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State trying to make sperm donor pay child support

 
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If the state decides to make a sperm donor pay child support the donor should just adopt the child.

I would love a mini me, I would raise him to kick ass and break hearts for breakfast.
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I think he just did it to be nice . and now it might cost him . guess some donors do not think of all the ramifications that go with "the gift" such as this kind of thing or when the child gets older and wants to look Daddy up .
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the gov't should not be able to undo an agreement between people. helloooo. this is just wrong on allll counts. what would the govt do if she got knocked up by sojmeone she met at a club? hunt down the guys dna? are we going to need a dna now?

and jsut because she didn't PAY to go through a 3rd party makes her way of getting pregnant less viable! if this guy gets nailed for child support, I will officially contribute court fees for it to go all the way to the supreme court.
the state is wrong. period
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Well then you're as worthless as he is. He had an OBLIGATION to ensure they had the proper resources to raise a child instead of taxpayers footing the bill for the stupidity of these ugly beasts. I say make him pay through the nose.
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Of course.. what an idiot.
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If the state decides to make a sperm donor pay child support the donor should just adopt the child.

I would love a mini me, I would raise him to kick ass and break hearts for breakfast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31384933


I think he just did it to be nice . and now it might cost him . guess some donors do not think of all the ramifications that go with "the gift" such as this kind of thing or when the child gets older and wants to look Daddy up .
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the gov't should not be able to undo an agreement between people. helloooo. this is just wrong on allll counts. what would the govt do if she got knocked up by sojmeone she met at a club? hunt down the guys dna? are we going to need a dna now?

and jsut because she didn't PAY to go through a 3rd party makes her way of getting pregnant less viable! if this guy gets nailed for child support, I will officially contribute court fees for it to go all the way to the supreme court.
the state is wrong. period
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Well then you're as worthless as he is. He had an OBLIGATION to ensure they had the proper resources to raise a child instead of taxpayers footing the bill for the stupidity of these ugly beasts. I say make him pay through the nose.
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well technically it IS his child . he did the deed and did not go through right way of going about it . I just hope the child will not be too affected by all of this in a negative way . I mean think about it - say your the kid and one day your old enough to go on the internet and see that your biological father might not care a rats ass about you :( or helping you out . Its a mixed up world we live in .
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The child is genetically his and he has a responsibility to provide for that child. I have no pity for him. Although if money was not the issue, we all know that the court would not have granted him visitation. They would have claimed that the child already had two parents, the lesbian idiots.

Our child support laws are downright evil. I know someone who is genetically not the father of a child, he never adopted the child, and he was never married to the mother, but he has to pay child support. His problem is that he was dating the mother and let her put his name down on the Birth Certificate. Proving that he wasn't the father did no good, he still has to pay.

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"Marotta agreed to drop off a container with his sperm at the couple's home and the women successfully handled the artificial insemination themselves".......

Hummm....sounds like a made up story to me.
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OPEKA, Kan. (AP) — A Kansas man who donated sperm to a lesbian couple after answering an online ad is fighting the state's efforts to suddenly force him to pay child support for the now 3-year-old girl, arguing that he and the women signed an agreement waiving all of his parental rights.

The case hinges on the fact that no doctors were used for the artificial insemination. The state argues that because William Marotta didn't work through a clinic or doctor, as required by state law, he can be held responsible for about $6,000 that the child's biological mother received through public assistance — as well as future child support.

Angela de Rocha, spokeswoman for the Kansas Department for Children and Families, said that when a single mother seeks benefits for a child, it's routine for the department to try to determine the child's paternity and require the father to make support payments to lessen the potential cost to taxpayers.

Marotta, a 46-year-old Topeka resident, answered an online ad in 2009 from a local couple, Angela Bauer and Jennifer Schreiner, who said they were seeking a sperm donor. After exchanging emails and meeting, the three signed an agreement relieving Marotta of any financial or paternal responsibility.

But instead of working with a doctor, Marotta agreed to drop off a container with his sperm at the couple's home and the women successfully handled the artificial insemination themselves. Schreiner become pregnant with a girl.

Late last year, after she and Bauer broke up, Schreiner received public assistance from the state to help care for the girl.

The Kansas Department for Children and Families filed a court petition against Marotta in October, asking that he be required to reimburse the state for the benefits and make future child support payments. Marotta is asking that the case be dismissed, arguing that he's not legally the child's father, only a sperm donor.

A hearing is set for Tuesday.

Marotta told The Topeka-Capital Journal that he is "a little scared about where this is going to go, primarily for financial reasons."

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 Quoting: he didnt go through a clinic 27951003


The medical Mafia wins again.

He should sue her for entrapment (maybe even some form of rape), and his payments he receives from his case should be deducted from hers, which she willnot be able to pay, so the interest accrued should ruin her financially, and she should then sue her accomplice (the other Sodomist involved).

In the meantime he sues for parental rights to have his child live with him, because the mother is a criminal and in jail
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Pics of the lovely ladies
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It's a wonder the sperm didn't turn back at the test tube.
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It must have been artificial insemanation, nobody could look at either one of them and get it up!
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Diesel Dykers?

(I didn't want to look!)
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The child is genetically his and he has a responsibility to provide for that child. I have no pity for him. Although if money was not the issue, we all know that the court would not have granted him visitation. They would have claimed that the child already had two parents, the lesbian idiots.

Our child support laws are downright evil. I know someone who is genetically not the father of a child, he never adopted the child, and he was never married to the mother, but he has to pay child support. His problem is that he was dating the mother and let her put his name down on the Birth Certificate. Proving that he wasn't the father did no good, he still has to pay.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


So if this was a hetero couple that needed a donor then the couple broke up would it be fair that the donor would have to pay child support or the childs father.

or are you blinede by biggotry?
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The child is genetically his and he has a responsibility to provide for that child. I have no pity for him. Although if money was not the issue, we all know that the court would not have granted him visitation. They would have claimed that the child already had two parents, the lesbian idiots.

Our child support laws are downright evil. I know someone who is genetically not the father of a child, he never adopted the child, and he was never married to the mother, but he has to pay child support. His problem is that he was dating the mother and let her put his name down on the Birth Certificate. Proving that he wasn't the father did no good, he still has to pay.
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Better his money than my tax money paying for it...
I had nothing to do with it!
It's all I can do to keep the welfare parasite squandering presumptive presidential family and their regime afloat
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Someone already said this, if you are male, never trust a lesbian.
Usually there is a deep seated hatred of men, and they would like nothing more than to fuck you over.

Every lesbian I have dealt with has had it out for me, they won't admit it, but they hate all men.
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Pics of the lovely ladies
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It's a wonder the sperm didn't turn back at the test tube.
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It must have been artificial insemanation, nobody could look at either one of them and get it up!
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Pics of the lovely ladies
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oh mann... do hope the kid will be ok . sigh they should not be the ones to suffer .
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* they as in the child of the messed up situation .
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Can you imagine back to school night?
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hmmm, interesting.
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Pics of the lovely ladies
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31369771


It's a wonder the sperm didn't turn back at the test tube.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31399598


It must have been artificial insemanation, nobody could look at either one of them and get it up!
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ALL the girls get pretty at closing time.
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I couldn't hold that much liquor, i would die of poisoning firstpartycat1

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and you believe you are free
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He signed away his parental rights, how is he responsible for taking care of a child he has no rights to? If he is to be forced to pay child support, then he should at least get joint custody.
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I wonder what you people would be commenting if it were a heterosexual couple, and the male was sterile, and the woman was impregnated in the same way by the same donor?

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Ohhhhhh NOOOOOOOOs!
Don't you go doin that. You'll meeke der hayds explode!pump2
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The child is genetically his and he has a responsibility to provide for that child. I have no pity for him. Although if money was not the issue, we all know that the court would not have granted him visitation. They would have claimed that the child already had two parents, the lesbian idiots.

Our child support laws are downright evil. I know someone who is genetically not the father of a child, he never adopted the child, and he was never married to the mother, but he has to pay child support. His problem is that he was dating the mother and let her put his name down on the Birth Certificate. Proving that he wasn't the father did no good, he still has to pay.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


So if this was a hetero couple that needed a donor then the couple broke up would it be fair that the donor would have to pay child support or the childs father.

or are you blinede by biggotry?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310035


It doesn't matter who the idiots are who he gave his sperm to, the child is his flesh and blood.
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The child is genetically his and he has a responsibility to provide for that child. I have no pity for him. Although if money was not the issue, we all know that the court would not have granted him visitation. They would have claimed that the child already had two parents, the lesbian idiots.

Our child support laws are downright evil. I know someone who is genetically not the father of a child, he never adopted the child, and he was never married to the mother, but he has to pay child support. His problem is that he was dating the mother and let her put his name down on the Birth Certificate. Proving that he wasn't the father did no good, he still has to pay.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


So if this was a hetero couple that needed a donor then the couple broke up would it be fair that the donor would have to pay child support or the childs father.

or are you blinede by biggotry?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310035


It doesn't matter who the idiots are who he gave his sperm to, the child is his flesh and blood.
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Exactly, because of him a real life human being came into the world, so now he has an obligation to support this child... Why should the child suffer because he or she has a dufus for a mother and an imbecile for a Father....
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Yeah its a crying shame. But he should have read the fine print.

Like I said, adopt the kid its a better alternative then paying child support and having no say in how your seed grows up.
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Exactly what fine print was he supposed to read?

He signed an agreement relinquishing all parental rights, in return having no financial responsibility.

For the state to step in and sue him is a novel theory for which there's no existing "fine print".
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The child is genetically his and he has a responsibility to provide for that child. I have no pity for him. Although if money was not the issue, we all know that the court would not have granted him visitation. They would have claimed that the child already had two parents, the lesbian idiots.

Our child support laws are downright evil. I know someone who is genetically not the father of a child, he never adopted the child, and he was never married to the mother, but he has to pay child support. His problem is that he was dating the mother and let her put his name down on the Birth Certificate. Proving that he wasn't the father did no good, he still has to pay.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


So if this was a hetero couple that needed a donor then the couple broke up would it be fair that the donor would have to pay child support or the childs father.

or are you blinede by biggotry?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310035


It doesn't matter who the idiots are who he gave his sperm to, the child is his flesh and blood.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower

That argument would not work though if he had gone through a doctor. Then his agreement absolving him of all financial responsibility would be binding on the state too, apparently.

Why should it matter that he didn't go through a doctor?

The lesbians should hate this, if this guy has to pay they will have a harder time getting guys to donate sperm to help them out in having a family.
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Someone already said this, if you are male, never trust a lesbian.
Usually there is a deep seated hatred of men, and they would like nothing more than to fuck you over.

Every lesbian I have dealt with has had it out for me, they won't admit it, but they hate all men.
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exploited, love.

I can just feel your pain oozing out of my monitor. Youve had it hard (well, apparently, where you havent wanted that, hopefully when you want it hard, it has been!)

Every lesbian has it out for you? Honey, darling, there are three kinds of people, and teh dykes are nothing but a subset. There are kind, loving people, there are bitter, conniving people, and there are those that really (I know hard to believe) dont give a rat's arse about you.

You talk of a "deep seated hatred of men". Methinks the issues you evince speak more to your interactions with people of which a few lesbians naturally crossed your sour-pussed path.

When young, this card-carrying lesbian (and a fat one too!), used to think all men hated her (and all women). Ya, those bastards are out there, and some of the child rapists, muslim "honor" HA! killers and satanists are far worse than anything my 20-something mind could have imagined. But then I owned my interactions with people, and have come to grow in love for all people, even, are ya ready, MEN!

exploited, I encourage you to do the same.

With love.
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That's just not right, at all. Especially since he says he signed a waiver - yet another case of parents wanting someone else to pay for their children/responsibilities. If you can't afford to take care of your child(ren) YOURSELF, then don't have any! I know sometimes people fall on hard times, and in those cases, I don't mind someone needing and uses help, but when I see parents who have one kid after another, who don't work and don't try to work, yet thanks to food stamps, welfare cash benefits, housing help, etc. - they live better then me, that ticks me off. We were on food stamps once, for 2 months, back a few years ago when my husband got hurt at work and had to have shoulder surgery, but I took the first job I was offered and got off the assistance asap. More people should do the same.
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exploited,

One other VERY IMPORTANT thing.

This is not about lesbians! Its about the state and its ceaseless and insanely inane march to control us. Teh dykes aint exploiting you (US); THE STATE IS.
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state is required to prove paternity and he probably already fucked up and admitted paternity somehow. some states try to force you to sign a voluntary acknowledgment of paternity form at birth to lock you in to the system.

durp

right here "Marotta is asking that the case be dismissed, arguing that he's not legally the child's father, only a sperm donor." <<FAIL get a lawyer next time

now he is on the hook for 50 grand
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exploited,

One other VERY IMPORTANT thing.

This is not about lesbians! Its about the state and its ceaseless and insanely inane march to control us. Teh dykes aint exploiting you (US); THE STATE IS.
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Yes, in this case the lesbian couple didn't sue him. They probably didn't even know he was being sued until it hit the news or something. The state sued him, just because he didn't dot all the i's and cross all the t's legally in preventing them from doing so.

I've seen lesbians who hate men too, obviously because they feel extremely abused and bitter about men. I feel very sorry for them. But that's not all lesbians, someone above says she was able to overcome much of her hurt hf, and even if it were, the lesbians are not suing him here.
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If all three signed a document saying he was giving up all his rights to the child he shouldn't have a problem getting out of it. The women knew what they were doing, and now it seems raising a kid wasn't as fun as they thought it would be and now they want someone else to pay for their mistake. People need to learn to take responsibility for their own mistakes and quit running to the government or a lawyer to try and fix them for them.
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You guys are not getting the true point here: homossexuals are the cause of a great part of the problems of the actual society. This twisted behavior is being imposed onto people as natural, biological and beautyfull. People are being mislead to believe that homossexuals are more intelligent, more evolved than straights. Straights are being shown as retrograde or "out of the new scope". This particular case, could be the first of many others. Sperm donors, pro-homossexuality, will now think twice before helping these homossexual "couples". They should never have done it in the first place.
I know many will disagree, but homossexuality is wrong in all points of views: moral, religious, social and even scientific. Yes, even scientifically, homossexuality is wrong. If you look through this prism, scientifically we are an evolution, a species that evolved from something else. Evolution is based on mutation of the offspring. Homossexuals cannot generate offspring(thus the need of a sperm donor), so, they will not make "the next step" of the evolutionary chain.
Now, some may arguee: I know someone that since childhood, know him/herself to be "different", and with this misinformed conclusion, will try to say that homossexuality is biological. Well, it is NOT. Homossexuality is only behavioral, children look to examples, if a child have the homossexual tendency, its not because of their "biological tendency", its because something or someone they heard or saw.
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LMAO!... Realllllly?

Now if you wanna preach your beliefs that homosexuality is wrong, please go ahead, I ain't gonna stop you. Thats your opinion and you are more than entitled to it...

But PLEASE don't try and argue your point with nonsense like its 'scientifically wrong'??? What the f**k? lol.

My favorite part of that bit was "...they will not take the next step"... pick


Homosexuals aren't a different species you tw*t! Gays don't breed more gay's, you don't get packs of them grazing together, or flocks of homosexuals migrating south for winter... And if you wanna talk evolution well, sorry but you've shot yourself in the foot their a bit really haven't you, because we didn't start off as gay monkey's swinging round tree branches sporting handlebar monkey-tash's and denim hot pants... technically we EVOLVED THE ABILITY TO BE HOMOSEXUAL IF WE CHOSE, and good or bad, homosexuality is one product of our evolution...

And if you really wanna bury the "its scientifically wrong" drivel where it belongs, then technically we have not only evolved the ability to 'be' homosexual, but also evolved intelligently enough to circumnavigate the whole 'male+female=child' math with the advent of artificial insemination and gender re-assignment... so really the "they can't have offspring" thing is nonsense too because, well... they can thanks to our natural scientific advancement which again is linked to our evolution.

In a nutshell... you wanted to say you hate homosexuality because of you religious beliefs... realized you would look like a bigot, so instead tried the 'science' angle... and well... failed horribly.

My advice... just say what you felt in the first place.

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So if this case is won does that mean a hooker can have a child and get the 'John' to pay child support just because the condom broke?