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David Lory VanDerBeek 1 hour ago


"Hence, the troop trading and training with foreign nations right now such as Russia. Foreign troops are already here and they will put on American uniforms to betray the people."



Is this guy for real? Russian troops ready to Martial Law the USA?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Wow, undeniable proof that all of this is just a great spectacle. The Matrix.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano



Doesn't Russia hang with Iran?

Doesn't Doorbert have a thread similar to this on now?

Nothing but Nothing would surprise me anymore.
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David Lory VanDerBeek 1 hour ago


"Hence, the troop trading and training with foreign nations right now such as Russia. Foreign troops are already here and they will put on American uniforms to betray the people."



Is this guy for real? Russian troops ready to Martial Law the USA?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Wow, undeniable proof that all of this is just a great spectacle. The Matrix.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano



Doesn't Russia hang with Iran?

Doesn't Doorbert have a thread similar to this on now?

Nothing but Nothing would surprise me anymore.
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Link?
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its up to every single individual now?
reform the milita forget about national guard?
after that constitution will be save?

think about it.....

there was and is a reson for 2nd amendment.
to avoid foricble overthrow of the constitution!
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Experience in America prior to the U.S. Constitution





Ideals that helped to inspire the Second Amendment in part are symbolized by the minutemen.[25]
In no particular order, early American settlers viewed the right to arms and/or the right to bear arms and/or state militias as important for one or more of these purposes:[26][27][28][29][30][31][32][33]
deterring tyrannical government;[34]
repelling invasion;
suppressing insurrection;
facilitating a natural right of self-defense;
participating in law enforcement;
enabling the people to organize a militia system.

Which of these considerations they thought were most important, which of these considerations they were most alarmed about, and the extent to which each of these considerations ultimately found expression in the Second Amendment is disputed. Some of these purposes were explicitly mentioned in early state constitutions; for example, the Pennsylvania Constitution of 1776 asserted that, "the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state".[35]

During the 1760s pre-revolutionary period, the established colonial militia was composed of colonists, which included a number who were loyal to British imperial rule. As defiance and opposition to the British rule developed, a distrust of these Loyalists in the militia became widespread among the colonists, known as Patriots, who favored independence from British rule. As a result, these Patriots established independent colonial legislatures to create their own militias that excluded the Loyalists and then sought out to stock up independent armories for their militias. In response to this arms build up, the British Parliament established an embargo on firearms, parts and ammunition on the American colonies.[36]

British and Loyalist efforts to disarm the colonial Patriot militia armories in the early phases of the American Revolution resulted in the Patriot colonists protesting by citing the Declaration of Rights, Blackstone's summary of the Declaration of Rights, their own militia laws and common law rights to self-defense.[37] While British policy in the early phases of the Revolution clearly aimed to prevent coordinated action by the Patriot militia, some have argued that there is no evidence that the British sought to restrict the traditional common law right of self-defense.[37] Patrick J. Charles disputes these claims citing similar disarming by the patriots and challenging those scholars' interpretation of Blackstone.[38]

The right of the colonists to arms and rebellion against oppression was asserted, for example, in a pre-revolutionary newspaper editorial in 1769 Boston objecting to the British army suppression of colonial opposition to the Townshend Acts:


Instances of the licentious and outrageous behavior of the military conservators of the peace still multiply upon us, some of which are of such nature, and have been carried to such lengths, as must serve fully to evince that a late vote of this town, calling upon its inhabitants to provide themselves with arms for their defense, was a measure as prudent as it was legal: such violences are always to be apprehended from military troops, when quartered in the body of a populous city; but more especially so, when they are led to believe that they are become necessary to awe a spirit of rebellion, injuriously said to be existing therein. It is a natural right which the people have reserved to themselves, confirmed by the Bill of Rights, to keep arms for their own defence; and as Mr. Blackstone observes, it is to be made use of when the sanctions of society and law are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression.[37]

The armed forces that won the American Revolution consisted of the standing Continental Army created by the Continental Congress, together with various state and regional militia units. In opposition, the British forces consisted of a mixture of the standing British Army, Loyalist Militia and Hessian mercenaries. Following the Revolution, the United States was governed by the Articles of Confederation. Federalists argued that this government had an unworkable division of power between Congress and the states, which caused military weakness, as the standing army was reduced to as few as 80 men.[39] They considered it to be bad that there was no effective federal military crackdown to an armed tax rebellion in western Massachusetts known as Shays' Rebellion.[40] Anti-federalists on the other hand took the side of limited government and sympathized with the rebels, many of whom were former Revolutionary War soldiers. Subsequently, the Philadelphia Convention proposed in 1787 to grant Congress exclusive power to raise and support a standing army and navy of unlimited size.[41][42] Anti-federalists objected to the shift of power from the states to the federal government, but as adoption of the Constitution became more and more likely, they shifted their strategy to establishing a bill of rights that would put some limits on federal power.[43]

Modern scholars Thomas B. McAffee and Michael J. Quinlan have stated that James Madison "did not invent the right to keep and bear arms when he drafted the Second Amendment; the right was pre-existing at both common law and in the early state constitutions."[44] In contrast, historian Jack Rakove suggests that Madison's intention in framing the Second Amendment was to provide assurances to moderate Anti-Federalists that the militias would not be disarmed.[45]

One aspect of the gun control debate is the conflict between gun control laws and the right to rebel against unjust governments. Blackstone in his Commentaries alluded to this right to rebel as the natural right of resistance and self preservation, to be used only as a last resort, exercisable when "the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression".[46] Some believe that the framers of the Bill of Rights sought to balance not just political power, but also military power, between the people, the states and the nation,[47] as Alexander Hamilton explained in 1788:


f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude[,] that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens.[47][48]

Some scholars have said that it is wrong to read a right of armed insurrection in the Second Amendment because clearly the founding fathers sought to place trust in the power of the ordered liberty of democratic government versus the anarchy of insurrectionists.[49][50] Other scholars, such as Glenn Reynolds, contend that the framers did believe in an individual right to armed insurrection. The latter scholars cite examples, such as the Declaration of Independence (describing in 1776 "the Right of the People to...institute new Government") and the New Hampshire Constitution (stating in 1784 that "nonresistance against arbitrary power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind").[51]

There was an ongoing debate in the 1780s about "the people" fighting governmental tyranny (as described by Anti-Federalists); or the risk of mob rule of "the people" (as described by the Federalists) related to the ongoing revolution in France.[52] A widespread fear, during the debates on the ratification of the Constitution, was the possibility of a military takeover of the states by the federal government, which could happen if the Congress passed laws prohibiting states from arming citizens,[53] or prohibiting citizens from arming themselves.[37] Though it has been argued that the states lost the power to arm their citizens when the power to arm the militia was transferred from the states to the federal government by Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution, the individual right to arm was retained and strengthened by the Militia Act of 1792 and the similar act of 1795.
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Thank you for the bumps and pins. Hopefully everyone will spread this video like the plague. This guy's word needs to be heard more than ever.

Awareness, above all else, is the most powerful weapon. The crooks in office can smell the rage. They will back down the more anger they smell.
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ever wondered about bush and hitler relations?

[link to rense.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.cuttingedge.org]

who has put obama in place????
gwb!

its all planned.
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Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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isn't there some organisation called the oathkeepers?

what do they say about all this?
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blah blah blah

in 2003 we were saying the same thing under Bush

where the hell were these people THEN?

The atrocities committed by Bush Inc far surpassed anything Obama has done. Why didn't these people want to "take their country back" then?
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What was the excuse for 1913 and when JFK was murdered?
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They never ask that question,do they? The ideological blinders apparently renders them stupid.

They certainly know nothing of history.
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VERY educational for most of the sheeple, who MAY be able to comprehend the spoken word/have the time and patience to view it ALL !
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David Lory VanDerBeek 1 hour ago


"Hence, the troop trading and training with foreign nations right now such as Russia. Foreign troops are already here and they will put on American uniforms to betray the people."



Is this guy for real? Russian troops ready to Martial Law the USA?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Wow, undeniable proof that all of this is just a great spectacle. The Matrix.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


There are always foreign troops here in the US and abroad embedded with our troops. The ones that are here are doing training, school, security for foreign diplomats and yes spys.

WAKE UP AMERICA
WAKE UP AMERICA
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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Wolf in sheep's clothing. Listen to the entire thing.

You guys recognize only the gun problem.
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bsflag
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How do they say F*** you in Canadian ?
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what the gov. says is not only for the us but also for
other western countries!
the EU will also become a second 3rd Reich!
the leaders here are ignoring law, rules against the people,
all media makes propaganda, total control on everything
so much and to much synonymous to the fucking hitler past
it will get worse for all of us
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There are so many spelling & grammatical errors in his video description I'm hesitant to waste an hour of my life watching the video.
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Wow another English teacher. So just because he screwed up on the grammar on the description of his video you are hesitant to watch. Spelling and grammar doesn't mean shit here. Not many people care because it's the message that's important. Watch the video then decide if it rings truth, but don't dismiss it because the spellings wrong on the description. For all we know his wife or secretary wrote that.
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One's manner of speech largely determines the audience they will attract. Speaking in broken English, single syllables, and grammar that would embarrass a third grader will inevitably attract only the dumbest of people. If "git r done" strikes you as intelligent discourse, then that is fine for you. For most of us, we expect not to mentally stoop to another person's level just to be able to communicate.
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Hey AC ...41383

You're acting like a complete asshole. The time for your kind of bullshit is long passed,,, so ffuck off, moron!
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It amazes me that so many people come to a discussion forum but would rather resort to petty insults instead of engaging in meaningful discussion. It's like going to a track and, instead of running to get exercise, just sitting on the sidelines and shouting obscenities at those who are racing.
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He is Mormon. So I don't know how much I can trust this guy's word.
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Dude wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Watch the video!!!!!!!!!
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He is Mormon. So I don't know how much I can trust this guy's word.
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Dude wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Watch the video!!!!!!!!!
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Yea. Time for everyone to snap out of it. This shit is now for real.
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By the way, it's super easy to become the Constitution Party candidate for anything...considering they usually hold their "Enormous" (sarcasm) political conventions at the back corner table of the local Denny's Restaurant.
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that's fine and all.

but listen to the guys message then judge
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My God half the people on this thread are Idiots. Did you even watch the video??? This guy if nothing else points it out for you completely. Time to wake up, it does not matter what party this guy is from or where he's going. Bottom line is he just laid it out for you and you still have not a clue. This has been going on from the two party's that win, Red and Blue they are the same. Give it time they were in no rush but believe me they are ready, been getting ready for a long time. Bush Clinton Bush Obama they all have a roll in this piece by piece bit by bit. Paving the way for this day . When the guns are gone so is are freedom. If they can take away the right to bare arms whats next look at the past it's all laid out for you. If you can't see what is going on here it's because you don't want to. At least this guy has balls to say what needs to be said. Wake up before it's to late. When the guns are gone so is are freedom.
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David Lory VanDerBeek 1 hour ago


"Hence, the troop trading and training with foreign nations right now such as Russia. Foreign troops are already here and they will put on American uniforms to betray the people."



Is this guy for real? Russian troops ready to Martial Law the USA?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Wow, undeniable proof that all of this is just a great spectacle. The Matrix.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


There are always foreign troops here in the US and abroad embedded with our troops. The ones that are here are doing training, school, security for foreign diplomats and yes spys.

WAKE UP AMERICA
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


Stands to reason it would be easier for a foreign troop to shoot at us as opposed to one of our own.
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I couldn't even find this thread. Had to do a search




SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bump
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It would very much behoove the foreign troops to get here then turn coat and side with us.

They would have much to gain.
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There are so many spelling & grammatical errors in his video description I'm hesitant to waste an hour of my life watching the video.
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Wow another English teacher. So just because he screwed up on the grammar on the description of his video you are hesitant to watch. Spelling and grammar doesn't mean shit here. Not many people care because it's the message that's important. Watch the video then decide if it rings truth, but don't dismiss it because the spellings wrong on the description. For all we know his wife or secretary wrote that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31424811


One's manner of speech largely determines the audience they will attract. Speaking in broken English, single syllables, and grammar that would embarrass a third grader will inevitably attract only the dumbest of people. If "git r done" strikes you as intelligent discourse, then that is fine for you. For most of us, we expect not to mentally stoop to another person's level just to be able to communicate.
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Get over you self we're not all Fucking English teachers SHILL if you don't like the title why the fuck are you still here beat it go to a fucking spelling bee or something more to liking SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!
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The problem with this country is you pompous pressumptuous prick assholes can't even look at a true critical issue without sitting their critiquing grammar or some fucking mindless queer garbage like that. I am fucking beside myself witnessing the worthless ess of some of you people.

You must be women because your faggotty nit picky feminine whining reminds me of my cunt sister inlaw's who deserve a solid crack across their fat worthless asses. You are pathetic and deserve to get gang raped. Even if you are a guy.

For once, quit hiding behind the bullshit. Reach down, grab your fucking nuts (or labia) and look at the issue. Focussing on side issues like grammar and spelling makes you a total fucking asshole.

I am working over time multitasking on 30 different issues because unlike you worthless sheeple I am fucking doing something real. I don't have time to cater to your comete queer homosexual need to be catered to. So fuck you and your self righteous undeserved cunt mucus. Siri corrects my spelling. I type at 80 wpm if she can't keep up and you don't have an IQ point to decipher it then get your whining pussy ass off my thread.

Now man up and watch the dudes video cause I guarantee hell be dead in six months.
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wow op you totally lost any credence with me. anyone who hates women the way you obviously do, has serious mental issues. you may have had a point, but your hatred clouded your whole message.
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Oh fuck off you sanctimonious prick. He is frustrated with these spelltards and grammartards. His message is on target.

His rant was rather amusing to me and I agree with him.
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Yea me too. OP and the dude in the video right on target. I don't hate women just idiots....
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Ya know,
technically i think he is right, but I don't think he understands how horrible a civil war would be in this country. Violence needs to be avoided until it is the last option possible. Its fine to talk like a badass and say that you are ready to die, but it's entirely another thing to bring the war to them. We still have free speech in this country. Now is not the time to waste that right. we also still have judges who believe whole-heartedly in the constitution and the 2nd amendment. We also have states who wont enforce any law that is unconstitutional, Texas and TN are just two examples.

Prepare, absolutely, advocate violence or try to start a civil war? No way. War is hell.
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He's not talking about starting a war stupid. Does he need to draw little pictures for you to understand.
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Ya know,
technically i think he is right, but I don't think he understands how horrible a civil war would be in this country. Violence needs to be avoided until it is the last option possible. Its fine to talk like a badass and say that you are ready to die, but it's entirely another thing to bring the war to them. We still have free speech in this country. Now is not the time to waste that right. we also still have judges who believe whole-heartedly in the constitution and the 2nd amendment. We also have states who wont enforce any law that is unconstitutional, Texas and TN are just two examples.

Prepare, absolutely, advocate violence or try to start a civil war? No way. War is hell.
 Quoting: <<FOCUS HARDER>>


We do not need Civil War and there should not be any such talk.

What we do need is for those who would break the law and try to enforce color of law statute on us to be aware that we have the right to resist their actions with force.

This is not about Civil War, it is about enforcing the law of the land, and when Congress will not uphold it and the executive branch will not do it, it is up to the people to do it.

Government is NOT the master, the people are, that is the very reason for the 2nd Amendment and the DUTY falls to us to enforce the law on them when they break it.
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Wow someone gets it. I could not have put it any better. It's not our right it's our duty our job our part the part no one wants to have to do. If you don't like the Bill of Rights or the constitution our right to bare arms you can leave. There are plenty of country's you can move to with gun bans where you can feel safe. Let me know how that works out for ya. God bless America and the people who have the bell of Liberty ringing in there ears..
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I am so proud of you. Thank you so much for standing up. Bless you and your own Peace and Love Forever
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First of all, I totally totally applaud this man of his courage in speaking out publicly.

I'm not sure his message will be received by the vast majority of Omericans due to some of the content.. Sandy Hook Hoax and the comparision of the O administration to the Nazis.

Comments such as "drinking the kool-aid" and the SH hoax lead me to believe he may reside among us on this forum.

I believe what he says.. but.. here comes some constructive criticism.

He does ramble on and on about Hitler. While that may be a very accurate portrayal of what is going on here, he does tend to drone on and I had to force myself to listen. I would suggest he condense this portion or liven it up with his voice inflection.

If he is pursuing public service he should really invest in a speaking/speech class or instuctor. It will be invaluable to him in the future.

Thank you for being outspoken David. I pray it will be at no risk to you or your family.
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He got his point across to the people who wanted to hear it. If you can do a better job have at it I can't wait to see your video I look forward to it in fact.. 15 min's lets see it. Lot of info to jam into 15 mins good luck...
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Bumpity bump bump.
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Sadly this awesome guy will never win
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We're dropping truth bombs like it's the end of days!