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| pi Xenonem Inde Crucis User ID: 20063747 01/02/2013 10:46 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you sure that your brother just didn't lose his financial security because of, you know, the depression brought on by banksters, and then fell into drug abuse out of desperation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31130701 I'm sorry, but I've used allmost every kind of street drug except for a few, and there haven't been any that weren't self limiting. Even after doing very STRONG opioids for a couple of weeks straight once, I didn't even have withdrawls (not EVERYONE gets withdrawls, some get a little, some have strong withdrawls). I mentione that because I've never just gone bananas over some substance, and I have often had completely unrestricted access to them whan I was doing them. Most people ABUSE them out of desperation, like to fill a void, rather than simply because "drugs are fun wheeee!", or because they are these super demonically soul seizing chemicals. One wonders don't they... . .... "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ .... - Stellatus ocula, ex alchimia (A) Spiritus Sancti; quoque puerum (de sinistra) et puellam (de ius) - {3360 5492 787 6138} ~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
| pi Xenonem Inde Crucis User ID: 20063747 01/02/2013 10:48 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: pi Lies. Read and weep. "MDPV undergoes CYP450 2D6, 2C19, 1A2, and COMT phase 1 metabolism (liver) into methylcatechol and pyrrolidine, which in turn are glucuronated (uridine 5'-diphospho-glucuronosyl-transferase) allowing it to be excreted by the kidneys, with only a small fraction of the metabolites being excreted into the stools. No free pyrrolidine will be detected in the urine. Molecularly, this is seen as demethylenation of methylenedioxypyrovalerone (CYP2D6), followed by methylation of the aromatic ring via catechol-O-methyl transferase. Then hydroxylation of both the aromatic ring and side chain takes place followed by and oxidation of the pyrrolidine ring to the corresponding lactam, with subsequent detachment and ring opening to the corresponding carboxylic acid." Half life approximately 1-2 hours. Pathetic attempt, by the way. ALL methylated substances are hepatoxic. They damage your liver a little more each time. Do enough and your dead. Dude. Errr... No they aren't? Evidence? To use your favorite term "fucking google it". Enjoy your science sandwich. ![]() While I'm getting some sources, how about pointing out the responsible enzyme? Hmmm....? . .... "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ .... - Stellatus ocula, ex alchimia (A) Spiritus Sancti; quoque puerum (de sinistra) et puellam (de ius) - {3360 5492 787 6138} ~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31130701 01/02/2013 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His Dr. told him that the chemicals will be in his system for 5 years. Please!!! Die! So the people who have never tried bath salts can never view your praises of the poison. Saving 1 or maybe 100's of lives is far more valuable than your own poison praising worthless life ever could be! Lies. Read and weep. "MDPV undergoes CYP450 2D6, 2C19, 1A2, and COMT phase 1 metabolism (liver) into methylcatechol and pyrrolidine, which in turn are glucuronated (uridine 5'-diphospho-glucuronosyl-transferase) allowing it to be excreted by the kidneys, with only a small fraction of the metabolites being excreted into the stools. No free pyrrolidine will be detected in the urine. Molecularly, this is seen as demethylenation of methylenedioxypyrovalerone (CYP2D6), followed by methylation of the aromatic ring via catechol-O-methyl transferase. Then hydroxylation of both the aromatic ring and side chain takes place followed by and oxidation of the pyrrolidine ring to the corresponding lactam, with subsequent detachment and ring opening to the corresponding carboxylic acid." Half life approximately 1-2 hours. Pathetic attempt, by the way. ALL methylated substances are hepatoxic. They damage your liver a little more each time. Do enough and your dead. Dude. Citation?????? |
| pi Xenonem Inde Crucis User ID: 20063747 01/02/2013 10:48 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31381447 His Dr. told him that the chemicals will be in his system for 5 years. Please!!! Die! So the people who have never tried bath salts can never view your praises of the poison. Saving 1 or maybe 100's of lives is far more valuable than your own poison praising worthless life ever could be! Lies. Read and weep. "MDPV undergoes CYP450 2D6, 2C19, 1A2, and COMT phase 1 metabolism (liver) into methylcatechol and pyrrolidine, which in turn are glucuronated (uridine 5'-diphospho-glucuronosyl-transferase) allowing it to be excreted by the kidneys, with only a small fraction of the metabolites being excreted into the stools. No free pyrrolidine will be detected in the urine. Molecularly, this is seen as demethylenation of methylenedioxypyrovalerone (CYP2D6), followed by methylation of the aromatic ring via catechol-O-methyl transferase. Then hydroxylation of both the aromatic ring and side chain takes place followed by and oxidation of the pyrrolidine ring to the corresponding lactam, with subsequent detachment and ring opening to the corresponding carboxylic acid." Half life approximately 1-2 hours. Pathetic attempt, by the way. ALL methylated substances are hepatoxic. They damage your liver a little more each time. Do enough and your dead. Dude. Citation?????? He should be able to just name the enzyme. This is a deliberate attempt at debasing. . .... "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ .... - Stellatus ocula, ex alchimia (A) Spiritus Sancti; quoque puerum (de sinistra) et puellam (de ius) - {3360 5492 787 6138} ~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31381447 01/02/2013 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you just on here spouting volatile shit so that you can see how many negatives you get? Maybe getting a new ID and trying to blow the old one up? I mean GD....you can't surely defend this shit...made in communist china...shipped to the USA to cause as much death and devastation as possible from an enemy state. |
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| pi Xenonem Inde Crucis User ID: 20063747 01/02/2013 10:51 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you just on here spouting volatile shit so that you can see how many negatives you get? Maybe getting a new ID and trying to blow the old one up? I mean GD....you can't surely defend this shit...made in communist china...shipped to the USA to cause as much death and devastation as possible from an enemy state. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31381447 HAHAHAHA Quoting: pi You ought to know, coward, that I am an expert neuro-chemist. Thanks again for the laughs mate! Not to mention the validation of my viewpoint... your viewpoint is shit.. 'neuro-chemist defending bath salts' Thanks again for the laughs Don't see you challenging me... LOL For truth, man. TRUTH. Shouldn't have to post that. . .... "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ .... - Stellatus ocula, ex alchimia (A) Spiritus Sancti; quoque puerum (de sinistra) et puellam (de ius) - {3360 5492 787 6138} ~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
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| The Myth User ID: 25003698 01/02/2013 10:56 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See that's just it buddy. BS threads like these MAKE MORE HYPE. You think a kid is gonna see a headline like "Bathsalts: The New Cocaine/Meth/Whatever" and NOT want to go out and buy them? Exactly. It's the forbidden fruit syndrome....it's the same reason that countries with more relaxed drug laws (Netherlands, Portugal, etc) have LOWER usage rates than countries with tougher laws. FACT. The one guy in this thread said it himself...his brother started using because they could pass drug tests...if the popular and relatively harmless recreational drugs (weed being the most popular) were legal, people wouldn;t need to resort to cheap highs from bath salts and shit cooked up in basement labs. And for this retard: I agree with you! I think we need to start looking at the people spouting benefits of this poison and try to do our best to eliminate them from the earth. You need to learn some fucking reading comprehension...all the OP is saying is "This stuff is not good for you (from a physiological standpoint), but it's not nearly as bad as the media is making it sound (coincidentally, a popular scare tactic the media likes to use with drugs of all kinds). Last time I checked, that is a FAR cry from "spouting benefits". Wouldn't it be great to heal the world, with only a song? |
| pi Xenonem Inde Crucis User ID: 20063747 01/02/2013 10:56 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice find. LOL! . .... "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ .... - Stellatus ocula, ex alchimia (A) Spiritus Sancti; quoque puerum (de sinistra) et puellam (de ius) - {3360 5492 787 6138} ~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
| pi Xenonem Inde Crucis User ID: 20063747 01/02/2013 10:57 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See that's just it buddy. BS threads like these MAKE MORE HYPE. You think a kid is gonna see a headline like "Bathsalts: The New Cocaine/Meth/Whatever" and NOT want to go out and buy them? Exactly. It's the forbidden fruit syndrome....it's the same reason that countries with more relaxed drug laws (Netherlands, Portugal, etc) have LOWER usage rates than countries with tougher laws. FACT. The one guy in this thread said it himself...his brother started using because they could pass drug tests...if the popular and relatively harmless recreational drugs (weed being the most popular) were legal, people wouldn;t need to resort to cheap highs from bath salts and shit cooked up in basement labs. And for this retard: I agree with you! I think we need to start looking at the people spouting benefits of this poison and try to do our best to eliminate them from the earth. You need to learn some fucking reading comprehension...all the OP is saying is "This stuff is not good for you (from a physiological standpoint), but it's not nearly as bad as the media is making it sound (coincidentally, a popular scare tactic the media likes to use with drugs of all kinds). Last time I checked, that is a FAR cry from "spouting benefits". Thanks mate, always great to see another who can't tolerate BS. Emphasis mine, by the way. Last Edited by Azeratel Axo on 01/02/2013 10:59 PM . .... "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ .... - Stellatus ocula, ex alchimia (A) Spiritus Sancti; quoque puerum (de sinistra) et puellam (de ius) - {3360 5492 787 6138} ~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30070697 01/02/2013 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you just on here spouting volatile shit so that you can see how many negatives you get? Maybe getting a new ID and trying to blow the old one up? I mean GD....you can't surely defend this shit...made in communist china...shipped to the USA to cause as much death and devastation as possible from an enemy state. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31381447 HAHAHAHA Quoting: pi You ought to know, coward, that I am an expert neuro-chemist. Thanks again for the laughs mate! Not to mention the validation of my viewpoint... your viewpoint is shit.. 'neuro-chemist defending bath salts' Thanks again for the laughs Don't see you challenging me... LOL For truth, man. TRUTH. Shouldn't have to post that. I don't even care bro, bath salts are retarded |
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| pi Xenonem Inde Crucis User ID: 20063747 01/02/2013 11:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you just on here spouting volatile shit so that you can see how many negatives you get? Maybe getting a new ID and trying to blow the old one up? I mean GD....you can't surely defend this shit...made in communist china...shipped to the USA to cause as much death and devastation as possible from an enemy state. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31381447 HAHAHAHA Quoting: pi You ought to know, coward, that I am an expert neuro-chemist. Thanks again for the laughs mate! Not to mention the validation of my viewpoint... your viewpoint is shit.. 'neuro-chemist defending bath salts' Thanks again for the laughs Don't see you challenging me... LOL For truth, man. TRUTH. Shouldn't have to post that. I don't even care bro, bath salts are retarded Agreed mate! They certainly ain't the powdered horn of Satan either. Last Edited by Azeratel Axo on 01/02/2013 11:01 PM . .... "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ .... - Stellatus ocula, ex alchimia (A) Spiritus Sancti; quoque puerum (de sinistra) et puellam (de ius) - {3360 5492 787 6138} ~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
| anon User ID: 7881256 01/02/2013 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i find this thread very strange. you see, it takes a weak mind to sucumb to any sort of addiction whether it be alcohol, tobacco, bath salts, or even MJ. that being said most of us are weak minded fools. and don't try to tell me some drugs aren't addictive. if you smoke MJ for 12 years every day and then quit you're going to get some sweaty palms and be irratible. and the withdrawls from such a prolonged exposure to MJ are wussyfarts compared to some of the others. but it all begins with mental strength. hmmmmm i'm going to stick this rig in my arm, hmmmmmm i'm going to drink till i drop, hmmmmm i'm going to asphixiate on 2 packs a day... it's all the same. and it's not just drugs that are addictive... moderate or become one of the others |
| Fuck Hole User ID: 26309050 01/02/2013 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agree with Pi 100%. To the gent who's 22 y/o got fucked up on Bath Salts... instead of making him smell your whiskey breath while you fingered his asshole, maybe if you should have raised the little fuck to not dabble in drugs? I've indulged in bath salts among every other drugs on the market on a recreational basis and there isn't a single substance out there that can't be controlled if you aren't a weak ass little bitch. |
| biscuits and gravy User ID: 1072087 01/02/2013 11:05 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() Anyone reading this, Google "methylenedioxypyrovalerone", and "death toll" or "danger". It should be revealing. Don't listen to the talking heads kids. Bath Salts are considered to be this generations version of the 1960's......."Reefer Madness" My Old Handles Member ID: 69905 Handle: ***DRAGOON*** & Member ID: 47743 Handle: El Samyaza (The Ban Hammer Strikes Hard...lol) |
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| pi Xenonem Inde Crucis User ID: 20063747 01/02/2013 11:09 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The media hypes the shit out of everything, look what they're doing to guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26409781 . .... "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ .... - Stellatus ocula, ex alchimia (A) Spiritus Sancti; quoque puerum (de sinistra) et puellam (de ius) - {3360 5492 787 6138} ~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
| pi Xenonem Inde Crucis User ID: 20063747 01/02/2013 11:11 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() Anyone reading this, Google "methylenedioxypyrovalerone", and "death toll" or "danger". It should be revealing. Don't listen to the talking heads kids. Bath Salts are considered to be this generations version of the 1960's......."Reefer Madness" Then you'll love this next one, dude: Guess what was the first "gateway drug", circa 1930? Heroin. It'll lead ya to that devil-weed... LOL . .... "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ .... - Stellatus ocula, ex alchimia (A) Spiritus Sancti; quoque puerum (de sinistra) et puellam (de ius) - {3360 5492 787 6138} ~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
| jj24seven User ID: 30617504 01/02/2013 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | about bath salt.... they call it as such but remember that bath salt is pretty damn close to sea salt. Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker well. those white crystals are geneticly engeinered. Does anybody remember Synthia? Bp oil spill, 2010, Corexit 9500 + synthia synthetic bacteria + sea salt? Crude oil = Pandora box. ever heard of a theory that the dinosaurs became instinc because of that Prehistoric virus that lives inside crude oil. Yet we are told that dead dinosaurs created crude oil, However there is a problem with the theory. We never actually were capable to prove that bones turn to crude oil over time and under heavy pressure. "in the game "Extermination" published by deep space in 2001 for the ps2. You discover a virus that use Water as a medium for growing and react extremly well to higher temperatures. Cold temp keeps it under control. "oddly, just like X-files:fight the future and Prometheus". in the game extermination you discover that this virus is a 60,000 years old alien pathogen that crash landed on earth and was kept in antartica. (the black slimy oilly virus from x-files:fight the future, ODDLY, reffers to a simillar region.) oh and guess what. Artic waters are reknown to be Extremly SALTY! Crude oil = Pandora box. Synthia = Pandora box Key! "What we have here is an INCREASED incubation time and REDUCED mortality rate. In short we are fucked" - prototype 2009 Activision. you dear friend have helped with so many questions i've been having...i too was questioning the mental (zombie) effects that have yet to be released (in the back of my mind, i've always felt the warmer weather trigger the waterways)...since the sinkhole and odd wildfires (yes, fire patrol was all along mississippi basin)but only due to the toxic dump from the louisiana sinkhole. also the oil footprint matches (200 miles inland) the BP oil spill. this makes complete sense and I'm worried everyone who eats wildlife or drinks tap water may be effected. do you have a thread where i could read more? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30070697 01/02/2013 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you just on here spouting volatile shit so that you can see how many negatives you get? Maybe getting a new ID and trying to blow the old one up? I mean GD....you can't surely defend this shit...made in communist china...shipped to the USA to cause as much death and devastation as possible from an enemy state. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31381447 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30070697 your viewpoint is shit.. 'neuro-chemist defending bath salts' Thanks again for the laughs Don't see you challenging me... LOL For truth, man. TRUTH. Shouldn't have to post that. I don't even care bro, bath salts are retarded Agreed mate! They certainly ain't the powdered horn of Satan either. unfortunately Ive seen the truth first hand, you cant tell me nothing Mr expert... lol |
| pi Xenonem Inde Crucis User ID: 20063747 01/02/2013 11:24 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | unfortunately Ive seen the truth first hand, you cant tell me nothing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30070697 Mr expert... lol Maybe if you re-post that 10 times it'll mean something. . .... "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ .... - Stellatus ocula, ex alchimia (A) Spiritus Sancti; quoque puerum (de sinistra) et puellam (de ius) - {3360 5492 787 6138} ~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
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| pi Xenonem Inde Crucis User ID: 20063747 01/02/2013 11:35 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agree with Pi 100%. Quoting: Fuck Hole 26309050 To the gent who's 22 y/o got fucked up on Bath Salts... instead of making him smell your whiskey breath while you fingered his asshole, maybe if you should have raised the little fuck to not dabble in drugs? I've indulged in bath salts among every other drugs on the market on a recreational basis and there isn't a single substance out there that can't be controlled if you aren't a weak ass little bitch. unfortunately Ive seen the truth first hand, you cant tell me nothing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30070697 Mr expert... lol Maybe if you re-post that 10 times it'll mean something. why you mad tho Mad? No, I just hate liars. In this society, that will pass for madness. LOL Note the quote change guys. Here's a shill for ya. . .... "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ .... - Stellatus ocula, ex alchimia (A) Spiritus Sancti; quoque puerum (de sinistra) et puellam (de ius) - {3360 5492 787 6138} ~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30070697 01/02/2013 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agree with Pi 100%. Quoting: Fuck Hole 26309050 To the gent who's 22 y/o got fucked up on Bath Salts... instead of making him smell your whiskey breath while you fingered his asshole, maybe if you should have raised the little fuck to not dabble in drugs? I've indulged in bath salts among every other drugs on the market on a recreational basis and there isn't a single substance out there that can't be controlled if you aren't a weak ass little bitch. unfortunately Ive seen the truth first hand, you cant tell me nothing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30070697 Mr expert... lol Maybe if you re-post that 10 times it'll mean something. why you mad tho Mad? No, I just hate liars. In this society, that will pass for madness. LOL Note the quote change guys. Here's a shill for ya. whatever |