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If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness

 
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What then?
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But he won't..his arrogance won't let him
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This is exactly what happened a few years ago.
Lucifer got the offer, but refused.
As a consequence he was erased.
The rest of the fallen angels have been reinstated in their old functions, without punishment.

So, now you know.

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Haven't read the thread, but here is the answer.

Satan would have to admit he had messed up, was wrong, that God was, is, and will be always right. And bow his knee before God and ask forgiveness, with sincerity of heart (and God knows all the thoughts of every heart).

Then, we would see..........
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
Ok....here ya go....

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.



The Creator....is both.

You are told here....directly....now....watch the feeble minds explain it away....
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AMEN
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
Heard lucifer was offered forgiveness many times, but what lucifer wants isn't forgiveness he wants to be God

He is the father of lies anyway if he asked it would be an obvious lie
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Wifey says it wont happen. because he was once perfect. SHE is a JW. i am not.bump
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What then?
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Easy answer. Lucifer sin like that of his followers was preformed with complete knowledge, perfect freedom, and full responsibility. It is interpreted as a sin of pride. Lucifer saw the splendor of his own angelic nature, together with it's supernatural gifts, and rightly prized it. However, he wished to be sufficient unto himself and refused to admit that he depended on God and could find happiness only in God. His sin of rebellious pride was an act of complete egoism and pure malice, he loved himself to the exclusion of all else and without the excuse of ignorance, error, passion, or weakness of will.
Because of the perfection of the angelic will, Lucifer choice, once made, was irrevocable. His rejection of God is eternal, as is his subsequent punishment.
His essential and greatest torment is the pain of loss, namely the loss of God by whom and for whom he was created. He is in utter despair and filled with hatred for God, the good angels, mankind, and his fellow demons.
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The answer is NO. God knows human limitation ...that all his understand of God is based on faith. Where the devil had full knowledge and access to God and still tried to war against him.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
Thats crazy people get pissed when i say that
God says to love our enemy and forgive those who do wrong to us satan was Gods favorite and God would forgive him but satan is full of pride and would never bow down i forgive satan and love the creation he was before he changed
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What then?
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I tried that. It was no good.
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
Lucifer of the Bible or of a half Bible (which was compiled and written) and half story? Or of a more reasonable idea that is still questionable (Questionable in regards to Lucifer's integrity and whether he is correct)?
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Haven't read the thread, but here is the answer.

Satan would have to admit he had messed up, was wrong, that God was, is, and will be always right. And bow his knee before God and ask forgiveness, with sincerity of heart (and God knows all the thoughts of every heart).

Then, we would see..........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30264892

Actually the book of Enoch covers this issue (for the fallen angels) in fairly decent detail and it is right at the start so finding the relevant part is as easy as finding the book on-line.
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What then?
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What name does lucifer give to God?
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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
they don't exist

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God would say this

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Re: If Lucifer asked God for forgiveness
The Pearl

5/6/05 From Our Lord and Savior, Jesus The Christ -
A Letter Given to Timothy, For His Wife, and For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear


Question asked by Timothy, for his wife: Lord, why does she feel so unsettled after her visit with Rose, a homeless person?


[Answer from Jesus The Christ]
Beloved, to the poor are we indebted, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. You have felt the Spirit upon you. You know now what your husband knows, for the Spirit is upon you, and it is called Truth. Beloved, compassion have you shown. This is the way of The Lord and your Christ’s... My way.
Feel not remorse, for theirs is the path they have chosen, which led to Me... No one is given to Me, unless The Father first calls them... Theirs is the path of salvation. Do not grieve for them, for what about them saddens you?... Rejoice, My child, for they have a home and a garden. I have prepared it for them, and soon will gather them up to Myself, so they may be where I am and dwell in the place I’ve prepared from the beginning. Indeed they are poor... In this world, very poor...



Look, and give thanks and praise,
For The Lamb of God has placed the pearl in their hand...

It is freely given to those who ask.



Beloved, you have much and are grateful. You have nothing and everything. You and she, whom you befriended, are both wealthy beyond words. The wealth you both have is equal, for to both have I given of Myself. See with the eyes of Christ... You have, but only as a woman... See with eyes wide. All you have is but a glimmer, a twinkle, here now and gone tomorrow. I see you only as you are, and will be, as all were meant to be purposed by The Father.



To one must all be lost to be found...

To the next, nothing is lost and everything gained...


And yet the truly blessed are those,
Who never lost or went looking for the pearl...

They had held it close their whole life.



All are born from and have the pearl with them. It is the world and the evil one, who deceives you into thinking you lost it, and that it never existed. Even he who lies and thieves, and is the father of them, may have the pearl, if he turns and accepts Him who holds the pearl in His right hand... It is lost to him, and even his part in life shall be removed from him in the Last Day... Forever separated from God, the second death.



Rejoice and give thanks for what you have, Beloved...

And leap for joy for what you have received.



Do what you can for the poor and hungry and widows and orphans, for in your compassion, and helping hands of love, have you touched The Lord and the love of your Father who is in Heaven. Feel not guilt, over what you have and another does not. All is The Father’s and given to those whom He chooses, and taken from those whom He chooses... Both will call to Him... For it is The Father’s will that all come to repentance and salvation in His Christ.



Sing amen, I say, sing amen...


My work is nearly finished in all the earth.



All those whom ask of The Father, in His Begotten’s name, have the reward...


Where two or three gather, in My name, assuredly I say to you, I am there.



Amen, I say to you...

My peace I give to you, but not as the world gives.


Source:
Letters from God and His Christ


Letter videos:
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UU9ShQn-PqgyEOAWr4AQeBow
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Not possible.
Sometimes you can only make one mistake, especially if you were created like an angel.

Also, one have to proof that one is serious, doing extremely long service time in humiliation, it would be too easy to say "Ok then, you're forgiven", one has to PROVE his worthiness for forgiving, imho.
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It's already been written. What God has spoken, has been done. The only thing we can do, is watch it play out. Besides, Satan is a spirit. He had no excuse.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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Most of the fallen angels already have asked for forgiveness. It was refused.
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