Fox News article: "We're now one step closer to America's COMING CIVIL WAR"

That says something....since you are probably one of the most prepared (on this site)

I can't fully agree. Americans like any other animal backed into a corner, will fight with everything they have to survive. The military will NOT kill Americans...Because THEY are Americans too. Enlisted folks take the Constitution more seriously then anybody anywhere...We can see this in the past election when the majority of donated monies went to the Ron Paul campaign.

The only real weapon the Gov't has is the domestic police forces. Police as a group, are some of the most unenlightened individuals you'll ever meet in this country. They are programmed robots who fear the loss of their jobs which takes care of their families...So they obey orders. American soldiers have a history of disobeying orders from superiors when morals are questioned.

I believe it was less than 5% of the population that drove England out in the Revolutionary War. We were facing better equipped men who were trained far better in warfare. You know what won us our freedom then...

Today will be no different. Drones can be hacked, internet cannot be shut off (communications helped Egypt), and we as a country are creative, crafty, and fucking nuts. The government wouldn't be going through gun control if it knew it could take us anyways...I have faith in my countrymen. There are a LOT of pissed off rednecks who'll die before giving up their arms. No country can take us...We could barely take Iraq and Afghanistan if at all..It took us 8 years and trillions of dollars to figure out we can't take over the world like we think we can.

If there is a civil war, mark my words China and Russia will help us. We are fine. Checks and balances my friend.

Side-note* - Our Gov't has never attacked a nuclear power. Saddam is a jerk to his people so we killed him...Gadhafi was a "jerk" to his people so we killed him...North Korea starves its' people but we keep sending them fucking rice!

Very well said.

You are absolutely right about our military would never kill Americans. Because most of the military are conservative good ol boys.

This was prophesied in 1899,

"In India, China, Russia, and the cities of America, thousands of men and women are dying of starvation. The monied men, because they have the power, control the market. They purchase at low rates all they can obtain, and then sell at greatly increased prices. This means starvation to the poorer classes, and will result in a civil war." Ms 114, 1899. (General manuscript, untitled, typed August 13, 1899.)

I do hope you two are correct!

I believe there are over 7 billion people on earth right now...those were the statistics I saw...I have no idea. Kind of irrelevant to your point, except I find it interesting. The statistics are that in the past 2,000 years 100 billion to 108 billion people have lived on earth.

Statisticians have calculated that there should be about 7 billion people on earth here right now, with population growth projected scientifically from the Biblical time of the flood--projecting the population growth from 8 people. It's mind boggling, but they have actually calculated this, accounting for the deaths in the wars and other catastrophies through the centuries. So had mankind been here for the millions of year which evolutionists believe in, the earth would have been seriously overpopulated years ago. Sorry, OP from deviating from topic.





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Lasereyes, if you want the statistics on the population growth since creation or since the flood, here you go


*Sigh* Okay.

Do you believe cavemen and dinosaurs existed?
Why doesn't god heal amputees?
Were all 8 people that survived the great flood 8 different races?

Hard questions....sure you want to do this?

That's what Britain was hoping for during the American revolution. Never mind the Civil War, etc.or rescuing Europe during WW1,2... or the Falklands, Iraq,Iran, Israel, etc. Sheesh.... bring it.

This really scares me also, I served in Bosnia and I DO know what modern Civil War is like. PRAY it does not happen here. I have seen horrors that still give me nightmares.

Military tech runs on power. Power is electricity.
Electricity only does two things. It runs through,
or can be switched. All tech is based on those two
things. There are only two sources of it, AC and DC.
There is generation and storage as it's two states.

It's vulnerable.
Even hardened, it's vulnerable.
I have news for you.
Americans are not the stupid couch potatoes
that Hollywood depicts.

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And this, above, is WHAT should start making everyone MORE THAN A LITTLE NERVOUS.

The fucks in control are going rogue.

You know, as long as we spend time bickering on our differences, the corporations will win. They foment this in the media every day.

Learn to get along. Learn skills. Help people regardless of what they believe.

A little more understanding, compassion, and helping genuinely and unselfishly. This builds friendship and respect.

What other people think is really none of my business.

The real issue is freedom, otherwise we're slaves.

It's why I have spent so much time and energy trying to teach a handful of people old frontier skills or First People skills or tribal skills that come from ancient Celts.

Real sprituality about Jesus isn't wanted by most people. They want help and real friendship or to be left alone. If I can do that, then maybe if I'm close to them, and a good friend, they may ask me why I'm being altruistic. Then I have a chance to listen to their beliefs and share mine.

Don't get the cart before the horse.

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Lasereyes, if you want the statistics on the population growth since creation or since the flood, here you go


*Sigh* Okay.

Do you believe cavemen and dinosaurs existed?
Why doesn't god heal amputees?
Were all 8 people that survived the great flood 8 different races?

Hard questions....sure you want to do this?



Sorry...hit post prematurely
1. Dinosaurs did exist with men before the flood
2 God created everything and He could fix anything, and we have not been told why and how He does everything He does or does not. Maybe He has, for all we know.
3 I don't believe they were 8 different races; the Bible does not tell us. We don't know!
4. If you were truly seeking the Creator God, yes, I would communicate with you indefinitely--presently see no point in "doing" (continuing) this.
I don't think they are hard questions. God has not revealed His Mind in everything to us---He has revealed everything that we need to know to live our lives on this earth and to live eternally with Him. We don't have to know everything, like "does he heal amputees?" to know that He is the all powerful Creator.

The next revolution will start as a guerrilla war of attrition against the big government control freaks and their "brain trust" (politicians, media, academics).

It will end up going down along racial lines though, especially after the collapse of the dollar and the ensuing riots in the urban areas.

Remember, these will be the YouTube riots. Streaming video, not edited by the federal media.

It is true that most people will do nothing so long as there are bread and circuses (EBT and Xboxes) to keep them fat and complacent, but when the system collapses far enough, they too will be dragged in as their comfortable lives come to an end.

East of the Mississippi the Government has the upper hand. West of the Mississippi you have a lot of very independent red necks that don't like big government, or the socialist in chief. The blue states will roll over, but the red states are very well prepared to fight if it comes down to that. I did not realize how different the cultures were until I made a trip to Disney World a couple of years ago. I took a bunch of politically incorrect shirts to Florida with me. The one that says "I'll keep my guns, money and freedom, you keep the change" got the most attention. I had people from the east coast comment on it a lot. Only one pimp dressed in purple said any thing negative. A guy from Ohio followed me around for 2 hours asking questions that seemed to me to be silly. After I thought about it, I realized that he really didn't understand why a person would own a gun. Where I live, the question would be why would anyone not own a gun. Most of the people in Wyoming have several guns and plenty of ammo. After Oblabla got re-elected, some locals went to Walmart to watch the newbies trying to load up. Of cours at that point, it was too late. Blue staters would not understand our love affair with guns any more than we understand their lack of guns.

If you truly think that you are more simple minded than you sound. That is of course, if the Government uses/tries to use, our own military. If however, they decide to use Blackwater-UN and Chineese forces then you may have a point. But, US Army "Policy" does have sections on disarming US Citizens and what to do if they do not comply.

Our own military will not go against their own country no matter what the talking heads think. They like their guns, families and freinds just as much as the rest of us.

Mercs like the former Blackwater however, and "some" of our Military will do anything for the right price.

*Sigh* Okay.

Do you believe cavemen and dinosaurs existed?
Why doesn't god heal amputees?
Were all 8 people that survived the great flood 8 different races?

Hard questions....sure you want to do this?



Sorry...hit post prematurely
1. Dinosaurs did exist with men before the flood
2 God created everything and He could fix anything, and we have not been told why and how He does everything He does or does not. Maybe He has, for all we know.
3 I don't believe they were 8 different races; the Bible does not tell us. We don't know!
4. If you were truly seeking the Creator God, yes, I would communicate with you indefinitely--presently see no point in "doing" (continuing) this.
I don't think they are hard questions. God has not revealed His Mind in everything to us---He has revealed everything that we need to know to live our lives on this earth and to live eternally with Him. We don't have to know everything, like "does he heal amputees?" to know that He is the all powerful Creator.


#1. That kinda surprised me. But christians are having a harder time debunking what's come to be common knowledge (cavemen and dinosaurs) than they had in Darwin's time.
#2. Not an answer. See how you reason away or poo-poo a legitimate answer. You have to create an excuse for god or the old fallback-no one can know the mind of god. He healed lepers and the blind (supposedly). Can an amputee be that much of a reach of his skills?
#3. So negros, orientals, Indians, ect just appeared out of thin air after the flood? Because, of course, we all know Noah and his family had to be white, just like god, right?
#4. I'm not seeking your creator. I'm seeking the real creator. Your's is a misdirected fabrication responsible for the deaths of millions of innocents over the ages.
You gotta be proud.

The problem with America is GREED. America is not paradise. Wake up. You're still on planet earth, which means too much pleasure, must balance with suffering!! So now, you must pay for all your debts, and over endulgence!!! Pay, pay, pay, for killing inoent people around the world in ilegitmate wars.

Obama will surely screw your country over. Cheers mates.

and cops would never shoot peoples dogs while in their yards.

If you think that a significant proportion wont do what theyre told for a paycheck you seriously havent been paying attention.

In a group, most all will defer to their boss and their feeding their wifey and chirrin.

It doesnt take many people to target the homes with drones from the comfort of some remote base, especially if it saves their own assets

If you get saved up still fuck up.. not all saved stay saved. Temptations deceive many...most!

I will be taking my family and myself with our guns to the Appalachian mountains. Good luck finding me there.

I believe in God, I just don't believe in the Church.

Then I guess we agree to disagree eh.

^ truth!

Satellites and Drones with Infrared Immaging, you had better be in a cave like the Taliban. About the only way to defeat all of our technology is to become a mole in a hole.

Except that the military is prepared to handle situation of no electricity, easily. They are trained to handle EMP, nuclear, bio, and chem. Civilians, or even police, aren't. It's really no comparison.

Every time someone mentions and compares today with the civil war era of no technology besides bodies on a battlefield needs to go die in a fire you clueless fuck. You'll probably be the first redneck to get shot down like cattle in a slaughter house. Americans won't stand in number, the days or being proud to be American are over. The only people still proud of America are vets, and rednecks. This country isn't what it used to be, the people aren't what they used to be, and everyone will happily sit back and take it up the ass just to save themselves. You're an idiot of you think otherwise.

It's vulnerable.
Even hardened, it's vulnerable.
I have news for you.
Americans are not the stupid couch potatoes
that Hollywood depicts.


Except that the military is prepared to handle situation of no electricity, easily. They are trained to handle EMP, nuclear, bio, and chem. Civilians, or even police, aren't. It's really no comparison.

Every time someone mentions and compares today with the civil war era of no technology besides bodies on a battlefield needs to go die in a fire you clueless fuck. You'll probably be the first redneck to get shot down like cattle in a slaughter house. Americans won't stand in number, the days or being proud to be American are over. The only people still proud of America are vets, and rednecks. This country isn't what it used to be, the people aren't what they used to be, and everyone will happily sit back and take it up the ass just to save themselves. You're an idiot of you think otherwise.


Pretty much....yeah.