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Agree with Pi 100%.

To the gent who's 22 y/o got fucked up on Bath Salts... instead of making him smell your whiskey breath while you fingered his asshole, maybe if you should have raised the little fuck to not dabble in drugs?

I've indulged in bath salts among every other drugs on the market on a recreational basis and there isn't a single substance out there that can't be controlled if you aren't a weak ass little bitch.



dance
 Quoting: Fuck Hole 26309050


Agree with Pi 100%.


I've indulged in bath salts



dance
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we can tell
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30070697


...


Maybe if you re-post that 10 times it'll mean something.

fuckoff2
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why you mad tho
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Mad?

No, I just hate liars. thumbs

In this society, that will pass for madness. LOL

Note the quote change guys.

Here's a shill for ya.

thumbs
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whatever
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YO.

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Negative karma to me just now:

"Your a know it all asshole! you dont know shit your a big dummy!"

Keep it coming cowards...

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For anyone from South Florida:

I just met you
And this is crazy
I'm high on bath salts
Your face looks tasty...
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For anyone from South Florida:

I just met you
And this is crazy
I'm high on bath salts
Your face looks tasty...
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Hehehe...

lmao

peace
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bsflag

Anyone reading this,

Google "methylenedioxypyrovalerone", and "death toll" or "danger".

It should be revealing. Don't listen to the talking heads kids.
 Quoting: pi



Sorry but I watched my brother go form making 6 figures to homeless because of this stuff.

He was 100% blacked out for over three weeks and that was just what he admited to. He ended up with an esophageal hemorrhage. He ripped his skin off his chest in sheets to get the "bugs out". He chewed most his tongue off & his teath fell out. Destroyed his home, called the cops and handed them the drugs because he was so paranoid.

No one has seen him in a year. He looked worse than a meth addict in his mug shot. This drug took him from his kids by his own choice.

Cleveland police said he was the worst person they ever took in and that says a lot for a person who had a desk job just a few months before.

I buried a lot of people form drugs, more then I can count on all my fingers and toes together now. This stuff is worse than heroin and I know first-hand.

He started because his girlfriend went on probation and they could pass the drug tests…

I’ll also add I threw over $80k trying to clean him up…it did not work. All I can do now is take care of his kids…
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I'm sorry you and your family and your brother's family (and your brother) have been caught in this. You are a good person to have done so much.
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Negative karma to me just now:

"Your a know it all asshole! you dont know shit your a big dummy!"

Keep it coming cowards...

cool2
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and your a retarded brain dead idiot..
go shoot some bath salt faggot and go away, no one cares about your pathetic bath salt glorification
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Bath salts are NOT MDVP ever! You don’t even know what you are taking, very sad.

Not sure where you got you info, I got mine spending tens of thousands trying to treat the addiction and coming up with a way to test for it for court.

Mephedrone was first developed in 1929 in Germany; it was so dangerous they never tested it on people. Now remember every single “bath salt” mix is different they are never the same, when they outlaw one of the chemical makeups they change a minute amount of it to make a new makeup that is not illegal, this is how they get around the laws and kept selling it.

Mephedrone is processed by the body with the same exact receptors that cocaine is, so if you have a coke habit you’re already hooked on Mephedrone. This is what happened to my brother he kicked his coke habit almost 30 years before, but he had no clue he was rekindling it when he bought an over the counter synthetic drug. It was over before he started for him, this is why he went right to black out mode.

Want to use Wiki as a source? I used the doctors and lived this for months and months.

Wiki; As well as producing the intended stimulant effects, negative side effects occur when mephedrone is used, with teeth grinding the most common. The metabolism of mephedrone has been studied in rats and humans, and the metabolites can be detected in urine after usage. Nothing is known about its potential neurotoxicity, but scientists have suggested possible dangers associated with its use based on its similarity to other drugs.

This is why he chewed most his tongue off.

Wiki; The drugs advice charity Lifeline recommends that to reduce the potential harm caused by using mephedrone, users should only use mephedrone occasionally (less than weekly), use less than 0.5 g per session, dose orally rather than snorting the drug, and avoid mixing it with alcohol and other drugs. Users should also drink plenty of water at sensible intervals while taking the drug, as it causes dehydration.






[link to en.wikipedia.org] read it well….

Tell you how bad it was….

Two stories to sum this up, my mother died two months ago. I had put my bro in her empty house. I went to the funeral home to make the arrangements for her funeral, they said they needed two pictures one for the obituary and one so they new how to do her hair. We stopped at her house to get photo's and were surprised that he wasn’t at work but home at the house. Wife and I walked in and said we need pictures for the funeral home. First words out of his mouth were "YAY BUT LOOK THERE'S MICE RUNNING UNDER THE CARPET DID YOU SEE THAT LOOK THERE IT GOES! THERE EVERYWHERE. he had stuck wires in the carpet everywhere and was hallucinating so bad he thought the wires were moving when the mice ran by! This is not the bad part. He calls me 3 days later and ask's me when am I going to make arrangements for my moms funeral? The SOB, he didn’t even remember me being at the house 3 days before that. Didn’t remember anything about his mothers funeral that I had told him!

other story he gives my other brother 3 Waterford vases worth a few grand, even though he was not allowed to do that. I was ok with it cause he would have sold them other wise. Anyway about a week later he calls me "SOMEONE BROKE IN THE HOUSE AND STOLE ALL THE WTERFORD VASES!" I couldn’t even tell him the truth cause he wouldn’t have remembered anyway....


BTW my other brother is a chemist and a chemical patent lawyer. I know more about chemistry then most graduates.
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Anyone reading this,

Google "methylenedioxypyrovalerone", and "death toll" or "danger".

It should be revealing. Don't listen to the talking heads kids.
 Quoting: pi



Sorry but I watched my brother go form making 6 figures to homeless because of this stuff.

He was 100% blacked out for over three weeks and that was just what he admited to. He ended up with an esophageal hemorrhage. He ripped his skin off his chest in sheets to get the "bugs out". He chewed most his tongue off & his teath fell out. Destroyed his home, called the cops and handed them the drugs because he was so paranoid.

No one has seen him in a year. He looked worse than a meth addict in his mug shot. This drug took him from his kids by his own choice.

Cleveland police said he was the worst person they ever took in and that says a lot for a person who had a desk job just a few months before.

I buried a lot of people form drugs, more then I can count on all my fingers and toes together now. This stuff is worse than heroin and I know first-hand.

He started because his girlfriend went on probation and they could pass the drug tests…

I’ll also add I threw over $80k trying to clean him up…it did not work. All I can do now is take care of his kids…
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Looks like your science books don't cover these adverse effects.
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Bath salts are NOT MDVP ever! You don’t even know what you are taking, very sad.

Not sure where you got you info, I got mine spending tens of thousands trying to treat the addiction and coming up with a way to test for it for court.

Mephedrone was first developed in 1929 in Germany; it was so dangerous they never tested it on people. Now remember every single “bath salt” mix is different they are never the same, when they outlaw one of the chemical makeups they change a minute amount of it to make a new makeup that is not illegal, this is how they get around the laws and kept selling it.

Mephedrone is processed by the body with the same exact receptors that cocaine is, so if you have a coke habit you’re already hooked on Mephedrone. This is what happened to my brother he kicked his coke habit almost 30 years before, but he had no clue he was rekindling it when he bought an over the counter synthetic drug. It was over before he started for him, this is why he went right to black out mode.

Want to use Wiki as a source? I used the doctors and lived this for months and months.

Wiki; As well as producing the intended stimulant effects, negative side effects occur when mephedrone is used, with teeth grinding the most common. The metabolism of mephedrone has been studied in rats and humans, and the metabolites can be detected in urine after usage. Nothing is known about its potential neurotoxicity, but scientists have suggested possible dangers associated with its use based on its similarity to other drugs.

This is why he chewed most his tongue off.

Wiki; The drugs advice charity Lifeline recommends that to reduce the potential harm caused by using mephedrone, users should only use mephedrone occasionally (less than weekly), use less than 0.5 g per session, dose orally rather than snorting the drug, and avoid mixing it with alcohol and other drugs. Users should also drink plenty of water at sensible intervals while taking the drug, as it causes dehydration.






[link to en.wikipedia.org] read it well….

Tell you how bad it was….

Two stories to sum this up, my mother died two months ago. I had put my bro in her empty house. I went to the funeral home to make the arrangements for her funeral, they said they needed two pictures one for the obituary and one so they new how to do her hair. We stopped at her house to get photo's and were surprised that he wasn’t at work but home at the house. Wife and I walked in and said we need pictures for the funeral home. First words out of his mouth were "YAY BUT LOOK THERE'S MICE RUNNING UNDER THE CARPET DID YOU SEE THAT LOOK THERE IT GOES! THERE EVERYWHERE. he had stuck wires in the carpet everywhere and was hallucinating so bad he thought the wires were moving when the mice ran by! This is not the bad part. He calls me 3 days later and ask's me when am I going to make arrangements for my moms funeral? The SOB, he didn’t even remember me being at the house 3 days before that. Didn’t remember anything about his mothers funeral that I had told him!

other story he gives my other brother 3 Waterford vases worth a few grand, even though he was not allowed to do that. I was ok with it cause he would have sold them other wise. Anyway about a week later he calls me "SOMEONE BROKE IN THE HOUSE AND STOLE ALL THE WTERFORD VASES!" I couldn’t even tell him the truth cause he wouldn’t have remembered anyway....


BTW my other brother is a chemist and a chemical patent lawyer. I know more about chemistry then most graduates.
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In Canada, this is what bathsalts are, and MDPV was the chemical targeted for the ban.

Stimulant psychosis does not equal "poison drugs".

You can go completely insane from caffeine too.

Look man. Promote your horror stories if you want.

You are just helping to ensure the word gets out.

This angle was already EXTENSIVELY dealt with above.

Stop blaming drugs for your problems and take responsibility.
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Thank you all for the sympathy, was a real hard Christmas with grandma passing just two Christmases ago and no father for his children, doing my best to keep it a happy time.


The good news his youngest took her PSAT in 7th grade this year and scored in the top 10% of the country…not bad for a 7th grader! She is getting back to normal and she stoped blaming her self for what happened, it was a big step for a young child.
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Looks like your science books don't cover these adverse effects.
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Two words:

Caffeine psychosis.

Nuff said.
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Thank you all for the sympathy, was a real hard Christmas with grandma passing just two Christmases ago and no father for his children, doing my best to keep it a happy time.


The good news his youngest took her PSAT in 7th grade this year and scored in the top 10% of the country…not bad for a 7th grader! She is getting back to normal and she stoped blaming her self for what happened, it was a big step for a young child.
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I sympathize as well but you have to realize that hyping is never a good thing.

You are harming people with your reasoning.
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See that's just it buddy.

BS threads like these MAKE MORE HYPE.

You think a kid is gonna see a headline like "Bathsalts: The New Cocaine/Meth/Whatever" and NOT want to go out and buy them?


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Exactly. It's the forbidden fruit syndrome....it's the same reason that countries with more relaxed drug laws (Netherlands, Portugal, etc) have LOWER usage rates than countries with tougher laws. FACT.

The one guy in this thread said it himself...his brother started using because they could pass drug tests...if the popular and relatively harmless recreational drugs (weed being the most popular) were legal, people wouldn;t need to resort to cheap highs from bath salts and shit cooked up in basement labs.

And for this retard:


I agree with you! I think we need to start looking at the people spouting benefits of this poison and try to do our best to eliminate them from the earth.
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You need to learn some fucking reading comprehension...all the OP is saying is "This stuff is not good for you (from a physiological standpoint), but it's not nearly as bad as the media is making it sound (coincidentally, a popular scare tactic the media likes to use with drugs of all kinds). Last time I checked, that is a FAR cry from "spouting benefits".
 Quoting: The Myth


Quoting this guy again, looks like people forgot him.
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Bath salts are NOT MDVP ever! You don’t even know what you are taking, very sad.

Not sure where you got you info, I got mine spending tens of thousands trying to treat the addiction and coming up with a way to test for it for court.

Mephedrone was first developed in 1929 in Germany; it was so dangerous they never tested it on people. Now remember every single “bath salt” mix is different they are never the same, when they outlaw one of the chemical makeups they change a minute amount of it to make a new makeup that is not illegal, this is how they get around the laws and kept selling it.

Mephedrone is processed by the body with the same exact receptors that cocaine is, so if you have a coke habit you’re already hooked on Mephedrone. This is what happened to my brother he kicked his coke habit almost 30 years before, but he had no clue he was rekindling it when he bought an over the counter synthetic drug. It was over before he started for him, this is why he went right to black out mode.

Want to use Wiki as a source? I used the doctors and lived this for months and months.

Wiki; As well as producing the intended stimulant effects, negative side effects occur when mephedrone is used, with teeth grinding the most common. The metabolism of mephedrone has been studied in rats and humans, and the metabolites can be detected in urine after usage. Nothing is known about its potential neurotoxicity, but scientists have suggested possible dangers associated with its use based on its similarity to other drugs.

This is why he chewed most his tongue off.

Wiki; The drugs advice charity Lifeline recommends that to reduce the potential harm caused by using mephedrone, users should only use mephedrone occasionally (less than weekly), use less than 0.5 g per session, dose orally rather than snorting the drug, and avoid mixing it with alcohol and other drugs. Users should also drink plenty of water at sensible intervals while taking the drug, as it causes dehydration.






[link to en.wikipedia.org] read it well….

Tell you how bad it was….

Two stories to sum this up, my mother died two months ago. I had put my bro in her empty house. I went to the funeral home to make the arrangements for her funeral, they said they needed two pictures one for the obituary and one so they new how to do her hair. We stopped at her house to get photo's and were surprised that he wasn’t at work but home at the house. Wife and I walked in and said we need pictures for the funeral home. First words out of his mouth were "YAY BUT LOOK THERE'S MICE RUNNING UNDER THE CARPET DID YOU SEE THAT LOOK THERE IT GOES! THERE EVERYWHERE. he had stuck wires in the carpet everywhere and was hallucinating so bad he thought the wires were moving when the mice ran by! This is not the bad part. He calls me 3 days later and ask's me when am I going to make arrangements for my moms funeral? The SOB, he didn’t even remember me being at the house 3 days before that. Didn’t remember anything about his mothers funeral that I had told him!

other story he gives my other brother 3 Waterford vases worth a few grand, even though he was not allowed to do that. I was ok with it cause he would have sold them other wise. Anyway about a week later he calls me "SOMEONE BROKE IN THE HOUSE AND STOLE ALL THE WTERFORD VASES!" I couldn’t even tell him the truth cause he wouldn’t have remembered anyway....


BTW my other brother is a chemist and a chemical patent lawyer. I know more about chemistry then most graduates.
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Mephedrone is also sprayed on that fake weed they sell at smoke shops.
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Bath salts are NOT MDVP ever! You don’t even know what you are taking, very sad.

Not sure where you got you info, I got mine spending tens of thousands trying to treat the addiction and coming up with a way to test for it for court.

Mephedrone was first developed in 1929 in Germany; it was so dangerous they never tested it on people. Now remember every single “bath salt” mix is different they are never the same, when they outlaw one of the chemical makeups they change a minute amount of it to make a new makeup that is not illegal, this is how they get around the laws and kept selling it.

Mephedrone is processed by the body with the same exact receptors that cocaine is, so if you have a coke habit you’re already hooked on Mephedrone. This is what happened to my brother he kicked his coke habit almost 30 years before, but he had no clue he was rekindling it when he bought an over the counter synthetic drug. It was over before he started for him, this is why he went right to black out mode.

Want to use Wiki as a source? I used the doctors and lived this for months and months.

Wiki; As well as producing the intended stimulant effects, negative side effects occur when mephedrone is used, with teeth grinding the most common. The metabolism of mephedrone has been studied in rats and humans, and the metabolites can be detected in urine after usage. Nothing is known about its potential neurotoxicity, but scientists have suggested possible dangers associated with its use based on its similarity to other drugs.

This is why he chewed most his tongue off.

Wiki; The drugs advice charity Lifeline recommends that to reduce the potential harm caused by using mephedrone, users should only use mephedrone occasionally (less than weekly), use less than 0.5 g per session, dose orally rather than snorting the drug, and avoid mixing it with alcohol and other drugs. Users should also drink plenty of water at sensible intervals while taking the drug, as it causes dehydration.






[link to en.wikipedia.org] read it well….

Tell you how bad it was….

Two stories to sum this up, my mother died two months ago. I had put my bro in her empty house. I went to the funeral home to make the arrangements for her funeral, they said they needed two pictures one for the obituary and one so they new how to do her hair. We stopped at her house to get photo's and were surprised that he wasn’t at work but home at the house. Wife and I walked in and said we need pictures for the funeral home. First words out of his mouth were "YAY BUT LOOK THERE'S MICE RUNNING UNDER THE CARPET DID YOU SEE THAT LOOK THERE IT GOES! THERE EVERYWHERE. he had stuck wires in the carpet everywhere and was hallucinating so bad he thought the wires were moving when the mice ran by! This is not the bad part. He calls me 3 days later and ask's me when am I going to make arrangements for my moms funeral? The SOB, he didn’t even remember me being at the house 3 days before that. Didn’t remember anything about his mothers funeral that I had told him!

other story he gives my other brother 3 Waterford vases worth a few grand, even though he was not allowed to do that. I was ok with it cause he would have sold them other wise. Anyway about a week later he calls me "SOMEONE BROKE IN THE HOUSE AND STOLE ALL THE WTERFORD VASES!" I couldn’t even tell him the truth cause he wouldn’t have remembered anyway....


BTW my other brother is a chemist and a chemical patent lawyer. I know more about chemistry then most graduates.
 Quoting: Chrit


In Canada, this is what bathsalts are, and MDPV was the chemical targeted for the ban.

Stimulant psychosis does not equal "poison drugs".

You can go completely insane from caffeine too.

Look man. Promote your horror stories if you want.

You are just helping to ensure the word gets out.

This angle was already EXTENSIVELY dealt with above.

Stop blaming drugs for your problems and take responsibility.
 Quoting: pi


Really need to educate yourself and read the Canadian ban, that was a small ingredient in "bath salt" that was never really used.

and stop trying to blame me for what a 50 year old guys does…


Snip; a synthetic stimulant commonly found in "bath salts" drugs.

[link to stopthedrugwar.org]


That was a single ingredient that they could crack down on because it was a known structure. Was never used in 99% of bath salts, it was a feel good law to make the populous happy and believe they were trying to ban it.

You know who makes the stuff right?
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Bath salts are NOT MDVP ever! You don’t even know what you are taking, very sad.

Not sure where you got you info, I got mine spending tens of thousands trying to treat the addiction and coming up with a way to test for it for court.

Mephedrone was first developed in 1929 in Germany; it was so dangerous they never tested it on people. Now remember every single “bath salt” mix is different they are never the same, when they outlaw one of the chemical makeups they change a minute amount of it to make a new makeup that is not illegal, this is how they get around the laws and kept selling it.

Mephedrone is processed by the body with the same exact receptors that cocaine is, so if you have a coke habit you’re already hooked on Mephedrone. This is what happened to my brother he kicked his coke habit almost 30 years before, but he had no clue he was rekindling it when he bought an over the counter synthetic drug. It was over before he started for him, this is why he went right to black out mode.

Want to use Wiki as a source? I used the doctors and lived this for months and months.

Wiki; As well as producing the intended stimulant effects, negative side effects occur when mephedrone is used, with teeth grinding the most common. The metabolism of mephedrone has been studied in rats and humans, and the metabolites can be detected in urine after usage. Nothing is known about its potential neurotoxicity, but scientists have suggested possible dangers associated with its use based on its similarity to other drugs.

This is why he chewed most his tongue off.

Wiki; The drugs advice charity Lifeline recommends that to reduce the potential harm caused by using mephedrone, users should only use mephedrone occasionally (less than weekly), use less than 0.5 g per session, dose orally rather than snorting the drug, and avoid mixing it with alcohol and other drugs. Users should also drink plenty of water at sensible intervals while taking the drug, as it causes dehydration.






[link to en.wikipedia.org] read it well….

Tell you how bad it was….

Two stories to sum this up, my mother died two months ago. I had put my bro in her empty house. I went to the funeral home to make the arrangements for her funeral, they said they needed two pictures one for the obituary and one so they new how to do her hair. We stopped at her house to get photo's and were surprised that he wasn’t at work but home at the house. Wife and I walked in and said we need pictures for the funeral home. First words out of his mouth were "YAY BUT LOOK THERE'S MICE RUNNING UNDER THE CARPET DID YOU SEE THAT LOOK THERE IT GOES! THERE EVERYWHERE. he had stuck wires in the carpet everywhere and was hallucinating so bad he thought the wires were moving when the mice ran by! This is not the bad part. He calls me 3 days later and ask's me when am I going to make arrangements for my moms funeral? The SOB, he didn’t even remember me being at the house 3 days before that. Didn’t remember anything about his mothers funeral that I had told him!

other story he gives my other brother 3 Waterford vases worth a few grand, even though he was not allowed to do that. I was ok with it cause he would have sold them other wise. Anyway about a week later he calls me "SOMEONE BROKE IN THE HOUSE AND STOLE ALL THE WTERFORD VASES!" I couldn’t even tell him the truth cause he wouldn’t have remembered anyway....


BTW my other brother is a chemist and a chemical patent lawyer. I know more about chemistry then most graduates.
 Quoting: Chrit


In Canada, this is what bathsalts are, and MDPV was the chemical targeted for the ban.

Stimulant psychosis does not equal "poison drugs".

You can go completely insane from caffeine too.

Look man. Promote your horror stories if you want.

You are just helping to ensure the word gets out.

This angle was already EXTENSIVELY dealt with above.

Stop blaming drugs for your problems and take responsibility.
 Quoting: pi


Really need to educate yourself and read the Canadian ban, that was a small ingredient in "bath salt" that was never really used.

and stop trying to blame me for what a 50 year old guys does…


Snip; a synthetic stimulant commonly found in "bath salts" drugs.

[link to stopthedrugwar.org]


That was a single ingredient that they could crack down on because it was a known structure. Was never used in 99% of bath salts, it was a feel good law to make the populous happy and believe they were trying to ban it.

You know who makes the stuff right?
 Quoting: Chrit


Alright mate, respect that point of view. Thanks for explaining, I appreciate it. I'm just trying to learn, too.
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Bath salts are NOT MDVP ever! You don’t even know what you are taking, very sad.

Not sure where you got you info, I got mine spending tens of thousands trying to treat the addiction and coming up with a way to test for it for court.

Mephedrone was first developed in 1929 in Germany; it was so dangerous they never tested it on people. Now remember every single “bath salt” mix is different they are never the same, when they outlaw one of the chemical makeups they change a minute amount of it to make a new makeup that is not illegal, this is how they get around the laws and kept selling it.

Mephedrone is processed by the body with the same exact receptors that cocaine is, so if you have a coke habit you’re already hooked on Mephedrone. This is what happened to my brother he kicked his coke habit almost 30 years before, but he had no clue he was rekindling it when he bought an over the counter synthetic drug. It was over before he started for him, this is why he went right to black out mode.

Want to use Wiki as a source? I used the doctors and lived this for months and months.

Wiki; As well as producing the intended stimulant effects, negative side effects occur when mephedrone is used, with teeth grinding the most common. The metabolism of mephedrone has been studied in rats and humans, and the metabolites can be detected in urine after usage. Nothing is known about its potential neurotoxicity, but scientists have suggested possible dangers associated with its use based on its similarity to other drugs.

This is why he chewed most his tongue off.

Wiki; The drugs advice charity Lifeline recommends that to reduce the potential harm caused by using mephedrone, users should only use mephedrone occasionally (less than weekly), use less than 0.5 g per session, dose orally rather than snorting the drug, and avoid mixing it with alcohol and other drugs. Users should also drink plenty of water at sensible intervals while taking the drug, as it causes dehydration.






[link to en.wikipedia.org] read it well….

Tell you how bad it was….

Two stories to sum this up, my mother died two months ago. I had put my bro in her empty house. I went to the funeral home to make the arrangements for her funeral, they said they needed two pictures one for the obituary and one so they new how to do her hair. We stopped at her house to get photo's and were surprised that he wasn’t at work but home at the house. Wife and I walked in and said we need pictures for the funeral home. First words out of his mouth were "YAY BUT LOOK THERE'S MICE RUNNING UNDER THE CARPET DID YOU SEE THAT LOOK THERE IT GOES! THERE EVERYWHERE. he had stuck wires in the carpet everywhere and was hallucinating so bad he thought the wires were moving when the mice ran by! This is not the bad part. He calls me 3 days later and ask's me when am I going to make arrangements for my moms funeral? The SOB, he didn’t even remember me being at the house 3 days before that. Didn’t remember anything about his mothers funeral that I had told him!

other story he gives my other brother 3 Waterford vases worth a few grand, even though he was not allowed to do that. I was ok with it cause he would have sold them other wise. Anyway about a week later he calls me "SOMEONE BROKE IN THE HOUSE AND STOLE ALL THE WTERFORD VASES!" I couldn’t even tell him the truth cause he wouldn’t have remembered anyway....


BTW my other brother is a chemist and a chemical patent lawyer. I know more about chemistry then most graduates.
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Sorry. Mephedrone is not THAT dangerous, more 'reefer madness' type propaganda. Besides... I believe it is already banned in most states.

You people are the same ones giving your rights and liberty away for a false sense of security. Or, worse yet a few $$$. You make me ill.
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I live in a city full of every drug imaginable and every one I know laughs at people that do bath salts, idiots also try and sell it MDMA or some other drug.

plus the buzz lasts like 5 minuets and it sucks
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Bath salts are NOT MDVP ever! You don’t even know what you are taking, very sad.

Not sure where you got you info, I got mine spending tens of thousands trying to treat the addiction and coming up with a way to test for it for court.

Mephedrone was first developed in 1929 in Germany; it was so dangerous they never tested it on people. Now remember every single “bath salt” mix is different they are never the same, when they outlaw one of the chemical makeups they change a minute amount of it to make a new makeup that is not illegal, this is how they get around the laws and kept selling it.

Mephedrone is processed by the body with the same exact receptors that cocaine is, so if you have a coke habit you’re already hooked on Mephedrone. This is what happened to my brother he kicked his coke habit almost 30 years before, but he had no clue he was rekindling it when he bought an over the counter synthetic drug. It was over before he started for him, this is why he went right to black out mode.

Want to use Wiki as a source? I used the doctors and lived this for months and months.

Wiki; As well as producing the intended stimulant effects, negative side effects occur when mephedrone is used, with teeth grinding the most common. The metabolism of mephedrone has been studied in rats and humans, and the metabolites can be detected in urine after usage. Nothing is known about its potential neurotoxicity, but scientists have suggested possible dangers associated with its use based on its similarity to other drugs.

This is why he chewed most his tongue off.

Wiki; The drugs advice charity Lifeline recommends that to reduce the potential harm caused by using mephedrone, users should only use mephedrone occasionally (less than weekly), use less than 0.5 g per session, dose orally rather than snorting the drug, and avoid mixing it with alcohol and other drugs. Users should also drink plenty of water at sensible intervals while taking the drug, as it causes dehydration.






[link to en.wikipedia.org] read it well….

Tell you how bad it was….

Two stories to sum this up, my mother died two months ago. I had put my bro in her empty house. I went to the funeral home to make the arrangements for her funeral, they said they needed two pictures one for the obituary and one so they new how to do her hair. We stopped at her house to get photo's and were surprised that he wasn’t at work but home at the house. Wife and I walked in and said we need pictures for the funeral home. First words out of his mouth were "YAY BUT LOOK THERE'S MICE RUNNING UNDER THE CARPET DID YOU SEE THAT LOOK THERE IT GOES! THERE EVERYWHERE. he had stuck wires in the carpet everywhere and was hallucinating so bad he thought the wires were moving when the mice ran by! This is not the bad part. He calls me 3 days later and ask's me when am I going to make arrangements for my moms funeral? The SOB, he didn’t even remember me being at the house 3 days before that. Didn’t remember anything about his mothers funeral that I had told him!

other story he gives my other brother 3 Waterford vases worth a few grand, even though he was not allowed to do that. I was ok with it cause he would have sold them other wise. Anyway about a week later he calls me "SOMEONE BROKE IN THE HOUSE AND STOLE ALL THE WTERFORD VASES!" I couldn’t even tell him the truth cause he wouldn’t have remembered anyway....


BTW my other brother is a chemist and a chemical patent lawyer. I know more about chemistry then most graduates.
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Mephedrone is also sprayed on that fake weed they sell at smoke shops.
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No it is'nt. It is other research chems such as the JWH series or Am -2201 etc. Dumbasses.
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I live in a city full of every drug imaginable and every one I know laughs at people that do bath salts, idiots also try and sell it MDMA or some other drug.

plus the buzz lasts like 5 minuets and it sucks
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...

Definitely a point worth consideration...

hmm
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This is the dumbest thread I've seen. I used to do bath salts everyday before I saw the news about the zombie shit that happened but nothing happened to me. I didn't change or anything the navy psychiatrist is freakin stupid.
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This IS worse than reefer madness. The kind of bad trip shit they're showing in this video would much more likely be the result of a a hullucinogenic/deliriant overdose like PCP or even too much cough plain ol' cough medicine (DXM). Most of the "bath salts" on the market today are intended to be amphetamine/Adderal analogues, and for the majority of them, that's pretty much what they are with varying potencies. This shit in the video likely won't happen to any user who doesn't intentionally go overboard and stay gacked-out for days and weeks on end...blahblah
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how is this guy's brother being an unreformed drug addict any different than that of a toothless gold paint huffing addict should we ban socks and spray paint?
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Bath salts are NOT MDVP ever! You don’t even know what you are taking, very sad.

Not sure where you got you info, I got mine spending tens of thousands trying to treat the addiction and coming up with a way to test for it for court.

Mephedrone was first developed in 1929 in Germany; it was so dangerous they never tested it on people. Now remember every single “bath salt” mix is different they are never the same, when they outlaw one of the chemical makeups they change a minute amount of it to make a new makeup that is not illegal, this is how they get around the laws and kept selling it.

Mephedrone is processed by the body with the same exact receptors that cocaine is, so if you have a coke habit you’re already hooked on Mephedrone. This is what happened to my brother he kicked his coke habit almost 30 years before, but he had no clue he was rekindling it when he bought an over the counter synthetic drug. It was over before he started for him, this is why he went right to black out mode.

Want to use Wiki as a source? I used the doctors and lived this for months and months.

Wiki; As well as producing the intended stimulant effects, negative side effects occur when mephedrone is used, with teeth grinding the most common. The metabolism of mephedrone has been studied in rats and humans, and the metabolites can be detected in urine after usage. Nothing is known about its potential neurotoxicity, but scientists have suggested possible dangers associated with its use based on its similarity to other drugs.

This is why he chewed most his tongue off.

Wiki; The drugs advice charity Lifeline recommends that to reduce the potential harm caused by using mephedrone, users should only use mephedrone occasionally (less than weekly), use less than 0.5 g per session, dose orally rather than snorting the drug, and avoid mixing it with alcohol and other drugs. Users should also drink plenty of water at sensible intervals while taking the drug, as it causes dehydration.






[link to en.wikipedia.org] read it well….

Tell you how bad it was….

Two stories to sum this up, my mother died two months ago. I had put my bro in her empty house. I went to the funeral home to make the arrangements for her funeral, they said they needed two pictures one for the obituary and one so they new how to do her hair. We stopped at her house to get photo's and were surprised that he wasn’t at work but home at the house. Wife and I walked in and said we need pictures for the funeral home. First words out of his mouth were "YAY BUT LOOK THERE'S MICE RUNNING UNDER THE CARPET DID YOU SEE THAT LOOK THERE IT GOES! THERE EVERYWHERE. he had stuck wires in the carpet everywhere and was hallucinating so bad he thought the wires were moving when the mice ran by! This is not the bad part. He calls me 3 days later and ask's me when am I going to make arrangements for my moms funeral? The SOB, he didn’t even remember me being at the house 3 days before that. Didn’t remember anything about his mothers funeral that I had told him!

other story he gives my other brother 3 Waterford vases worth a few grand, even though he was not allowed to do that. I was ok with it cause he would have sold them other wise. Anyway about a week later he calls me "SOMEONE BROKE IN THE HOUSE AND STOLE ALL THE WTERFORD VASES!" I couldn’t even tell him the truth cause he wouldn’t have remembered anyway....


BTW my other brother is a chemist and a chemical patent lawyer. I know more about chemistry then most graduates.
 Quoting: Chrit


Mephedrone is also sprayed on that fake weed they sell at smoke shops.
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No it is'nt. It is other research chems such as the JWH series or Am -2201 etc. Dumbasses.
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you're fucking stupid, but whatever, I don't really care bro, I'm puffing on the dank right now, white widow..

those other research chems you smoking on have a shity buzz and taste absolutely like shit.. lol
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And, seriously, most "bath salts" are weaker than street speed/amphetamine, which is usually dirt cheap and its effecr have been well documented over the CENTURIES, already. Bath salts are for dweebs and shut-ins too afraid to go out and find the real shit.
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Government crapagandists never learn.

People just laugh at heavy handed bullshit.
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darwin salts
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And, seriously, most "bath salts" are weaker than street speed/amphetamine, which is usually dirt cheap and its effecr have been well documented over the CENTURIES, already. Bath salts are for dweebs and shut-ins too afraid to go out and find the real shit.
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There ya have it...

I continue to receive negative karma for this.

Such is the price of truth I suppose.

Shame that.
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This IS worse than reefer madness. The kind of bad trip shit they're showing in this video would much more likely be the result of a a hullucinogenic/deliriant overdose like PCP or even too much cough plain ol' cough medicine (DXM). Most of the "bath salts" on the market today are intended to be amphetamine/Adderal analogues, and for the majority of them, that's pretty much what they are with varying potencies. This shit in the video likely won't happen to any user who doesn't intentionally go overboard and stay gacked-out for days and weeks on end...blahblah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25663058


With no regulation it begs the age old phrase, from chaos comes order. We have here a propaganda video that is pushing the dangers of "bath salts" which back in my day were known as "designer drugs".

Are their actual dangers? Of course their are.

Does the Military have an interest in stopping dangers like this from the enlisted? Of course they do.

YET

It also further detaches self-responsibility from someone that should know better.

@Chrit my apologies for what you had to go through with your family, I've been in similar scenarios.
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You brain dead, worthless, poison sniffing scum are what needs to be eliminated from western society. I really don't give a fuck other than what happens on US soil so fuck western civilization. Round these brain dead poison powder snorting lowlifes promoting any form of Law dodging chinese powder up and EXECUTE THEM!
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^^The U.S. army used up more amphetamine during the Vietnam war than the rest of the world combined had used during WWII. Look it up, dude...those were the halcyon days.

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