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I, like most GLP'ers, don't really believe in coincidences, so I'll tell this story and you draw your own conclusions.

Back in late November near Thanksgiving, my wife, who is a school teacher, was strongly urged by her employer to receive the influenza vaccine. Thinking as a protective mother would, she took our 3 year old with her to also get a dose, since he is in a daycare where diseases run rampant. I would have suggested otherwise to her, however I found out too late that both of them had gotten it. She suggested that I also receive the shot, however I declined due to information that I have read on this site, in scientific studies, and even on the medical pamphlet accompanying the flu shot.

The following week, my son came down with a low-grade fever. It lasted one day, but was accompanied by a cough, an inflamed throat, and swollen lymph nodes that is still persistent. The doctor has claimed that he is experiencing a bacterial infection and he is on his second run of antibiotics. My wife also came down with a fever the second week in December, which ran from 101 - 103, and persisted an entire week. She went to the doctor, who told her that she had the "flu shot flu", meaning that she had contracted the flu; however the vaccine shot gave some level of protection from it, so she would not experience full blown influenza. From this initial illness, from which she was left completely wiped out, coughing, feverish, and lacking appetite - she still has not recovered. She developed a sinus infection for which she is on her second run of antibiotics for.

I, the only one in the household who did not get the flu shot, have yet to experience any ill effects. 99/100 times that anything comes into the home from my child or wife comes to me as well. Except this time it has not. Not believing in coincidences, I attribute their illnesses solely to that shot they received. Now, I cant say how it did, whether they got sick directly from its contents, or if it weakened their immune systems to where they got another type of disorder, I cannot say. I just wanted to warn everyone out there not to get this shot.. PLEASE.
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I, like most GLP'ers, don't really believe in coincidences, so I'll tell this story and you draw your own conclusions.

Back in late November near Thanksgiving, my wife, who is a school teacher, was strongly urged by her employer to receive the influenza vaccine. Thinking as a protective mother would, she took our 3 year old with her to also get a dose, since he is in a daycare where diseases run rampant. I would have suggested otherwise to her, however I found out too late that both of them had gotten it. She suggested that I also receive the shot, however I declined due to information that I have read on this site, in scientific studies, and even on the medical pamphlet accompanying the flu shot.

The following week, my son came down with a low-grade fever. It lasted one day, but was accompanied by a cough, an inflamed throat, and swollen lymph nodes that is still persistent. The doctor has claimed that he is experiencing a bacterial infection and he is on his second run of antibiotics. My wife also came down with a fever the second week in December, which ran from 101 - 103, and persisted an entire week. She went to the doctor, who told her that she had the "flu shot flu", meaning that she had contracted the flu; however the vaccine shot gave some level of protection from it, so she would not experience full blown influenza. From this initial illness, from which she was left completely wiped out, coughing, feverish, and lacking appetite - she still has not recovered. She developed a sinus infection for which she is on her second run of antibiotics for.

I, the only one in the household who did not get the flu shot, have yet to experience any ill effects. 99/100 times that anything comes into the home from my child or wife comes to me as well. Except this time it has not. Not believing in coincidences, I attribute their illnesses solely to that shot they received. Now, I cant say how it did, whether they got sick directly from its contents, or if it weakened their immune systems to where they got another type of disorder, I cannot say. I just wanted to warn everyone out there not to get this shot.. PLEASE.
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Has anyone had similar experiences?
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OP you are giving your warning to mostly a bunch of morons.I'm sorry for what's going on with your family but trying to tell people the truth is just wasting your breath.....
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Yes even with the evidence everywhere that vaccines are poison and practically have no effect on stopping the flu etc, the sheeple are convinced otherwise by their TV sets and news outlets. My little girl became autistic before I did the research and realized the truth. Be happy you are only having temporary bad reaction and for gods sake do some research on your own before allowing yourself and those you love to be poisoned by TPTB. For my daughter, our lack of informed decision making is now a life sentence that will haunt my wife and I the rest of our days. The evidence isn't here and there, it's everywhere. Wake up people.......
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the truth about Vaccinations can be found here:

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

here's a little study as well:

"Repeated immunization with antigen causes systemic autoimmunity in mice otherwise not prone to spontaneous autoimmune diseases. Overstimulation of CD4+ T cells led to the development of autoantibody-inducing CD4+ T (aiCD4+ T) cell which had undergone T cell receptor (TCR) revision and was capable of inducing autoantibodies. The aiCD4+ T cell was induced by de novo TCR revision but not by cross-reaction, and subsequently overstimulated CD8+ T cells, driving them to become antigen-specific cytotoxic T lymphocytes (CTL). These CTLs could be further matured by antigen cross-presentation, after which they caused autoimmune tissue injury akin to systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE).

Conclusions/Significance

Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host's immune ‘system’ by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system's self-organized criticality."

[link to www.plosone.org]

and a final quote:

"Sick people make for a healthy hospital cash flow. Vaccinations make you generally sicker and often offer very poor "protection" at best. Worse yet, fully vaccinated boys are 112% more likely to have autism than un-vaccinated. Vaccinated boys are 120% more likely to have asthma and 279% more likely to have ADHD than unvaccinated boys. People at 55 years of age who receive the flu vaccine each year for 5 years in a row increase their risk of developing Alzheimer's disease a whopping 1,000%! ~ Craig Stellpflug"
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


[link to treeofone.wordpress.com]
[link to vaccinefails.wordpress.com]
[link to www.resistance2010.com]
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It is a known medical fact that immunizations contain thermisol and mercury. I work in the health field and have seen numerous cases where a child is over vaccinated and the end result leads to Autism or death.

Look back 50 yrs ago. Most elderly people started having dementia in their late 70's. Look now - they now have a new name ALZHEIMERS! It is starting to effect people in their 50's - WHY??? Flu Shots, Pneumonia Shots, Hepatitus Shots, Chicken Pox Shots, etc... all contain Thermisol and Mercury.

Do not take a vaccine if you are older than 18 unless medically necessary.

Everything npw contains anti-bacterial in it...soap, shampoo, dishwashing products, laundry products, etc..... We have no immunity like we did 30+ years ago.

Why can South Americans and Mexico drink their water and we cannot??? Because they have not been exposed to the vaccines that debilatate the immune system.
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I can assure you, this story is not BS, my friend. Go shill off elsewhere.
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All I can say is that in the last two years that I have not had the flu shot, I have also not had the flu.
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I, like most GLP'ers, don't really believe in coincidences, so I'll tell this story and you draw your own conclusions.

Back in late November near Thanksgiving, my wife, who is a school teacher, was strongly urged by her employer to receive the influenza vaccine. Thinking as a protective mother would, she took our 3 year old with her to also get a dose, since he is in a daycare where diseases run rampant. I would have suggested otherwise to her, however I found out too late that both of them had gotten it. She suggested that I also receive the shot, however I declined due to information that I have read on this site, in scientific studies, and even on the medical pamphlet accompanying the flu shot.

The following week, my son came down with a low-grade fever. It lasted one day, but was accompanied by a cough, an inflamed throat, and swollen lymph nodes that is still persistent. The doctor has claimed that he is experiencing a bacterial infection and he is on his second run of antibiotics. My wife also came down with a fever the second week in December, which ran from 101 - 103, and persisted an entire week. She went to the doctor, who told her that she had the "flu shot flu", meaning that she had contracted the flu; however the vaccine shot gave some level of protection from it, so she would not experience full blown influenza. From this initial illness, from which she was left completely wiped out, coughing, feverish, and lacking appetite - she still has not recovered. She developed a sinus infection for which she is on her second run of antibiotics for.

I, the only one in the household who did not get the flu shot, have yet to experience any ill effects. 99/100 times that anything comes into the home from my child or wife comes to me as well. Except this time it has not. Not believing in coincidences, I attribute their illnesses solely to that shot they received. Now, I cant say how it did, whether they got sick directly from its contents, or if it weakened their immune systems to where they got another type of disorder, I cannot say. I just wanted to warn everyone out there not to get this shot.. PLEASE.
 Quoting: TruthMonger 5183070


Has anyone had similar experiences?
 Quoting: TruthMonger 5183070


Not with this particular one, but I did relent and several years ago during the h1n1 panic had my 4 year old get it. 3 hours later she had a pain in her eye and vomiting. Later dx with migraines which she has about 6x a year now. Not one before the shot! Never again, she and I are paying the price.
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Yes even with the evidence everywhere that vaccines are poison and practically have no effect on stopping the flu etc, the sheeple are convinced otherwise by their TV sets and news outlets. My little girl became autistic before I did the research and realized the truth. Be happy you are only having temporary bad reaction and for gods sake do some research on your own before allowing yourself and those you love to be poisoned by TPTB. For my daughter, our lack of informed decision making is now a life sentence that will haunt my wife and I the rest of our days. The evidence isn't here and there, it's everywhere. Wake up people.......
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I have done the research and this will be the last time, believe me. I found out too late this year of her intentions, it was spur of the moment / free time popped up kinda thing.
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When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


[link to treeofone.wordpress.com]
[link to vaccinefails.wordpress.com]
[link to www.resistance2010.com]
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And the congress just added a tax on flu vaccines yesterday...another good reason to reject them!!!
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All I can say is that in the last two years that I have not had the flu shot, I have also not had the flu.
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Same with me, but I live quite a reclusive life.

And when you go to the doctor for ANYTHING else, it's "have you had a flu shot?"

And people who dont immunize are labeled 'irresponsible'

so much for the right to use your own discretion
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5 stars and a bump
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Thanks Silvanus!
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I know a woman who got the flu shot for her and her son, and they were both horribly ill with the flu after it. I was in contact with her but I never got ill. They are still not doing so well.
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I, like most GLP'ers, don't really believe in coincidences, so I'll tell this story and you draw your own conclusions.

Back in late November near Thanksgiving, my wife, who is a school teacher, was strongly urged by her employer to receive the influenza vaccine. Thinking as a protective mother would, she took our 3 year old with her to also get a dose, since he is in a daycare where diseases run rampant. I would have suggested otherwise to her, however I found out too late that both of them had gotten it. She suggested that I also receive the shot, however I declined due to information that I have read on this site, in scientific studies, and even on the medical pamphlet accompanying the flu shot.

The following week, my son came down with a low-grade fever. It lasted one day, but was accompanied by a cough, an inflamed throat, and swollen lymph nodes that is still persistent. The doctor has claimed that he is experiencing a bacterial infection and he is on his second run of antibiotics. My wife also came down with a fever the second week in December, which ran from 101 - 103, and persisted an entire week. She went to the doctor, who told her that she had the "flu shot flu", meaning that she had contracted the flu; however the vaccine shot gave some level of protection from it, so she would not experience full blown influenza. From this initial illness, from which she was left completely wiped out, coughing, feverish, and lacking appetite - she still has not recovered. She developed a sinus infection for which she is on her second run of antibiotics for.

I, the only one in the household who did not get the flu shot, have yet to experience any ill effects. 99/100 times that anything comes into the home from my child or wife comes to me as well. Except this time it has not. Not believing in coincidences, I attribute their illnesses solely to that shot they received. Now, I cant say how it did, whether they got sick directly from its contents, or if it weakened their immune systems to where they got another type of disorder, I cannot say. I just wanted to warn everyone out there not to get this shot.. PLEASE.
 Quoting: TruthMonger 5183070


Has anyone had similar experiences?
 Quoting: TruthMonger 5183070


Not with this particular one, but I did relent and several years ago during the h1n1 panic had my 4 year old get it. 3 hours later she had a pain in her eye and vomiting. Later dx with migraines which she has about 6x a year now. Not one before the shot! Never again, she and I are paying the price.
 Quoting: PENG


I'm very sorry to hear of your struggle PENG. This is an outrage to say the least.
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PLEASE - never take a vaccination shot unless your immune system is so low that you are in danger. Our bodies needs an occasional cold or flu to build up antibodies.

If you have children, find a doctor who does only the basic immunizations necessary for them to go to school. There are doctors who are out there who agree that the basic MMR, Polio, TB are the only one's needed and at very long intervals in between shots.

Also, be aware of TAMIFLU! You see it advertised constantly on TV. Only now are they warning against giving this medicince to children under 2 yrs of age.

A close friend of mine along with her family came down with the flu shortly after her giving birth to her third child 5 years ago. The unkowing Dr. treated them all with Tamiflu along with newborn.

Sadly, her daughter who is now 6 yrs old is disabled mentally due to this medicine.

Stay informed, take your regular once a day multi-vitamin and don't be afraid of the regular cold. It builds up your immunity. If prescribed an antibiotic - take as prescribed and FINISH the whole prescription.
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All I can say is that in the last two years that I have not had the flu shot, I have also not had the flu.
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Agreed. Instead, I take specific herbs to boost my immune system....Oil of Oregano, Moringa.

I read a story today about a group of nurses who refused to get a flu shot, and were summarily FIRED from the hospital where they worked. Can't remember the name of the hospital.
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PLEASE - never take a vaccination shot unless your immune system is so low that you are in danger. Our bodies needs an occasional cold or flu to build up antibodies.

If you have children, find a doctor who does only the basic immunizations necessary for them to go to school. There are doctors who are out there who agree that the basic MMR, Polio, TB are the only one's needed and at very long intervals in between shots.

Also, be aware of TAMIFLU! You see it advertised constantly on TV. Only now are they warning against giving this medicince to children under 2 yrs of age.

A close friend of mine along with her family came down with the flu shortly after her giving birth to her third child 5 years ago. The unkowing Dr. treated them all with Tamiflu along with newborn.

Sadly, her daughter who is now 6 yrs old is disabled mentally due to this medicine.

Stay informed, take your regular once a day multi-vitamin and don't be afraid of the regular cold. It builds up your immunity. If prescribed an antibiotic - take as prescribed and FINISH the whole prescription.
 Quoting: The Quiet One


Good advice. I would also add supplementing with probiotics while taking antibiotics. Vitamin D supplemntation if suspecting that you could be in danger of becoming sick.
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I became deathly ill in 1984 from a flu shot. I went from a healthy 120 lb. woman to 96 lbs. Now, I believe I had Guillen-Barre (not well known at that time). I was so sick I broke a rib coughing.

Was sent to a rheumatologist who discovered I had a +ANA but didn't know what was wrong. After being sick for about 6 months and trying to piece together what the hell was killing me I remembered having the flu shot... told my family Dr. who gave me a ton of steroids and I recovered.

I've had other bad immunological and nerve related problems ever since and I credit that effing flu shot. I am also Rh- which I believe is a factor as I had also been given 2 Rhogam shots.

This is what caused the soldiers in the Iraq war to get sick, I am sure. Some people have more sensitive nervous systems and some nervous systems are fragile when they are being formed and susceptible.

When people tell me they had a flu shot, I think it's a death sentence. Don't do it! Especially don't give it to kids!!!!!!!!

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I think when you call people sheeple it negates the point of your post. If you insult people in the making of your point you lose.

I received the flu shot 3 years in a row as a kid and got sick the next week every time.

I have not had a shot since and that is one of the reasons and I also in addition to maybe being allergic to the egg base of the vaccine have found out that most medications are too strong for me. We have a one shot for all system that does not take into consideration the tolerance of everyone....of course everyone is the same?

I am under pressure to get the flu shot because I am taking care of a person with no immune system due to chemo right now. I have just been given enough time away from him to take the shot and get over being sick if it makes me sick so being sick from the shot won't make me stay away from him.

It kills me when I sit next to him and he says to everyone, everybody around me has had their flu shot. He didn't ask me. I didn't tell.

Now I have a break, enough time to get sick from the shot and recover before I go back.

I do cave to the opinions of my family. Yep, wish me luck.

Nevermind the run on sentences.....k?

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I think I will get it today and then there is the possibility that I get sick on the planes but it shouldn't get me for a week ya? Allergic, needs maybe half a shot getting on the plane. Who is that epidemic guy? He hasn't posted lately. The planes are one of his worst case scenarios. :) but it is safe, right?

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OP you are giving your warning to mostly a bunch of morons.I'm sorry for what's going on with your family but trying to tell people the truth is just wasting your breath.....
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OP you are giving your warning to mostly a bunch of morons.I'm sorry for what's going on with your family but trying to tell people the truth is just wasting your breath.....
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The fuck do I care? I'm 95 and should have been put to sleep years ago. I would have asked the vet to do it for me, but I'm sure the bastard would have called the police. Then I would have been put in a home for fuckin mental people.

"I'm gonna live until I die."

Jesus fuckin Christ, I've got no fuckin choice have I?
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Also see this thread about Tamiflu. I did some research after reading it. Bad news. And yet our sainted FDA, ever watchful of our health and welfare, just approved it for use in babies less than one year of age, whose immune systems aren't even fully developed yet. If a parent doesn't know about this, and the doctor recommends it and says it is FDA approved...I shudder to think.

FDA Approves Neurotoxic Flu Drug For Infants Less Than One
Thread: FDA Approves Neurotoxic Flu Drug For Infants Less Than One

PLEASE - never take a vaccination shot unless your immune system is so low that you are in danger. Our bodies needs an occasional cold or flu to build up antibodies.

If you have children, find a doctor who does only the basic immunizations necessary for them to go to school. There are doctors who are out there who agree that the basic MMR, Polio, TB are the only one's needed and at very long intervals in between shots.

Also, be aware of TAMIFLU! You see it advertised constantly on TV. Only now are they warning against giving this medicince to children under 2 yrs of age.

A close friend of mine along with her family came down with the flu shortly after her giving birth to her third child 5 years ago. The unkowing Dr. treated them all with Tamiflu along with newborn.

Sadly, her daughter who is now 6 yrs old is disabled mentally due to this medicine.

Stay informed, take your regular once a day multi-vitamin and don't be afraid of the regular cold. It builds up your immunity. If prescribed an antibiotic - take as prescribed and FINISH the whole prescription.
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OP we did not receive the flu shot and ended up the same as your family members, sick with a bacterial infection/sinus and a virus. Many people around here with or without the flu shot have both. I must add that as with last year the ones who did receive the flu shot actually ended up with tougher to take symptoms.
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I think when you call people sheeple it negates the point of your post. If you insult people in the making of your point you lose.

I received the flu shot 3 years in a row as a kid and got sick the next week every time.

I have not had a shot since and that is one of the reasons and I also in addition to maybe being allergic to the egg base of the vaccine have found out that most medications are too strong for me. We have a one shot for all system that does not take into consideration the tolerance of everyone....of course everyone is the same?

I am under pressure to get the flu shot because I am taking care of a person with no immune system due to chemo right now. I have just been given enough time away from him to take the shot and get over being sick if it makes me sick so being sick from the shot won't make me stay away from him.

It kills me when I sit next to him and he says to everyone, everybody around me has had their flu shot. He didn't ask me. I didn't tell.

Now I have a break, enough time to get sick from the shot and recover before I go back.

I do cave to the opinions of my family. Yep, wish me luck.

Nevermind the run on sentences.....k?
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Why don't you play some Russian roulette instead?

"Most medications are too strong for me," you say.

... And now, you're going to deliberately make yourself sick, and you think you can predict how long you will be sick, and how sick you will actually be.

Are you kidding us?

Are you suicidal, or what?

Self-destructive?

You must be the caregiver in your family; looking after someone on chemo says it all.

Look, lady, go ahead and mess up your life...

... Just this time.

... You'll have nobody to blame but yourself.

Caregivers
are often dysfuntional masochists who are afraid to live their own lives, so they become doormats for their family.

Have a nice day.


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VACCINE INGREDIENTS
MSG, antifreeze, formaldehyde, aluminum, glycerin, cadmium, sulfates, yeast proteins, antibiotics, acetone, neomycin,streptomycin, mercury, monkey kidney, dog kidney, chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg, calf serum, aborted fetal tissue, pig blood, horse blood, sheep blood, rabbit brain, guinea pig, cow hart, animal viruses, ect, ect.
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Re: THE FLU SHOT IS DANGEROUS! BEWARE AND AVOID!
VACCINE INGREDIENTS
MSG, antifreeze, formaldehyde, aluminum, glycerin, cadmium, sulfates, yeast proteins, antibiotics, acetone, neomycin,streptomycin, mercury, monkey kidney, dog kidney, chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg, calf serum, aborted fetal tissue, pig blood, horse blood, sheep blood, rabbit brain, guinea pig, cow hart, animal viruses, ect, ect.
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Yuck. Interesting info op thanks!

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