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Okay, but won't trade you my life for my "relationship"
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If you mean a relationship with the real GOD, then HEAVENS YEAH !
"Have a vision of life that inspires you, then try every day to grow closer to the fulfillment of that vision."

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First, you have to deconstruct one religion at a time and tell us why it is false.
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Not really.

All the monotheistic religions consist of the interpretation of Revelation on the basis of the 'fallen' consciousness of the 'thinker' and/or the "self". They are all false for the same reason: they contradict the Truth.

Then you will need to affirm your own beliefs, so that you aren't guilty of pot calling the kettle black.
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There is a difference between belief and knowledge.

The Buddha, for example, was not a Buddhist. He did not believe the doctrine of Buddhism; but he did have a knowledge about consciousness, illusion and reality as a consequence of the receiving of the memories of previous lives.

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So you throw out an incredibly loade word, "religion", and make a blanket statment about it without providing any evidence for your claim? That's not how it works. First, you have to deconstruct one religion at a time and tell us why it is false. Then you will need to affirm your own beliefs, so that you aren't guilty of pot calling the kettle black. Don't be afraid to let us take a stab at the pillars of your beliefs-- naturalism, existentialism, whatever; let's go.
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Read my post above AC and then we'll duel if you want. You get your slingshot and I'll bring...um...my common sense?
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First, we need to know what your beliefs are? Do you subscribe to the ten billion shards of energy theory you posited above? And check the ad hominem attacks at the door. Claiming I bring no common sense to a 10-second old discussion is not a good start.
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2013 and not being a Discordian?

heh heh
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What God the Father considers to be pure and genuine religion is this: to take care of orphans and widows in their suffering and to keep oneself from being corrupted by the world.
(James 1:27)


What humans have a problem with the above religion? What schmuck thinks taking care of orphans and widows is wrong? Who is it that thinks not becoming corrupt is corrupt?

Find God....not religion....and if that man named Jesus of Nazareth never personally slighted you then any anger at him is just fear of the unknown. We'll leave a light on for ya'.

His philosophy is in 4 books totaling about 120 pages. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are known as the Gospels of Jesus Christ. [link to www.e-sword.net] The Good News Bible is easiest to read for first timers. Use the included commentaries for clarity. hf
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When god stops playing the invisible pratt and shows up, takes responsibility for his flawed creation and does something about it, then and only then will I acknowledge his existence.
Until such time I'll treat him like I treat all invisible people...
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Jesus brougt a practice not a religion, the devil invented religion.
Atheism is a religion, the religion of egoism...
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“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.”

-Seneca
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If Satan was to make his mark it would be through religion.

Satan is to believed or not. If he is not how do you know that mind is more enlightened?
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Not all Religions are false! Jesus said "My kingdom is not of this world". This is a fallen and renegade world! It can easily be assumed that the rest of the universe does not do things the way this world does, other wise it would be total chaos.
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The pope has just been informed about this thread. May the lord god almighty show mercy upon you people when he gets ya.
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All religions on this earth are man made and twisted by those for their own purposes.

All major religions have icons in one form or another be it material or a figure head, all have wealth, all have large structures, for psychological purposes to make them look superior, all have been involved in politics in one form or another, all have control of large quantities of people.

All of the above is not spiritual guidance but manipulation and power, and it is excessive materialism which blinds those that follow and in awe..hence more easily manipulated.
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This is true. I am an authentic Chrisitan and the only way to God is through a personal relationship---a solid relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. The ONLY WAY to God. It's not a religion. It is a way of life.
God declares in Isaiah 46 that there is no other God but Him, thaht His Truth is the only faith that foretells the future... He declared the end from the beginning, and from ancient times, foretold all those things which would be.
The Bible is the only Source that tells foretells the future with 100% accuracy--and so we KNOW that our Creator God, and Savior reigns. Religions are very dangerous---they try to work their way to God, many in very bizarre and ungodly ways. Yes, religion is dangerous. The only Truth is in the Creator God. Today is the day of salvation---tomorrow may not come for you or me.
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So you throw out an incredibly loade word, "religion", and make a blanket statment about it without providing any evidence for your claim? That's not how it works. First, you have to deconstruct one religion at a time and tell us why it is false. Then you will need to affirm your own beliefs, so that you aren't guilty of pot calling the kettle black. Don't be afraid to let us take a stab at the pillars of your beliefs-- naturalism, existentialism, whatever; let's go.
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Read my post above AC and then we'll duel if you want. You get your slingshot and I'll bring...um...my common sense?
 Quoting: lasereyes


First, we need to know what your beliefs are? Do you subscribe to the ten billion shards of energy theory you posited above? And check the ad hominem attacks at the door. Claiming I bring no common sense to a 10-second old discussion is not a good start.
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Sorry, I profile all ACs as immediately confrontational. My apologies. Yes, I subscribe to that theory. I don't claim to have all the answers (as the bible, torah and koran do). So let us reason together.
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All religions on this earth are man made and twisted by those for their own purposes.

All major religions have icons in one form or another be it material or a figure head, all have wealth, all have large structures, for psychological purposes to make them look superior, all have been involved in politics in one form or another, all have control of large quantities of people.

All of the above is not spiritual guidance but manipulation and power, and it is excessive materialism which blinds those that follow and in awe..hence more easily manipulated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31346358




This is true. I am an authentic Chrisitan and the only way to God is through a personal relationship---a solid relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. The ONLY WAY to God. It's not a religion. It is a way of life.
God declares in Isaiah 46 that there is no other God but Him, thaht His Truth is the only faith that foretells the future... He declared the end from the beginning, and from ancient times, foretold all those things which would be.
The Bible is the only Source that tells foretells the future with 100% accuracy--and so we KNOW that our Creator God, and Savior reigns. Religions are very dangerous---they try to work their way to God, many in very bizarre and ungodly ways. Yes, religion is dangerous. The only Truth is in the Creator God. Today is the day of salvation---tomorrow may not come for you or me.
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You described it in one " A way of Life" ,people who have nothing better to do than shove the dreams of a bunch of savages from 2000 yrs ago ,they also worshipped cows ,pieces of wood ,funny objects ,drawings ,statues ,the usual my god is bigger/ better / stronger / more arm/ more legs /weirder/ and if you don't listen we will get him too kill our enemies ,the only true religion in fact would be science it is the only thing that can TRUTHFULLY tell you how the earth was made ,if you believe the bible it would have you believe in Adam and Steve (or is it EVE)in the "garden of eden" talking snakes etc, The Bible is clear that Adam and Eve were perfect humans from the time of their creation and did not evolve from lower life forms. when science tells us about Neanderthals and evolution ,now who would you believe there ,and the only things that are 100% accurate is this ,you are born ,you live , procreate(not 100% accurate due to person etc) you die ,this is accurate and can't be dismissed ,if tomorrow don't come it might be thru "doom" ie asteroid ,hit by bus,or likewise "doom" ,it definately wont be thru' being smitten by god. 5a5a
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All religions on this earth are man made and twisted by those for their own purposes.

All major religions have icons in one form or another be it material or a figure head, all have wealth, all have large structures, for psychological purposes to make them look superior, all have been involved in politics in one form or another, all have control of large quantities of people.

All of the above is not spiritual guidance but manipulation and power, and it is excessive materialism which blinds those that follow and in awe..hence more easily manipulated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31346358




This is true. I am an authentic Chrisitan and the only way to God is through a personal relationship---a solid relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. The ONLY WAY to God. It's not a religion. It is a way of life.
God declares in Isaiah 46 that there is no other God but Him, thaht His Truth is the only faith that foretells the future... He declared the end from the beginning, and from ancient times, foretold all those things which would be.
The Bible is the only Source that tells foretells the future with 100% accuracy--and so we KNOW that our Creator God, and Savior reigns. Religions are very dangerous---they try to work their way to God, many in very bizarre and ungodly ways. Yes, religion is dangerous. The only Truth is in the Creator God. Today is the day of salvation---tomorrow may not come for you or me.
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I found God without going through Jesus. How do you explain that?

Your way is not the ONLY way, it is only ONE way. And yes, Christianity is a religion. Anything that makes up rules and requirements to know God is a religion. Any belief system that is based on an external source, such as the Bible is a religion.
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Without Biblical Truth each man will "do what is right in his own eyes," and we plainly see how that how that has not worked out. Without our Creator, there would be NOTHING. The world's religions and the churchianity which merchandies the gospel of Christ are all dangeous. But the only true safe haven for the soul is in Christ.
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All religions on this earth are man made and twisted by those for their own purposes.

All major religions have icons in one form or another be it material or a figure head, all have wealth, all have large structures, for psychological purposes to make them look superior, all have been involved in politics in one form or another, all have control of large quantities of people.

All of the above is not spiritual guidance but manipulation and power, and it is excessive materialism which blinds those that follow and in awe..hence more easily manipulated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31346358




This is true. I am an authentic Chrisitan and the only way to God is through a personal relationship---a solid relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. The ONLY WAY to God. It's not a religion. It is a way of life.
God declares in Isaiah 46 that there is no other God but Him, thaht His Truth is the only faith that foretells the future... He declared the end from the beginning, and from ancient times, foretold all those things which would be.
The Bible is the only Source that tells foretells the future with 100% accuracy--and so we KNOW that our Creator God, and Savior reigns. Religions are very dangerous---they try to work their way to God, many in very bizarre and ungodly ways. Yes, religion is dangerous. The only Truth is in the Creator God. Today is the day of salvation---tomorrow may not come for you or me.
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I found God without going through Jesus. How do you explain that?

Your way is not the ONLY way, it is only ONE way. And yes, Christianity is a religion. Anything that makes up rules and requirements to know God is a religion. Any belief system that is based on an external source, such as the Bible is a religion.
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No one can find God without going through Jesus. From the lips of God Himself: "Unless you believe that I am He, you will die IN YOUR SINS." Jesus is the ONLY way.
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Without Biblical Truth each man will "do what is right in his own eyes," and we plainly see how that how that has not worked out. Without our Creator, there would be NOTHING. The world's religions and the churchianity which merchandies the gospel of Christ are all dangeous. But the only true safe haven for the soul is in Christ.
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And which "creator" would that be? The old white man with a white beard sitting on a cloud scaring people into worshipping him or the one who rewards mass murderers with 72 virgins or the one that directed jewish kings to slaughter entire villages, including the children?
Your creator, not my creator. Even if one of those three is my creator, I wouldn't claim it as such.inquisitio
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I was having a personal conversation with the lord god almighty the other day, and I asked him: "Good lord, why, even when we are good and peaceful, do you bother us with all sorts of problems?" And the good lord said: "Fuuuuuuuuuuuck yoooooooooou."
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You might be right OP.

If not for the existence of a man named Jesus Christ.

Proven by historical documents, books, items and eye witness testimonies.

Man made.......the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

Thank God for Jesus Christ the son of God.
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All religions on this earth are man made and twisted by those for their own purposes.

All major religions have icons in one form or another be it material or a figure head, all have wealth, all have large structures, for psychological purposes to make them look superior, all have been involved in politics in one form or another, all have control of large quantities of people.

All of the above is not spiritual guidance but manipulation and power, and it is excessive materialism which blinds those that follow and in awe..hence more easily manipulated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31346358




This is true. I am an authentic Chrisitan and the only way to God is through a personal relationship---a solid relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. The ONLY WAY to God. It's not a religion. It is a way of life.
God declares in Isaiah 46 that there is no other God but Him, thaht His Truth is the only faith that foretells the future... He declared the end from the beginning, and from ancient times, foretold all those things which would be.
The Bible is the only Source that tells foretells the future with 100% accuracy--and so we KNOW that our Creator God, and Savior reigns. Religions are very dangerous---they try to work their way to God, many in very bizarre and ungodly ways. Yes, religion is dangerous. The only Truth is in the Creator God. Today is the day of salvation---tomorrow may not come for you or me.
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I found God without going through Jesus. How do you explain that?

Your way is not the ONLY way, it is only ONE way. And yes, Christianity is a religion. Anything that makes up rules and requirements to know God is a religion. Any belief system that is based on an external source, such as the Bible is a religion.
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No one can find God without going through Jesus. From the lips of God Himself: "Unless you believe that I am He, you will die IN YOUR SINS." Jesus is the ONLY way.
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I would laugh like a drain if one day aliens came and said they started life here to watch evolution from the beginning .rockon, or if they do find life on other planets would you declare war because they dont have the same religious beliefs ,its the same old story from the beginning of time ,one group against another whatever the animal ,but we have the power of imagination etc ,so we can make up stories ,when you live in the "stone age" you believe in "stories" dontcha.when you live in the biblical age you believe in whatever scares you hiding
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You might be right OP.

If not for the existence of a man named Jesus Christ.

Proven by historical documents, books, items and eye witness testimonies.

Man made.......the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

Thank God for Jesus Christ the son of God.
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Only according to christians, not according to Jews. And Muslims only consider Jesus a "Great Prophet."

Oh and why doesn't god heal amputees?
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You might be right OP.

If not for the existence of a man named Jesus Christ.

Proven by historical documents, books, items and eye witness testimonies.

Man made.......the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

Thank God for Jesus Christ the son of God.
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Only according to christians, not according to Jews. And Muslims only consider Jesus a "Great Prophet."

Oh and why doesn't god heal amputees?
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Reminds me of this A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.

Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."

The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."

So the rowboat went on.

Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."

To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the motorboat went on.

Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."

To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.

Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"

To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"

lol 5a
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All religions on this earth are man made and twisted by those for their own purposes.

All major religions have icons in one form or another be it material or a figure head, all have wealth, all have large structures, for psychological purposes to make them look superior, all have been involved in politics in one form or another, all have control of large quantities of people.

All of the above is not spiritual guidance but manipulation and power, and it is excessive materialism which blinds those that follow and in awe..hence more easily manipulated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31346358




This is true. I am an authentic Chrisitan and the only way to God is through a personal relationship---a solid relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. The ONLY WAY to God. It's not a religion. It is a way of life.
God declares in Isaiah 46 that there is no other God but Him, thaht His Truth is the only faith that foretells the future... He declared the end from the beginning, and from ancient times, foretold all those things which would be.
The Bible is the only Source that tells foretells the future with 100% accuracy--and so we KNOW that our Creator God, and Savior reigns. Religions are very dangerous---they try to work their way to God, many in very bizarre and ungodly ways. Yes, religion is dangerous. The only Truth is in the Creator God. Today is the day of salvation---tomorrow may not come for you or me.
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I found God without going through Jesus. How do you explain that?

Your way is not the ONLY way, it is only ONE way. And yes, Christianity is a religion. Anything that makes up rules and requirements to know God is a religion. Any belief system that is based on an external source, such as the Bible is a religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7244743




No one can find God without going through Jesus. From the lips of God Himself: "Unless you believe that I am He, you will die IN YOUR SINS." Jesus is the ONLY way.
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And of course you have the usual threat at the end how do you know god said that you only have the proof of man,man said that to another man ,who said that to another man ,it is based on what i said earlier about my god is bigger than your god ,my god can do this to you ,etc, etc.
So all we have is being threatened like the big brother scenario ,you do what i said coz i will get my big brother onto you .
Tell me do you believe in prehistoric man
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The original bible was the production of the early christian church what was the fate of the religious text of other religions? Man made intervention that's what.
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Reminds me of this A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.

Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."

The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."

So the rowboat went on.

Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."

To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the motorboat went on.

Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."

To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.

Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"

To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"

lol 5a


*Sigh* Don't quit your day job and those are crickets you hear chirping.
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Reminds me of this A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.

Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."

The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."

So the rowboat went on.

Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."

To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the motorboat went on.

Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."

To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.

Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"

To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"

lol 5a
 Quoting: lasereyes


*Sigh* Don't quit your day job and those are crickets you hear chirping.


Now you have me confused ?????? it lightens up yet another battle between science and religion ,who wins ,who loses ,does it matter ,today it might be science ,tomorrow it might be religion ,live/die its all the same ,we are only here in the twinkling of an eye compared to the age of the universe , but in that time man can use a lot of things as threats hiding
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“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.”

-Seneca
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OP, have you ever been in combat or raped?

Trust me, if you are evr placed in situation to the likes, you will instantly hope for faith even if it's religious in nature,
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faith and religion are not one in the same, religion is the organized infrastruture of a faith...faith is simply a persons realtionship to a higher power
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faith and religion are not one in the same, religion is the organized infrastruture of a faith...faith is simply a persons realtionship to a higher power


Correction...faith is simply a persons belief in a higher power.
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faith and religion are not one in the same, religion is the organized infrastruture of a faith...faith is simply a persons realtionship to a higher power
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Correction...faith is simply a persons belief in a higher power.


I believe in a lot of things in the modern age ,not things that people believed they would be smitten by or used as leverage / blackmail over another human being ,look at how many human beings starved or died in the name of religion or should i say how many people had to go hungry after some guy rattled a collection tray in front of them and they were forced to give their money ,or when the church took peoples homes ,it still happens in fact, or when some person living near a church who was forced to repair a church roof by the church because of a law dating back to the 18th century (true case, they lost their home because of this and was made bankrupt by the church) so the church can get richer,what a con job, talk about the richest landowners in the world mainly because its been going on for 2000 yrs ,noone should have that much power over someone ,how many starving and homeless popes have you seen .5a
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I wish someone would use the copy and paste button correctly ,see that little bubble with 3 dots in it use it ,because its irritating lazereyes when your being corrected.hiding





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