used OFTEN when telling stories. Come on, you can't be that naive. More than one thing happens at the same time. The only way to combine the two separate storylines, you need to SEE them separately. Even in the stupid movies, the MOVIEMAKER assumes that the watcher can put two and two together. Even MORE pertinent to this little analogy is the very simple fact that GOD, being God, is not limited to our limited ability to only see one thing at a time. The WHOLE Bible is filled with examples like this. God IS capable of being, seeing, and doing MULTIPLES of things AT ONCE, and is not limited by time/space/limited minds. If you think its hard to get your head around THAT, just imagine what it would be like if he spoke it all at once. A whole universe was created by THAT word. I guess that's why the Scriptures say: "what is man that you should be mindful of him." That does not make it a lie. That makes it the AWFUL TRUTH.
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Now God saw all that he had made, and indeed, it was very good! The twilight and the dawn were the sixth day.

hmmm....

Then the LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and he was deeply grieved about that.

ALL KNOWING?? ALL LOVING???
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You know it, you see it. You see it, you know it.
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Shortly after this god says don't eat an apple or you'll die - they eat an apple and don't die, then when he comes back they hide behind some trees and he has to go looking for them.

Now... I'm not being funny but how the fuck can you hide from God behind a tree if he's an infinite all knowing being. If he was God it's fair to assume he's gonna kick your arse at hide and seek - he sees everything... Except... Hang on, he didn't see them eat the apple. This chancer is either not a god or at best a very incompetent one.
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It's my understanding that death wasn't part of the original design and she didn't die instantly, but her sin brought death to all eventually including animals.
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The wording of Genesis 2:17 is very clear—"but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." What did God mean by "die?" If we examine the events of the fall, we will find that Adam did not physically die when he first ate the fruit, tempting many to say that Adam fell only in a spiritual sense. But we must note two things that. differentiate Adam from ourselves. First, Adam was created perfect and sinless. Second., because he was created sinless, he was not originally condemned to physical death. When Adam ate from that tree, he truly died, just as God promised he would. He died spiritually at that moment, but he was also cursed with the ultimate reality of physical death. Physical death is the result of spiritual death, so that 930 years later, Adam's body finally caught up to his spirit.

Adam's sin had a tremendous effect on the entire world. We can see this clearly stated in Genesis 3:17,18 and Romans 8:19-21. The Genesis passage states that all creation was cursed by God for man's sake. It seems that God wanted to give the human race an object lesson. The lesson, it would appear, is to make the outer world of man like the inner world of man. Man is now a fallen sinner, and so God shows him what his spiritual state is like when he looks at nature. So when man looks at nature, he can see the glory of God, although it is veiled by the curse of sin. Such a demonstration of the results of sin should drive men back to God for His solution to sin and death.


Here is a link that talks a bit more about it:

[link to www.icr.org]
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Absolute proof??? I read a statement but I didn't read any PROOF.

Do you speak every single language?
Do you know every single physical law?
Do you know every single mathematical equation?

If you don't like the Bible don't read it.

There have been many men and women in the long eons of civilization who have tried to deny the Bible has been written down by men who have received the Words from God.
None of them have been able to PROVE that is a lie.

Whether anyone likes it or not all things go back to the source and the source is the Mother the Father and the Son.

The preachers never touch on the point that you brought up is because they are too blind to see or hear anything other than what they WANT to see and hear.
They never touch the BOOK OF REVELATIONS either.

If heaven and hell don't exist than why have laws, why be good, why is there honor, or integreity, or honesty.

And if heaven and hell didn't exist they should be invented for all the horrific crimes against humanity that have been commited in the name of God.
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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.
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Maybe the Gods created the fundament for everything(the universe?), and then the brand new God created man.

As far as I know satanists and luciferians belive that satan or lucifer was thrown out of heaven to become the king of earth and create man?


The Bible appears to be a 'coded' storybook, to say it's true or fales merely depends on your perception.

Personally I think that the Bible can give us clues about our past and stories about our creation. Even if these stories many times seems like complete BS, there is often an underlying meaning.


Great observation tho 5stars! hf
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Genesis (Bereshit) 1:1 to 2:4 the elohim (plural) gods created everything including man and rested.

Starting with 2:4 a brand new god (singular) makes a man out of the dust of the earth and a woman out of his rib...you all know the story.

How is this possible?

Why does the preacher NEVER touch on this. EVER. Go read it for yourself it will only take a few minutes and you will be amazed. There are two completely different creation stories. I do not think anyone has ever posted on this contradiction. Which story is right or are they both lies. If the Bible is a LIE from the first few words at the get-go in Genesis, can you accept anything at all coming after?

Please, do me a big favor and go read the first two chapters and tell me what you think. I would appreciate it.
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It's not a lie. The Old Testament is just not about God, the Everlasting Father. It's about a devilish group of astronauts, who pretended they were God, and fooled people all over the world.

There is none so blind as he who will not see.
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This really is a stupid thread, but the answer is quite simple. I assume the OP has seen a movie. I also assume the OP has read a book. It's called PARALLEL TIME LINES. It is used OFTEN when telling stories. Come on, you can't be that naive. More than one thing happens at the same time. The only way to combine the two separate storylines, you need to SEE them separately. Even in the stupid movies, the MOVIEMAKER assumes that the watcher can put two and two together. Even MORE pertinent to this little analogy is the very simple fact that GOD, being God, is not limited to our limited ability to only see one thing at a time. The WHOLE Bible is filled with examples like this. God IS capable of being, seeing, and doing MULTIPLES of things AT ONCE, and is not limited by time/space/limited minds. If you think its hard to get your head around THAT, just imagine what it would be like if he spoke it all at once. A whole universe was created by THAT word. I guess that's why the Scriptures say: "what is man that you should be mindful of him." That does not make it a lie. That makes it the AWFUL TRUTH.
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cop out bollocks and deep down you just 'hope' you are right
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When you read in Genesis 1 and the "Gods made everything it was all Good and Blessed". When the new character, the Lord God comes along in 2:4 outward and makes dust man and rib woman, he commands them not to eat from the tree of evil because "on the day that you eat from it you will surely DIE". Excuse me, but the first account everything was Good now we have the introduction of the word DEATH and the Good tree became Evil. Who is this Lord God?
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This really is a stupid thread, but the answer is quite simple. I assume the OP has seen a movie. I also assume the OP has read a book. It's called PARALLEL TIME LINES. It is used OFTEN when telling stories. Come on, you can't be that naive. More than one thing happens at the same time. The only way to combine the two separate storylines, you need to SEE them separately. Even in the stupid movies, the MOVIEMAKER assumes that the watcher can put two and two together. Even MORE pertinent to this little analogy is the very simple fact that GOD, being God, is not limited to our limited ability to only see one thing at a time. The WHOLE Bible is filled with examples like this. God IS capable of being, seeing, and doing MULTIPLES of things AT ONCE, and is not limited by time/space/limited minds. If you think its hard to get your head around THAT, just imagine what it would be like if he spoke it all at once. A whole universe was created by THAT word. I guess that's why the Scriptures say: "what is man that you should be mindful of him." That does not make it a lie. That makes it the AWFUL TRUTH.
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cop out bollocks and deep down you just 'hope' you are right
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That's what a lot of movie critics said about Prometheus.

I thought it was quite clear myself. Borderline genius.
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"The deep calleth unto the deep and the shallow unto the shallow."

The bible is very deep by design therefore it cannot be explained easily from a shallow perspective...
You should give up this attempt...it just shows the weakness of your ego...
The ego desires everything to be explained simply so it can control it...it does not want to realize there are actually at LEAST 11 spatial dimensions alone, 8 of which we cannot conceptualize...(modern physics has proven this btw...)

Good luck though.. 1rof1
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it is also for eyes that see and ears that listen, it seems that for centuries people have been watching priest men and lsitening only to what they are told, so they hear what they are supposed to hear, by a church built on fear and bloodshed.

Have you ever considered a different viewpoint or always dismissed it instantly? I've looked at ot from both sides and still believe it to be a scam
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LOL! You think I am defending THE CHURCH? The CATHOLIC CHURCH especially? WAAAAhahahahaha...
Sounds like you are combining two completely seperate issues, the word, and religion...most religion is just mans attempt to control man....
But I do believe the bible is divinely inspired...
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When you read in Genesis 1 and the "Gods made everything it was all Good and Blessed". When the new character, the Lord God comes along in 2:4 outward and makes dust man and rib woman, he commands them not to eat from the tree of evil because "on the day that you eat from it you will surely DIE". Excuse me, but the first account everything was Good now we have the introduction of the word DEATH and the Good tree became Evil. Who is this Lord God?
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The guy who showed up right after they did the thing that he said would bring death...
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No Credible Bible scholar takes the Bible seriously they no its truth with mixed with mythology and Jewish legends.

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REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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You can call me names and make up stories about astronauts and curse me, but those that would like to contribute to a discussion of Literature and offer information are welcome, the others might want to go read something else.
Why not stay on the topic, we all might learn something.
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No Accredited Bible scholar takes the Bible seriously.
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Ahem.
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No Credible Bible scholar takes the Bible seriously they no its truth with mixed with mythology and Jewish legends.
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I can think of half a dozen renown OT and NT scholars who would take issue with your statement. They take scripture very seriously.
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