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State trying to make sperm donor pay child support

 
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State trying to make sperm donor pay child support
OPEKA, Kan. (AP) — A Kansas man who donated sperm to a lesbian couple after answering an online ad is fighting the state's efforts to suddenly force him to pay child support for the now 3-year-old girl, arguing that he and the women signed an agreement waiving all of his parental rights.

The case hinges on the fact that no doctors were used for the artificial insemination. The state argues that because William Marotta didn't work through a clinic or doctor, as required by state law, he can be held responsible for about $6,000 that the child's biological mother received through public assistance — as well as future child support.

Angela de Rocha, spokeswoman for the Kansas Department for Children and Families, said that when a single mother seeks benefits for a child, it's routine for the department to try to determine the child's paternity and require the father to make support payments to lessen the potential cost to taxpayers.

Marotta, a 46-year-old Topeka resident, answered an online ad in 2009 from a local couple, Angela Bauer and Jennifer Schreiner, who said they were seeking a sperm donor. After exchanging emails and meeting, the three signed an agreement relieving Marotta of any financial or paternal responsibility.

But instead of working with a doctor, Marotta agreed to drop off a container with his sperm at the couple's home and the women successfully handled the artificial insemination themselves. Schreiner become pregnant with a girl.

Late last year, after she and Bauer broke up, Schreiner received public assistance from the state to help care for the girl.

The Kansas Department for Children and Families filed a court petition against Marotta in October, asking that he be required to reimburse the state for the benefits and make future child support payments. Marotta is asking that the case be dismissed, arguing that he's not legally the child's father, only a sperm donor.

A hearing is set for Tuesday.

Marotta told The Topeka-Capital Journal that he is "a little scared about where this is going to go, primarily for financial reasons."

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Bain sperm!
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If the state decides to make a sperm donor pay child support the donor should just adopt the child.

I would love a mini me, I would raise him to kick ass and break hearts for breakfast.
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Re: State trying to make sperm donor pay child support
If the state decides to make a sperm donor pay child support the donor should just adopt the child.

I would love a mini me, I would raise him to kick ass and break hearts for breakfast.
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I think he just did it to be nice . and now it might cost him . guess some donors do not think of all the ramifications that go with "the gift" such as this kind of thing or when the child gets older and wants to look Daddy up .
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01/03/2013 04:15 AM
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Ah the fucking State, has their hand in your pocket whenever they need it (which is always). Yet libtards keep voting them more and more power. Sad really.
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Yeah its a crying shame. But he should have read the fine print.

Like I said, adopt the kid its a better alternative then paying child support and having no say in how your seed grows up.
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Yeah its a crying shame. But he should have read the fine print.

Like I said, adopt the kid its a better alternative then paying child support and having no say in how your seed grows up.
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just thinking if he wanted to adopt maybe it is even possible in this situation ? ... I mean what If the lesbian parent does not want him in the child's life?
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Yeah its a crying shame. But he should have read the fine print.

Like I said, adopt the kid its a better alternative then paying child support and having no say in how your seed grows up.
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just thinking if he wanted to adopt maybe it is even possible in this situation ? ... I mean what If the lesbian parent does not want him in the child's life?
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Maybe.

Never trust a lesbian though. Let this be as a lesson warned.
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That kid is going to grow up majorly fucked up.
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oh mann... do hope the kid will be ok . sigh they should not be the ones to suffer .
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oh mann... do hope the kid will be ok . sigh they should not be the ones to suffer .
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* they as in the child of the messed up situation .
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That kid is going to grow up majorly fucked up.
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yeah can you imagine growing up and reading about this online in highschool when you google your name?
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You guys are not getting the true point here: homossexuals are the cause of a great part of the problems of the actual society. This twisted behavior is being imposed onto people as natural, biological and beautyfull. People are being mislead to believe that homossexuals are more intelligent, more evolved than straights. Straights are being shown as retrograde or "out of the new scope". This particular case, could be the first of many others. Sperm donors, pro-homossexuality, will now think twice before helping these homossexual "couples". They should never have done it in the first place.
I know many will disagree, but homossexuality is wrong in all points of views: moral, religious, social and even scientific. Yes, even scientifically, homossexuality is wrong. If you look through this prism, scientifically we are an evolution, a species that evolved from something else. Evolution is based on mutation of the offspring. Homossexuals cannot generate offspring(thus the need of a sperm donor), so, they will not make "the next step" of the evolutionary chain.
Now, some may arguee: I know someone that since childhood, know him/herself to be "different", and with this misinformed conclusion, will try to say that homossexuality is biological. Well, it is NOT. Homossexuality is only behavioral, children look to examples, if a child have the homossexual tendency, its not because of their "biological tendency", its because something or someone they heard or saw.
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once that fuck sauce shell leaves the cannon , you better know where it is going.
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Bain sperm!
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Lends a whole new meaning to "keep it in your pants!"
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once that fuck sauce shell leaves the cannon , you better know where it is going.
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Something to think about that's for sure . If you help create a life there is more to it then just handing over a cup .
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01/03/2013 05:41 PM
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Ah the fucking State, has their hand in your pocket whenever they need it (which is always). Yet libtards keep voting them more and more power. Sad really.
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Libtards?

Conservatards and LIbtards are the SAME to me. You all keep voting in POLITICIANS to office who do nothing but screw things up. You're all EQUALLY responsible for screwing up this world.

Collectively you're all called political-tards, because none of you can see any solution other than lining up with the rest of the sheep to cast your vote into THE SYSTEM.

You're ALL collectively PATHETIC, and you're all responsible for the ruin of this country. wink

How does that feel conservaFOOL?
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01/03/2013 05:44 PM
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total irresponsible fools

on all parts
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Pics of the lovely ladies
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Pics of the lovely ladies
[link to www.google.com.au]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31369771


Anyone who helped those beasts breed deserves to pay BIG MONEY.
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what the fuck is wrong with the world? lately this type of shit is the norm now ...a lot of us are gonna pay for allowing this type of shit to go on
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Re: State trying to make sperm donor pay child support
Yeah its a crying shame. But he should have read the fine print.

Like I said, adopt the kid its a better alternative then paying child support and having no say in how your seed grows up.
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just thinking if he wanted to adopt maybe it is even possible in this situation ? ... I mean what If the lesbian parent does not want him in the child's life?
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The child has a GOD given right to know who is Father is, his family and genes on his Dad's side..No one has the right to take that away from another human being...
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Re: State trying to make sperm donor pay child support
You guys are not getting the true point here: homossexuals are the cause of a great part of the problems of the actual society. This twisted behavior is being imposed onto people as natural, biological and beautyfull. People are being mislead to believe that homossexuals are more intelligent, more evolved than straights. Straights are being shown as retrograde or "out of the new scope". This particular case, could be the first of many others. Sperm donors, pro-homossexuality, will now think twice before helping these homossexual "couples". They should never have done it in the first place.
I know many will disagree, but homossexuality is wrong in all points of views: moral, religious, social and even scientific. Yes, even scientifically, homossexuality is wrong. If you look through this prism, scientifically we are an evolution, a species that evolved from something else. Evolution is based on mutation of the offspring. Homossexuals cannot generate offspring(thus the need of a sperm donor), so, they will not make "the next step" of the evolutionary chain.
Now, some may arguee: I know someone that since childhood, know him/herself to be "different", and with this misinformed conclusion, will try to say that homossexuality is biological. Well, it is NOT. Homossexuality is only behavioral, children look to examples, if a child have the homossexual tendency, its not because of their "biological tendency", its because something or someone they heard or saw.
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+100

clappa
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Bain sperm!
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It's always best to do a facial.

Never donate to a sperm bank.
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Just wait until the state goes after a surrogate "mother" for child support!

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Re: State trying to make sperm donor pay child support
Yeah its a crying shame. But he should have read the fine print.

Like I said, adopt the kid its a better alternative then paying child support and having no say in how your seed grows up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31384933


just thinking if he wanted to adopt maybe it is even possible in this situation ? ... I mean what If the lesbian parent does not want him in the child's life?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27951003


The child has a GOD given right to know who is Father is, his family and genes on his Dad's side..No one has the right to take that away from another human being...
 Quoting: christian


I find it funny when you religtards go about "god given rights". If some psycho points a weapon on your head and decides to shoot and you have no way to stop him/her, where is your "god given right to life" then?

There are no god given rights, might makes right.
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It's a wonder the sperm didn't turn back at the test tube.
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It's a wonder the sperm didn't turn back at the test tube.
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It must have been artificial insemanation, nobody could look at either one of them and get it up!
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These two (*clears throat*) women could have gone to a fertility clinic, and through the proper procedures. This (I am assuming) would have cost money, money they apparently do not have. So they circumvented the system and took matters into their own hands.

I would guess if they'd 'followed the rules' that:
#1) There would be no child.
#2) There would be a child, but in the event of a split between the two .. uh .. people; the child's support would have been paid by the ... uh ... 'husband' type person (jesus this is hard to write).

Since they circumvented the 'system', they haven't 'paid' into it and are not entitled to gov't assistance.

Should be interesting how this turns out.

If the Donor accepted payment and can prove it; I would think that would pretty much absolve him.

That poor frickin child. Wow.
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If the state decides to make a sperm donor pay child support the donor should just adopt the child.

I would love a mini me, I would raise him to kick ass and break hearts for breakfast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31384933


I think he just did it to be nice . and now it might cost him . guess some donors do not think of all the ramifications that go with "the gift" such as this kind of thing or when the child gets older and wants to look Daddy up .
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the gov't should not be able to undo an agreement between people. helloooo. this is just wrong on allll counts. what would the govt do if she got knocked up by sojmeone she met at a club? hunt down the guys dna? are we going to need a dna now?

and jsut because she didn't PAY to go through a 3rd party makes her way of getting pregnant less viable! if this guy gets nailed for child support, I will officially contribute court fees for it to go all the way to the supreme court.
the state is wrong. period
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I wonder what you people would be commenting if it were a heterosexual couple, and the male was sterile, and the woman was impregnated in the same way by the same donor?

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