Absolute proof the Bible is a LIE.

I know the Adversary is under full employment by the Father God and nothing is out of His hands. As in the book of Job.

Satan as the tempter is there to temper us so that we may know what evil (error) is and choose it not.

You know the angel of the lesser light created to rule the night on the 4rth day of creation? Be not surprised when Satan transforms into an angel of light because he is an angel of light fully under Gods authority to test you so that you may know that you are like the animals....to see if you are more than an animal.


If we create darkness and in harmony, there is an angel who is fully empowered to rule over us until we cast of our own darkness and potential darkness. As Yahshua did during his 40 day fast.


Love thine enemy for he will show you your greatest weakness so that you might over come it.

Think on these words.

The oral tradition existed for several thousand years before being written down. Is that oxymoronic or what. You are basing your faith on an oral tradition? Absurd.
I have living faith in the tooth fairy. Well, that proves it! Have you ever considered that maybe the Holy Spirit might be motivating me to lead you into truth by exposing the LIES?

If Genesis 1:1, which states:

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

Is _not_ true, then you can largely throw out the book. Sure, there would be various historical facts you could gleam throughout the vast number of pages, but the true meaning or purpose of the book, would not be holy. It in fact would be a deception.

Yet, what if?

What if Genesis 1:1 *is* true?! What if God did create the heavens and the earth? What if God, our Father, left us an instruction book?

Would you now want to read it?

Would you not want to only read it, but to spiritually embrace it, to actually study it?

Simply reading the Bible, the Holy Scriptures from cover to cover is not enough. One needs to pray, to not lean on their own corrupted understanding, to study the holy texts with brothers and sisters who have an open approach to each and every question, even if questioning a certain verses validity.

What amazed me, thanks be to God, was that time after time, I was proven wrong, wrong, wrong and The Word RIGHT. Try it.

Faith is...
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Peace.

Once again, the character Satan was not invented yet in the Genesis account. Neither was Job or Yahshua. All of these characters were added to the script later. How can you be so obstinate and thick headed to get this simple point? If you don't start using your noggin.....

NT yes, OT no.

and OT was Hebrew, correct?

At last! Yes, praise be, at last someone finally gets it.
Yes, indeedy, someone realizes we are discussing Genesis and In the Beginning. Of course, if the writings are not the truth from the get-go, just throw the book out because nothing coming out later is worthwhile because the foundation of the story is a lie.
I agree totally.
I also totally want to believe Genesis 1:1 to 2:4 where the Gods make everything, call it Good and Bless it. I love it. I am in. Wonderful, beautiful story.
Unfortunately, we have another completely different story starting at Genesis 2:4. A whole new character is written into the script called the LORD God. He makes a dust man and a rib lady and has evil death tree and talking snake. Which story is correct and true. They both cannot be. One has to be a LIE and that is the whole purpose of this thread. Everything coming out from this LIE is fraudulent. Can you understand this?

"Gods of the Heavens and (God of) the Earth."


So the multiplicity of God as the Infinite Effulgence out-side of the universe is as a "Gods" to us inside the universe. The Elohim. They exist upon the Ein Soph.

"God of the earth" is the singularity of the Originator as a progeny and individuation of the Infinite God the Father inside the relative universe. And that is God the Son, the King of the entire universe. Yashua, "Jesus" is that singularity and King. YHVH.

Seven years time and the sense of the beast passed over man at the inception of sin. Even those who will be raptured will not be taken by the Son of Man until after the sixth seal is opened. It is better to have God's armor and have the security of your name in the Book of Life. The seven's years time and the sense of the beast will descend on mankind as this cursed comes to an end. The seven years is the apocalypse, and the sense of the beast comes before the mark.

Correct. They wrote down the oral tradition about 4000 years.

The same story is found in the Assyrian Enuma Elis written down about 3300 year ago, all coming from a similar account of creation from the Sumerians 10,000 years ago.

An oral tradition from a tribe that were single pointed in accurate and undeviating transmission through time. Exactly how they recopy the Torah today.

They were also interested in coding it in a certain way so that only those who took the time and effort to discern and seek would find the connections that would reveal the Truth.

So you have had a direct and personal experience of Omnipresent awareness and revelation of the Living God?

"let us make man in our image". Is 'us' and 'our' plural?

The Lord of hosts, God Almighty is the Trinity, according to His Holy Bible.

That is why we say: In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost/Spirit.


[1] In the beginning God {1.} created heaven, and earth. [2] And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God {2.} moved over the waters.

Matthew 28: [18] And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. [19] Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father {1.}, and of the Son {2.}, and of the Holy Ghost {3.}.



Luke 1: [35] And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost {1.} shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High {2.} shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God {3.}.


Matthew 3:[16] And Jesus being baptized, forthwith came out of the water: and lo, the heavens were opened to him: and he saw the Spirit of God {1.} descending as a dove, and coming upon him. [17] And behold a voice from heaven {2.}, saying: This is my beloved Son {3.}, in whom I am well pleased.

Well, this will be my only post before I'm banned again for
no apparent reason, but here it goes.

First off, there is NO archaeological evidence for the
existence of Biblical Israel. That should be everyone's
first clue as to if the Bible is true history or not.

Also, it only takes a rational person to read a few of the
stories in the Bible to understand that the Bible is
allegory!

Read the story of Lot and his family! Did Lot
really have sex with BOTH of his own daughters and then
"claim" that he had no idea as to what happened? ON TWO
SEPARATE NIGHTS NO LESS!!? This is how the "chosen" race
was continued? OK, whatever!

It's all a lie and the "chosen" need to give back Palestine
to it's rightful people and stop all of this murdering!

Gotta go, bb l8tr

Peace all!

The Lord of hosts, God Almighty is the Trinity, according to His Holy Bible.

SHOW ME THIS WORD "TRINITY" ANYWHERE IN ANY OF THE BIBLE BOOKS AND I WILL EAT A KING JAMES VERSION. WITHOUT ANY CONDIMENTS.
THE WORD IS NOT THERE ANYWHERE.
YOU MADE IT UP.
GOD IS GOING TO PUNISH YOU SEVERELY.
THIS PROVES MY POINT, THE BIBLE IS A BOOK OF LIES AND SPAWNS LIARS.
SHOW ME THE WORD "RAPTURE" IN ANY OF THE BIBLE BOOKS AND I WILL EAT AN ENTIRE ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA.
WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE DO, JUST MAKE UP WORDS THAT SUIT YOUR BULLSHIT LIES?

He was drunk and having a 'Lot' of fun. Haven't you heard that incest is best?

I don't have a problem with fallen angels being referenced as being gods on earth from 4,000BC until 2500BC but spare me the trinity bullshit.



1Jo:5:7:
For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father,
the Word,
and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.

2Co:12:2:
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago,
(whether in the body,
I cannot tell;
or whether out of the body,
I cannot tell:
God knoweth;)
such an one caught up to the third heaven.

Heb:12:22:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,

The 1st heaven is from the surface of the earth to the height of clouds, past that to the ends of the universe is the 2nd heaven. The 3rd heaven is where God, the Holy Spirit and their child, Christ, come from.

Proverb:8:23-31:
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths,
I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth,
nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens,
I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him,
as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.

Good post Mhz on biblical verses.

The 1st heaven is from the surface of the earth to the height of clouds, past that to the ends of the universe is the 2nd heaven. The 3rd heaven is where God, the Holy Spirit and their child, Christ, come from.

COULD I HAVE SOME OF THE PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS YOU ARE TAKING?

C'MON, WHICH ONE OF YOU BABBLING BABOONS WANT TO PRODUCE THIS WORD TRINITY AND RAPTURE. LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN CHECKMATED. LIARS ALL.

No, you need to finish your milk before you get a portion of meat.

1Co:3:2:
I have fed you with milk,
and not with meat:
for hitherto ye were not able to bear it,
neither yet now are ye able.

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Ecclesiasticus 20:[26] A lie is a foul blot in a man, and yet it will be continually in the mouth of men without discipline. [27] A thief is better than a man that is always lying: but both of them shall inherit destruction.


Jeremias (Jeremiah) 11: [14] Therefore, do not thou pray for this people, and do not take up praise and prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time of their cry to me, in the time of their affliction. [15] What is the meaning that my beloved hath wrought much wickedness in my house? shall the holy flesh take away from thee thy crimes, in which thou hast boasted?


[Isaias (Isaiah) 65:[6] Behold it is written before me: I will not be silent, but I will render and repay into their bosom. [7] Your iniquities, and the iniquities of your fathers together, saith the Lord, who have sacrificed upon the mountains, and have reproached me upon the hills; and I will measure back their first work in their bosom.


Proverbs 6: [14] With a wicked heart he deviseth evil, and at all times he soweth discord. [15] To such a one his destruction shall presently come, and he shall suddenly be destroyed, and shall no longer have any remedy.

[16] Six things there are, which the Lord hateth, and the seventh his soul detesteth:

[17] Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, [18] A heart that deviseth wicked plots, feet that are swift to run into mischief,

[19] A deceitful witness that uttereth lies, and him that soweth discord among brethren.

Matthew 4: [7] Jesus said to him: It is written again: Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.


Matthew 10: [32] Every one therefore that shall confess me before men, I will also confess him before my Father who is in heaven.

[33] But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven.

[34] Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword.


Acts Of Apostles 5: [3] But Peter said: Ananias, why hath Satan tempted thy heart, that thou shouldst lie to the Holy Ghost, and by fraud keep part of the price of the land? [4] Whilst it remained, did it not remain to thee? and after it was sold, was it not in thy power? Why hast thou conceived this thing in thy heart? Thou hast not lied to men, but to God. [5] And Ananias hearing these words, fell down, and gave up the ghost.



Revelation 21: [8] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, they shall have their portion in the pool burning with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.


Ezechiel (Ezeckiel) 22:[31] And I poured out my indignation upon them, in the fire of my wrath I consumed them: I have rendered their way upon their own head, saith the Lord God.

Milk, Meat? You idiots live in your own make believe world of poppycock and LIES.
You ought to be ashamed of yourselves for inventing the spurious words TRINITY and RAPTURE to suit your evil doctrine. You remind me of the queers that call themselves GAY. You yourselves prove that the bible is a book of LIES.
I'll give you some Milk and Meat.

You want to talk about your precious Jesus. OK, lets. According to the author of the story, when Pilate wanted to let him go and took him out on the balcony certain that his people would agree, the crowd in One Voice said, "Give us Barabbas". Not one of them stood up for him. They all Knew who he was and what he stood for. They did not want him. They would rather have the assassin Barabbas than your sweet Jesus. Not even his own mama screamed out for him. None of his posse demanded him. NOT ONE. Got it?

They were all in hiding, just like the script called for.

Zec:13:7:
Awake,
O sword,
against my shepherd,
and against the man that is my fellow,
saith the LORD of hosts:
smite the shepherd,
and the sheep shall be scattered:
and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

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John 5:[17] But Jesus answered them: My Father worketh until now; and I work. [18] Hereupon therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he did not only break the sabbath, but also said God was his Father, making himself equal to God.

[19] Then Jesus answered, and said to them: Amen, amen, I say unto you, the Son cannot do any thing of himself, but what he seeth the Father doing: for what things soever he doth, these the Son also doth in like manner. [20] For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things which himself doth: and greater works than these will he shew him, that you may wonder.

[21] For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and giveth life: so the Son also giveth life to whom he will. [22] For neither doth the Father judge any man, but hath given all judgment to the Son. [23] That all men may honour the Son, as they honour the Father. He who honoureth not the Son, honoureth not the Father, who hath sent him.

[24] Amen, amen I say unto you, that he who heareth my word, and believeth him that sent me, hath life everlasting; and cometh not into judgment, but is passed from death to life. [25] Amen, amen I say unto you, that the hour cometh, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God, and they that hear shall live.

[26] For as the Father hath life in himself, so he hath given the Son also to have life in himself: [27] And he hath given him power to do judgment, because he is the Son of man.

[28] Wonder not at this; for the hour cometh, wherein all that are in the graves shall hear the voice of the Son of God. [29] And they that have done good things, shall come forth unto the resurrection of life; but they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment.

[30] I cannot of myself do any thing. As I hear, so I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of him that sent me.


1 John 3: [8] He that committeth sin is of the devil: for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose, the Son of God appeared, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

[9] Whosoever is born of God, committeth not sin: for his seed abideth in him, and he can not sin, because he is born of God.

[10] In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil. Whosoever is not just, is not of God, nor he that loveth not his brother.


Revelation) 20: [9] And there came down fire from God out of heaven, and devoured them; and the devil, who seduced them, was cast into the pool of fire and brimstone, where both the beast

[10] And the false prophet shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

[11] And I saw a great white throne, and one sitting upon it, from whose face the earth and heaven fled away, and there was no place found for them. [12] And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne, and the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

[13] And the sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and hell gave up their dead that were in them; and they were judged every one according to their works. [14] And hell and death were cast into the pool of fire. This is the second death.

[15] And whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was cast into the pool of fire.


Ezechiel (Ezeckiel) 13: [22] Because with lies you have made the heart of the just to mourn, whom I have not made sorrowful: and have strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his evil way, and live.

[23] Therefore you shall not see vain things, nor divine divinations any more, and I will deliver my people out of your hand: and you shall know that I am the Lord.

Let me save you all some time. Instead of quoting bible verses just go here:
[link to www.kingjamesbibleonline.org]
you will be delighted to find the entire authorized version 1 and authorized version 2 of the book of lies called the Holey Bible. It is called Holey cause it's full of holes.

Now, which one of you chicken-hearted bible spouting cowards are gonna rise to the occasion and tell me where in this bible are the spurious words 'trinity' and 'rapture' that you love to babble on about all the time?

I started this thread hoping for a polite discussion but you all wanted to cut and paste bible verses that make no sense whatsoever. Now, I am gonna get on your case.
Put up or shut up.
Show me a bible verse with the word TRINITY or RAPTURE.
You cannot and you have shamed yourselves and your belief system and your bible and your God. You have proven to be Liars and Cons. No one will ever listen to another word you ever say. It is high noon and you have been called out and you ran away and hid.
Be ashamed, be very ashamed. Let those reading these words look upon your shame and nakedness. Liars always get exposed by seekers of truth.

Rapture: see last post on this thread. Page 1.


Thread: Where is the rapture located in the Bible? And Where can it be found?

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trin·i·ty Pronunciation (trn-t)
n. pl. trin·i·ties
1. A group consisting of three closely related members. Also called triunity.
2. Trinity Theology In most Christian faiths, the union of three divine persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, in one God. Also called Trine.
3. Trinity Trinity Sunday.


trinity [ˈtrɪnɪtɪ]
n pl -ties
1. a group of three
2. the state of being threefold




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trinity
Pronunciation: /ˈtrɪnɪti/

Definition of trinity
noun (plural trinities)

(the Trinity or the Holy Trinity) the three persons of the Christian Godhead; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
a group of three people or things: the wine was the first of a trinity of three excellent vintages
[mass noun] the state of being three: God is said to be trinity in unity