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What Prophecy To Believe? It's driving me mad.

 
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What Prophecy To Believe? It's driving me mad.
So I'm currently growing up in an extremely catholic family, in which my mom takes control over us all and 'teaches' us about the monthly apparitions of the Virgin Mary in Croatia. My mom would literally hit me if I'd say anything in contradictory about these prophecies, because she holds them as the holy truth. For her, everything is real and she claims Mary helps her in daily situations.

Through the books and articles I'm reading, it's clear that there are thousands and thousands of other claimed prophecies and revelations, each with a different message and each with a different context. Mary is telling us that if we don't open our heart to her and what she calls 'God', we will end up with Satan and eventually go to hell. But what about ALL the other revelations that have happened throughout the time?

The apparitions must have happened, because we cannot claim the involved people to be stupid. Has it something to do with what they truly believe? In the books of Neale Donald Walsch it is clear that humans can create anything, as long as they believe in it.

In the revelations of the Virgin Mary I see nothing but fear and sadness, in other revelations though it is said that all fear is an illusion and that eventually every soul will turn back to unconditional love God. Mary would be crying tears of blood because of the many souls that get lost. I personally don't believe in the fires of hell. There are so many concepts of hell. John Paul II said Hell is a state of mind, while the current pope says Hell is a literal place of fire, and other sources claim that Hell is not a campfire but simply a grave or a place of darkness.

There's more things, in the prophecies of Maria Valtorta for example, it is said that an ox and ass were present during Jesus' birth, while in 2012 the pope declared that there has never been a real source supporting that event. Many things are misinterpreted, though many people claim to have visits from whoever they believe(Jesus, Mary, Muhammad, Krishna etc.)

What's happening here?
And someday soon they'll drop the bomb and
Let it all out some day
I know that some day soon we'll all be gone so
Let it all out, let it all out
Today
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01/03/2013 09:53 AM
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There are no more revelations or apparitions from GOD anymore... that is why the bible was written ..all the testimony is in there. These apparitions are not from GOD. be careful.. Catholisism is full of occultism..
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01/03/2013 10:41 AM
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Prophecy is complete utter malarky and sure the fearful people in this world need to project into a future because the lives they live (manipulated circumstances and poor decisions=ignorance) are hard.

Study origins and a little insight into people and organizations who, to keep their relevance in a dynamic adaptive world need to create the circumstances so that they remain relevant (poor doctrine) and grab your being and money.

Money and unethical people and psychics need your belief in order to make a living based on your fears, doubts and confusions.

It is easier for them to manipulate and form a construct around the person/s and keep tabs on you in a particular way and fuck with you from a distance.

I always have wondered why people suffer and the variables are never constant but rather different for each individual.

I spent some time pondering and doing some hard thinking and came up with a design and perhaps it was intuitive work (this world and our sciences are based on reason and the feely mealy crap had very little to do with it though they try hard to convince you otherwise).

Now I do not know.. but before Edgar Tolle came out with his crap and the "Live in Now" bullshit and mindfucked a lot of people out of money, time and resources and perhaps sent them a little further into the mind trap.
I came up with a nifty design or perhaps pattern to buffer myself from other peoples unwellness so that pathos would perhaps come into play.
Graceless and Skeptical as hell!!!
"Self discipline gets things done. Making a plan and then sticking to that plan despite our inner weaknesses and apprehensions gives greater returns in the long run. This method not only earns the respect we hold for ourselves, but also the respect others hold for us. The flaky and indecisive cannot be relied upon."
" Belief is just a word for something one refuses to study the origins of, or reason out!!!
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alright most people live either in the past or future but all other life on this planet is usually in a state of being and with living in either of those to states their is suffering as with those states there is a lot of Fears, Doubts and Confusions.
Also since quite a few people are usually traumatized by a poor decisions or abuse they are lost in a past and wishing for a better future aka seers make a good living on other peoples ignorance and pick up on your projections of past or future.

Past= (BEING)= Future

with the past and future state the fears doubts and confusion usually becomes frustation=inability to understand.
Life sometimes is a series of habits that people would rather pawn off on genetics (communists wet dream) than change or even believe that they will be afflicted the rest of their lives with it and now must take pills that usually kill them slowly (eugenics).

In my opinion there is no "now" as that entails a lot of ignorance and is "folly's best friend".
"Being" on the other hand is extremely difficult as a lot of people based their daily living and well being on the emotions states and feelings and project it on the world and others around them.

I have observed that having others like that around can due incredible damage to themselves and others around them.

Last Edited by dirkdedaring on 01/06/2013 03:44 PM
Graceless and Skeptical as hell!!!
"Self discipline gets things done. Making a plan and then sticking to that plan despite our inner weaknesses and apprehensions gives greater returns in the long run. This method not only earns the respect we hold for ourselves, but also the respect others hold for us. The flaky and indecisive cannot be relied upon."
" Belief is just a word for something one refuses to study the origins of, or reason out!!!
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01/03/2013 11:12 AM
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Now imagine emotional and belief (delusional) ridden people have the ability and means to manipulate a ton of stuff (SCIENCE, ART, LITERATURE, MOVIES HISTORY etc) for the last while and have added an emotional twist or the poor ME B.S. based on something they can not prove, let alone lived it.

Think about that and ponder prophecy is usually the tool predators need to mess with you because prophecy needs your belief and being catholic is hard as you must always be on your knees to the idiots in rome who never starve and their needs are taken care of while the flock suffers....
Graceless and Skeptical as hell!!!
"Self discipline gets things done. Making a plan and then sticking to that plan despite our inner weaknesses and apprehensions gives greater returns in the long run. This method not only earns the respect we hold for ourselves, but also the respect others hold for us. The flaky and indecisive cannot be relied upon."
" Belief is just a word for something one refuses to study the origins of, or reason out!!!
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The Marian apparitions seem to be a part of the Vaticans (and the dimensional entities they are in league with) metamorposis of Biblical Xtianity into the Babylonian Mystery Religion - or the NWO Luciferic religion.

They have gradually deified Mary as the 'Queen of Heaven' a co-redemptrix immaculately concieved herself and bodily ascended into heaven. She has in fact been transformed from an ordinary woman as per the bible, into Isis/Semiramis.

Here is a page with some decent prophecy in it.

[link to www.jrnyquist.com]
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01/03/2013 11:48 AM
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Believe the words of no-one.

God will not fault you for using the brain he gave you.
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There are hundreds of fulfilled prophecies in Holy Scripture [i.e. The Bible].

Believe those and keep your faith in Jesus Christ and you will have Eternal Life. That is all that really matters.



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01/03/2013 11:58 AM
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a prophecy is the same as a good sci-fi novel.

This happens when people lacks of critical thinking abylity and beleive that the fictional story they just read was the truth.

But truth is what one feels! you can not be told about the truth! It is something you find when you seek it!
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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01/26/2013 12:24 AM
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Here is the best of Catholic prophecies and much more;
Jesus explains Global Warming
[link to catholicguidance.blogspot.ca]
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So I'm currently growing up in an extremely catholic family, in which my mom takes control over us all and 'teaches' us about the monthly apparitions of the Virgin Mary in Croatia. My mom would literally hit me if I'd say anything in contradictory about these prophecies, because she holds them as the holy truth. For her, everything is real and she claims Mary helps her in daily situations.
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Did you check that link?
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01/26/2013 06:48 AM
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Look out for people like Moses, Elijah, Jesus etc. as they fulfull Bible prophecies in great global events. Must realise the author of The Holy Bible Is God, and He has been revealed already in the last days that He is Jesus, He works in three Offices because He can, He is Omnipotent, and God has never been three separate people as we were taught, an impossible thing, The Messiah is Jesus, Who Is the Great Creator, He is The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. These prophets appear to be offensive as they cut straight on sin but if people listen and follow they will realise afterwards it is the only way to achieve spiritual and natural success as you are then blessed from the most High, His laws cannot be bent, He eventually wipes out a whole human race due to their refusal to listen, as the world becomes a cess pool, it therefore needs to be sweeped clean like you would clean out your own house. Most of God's prophets are killed because the people like sin more.

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