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WILL NOT COMPLY!

We the people have the right to defend ourselves, f that right is infringed, then we have the right to organize as a militia to ensure a FREE STATE!

NON-NEGOTIABLE! PERIOD!!

You'll get mine bullets first!
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As of Dec. 21, 2012 and since Jan. 1 2012, Chicago police have recorded 2,364 shooting incidents and 487 homicides, 87 percent of them gun-related. Shootings have increased 12 percent this year and homicides are up 19 percent. As of today that number of homicides went above 500 for the year.

Chicago is an extremely violent city because criminals possess the largest portion of guns there. And in 2012 alone, 1.5 people died each day after being shot by bad people with guns.

Chicago long ago went in the very direction Barack Obama, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), and Mayor Michael Bloomberg want our entire country to go with in regard to gun laws. And has this made the city safer? Absolutely not. Instead, 532 people were killed by criminals with guns in Chicago during the 2012 calendar year alone. Why has this not worked? Because guns are still flooding in from all over the state of Illinois.

You can't expect the guns to not get into urban cities like Chicago when they are surrounded by guns. This new law should really save a lot of lives.

Not having this law keeps things the way they are, having this law can do NOTHING BUT SAVE LIVES. prove me wrong?
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THe bill will be "shot" down. Pretty ballsy of them to do this amidst the recent McDonald v. Chicago SCOTUS case.
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BAIN BAIN BAIN !!!!!!!
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What does BAIN mean.
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Have you heard/seen the results of a home search for weapons? And witha warrant they are not responsible for that damage.
"You want my guns? I seem to have misplaced my guns. I think they fell out of my boat and are at the bottom of the reservoir."

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Illinois is having a problem.

They want to ban guns, their crime exceeded 500 last year, and I just read a Denny's kicked out cops with guns (because customers complained?)

That would be a good test of their plan.

Go ahead and confiscate all guns, especially in Chicago, so decent people are defenseless and criminals have a field day. You think 25-50 or so cops can stop hundreds of criminals?

Go ahead Illinois, I'm going to Texas.
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Live Senate hearing on HB0815 and HB1263 which intend to ban all semi automatic firearms and pump shotguns as well as introduce numerous laws on gun ranges which will likely bankrupt them.
[link to www.ilga.gov]

Here are the bills:
[link to www.ilga.gov]
[link to www.ilga.gov]

Bad times ahead.....not just for Illinois if these pass....
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We obviously have a gun control problem in this country. The whole rest of the world can see it, why can't we? Because we are blinded by our ADDICTION.

We have more and more shootings each year, more people being killed by guns that were bought and owned by people with good intentions.

You all like to bitch and moan and cry about them taking your guns, yet you offer not alternative solutions.

I think it would be nice if everyone could keep their guns, I have a coupley myself, left to me by my father. My brother is a collector and my uncle actually owns a gun store. But I do see a problem, if you don't you ARE BLIND or lying to yourself.

So what other solutions are there? Why not be productive and actually try to accomplish something in this thread, rather than crying and moaning and talking about how you will die to keep your guns.

One of my solutions would be to require all guns have locking mechanisms that take fingerprint analysis to unlock. Or something to that effect, maybe DNA. We have the technology. Yes this would make guns ubber expensive, but if it saves lives, and allows us to keep our guns, isn't it worth the extra cost to buy one?

Well that's my solution, w/o baning guns. Make good use of technology.

Does anyone else have any other ideas?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16923663


Your ideas are incredibly stupid. A gun needs to work when it is required. A fingerprint analysis will work, what, 90% of the time? What if I use my other hand?

DNA? You'd have to have a computer attached to the handgun. Many people far far smarter than you have tried and everytime they find that electronics + big shakes == broken electronics.

So, exactly how do YOU, mr. genius with no degree in any related field, plan to accomplish something PhD's in engineering can not?

Oh that's right, you'll sit on GLP accusing everyone else of being a "do nothing" because while they sit and make casual threats of keeping their arms, you throw around casual dipshit ideas that have been tried to death and failed every time.
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WILL NOT COMPLY!

We the people have the right to defend ourselves, f that right is infringed, then we have the right to organize as a militia to ensure a FREE STATE!

NON-NEGOTIABLE! PERIOD!!

You'll get mine bullets first!
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At 2850 feet per second!
I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already!

Please ignore the German flag, I am an American.

Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick.
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So if you want to play with an assault rifle join the army, national guard or police force if you can pass the psychological tests. Otherwise, you can still hunt and protect your home with standard rifles, shotguns and pistols and practice shooting in urban and suburban environments in a registered range.

If the country gets taken over by foreigners bent on land redistribution, get a lathe, some machine tools and a box of fireworks. But most importantly keep an eye on who owns the country's arms manufacturers, and what they do in times of internal strife.

The more people you have the more social rejects you'll have going on shooting sprees. Time marches on. The planet is filling up quick.

You'll be fine as long as you're in the right.
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Pure evil!!!!!
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Can you imagine what the response will be from the Republic of Texas if Illinois passes this? I see it growing by Oklahoma and Louisiana
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House Bill 815

An Act amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, further providing for the offense of sexual abuse of children; and providing for the offense of transmission of sexually explicit images by minor.
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It is not BS - it is all too real. If you would read/reasearch futher you would see that they hollowed out that existing bill and tacked on the fire arms restrictions as amendments. It's on!
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The gun prohibitionists in the Illinois Senate are using existing House Bill 815 and House Bill 1263 as their vehicle to license shooting ranges, ban so-called assault weapons, ban new standard capacity magazines, and require registration and fees for grandfathered magazines. Both bills are the subject of hearings currently on-going by the Illinois Senate Public Health Committee.

HB 815 originally dealt with updating a nuclear safety law while HB 1263 deals with sexual offenders.

HB 815 has two amendments. The first, Senate Floor Amendment No. 001 deals with licensing shooting ranges and "large capacity ammunition feeding devices." It was introduced by Sen. Dan Kotowski (D-Chicago). The text of the amendment can be found here.

The second amendment to HB 815, Senate Floor Amendment No. 002, requires the registration of grandfathered magazines with the Illinois State Police and the payment of a $5 per magazine fee. It was also introduced by Sen. Dan Kotowski. The full text of this amendment can be found here.

HB 1263 has two amendments and both were submitted by Sen. Antonio Munoz (D-Chicago). Senate Floor Amendment No. 005 contains another range licensing bill and, more importantly, the assault weapons (sic) ban. .50 BMG firearms are also banned. The text of this amendment can be found here.

The second amendment to HB 1263, Senate Floor Amendment No. 006, deals with the existing so-called assault weapons. It requires their registration and the payment of a $10 fee per rifle to the Illinois State Police. .50 firearms will require a $15 per firearm fee along with their registration. The text of this amendment can be found here.

UPDATE: The Senate Public Health Committee who's chair and vice-chair just so happen to be Chicago Democrats have reported two of the amendments out of committee with a "do adopt" recommendation. They are Senate Floor Amendment No. 001 to HB 815 and Senate Floor Amendment No. 005 to HB 1263.

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they have no claim on your natural rights.

i stand with the lawful gun owners all day, everyday.
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So if you want to play with an assault rifle join the army, national guard or police force if you can pass the psychological tests. Otherwise, you can still hunt and protect your home with standard rifles, shotguns and pistols and practice shooting in urban and suburban environments in a registered range.

If the country gets taken over by foreigners bent on land redistribution, get a lathe, some machine tools and a box of fireworks. But most importantly keep an eye on who owns the country's arms manufacturers, and what they do in times of internal strife.

The more people you have the more social rejects you'll have going on shooting sprees. Time marches on. The planet is filling up quick.

You'll be fine as long as you're in the right.
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Why don't you suck my cock, you traitorous piece of dog shit?

Get the fuck out of the United States if you don't like their laws, eh? Come live in France where the cowards congregate, eh?
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We obviously have a gun control problem in this country. The whole rest of the world can see it, why can't we? Because we are blinded by our ADDICTION.

We have more and more shootings each year, more people being killed by guns that were bought and owned by people with good intentions.

You all like to bitch and moan and cry about them taking your guns, yet you offer not alternative solutions.

I think it would be nice if everyone could keep their guns, I have a coupley myself, left to me by my father. My brother is a collector and my uncle actually owns a gun store. But I do see a problem, if you don't you ARE BLIND or lying to yourself.

So what other solutions are there? Why not be productive and actually try to accomplish something in this thread, rather than crying and moaning and talking about how you will die to keep your guns.

One of my solutions would be to require all guns have locking mechanisms that take fingerprint analysis to unlock. Or something to that effect, maybe DNA. We have the technology. Yes this would make guns ubber expensive, but if it saves lives, and allows us to keep our guns, isn't it worth the extra cost to buy one?

Well that's my solution, w/o baning guns. Make good use of technology.

Does anyone else have any other ideas?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16923663


Your ideas are incredibly stupid. A gun needs to work when it is required. A fingerprint analysis will work, what, 90% of the time? What if I use my other hand?

DNA? You'd have to have a computer attached to the handgun. Many people far far smarter than you have tried and everytime they find that electronics + big shakes == broken electronics.

So, exactly how do YOU, mr. genius with no degree in any related field, plan to accomplish something PhD's in engineering can not?

Oh that's right, you'll sit on GLP accusing everyone else of being a "do nothing" because while they sit and make casual threats of keeping their arms, you throw around casual dipshit ideas that have been tried to death and failed every time.
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At least I am trying to come up with a solution to this problem. All you are doing is complaining, and name-calling. Try being productive for a change, put your mind to work and let us know what you think might be a solution to the extremly high rate of gun violence in this country.. but then you probably don't even think there is a problem do you?
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So if you want to play with an assault rifle join the army, national guard or police force if you can pass the psychological tests. Otherwise, you can still hunt and protect your home with standard rifles, shotguns and pistols and practice shooting in urban and suburban environments in a registered range.

If the country gets taken over by foreigners bent on land redistribution, get a lathe, some machine tools and a box of fireworks. But most importantly keep an eye on who owns the country's arms manufacturers, and what they do in times of internal strife.

The more people you have the more social rejects you'll have going on shooting sprees. Time marches on. The planet is filling up quick.

You'll be fine as long as you're in the right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364318


Read the Bill:
[link to www.ilga.gov]

The ban is for the following:
1) rifles
2) pump action shutguns
3) semiauto handguns

3 (720 ILCS 5/24-1.9 new)
4 Sec. 24-1.9. Possession, delivery, sale, and purchase of
5 semi-automatic assault weapons, assault weapon attachments,
6 .50 caliber rifles, and .50 caliber cartridges.
7 (a) Definitions. In this Section:
8 (1) "Semi-automatic assault weapon" means:
9 (A) any of the firearms or types, replicas, or
10 duplicates in any caliber of the firearms, known as:

11 (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies
12 Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
13 (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries
14 UZI and Galil;
15 (iii) Beretta AR-70 (SC-70);
16 (iv) Colt AR-15;
17 (v) Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and
18 FNC;
19 (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
20 (vii) Steyr AUG;
21 (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9, and TEC-22;
22 and
23 (ix) any shotgun which contains its ammunition
24 in a revolving cylinder, such as (but not limited
1 to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
2 (B) a semi-automatic rifle or pump-action rifle
3 that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and
4 has any of the following:

5 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
6 (ii) a pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
7 (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or
8 partially or completely encircles the barrel, and
9 that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with
10 the non-trigger hand without being burned;
11 (C) a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to
12 accept a detachable magazine and has any of the
13 following:

14 (i) a folding, telescoping, or thumbhole
15 stock;
16 (ii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially
17 or completely encircles the barrel, and that
18 permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the
19 non-trigger hand without being burned;
20 (iii) an ammunition magazine that attaches to
21 the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
22 (iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more
23 when the pistol is unloaded; or
24 (v) a semi-automatic version of an automatic
25 firearm;
26 (C-1) a semi-automatic rifle or pistol with a fixed
1 magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10
2 rounds of ammunition;
3 (C-2) a semi-automatic rifle or a pistol with the
4 capacity to accept a detachable magazine
, a muzzle
5 brake, or muzzle compensator;
6 (D) a semi-automatic shotgun that has any of the
7 following:

8 (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
9 (ii) a pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
10 (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5
11 rounds; or
12 (iv) an ability to accept a detachable
13 magazine.
14 "Semi-automatic assault weapon" does not
15 include:
16 (A) any firearm that:
17 (i) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever,
18 or slide action;
19 (ii) is an unserviceable firearm or has been
20 made permanently inoperable, as defined by 27
21 C.F.R. 478.11;
22 (iii) is an antique firearm; or
23 (iv) is a rifle with a fixed tubular magazine
24 located under the barrel that is only capable of
25 holding rounds of ammunition placed end to end;
26 (B) any air rifle as defined in Section 24.8-0.1 of
1 this Code.

Also check out Illinois State Rifle Association:
[link to www.isra.org]
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Illinois is having a problem.

They want to ban guns, their crime exceeded 500 last year, and I just read a Denny's kicked out cops with guns (because customers complained?)

That would be a good test of their plan.

Go ahead and confiscate all guns, especially in Chicago, so decent people are defenseless and criminals have a field day. You think 25-50 or so cops can stop hundreds of criminals?

Go ahead Illinois, I'm going to Texas.
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Don't forget that Illinois (Chicago) lowered the score for the police test because not enough non-white men were smart enough to pass.
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We obviously have a gun control problem in this country. The whole rest of the world can see it, why can't we? Because we are blinded by our ADDICTION.

We have more and more shootings each year, more people being killed by guns that were bought and owned by people with good intentions.

You all like to bitch and moan and cry about them taking your guns, yet you offer not alternative solutions.

I think it would be nice if everyone could keep their guns, I have a coupley myself, left to me by my father. My brother is a collector and my uncle actually owns a gun store. But I do see a problem, if you don't you ARE BLIND or lying to yourself.

So what other solutions are there? Why not be productive and actually try to accomplish something in this thread, rather than crying and moaning and talking about how you will die to keep your guns.

One of my solutions would be to require all guns have locking mechanisms that take fingerprint analysis to unlock. Or something to that effect, maybe DNA. We have the technology. Yes this would make guns ubber expensive, but if it saves lives, and allows us to keep our guns, isn't it worth the extra cost to buy one?

Well that's my solution, w/o baning guns. Make good use of technology.

Does anyone else have any other ideas?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16923663


Your facts are not facts.

In fact, you managed to spew nothing but drivel you probably heard off of the news.

Why don't you look up the facts and then come in here with something intelligent to say, backed by say...FBI findings, ATF Statistics, and then we'll discuss what you have to say.

Otherwise take the money you are being paid to spill your lies and misinformation and cram it up your ass.

Nothing you said is truthful or real.


Your solultions are not practical either and require more tax dollars and bigger government we can ill afford.
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Illinois legislators who were voted out of office are in the process of hurrying a bill through the state wsentate that will

BAN 80% of ALL GUNS.... SHUT DOWN GUN RANGES * LIMIT AMMO
[link to offgridsurvival.com]
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what color uses "GUN RANGES"?
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Illinois legislators who were voted out of office are in the process of hurrying a bill through the state wsentate that will

BAN 80% of ALL GUNS.... SHUT DOWN GUN RANGES * LIMIT AMMO
[link to offgridsurvival.com]
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what color uses "GUN RANGES"?
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Not sure what you mean? Here in Texas, there are several shades of flesh that use ranges.
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We obviously have a gun control problem in this country. The whole rest of the world can see it, why can't we? Because we are blinded by our ADDICTION.

We have more and more shootings each year, more people being killed by guns that were bought and owned by people with good intentions.

You all like to bitch and moan and cry about them taking your guns, yet you offer not alternative solutions.

I think it would be nice if everyone could keep their guns, I have a coupley myself, left to me by my father. My brother is a collector and my uncle actually owns a gun store. But I do see a problem, if you don't you ARE BLIND or lying to yourself.

So what other solutions are there? Why not be productive and actually try to accomplish something in this thread, rather than crying and moaning and talking about how you will die to keep your guns.

One of my solutions would be to require all guns have locking mechanisms that take fingerprint analysis to unlock. Or something to that effect, maybe DNA. We have the technology. Yes this would make guns ubber expensive, but if it saves lives, and allows us to keep our guns, isn't it worth the extra cost to buy one?

Well that's my solution, w/o baning guns. Make good use of technology.

Does anyone else have any other ideas?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16923663


Your ideas are incredibly stupid. A gun needs to work when it is required. A fingerprint analysis will work, what, 90% of the time? What if I use my other hand?

DNA? You'd have to have a computer attached to the handgun. Many people far far smarter than you have tried and everytime they find that electronics + big shakes == broken electronics.

So, exactly how do YOU, mr. genius with no degree in any related field, plan to accomplish something PhD's in engineering can not?

Oh that's right, you'll sit on GLP accusing everyone else of being a "do nothing" because while they sit and make casual threats of keeping their arms, you throw around casual dipshit ideas that have been tried to death and failed every time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30981074


At least I am trying to come up with a solution to this problem. All you are doing is complaining, and name-calling. Try being productive for a change, put your mind to work and let us know what you think might be a solution to the extremly high rate of gun violence in this country.. but then you probably don't even think there is a problem do you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16923663


No you are not trying to come up with a solution. You are trying a little act of mind control to try and get people to accept there is a "problem" when the only "problem" is gang banging you know what's who all own their guns illegally.

Here's an idea: Go door to door in the projects of Chicago and confiscate all illegal guns.

There's your problem, solution... no do you like the reaction?
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Chicago is filled with armed thugs. This will be a test site.
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You think they are going to give them up?
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We obviously have a gun control problem in this country. The whole rest of the world can see it, why can't we? Because we are blinded by our ADDICTION.

We have more and more shootings each year, more people being killed by guns that were bought and owned by people with good intentions.

You all like to bitch and moan and cry about them taking your guns, yet you offer not alternative solutions.

I think it would be nice if everyone could keep their guns, I have a coupley myself, left to me by my father. My brother is a collector and my uncle actually owns a gun store. But I do see a problem, if you don't you ARE BLIND or lying to yourself.

So what other solutions are there? Why not be productive and actually try to accomplish something in this thread, rather than crying and moaning and talking about how you will die to keep your guns.

One of my solutions would be to require all guns have locking mechanisms that take fingerprint analysis to unlock. Or something to that effect, maybe DNA. We have the technology. Yes this would make guns ubber expensive, but if it saves lives, and allows us to keep our guns, isn't it worth the extra cost to buy one?

Well that's my solution, w/o baning guns. Make good use of technology.

Does anyone else have any other ideas?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16923663


Your facts are not facts.

In fact, you managed to spew nothing but drivel you probably heard off of the news.

Why don't you look up the facts and then come in here with something intelligent to say, backed by say...FBI findings, ATF Statistics, and then we'll discuss what you have to say.

Otherwise take the money you are being paid to spill your lies and misinformation and cram it up your ass.

Nothing you said is truthful or real.


Your solultions are not practical either and require more tax dollars and bigger government we can ill afford.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


I'm sorry but where in my quoted text did I give any facts or figures? You are obviously a shill who did not read my post at all.. Your only purpose is to make anyone who opposes your point of view appear to be a lyer when your are probably the one spreading lies and misinfo.
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BAN 80% of ALL GUNS.... SHUT DOWN GUN RANGES * LIMIT AMMO
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what color uses "GUN RANGES"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22453342


Not sure what you mean? Here in Texas, there are several shades of flesh that use ranges.
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Only legal gun owners use gun ranges. In Chicago where the vast majority of illegal guns reside, and nearly no legal guns exist, it takes 4-5 of them 30 rounds a piece to attempt to hit somebody sitting on their porch across the street.

They inevitably end up shooting a bunch of bystanders (generally kids under the age of 10 who are inexplicably out on the street at midnight, 1am, etc).

Why not just confiscate all their guns since they are already illegal as it stands?

Go door to door in the Chicago projects and all Section 8 rentals and pick up all the illegal guns. LOL.
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Chicago is filled with armed thugs. This will be a test site.
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You think they are going to give them up?
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Those guns are not registered and therefore there will be no attempt to confiscate them. They want those people to have guns. They just don't want to the law abiding citizen capable of rational thought or reading, understanding and upholding the constitution to have guns.
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We obviously have a gun control problem in this country. The whole rest of the world can see it, why can't we? Because we are blinded by our ADDICTION.

We have more and more shootings each year, more people being killed by guns that were bought and owned by people with good intentions.

You all like to bitch and moan and cry about them taking your guns, yet you offer not alternative solutions.

I think it would be nice if everyone could keep their guns, I have a coupley myself, left to me by my father. My brother is a collector and my uncle actually owns a gun store. But I do see a problem, if you don't you ARE BLIND or lying to yourself.

So what other solutions are there? Why not be productive and actually try to accomplish something in this thread, rather than crying and moaning and talking about how you will die to keep your guns.

One of my solutions would be to require all guns have locking mechanisms that take fingerprint analysis to unlock. Or something to that effect, maybe DNA. We have the technology. Yes this would make guns ubber expensive, but if it saves lives, and allows us to keep our guns, isn't it worth the extra cost to buy one?

Well that's my solution, w/o baning guns. Make good use of technology.

Does anyone else have any other ideas?
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Your ideas are incredibly stupid. A gun needs to work when it is required. A fingerprint analysis will work, what, 90% of the time? What if I use my other hand?

DNA? You'd have to have a computer attached to the handgun. Many people far far smarter than you have tried and everytime they find that electronics + big shakes == broken electronics.

So, exactly how do YOU, mr. genius with no degree in any related field, plan to accomplish something PhD's in engineering can not?

Oh that's right, you'll sit on GLP accusing everyone else of being a "do nothing" because while they sit and make casual threats of keeping their arms, you throw around casual dipshit ideas that have been tried to death and failed every time.
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At least I am trying to come up with a solution to this problem. All you are doing is complaining, and name-calling. Try being productive for a change, put your mind to work and let us know what you think might be a solution to the extremly high rate of gun violence in this country.. but then you probably don't even think there is a problem do you?
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No you are not trying to come up with a solution. You are trying a little act of mind control to try and get people to accept there is a "problem" when the only "problem" is gang banging you know what's who all own their guns illegally.

Here's an idea: Go door to door in the projects of Chicago and confiscate all illegal guns.

There's your problem, solution... no do you like the reaction?
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Thank you for actually contributing your idea for a possible solution. I agree, we do need all illegal guns confiscated, not just from the projects though.

I do not need mind control, LMAO, to make my point. So you do admit we have a problem but you think it is limited to low-income neighborhoods, "projects". Really?



I hear you about my other ideas, they might be pretty hard to implement but at least I'm trying.

Time for another solution tech idea of mine.
What if all gun owners have to have some sort of device that allows the gun to fire, a sort of key? Maybe this key can be implanted in them so that it cannot be stolen? Then the gun will always work when within one foot of the key, but if stolen or taken away from the key, it will not work.

Yes I know technology fails and is not 100% but I'm just brain-storming here.. sorry if you don't like it.
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are all gonna wind up in Texas or AZ or TN? see ya there
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We obviously have a gun control problem in this country. The whole rest of the world can see it, why can't we? Because we are blinded by our ADDICTION.

We have more and more shootings each year, more people being killed by guns that were bought and owned by people with good intentions.

You all like to bitch and moan and cry about them taking your guns, yet you offer not alternative solutions.

I think it would be nice if everyone could keep their guns, I have a coupley myself, left to me by my father. My brother is a collector and my uncle actually owns a gun store. But I do see a problem, if you don't you ARE BLIND or lying to yourself.

So what other solutions are there? Why not be productive and actually try to accomplish something in this thread, rather than crying and moaning and talking about how you will die to keep your guns.

One of my solutions would be to require all guns have locking mechanisms that take fingerprint analysis to unlock. Or something to that effect, maybe DNA. We have the technology. Yes this would make guns ubber expensive, but if it saves lives, and allows us to keep our guns, isn't it worth the extra cost to buy one?

Well that's my solution, w/o baning guns. Make good use of technology.

Does anyone else have any other ideas?
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The Swiss have a pretty reasonable solution.
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Hard labor for gun crimes..
No lazy-ass criminal would risk having to actually work.
Profit goes to pay for incarceration and victim compensation.

Give each one a bleeding-heart lib to help with that...
Side-by-side..
Making the world a better place...

Leave the rest of us alone.

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