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If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness

 
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If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
What then?
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Well shit good question.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
...?

Gee?

That's the question ain't it?
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
What then?
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I'm gonna go with God saying fuck you G Biscuit. Seriously he tricked God into torturing Job. He lead a rebellion against God. He tries to get man to say fuck God. And he has been planning a war in heaven for the last two and a half thousand years. Also he gave Marilyn Manson a career that shit is unforgivable.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
.....it can't happen.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
What then?
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But he won't..his arrogance won't let him
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
Maybe you'll ALL find out :)
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I sure as hell hope so.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
This is a question for DGN to answer
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Like children, mankind has to have consequences for their behavior. Lucifer, once the most loyal angel in heaven, now proves his loyalty by remaining in exile to punish those who rape, kill, torture, abuse children and animals. devil6
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
that really is the question isnt it
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
Maybe the question is if YHVH ask the infinite one for forgiveness.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
Well, Lucifer isn't Satan. Lucifer isn't even a name or an entity.

And Satan doesn't need to ask God for forgiveness since, well, he works for God as the Accuser and all. It's a dirty job but somebody has to do it. Pity all the humans hate him and have demonized him for exposing their sins and corruption.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
God will forgive him like everyone else.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
Maybe the question is if YHVH ask the infinite one for forgiveness.
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thats more like it or maybe no one has to ask anyone for forgivness just a thought
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
God will forgive him like everyone else.
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... I think.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
If God forgives him then he would definitely forgive Hitler. Fuck that shit I would sell my soul to Lilith just on principal.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
God will forgive him like everyone else.
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... I think.
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But thats like matter and anti - matter colliding
Dont think that can happen
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
God will forgive him like everyone else.
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... I think.
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But thats like matter and anti - matter colliding
Dont think that can happen
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Damn good question
but too far fetched
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
I'm gonna go with God saying fuck you G Biscuit. Seriously he tricked God into torturing Job. He lead a rebellion against God. He tries to get man to say fuck God. And he has been planning a war in heaven for the last two and a half thousand years. Also he gave Marilyn Manson a career that shit is unforgivable.
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rofl
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
Lucifer wanted to be a God like God. Lucifer then fell from heaven taking a 3rd of the Angels with him, God put him in charge of evil, Hell.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
Maybe you'll ALL find out :)
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I sure as hell hope so.
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I c what u did thur.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
god does not forgive lesser beings like angels
only humans
this is why a war rages in heaven over jealousy

jesus would need to forgive him
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
Lucifer wanted to be a God like God. Lucifer then fell from heaven taking a 3rd of the Angels with him, God put him in charge of evil, Hell.
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No he just wanted God's respect. He was pissed because Angels were created first yet they had to serve to Humans who were so wicked and vile. God also was a dick to everybody in the old testament. What really pissed him off is that God gave man the ability to become Gods by either speaking his true name which is what Lilith did or eat from the tree of life, drink the waters of life, and eat from the tree of knowledge. When Eve stole the apple God tripped and cast them out because he was afraid of what happened he then told Lucifer about how they can become Gods and he flipped shit. Lucifer was Gods first creation and his best friend yet God would fucked over him and everyone else just out of boredom. Look at Job for instance god destroyed his life to win a bet with Lucifer. All Lucifer ever wanted was equality to man but God cast him out of heaven when he asked for it and any that disagreed with what happened was thrown out too. Moral of the story Torah God was a dick.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
Matthew 7:22-23 (KJV)
22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Does it sound like Jesus forgave them who didn't accept the precious blood of Jesus for remission of sins when they had the chance? Satan already had his chance. There is no second chance for devils or demons, or anyone for that matter after they die. Here's a scripture which proves this.

James 2:19-20 (KJV)
19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

They tremble because their fate in eternal hell fire is sealed in the day of judgment.

Jesus took the whole worlds sins upon himself, not the devil or demons. And besides in the bible it says satan and fallen angels will be thrown in hell.

Revelation 20:10 (KJV)
10[And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet ] are[, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.]
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^^** post above me is speaking straight out of ignorance, No respect? what bible are you reading? God created the angels out of love to serve him. God loved angels just as much as humans. God created the angels first, millions of years before he even created humans. If you'll notice the gap principle between verse 1 and 2 in genesis and know the difference between "created and made". Also when earth was originally created, it was for the angels to dwell on and lucifer was made in charge over angels. You're saying God didn't respect him? More like lucifer didn't respect God. God created him to be beautiful and powerful! Yet that wasn't enough, he wanted to be worshipped as God. Which is why he rebelled with 1/3 of angels, and God executed judgment over the world which caused dinosaurs to be extinct and fallen angels to become disembodied spirits. Which just roam the world as demons.
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^^** post above me is speaking straight out of ignorance, No respect? what bible are you reading? God created the angels out of love to serve him. God loved angels just as much as humans. God created the angels first, millions of years before he even created humans. If you'll notice the gap principle between verse 1 and 2 in genesis and know the difference between "created and made". Also when earth was originally created, it was for the angels to dwell on and lucifer was made in charge over angels. You're saying God didn't respect him? More like lucifer didn't respect God. God created him to be beautiful and powerful! Yet that wasn't enough, he wanted to be worshipped as God. Which is why he rebelled with 1/3 of angels, and God executed judgment over the world which caused dinosaurs to be extinct and fallen angels to become disembodied spirits. Which just roam the world as demons.
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norespect
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Yeah nice argument there. Speak out of ignorance but no scriptural evidence, only speculation deceived by your hardened, sinful heart.
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#1.
Hell:Hell is a place of eternal torment, a realm of unrelenting suffering for all sinners, heretics and unbelievers. It is a land of fire and brimstone arranged into nine circles and filled with imps and demons who deal out cruelly ironic punishments for all of eternity. Ruling over all of it is Satan, who probably sits on a throne made of skulls or something.

The Only Problem Is ...

Of all that, the only part you'll find in the Bible is the fact that Hell sucks and that there is fire (from passages like Matthew 13:42: "And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.")

And ... that's as specific as it gets.

As for Satan being the ruler of hell, that's a misconception we can probably blame on John Milton. In Paradise Lost, Satan famously bitched: "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven." But there's a reason why God cast Satan and his minions into hell instead of Wisconsin: Hell sucks for everyone including imps and demons. According to 2 Peter 2:4: "God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into chains of darkness to be held for judgment."

That's right, chains and prisons ... for them. No iron fortresses, no fiery thrones, no mention of Satan ruling the cell block ... all of that is from the Bible's extended universe and fan fiction.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
"It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels bow down to Adam and they bowed down; not so Iblis (Satan); he refused to be of those who bow down.

What prevented thee from bowing down when I commanded thee? He said: I am better than he: thou didst create me from fire and him from clay.

Get thee down from this: it is not for thee to be arrogant here: get out for thou art of the meanest (of creatures).

That's how it happens where did any of that mention Lucifer wanting to be a God.

Let me guess NKJ?
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"It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels bow down to Adam and they bowed down; not so Iblis (Satan); he refused to be of those who bow down.

What prevented thee from bowing down when I commanded thee? He said: I am better than he: thou didst create me from fire and him from clay.

Get thee down from this: it is not for thee to be arrogant here: get out for thou art of the meanest (of creatures).

That's how it happens where did any of that mention Lucifer wanting to be a God.

Let me guess NKJ?
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The reason he turned evil and wanted to make man turn on God is because of this part of the story

Give me respite till the day they are raised up.

Be thou among those who have respite.

Because Thou hast thrown me out of the way lo! I will lie in wait for them on Thy straight way.

Then will I assault them from before them and behind them from their right and their left: nor wilt Thou find in most of them gratitude (for Thy mercies).

Get out from this disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee, Hell will I fill with you all.

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