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New York Legislature to Introduce Bills Making Posession of Any AWB Firearms Illegal, Remove Grandfathering

 
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no one I know will turn in their guns, they will have to do house to house searches to find them all
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yep break down your nice door and scrtach up your wifes sofa lookin for guns.
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and if you have a grandma be careful they might punch her in the face
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Looks like things are just getting worse for you Americans.
Stand your ground and don't give up. Freedom will die if you do.

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I see what you did there.

works for Israel on the same crowd
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W...T...F...they're practically begging for people to revolt I think, WOW!
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I'm starting to think it's what they want, they want a civil war..us against the liberals...that'll be easy lol
 Quoting: M.A.G.E


the libs want a war, not that they will themselves pay for or fight it, they'll demonize that section of the public they want exterminated and send in the uniforms and prosecutors after the basketball americans get done with the wite debbils.
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New York and Detroit

Same people in power - same result. This may only be a threat but the effect will be bad on the state economy. NY isn't the progressive state it was in the old days. Cuomo is a liberal joke being replayed from the days when his father was governor. Its just as broke as the federal government for exactly the same reason.
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W...T...F...they're practically begging for people to revolt I think, WOW!
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Or they are trying like hell to increase their crime rate, and disarming legal gun owners only empowers criminals.
Eu não me importo se isso machuca,
Eu quero ter o controle,
Eu quero um corpo perfeito,
Eu quero uma alma perfeita.
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The worst bill is probably designed to give room for a "compromise" in the middle, along the lines our evil governor Cuomo has proposed: you can keep your guns but register them. Problem - reaction - solution.

This won't go so easily, most of NY state by area (though less than half the population) is rural, white Republican territory.

The anti-gun shit is getting very serious.
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Last I heard NY was part of the United States and there was this thing called "The Second Amendment" that is the law of the land, eh?

Cumoo can fuck himself, no?
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your all a bunch of james bond wannabees.

and when the real boys come in your all gunna get shot up.
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The worst bill is probably designed to give room for a "compromise" in the middle, along the lines our evil governor Cuomo has proposed: you can keep your guns but register them. Problem - reaction - solution.

This won't go so easily, most of NY state by area (though less than half the population) is rural, white Republican territory.

The anti-gun shit is getting very serious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30670070


Last I heard NY was part of the United States and there was this thing called "The Second Amendment" that is the law of the land, eh?

Cumoo can fuck himself, no?
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well they're clearly ignoring it here in Illinois, they'll do the same in NY
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Boy they've really thrown the communist takeover into high gear now...
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We are a nation of LAWS! Should a resident of this nation break the laws by possessing Illegal Terrorist weapons, they shall face felony charges, including prison, and all and any property ( including homes, vehicles, vessels, and cash and securities) that was or could have been used in the purchase, transport, or housing of illegal terrorist weapons shall become the property of said state.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11603943


You are talking about the politicians, correct? According to the law of the land, it is the duty of the people to possess such weapons, so the only ones who can violate the law ARE, in fact, one of the three branches of Government or their employees.

The People are NOT and cannot have their right to keep and bear arms, that is the Supreme law of the land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31297288


Obviously "the people" can have the second amendment nullified, modified, or legally interpreted in different ways.

The "law of the land" at one time or another has been used to justify slavery, voting rights restrictions, and alcohol restriction. This is no different.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


Thanks for the history lesson and lets point out the obvious (since you missed it) it was nearly always those in control of Government who set such restrictions.

Like it or not, Government is the issue. People will only be stepped on to a point by those who would set themselves up a "leaders".

The cycle is simply repeating itself. And, since you do not get it, nobody nullifies, modifies, or legally interprets anything for me. I am a free man, I am perfectly capable of controlling my own weapons and rights.

Your need to be ruled over is your choice, but the second you think you can give someone else permission to rule over me, you cross the line and you will be dealt with.
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NO.

The point was, and always will be, that might makes right. No one needs to ask or be given permission... you are already ruled over. Like a child.

The issue is never a government, regardless of what nation is being spoken about, as the body of the people are always more numerous and could overthrow any central authority.

You are a fool that understands nothing, least of all the reality of your situation.

You are not a free man, you cannot control weapons nor your "rights".

Most likely you have an automobile, home, or buy goods like fuel. You have restriction of movement, your photo, address, and just about every facet of your life is located on multiple databases throughout various countries. You drive on roads built with government monies. You fuel your car with taxed gasoline or diesel. Even if you own your home, you pay taxes when you buy it, when you sell it, and while you are living in it. You cannot move without informing the local utilities when you leave, nor may you go to a new home without informing your arrival to the federal authorities (mail, etc), state authorities (taxes, etc.), or local authorities. You are, in fact, not free. Not even close.

You cannot control "your weapons". If you decide to own any number of weapons or configurations of weapons you must ask permission of the government. You may only purchase certain types built after or before certain years. You may only purchase approved ammunition and if you modify or make your own ammunition in an illegal manner, you will be sent to federal prison. The same goes for the wrong types of weapons without a federal tax stamp or local law enforcement approval. You do not have control over which type of weapons under your control. Not even close.

Because of these facts, and many others, your "rights" are subject to the common interpretation of what they should be. There are certain things you simply are not allowed to do, regardless of what you think your rights are. That is reality. That is the world you live in.

Deal with it.
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Go to sleep in America ... Wake up in Hitler's Germany.

Looks like that what's happening. Its an organized effort to overthrow the Constitution in the US.
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no one I know will turn in their guns, they will have to do house to house searches to find them all
 Quoting: Dr.Ricks


We have house-to-house for dog licenses, now under the department of health, they can have those guys do more searching in the future, and I believe they will. No trespassing signs mean nothing to them, they are law enforcement now.
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no one I know will turn in their guns, they will have to do house to house searches to find them all
 Quoting: Dr.Ricks


We have house-to-house for dog licenses, now under the department of health, they can have those guys do more searching in the future, and I believe they will. No trespassing signs mean nothing to them, they are law enforcement now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24182468


Huh? So, like, these people go house to house and break in doors looking for Fido? Or, do these people go door to door looking for dog poo in the backyard? This is the city/suburbs we're talking about, right?
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W...T...F...they're practically begging for people to revolt I think, WOW!
 Quoting: Laura Bow


^this^
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Yeah, they fuck up their own state then move down south to my lovely Virginia, turning a traditionally red state purple-ish blue. At least after the last election.

God damn stupid ass yankees.
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Tell me about it old friend.... I'm really thinking about going west now ..
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Well this will help NY's employment numbers.
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I wonder if the debunking of Sandy Hook and Webster were According to FBI data, between 1998 and 2001, one in five law enforcement officers slain in the line of duty was killed with an assault weapon. In 2003, New York lost two of its finest when undercover officers in the elite Firearms Investigation Unit of the NYPD Organized Crime Control Bureau were brutally murdered while attempting to purchase an illegal TEC-9 semi-automatic assault weapon. The availability of military-style assault weapons poses a serious threat to the public health and safety. Most citizens, including most gun owners, believe that assault weapons should not be available for civilian use.
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Let's get this straight: Two cops were killed while trying to commit a crime! WTF?

And they make a moranic comment without any basis that most gun owners don't want access to guns!

Preambles to stupid bills should be illegal.
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You are talking about the politicians, correct? According to the law of the land, it is the duty of the people to possess such weapons, so the only ones who can violate the law ARE, in fact, one of the three branches of Government or their employees.

The People are NOT and cannot have their right to keep and bear arms, that is the Supreme law of the land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31297288


Obviously "the people" can have the second amendment nullified, modified, or legally interpreted in different ways.

The "law of the land" at one time or another has been used to justify slavery, voting rights restrictions, and alcohol restriction. This is no different.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


Thanks for the history lesson and lets point out the obvious (since you missed it) it was nearly always those in control of Government who set such restrictions.

Like it or not, Government is the issue. People will only be stepped on to a point by those who would set themselves up a "leaders".

The cycle is simply repeating itself. And, since you do not get it, nobody nullifies, modifies, or legally interprets anything for me. I am a free man, I am perfectly capable of controlling my own weapons and rights.

Your need to be ruled over is your choice, but the second you think you can give someone else permission to rule over me, you cross the line and you will be dealt with.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31297288


NO.

The point was, and always will be, that might makes right. No one needs to ask or be given permission... you are already ruled over. Like a child.

I am not a child, I am a man.

The issue is never a government, regardless of what nation is being spoken about, as the body of the people are always more numerous and could overthrow any central authority.

There is no reason to overthrow any "central authority", because there is no central authority, only other men and women who lie about being in authority.

You are a fool that understands nothing, least of all the reality of your situation.

You are clearly projecting.

You are not a free man, you cannot control weapons nor your "rights".
Again, projecting.
Most likely you have an automobile, home, or buy goods like fuel. You have restriction of movement, your photo, address, and just about every facet of your life is located on multiple databases throughout various countries.
No, actually, I do not. I have no legal name, no address, no vehicle and no property registered to me in any way, shape or form. Not even an email address.

You drive on roads built with government monies.

No, I do not.

You fuel your car with taxed gasoline or diesel. Even if you own your home, you pay taxes when you buy it, when you sell it, and while you are living in it.
No, I do use money from time to time and I pay sales tax.

You cannot move without informing the local utilities when you leave, nor may you go to a new home without informing your arrival to the federal authorities (mail, etc), state authorities (taxes, etc.), or local authorities. You are, in fact, not free. Not even close.

Projecting again, I do NONE of those things.

You cannot control "your weapons". If you decide to own any number of weapons or configurations of weapons you must ask permission of the government.
you are laughably stupid. Millions of guns change hands every week in this nation without any paperwork whatsoever, and that does not even count people making guns themselves, its even done in prisons.


You may only purchase certain types built after or before certain years. You may only purchase approved ammunition and if you modify or make your own ammunition in an illegal manner, you will be sent to federal prison. The same goes for the wrong types of weapons without a federal tax stamp or local law enforcement approval. You do not have control over which type of weapons under your control. Not even close.

You are not even close and being "illegal" has never stopped anyone from doing one damn thing.

Because of these facts, and many others, your "rights" are subject to the common interpretation of what they should be. There are certain things you simply are not allowed to do, regardless of what you think your rights are. That is reality. That is the world you live in.

Deal with it.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


You deal with it, nothing you have posted is true or even close to being true. Deal with that, slave.

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