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A real dog fighting incident between Iran, USA and France in 1984 Ira-Iraq war over PG.

 
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the video is back on youtube maybe from someone else.


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OP Thank you so much for sharing this video
I am very amazed on how excellent the pilots were ... It's obvious that Americans don't like to hear this since their patriotic hearts beat against it.

It's common logic that US doesn't like to mention this to their public
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btw they weren't they Saudi Arabian air force?
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Re: A real dog fighting incident between Iran, USA and France in 1984 Ira-Iraq war over PG.
This is an Iranian cg animation of a real unreported by the west incident that took place in 1984. In the incident a squadron of US eagles escorting and a squadron of French Mirage to attack Iranian commercial ships in Persian Gulf. Iran scrambles 2 phantoms and the Iranian phantoms engage the half a dozen of US eagles. After shooting down 2 US eagles the Iranian phantoms one hits a US eagle and the other get hits but manages to fly back to Iran and when the US eagles come to finish the job 8 Iranian tomcat come in just time and using long range phoenix shot down every remaining 4 US F-15 eagles and escort the damaged Iranian phantom back to base while the French mirages attack the Iranian commercial ships.

clip:

[/youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
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OK so you supply a Iranian Government CGI Video of this supposed incident and some words with absolutely nothing to back it up besides this "iran" cgi video that proves absolutely nothing besides maybe some propaganda.

And ok..so you hate America, no one cares that you hate America and no one honestly really cares if this took place or not back in 1984 during the loooooong Iran/Iraq 9 year war that ended in a stalemate. With such bad ass military you'd think Iran could of Man-Handled Iraq like America did two times, eh?

Are you an Iranian living in Canada? Or just one of them Canadian's that have extreme hate, envy and jealousy of the United States and Americans? which is it?

Your looking for a war of words and you simply arent going to get much of it because most of us know America has a far superior military force making your 20 year old propaganda utterly stupid
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at the beginning of the cg animation it explains in details the incident in farsi that took place in 1984 and the animations is based about. It also tells of interview with the remaining pilots and from all the info gathered the animation is made.
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the video is back on youtube maybe from someone else.


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OP Thank you so much for sharing this video
I am very amazed on how excellent the pilots were ... It's obvious that Americans don't like to hear this since their patriotic hearts beat against it.

It's common logic that US doesn't like to mention this to their public
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btw they weren't they Saudi Arabian air force?
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in the clip the pilots mention that f-15s are comming from saudi arabia but saudi arabia at that time had received a few F-15s and the f-15s communicated in perfect english made the pilots believe that they are American eagles or maybe american pilots using few saudi f-15s maybe???

Need to pause and pay close attention to the marking of the eagles to see which country they are from. The mirages have french flag on their tails that shows its french and the Iraqi hind attack helicopter had Iraqi emblem.
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Re: A real dog fighting incident between Iran, USA and France in 1984 Ira-Iraq war over PG.
the video is back on youtube maybe from someone else.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16689814


OP Thank you so much for sharing this video
I am very amazed on how excellent the pilots were ... It's obvious that Americans don't like to hear this since their patriotic hearts beat against it.

It's common logic that US doesn't like to mention this to their public
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most kills made by F-14s because of their phoenix long range missiles also known as 6 for 6 kill missile (firing 6 and kill 6 target simultaneously). The tomcat can lock on 18 targets and fire 6 phoenix simultaneously at 6 of them at BVR (far beyond viewing range). So 8 f-14s each firing 6 phoenix simultaneously that would be 48 phoenixes at BVR is very scary for any pilots. but since they were in total 9 F-15s and 9 mirages, no need for all the phoenixes.
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Re: A real dog fighting incident between Iran, USA and France in 1984 Ira-Iraq war over PG.
beside the 6 phoenixes tomcats also carry sidewinder and sparrow missiles.

That's the original F-14s of 80s and 90s. Today, the Iranian F-14s have replaced the phoenixes with a similar and perhaps more deadly Iranian made long range AAM called SEJIL based on HAWK SAM (sometimes called air-to-air version of HAWK (homing all the way to kill)missile). They also carry phoenixes but they are retired for now.
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Re: A real dog fighting incident between Iran, USA and France in 1984 Ira-Iraq war over PG.
I asked someone able to read farsi read the summery of the event mentioned in the beginning of the clip. It says from all sources researched and analysed in summery that on 8 khordad 1363 (Iranian year)(should be 1984) Saudi F-15s under control of US pilot and saudi pilots (one of them was a US navy captain named Bill tipien or teepen (can not spell correctly from the farsi translation) (was a head trainer to saudi arabian air-force)who was advising the pilots and was in one of the F-15s to trap and lure any Iranian fighters and shoot them down also as a experience for the pilots. He also advised the pilots to not fear since they have F-15s and is superior to Iranian F-4s and F-5s. They did not considered the Iranian F-14s the were in the vicinity with their re-fueling aircraft.

So the mission started and the squadron of F-15s with the help of American pilots flew toward Iranian shipping and territorial air space. That's when Iranian floating radar hidden in a super cargo ship detected them and asked for scrambles and 2 Iranian F-4s scrambled to intercept the comming enemy.

The rest of the incident as you can see in the clip.
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Forgot to add that at the end the translation was that in June 1984 BBC announced that because of the air battles between Iran and Saudi arabia now the US has officially entered the war against Iran.

Also An american news journal around that time announced that US pilots are in control of Saudi eagles in the war with Iranian air force.
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Re: A real dog fighting incident between Iran, USA and France in 1984 Ira-Iraq war over PG.
This is an Iranian cg animation of a real unreported by the west incident that took place in 1984. In the incident a squadron of US eagles escorting and a squadron of French Mirage to attack Iranian commercial ships in Persian Gulf. Iran scrambles 2 phantoms and the Iranian phantoms engage the half a dozen of US eagles. After shooting down 2 US eagles the Iranian phantoms one hits a US eagle and the other get hits but manages to fly back to Iran and when the US eagles come to finish the job 8 Iranian tomcat come in just time and using long range phoenix shot down every remaining 4 US F-15 eagles and escort the damaged Iranian phantom back to base while the French mirages attack the Iranian commercial ships.

clip:

[/youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16689814


OK so you supply a Iranian Government CGI Video of this supposed incident and some words with absolutely nothing to back it up besides this "iran" cgi video that proves absolutely nothing besides maybe some propaganda.

And ok..so you hate America, no one cares that you hate America and no one honestly really cares if this took place or not back in 1984 during the loooooong Iran/Iraq 9 year war that ended in a stalemate. With such bad ass military you'd think Iran could of Man-Handled Iraq like America did two times, eh?

Are you an Iranian living in Canada? Or just one of them Canadian's that have extreme hate, envy and jealousy of the United States and Americans? which is it?

Your looking for a war of words and you simply arent going to get much of it because most of us know America has a far superior military force making your 20 year old propaganda utterly stupid
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Dude you need to take a chill pill.
who knows ? maybe they are telling the truth.
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