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Idaho Inmates Sue Beer, Wine Companies: Convicts Claim Alcohol Led To Their Crimes

 
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Oh man, no they didnt put a gun to anybodys head.

But the role liquor plays in our society is a big one!

So if its peer pressure it may as well be like holding a gun to someones head if their "reputation" is on the line.

Alcohol makes you black out and then youre a hormone flooded alcohol raging machine who is no longer concious and has no reguards for yourself or anyone elses well being.

There may be a big case here people oh shit.
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only in america. lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19654744


SAILORS SUE GOVERNMENT FOR THEIR VICES
In November 2011, a retired sailor who blames the Royal Australian Navy for his drinking problem is one of four ex-servicemen suing the government because they drink, eat and smoke too much or suffer from erectile dysfunction. The four men have fronted the Administrative Appeals Tribunal of Australia in separate attempts to force the nation's taxpayers to compensate them for their vices or erectile dysfunction.

Geoff Leitch, who lives in Tasmania, is one of three retired naval officers, all veterans of either the Korean or Vietnam wars, who blame their alcohol, tobacco and food demons on the stress of serving their country and a navy culture of excess. The tribunal heard that Leitch went from having a couple of cans of beer a fortnight when he enlisted in the navy in 1969 to at least six a night soon after experiencing the trauma of the Vietnam conflict. But the tribunal upheld an earlier decision by the Department of Veterans Affairs not to award him a pension usually reserved for serviceman suffering from war-related injuries or illness.

Leitch, 59, said he already received an ex-serviceman pension and disability pension for osteoarthritis in one of his knees, a fractured leg injury, and a hearing deficiency. But Leitch said he felt entitled to extra, as a result of his drinking problem, which he claims he developed in the navy. "I went from the junior ranks to the senior ranks in 1977 and when you get into the senior ranks the mess fridge was there and you could have a beer at 4:00pm," he said. "You could drink as much as you like and nobody complained as long as you showed up for your duties the next morning."

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This is another classic case of blaming somebody else for your own stupidity and weakness. Plenty of servicemen managed to survive wars, severe trauma and other tribulations without becoming alcoholics, heavy smokers and remained sexually active too. These four ex-sailors don't seem to understand that they have a personal responsibility for their own actions.

The RAN did not force them to go to the bar fridge and drink copious amounts of beer because it was there. The RAN did not force them to smoke cigarettes. As for their erectile dysfunction, this is something that happens to a large percentage of males, but to blame their lack of sexual ability on the navy is just ludicrous. These men ought to be prosecuted for wasting a court's time at great expense on their claim, which has no merit whatsoever. chuckle
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Well guns kill people according to the media - so yes alcohol makes you drink.
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Five inmates at the Idaho State Correctional Institution are suing national beer and wine companies for $1 billion, claiming that alcohol was responsible for their crimes, the Associated Press reports. The civil suit alleges that they were not sufficiently warned about alcohol's addictive properties.

The inmates, who do not yet have an attorney, drafted the litigation themselves.

Keith Allan Brown, who pleaded guilty in 2010 to voluntary manslaughter, filed the suit on Dec. 10, according to the Kansas City Star. The 52-year-old wrote that over the course of his life, he has spent almost 30 years in prison, and that alcohol has "played a major role" in most of the situations that landed him there.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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Well, if guns kill school children, it's safe to assume that alcohol commits crimes.
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I hope they win!
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01/03/2013 09:32 PM
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Putting Idaho on teh map!!
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Interesting. Many other cases have appeared of a similar vein. The concept of personal responsibility is dead? Or just a case of shifty individuals trying to worm their way out once they get caught? "Yes, I did those bad things. But it wasn't MY fault." Insert something external to the individual to blame: the food tastes too good and is cheap, the coffee was too hot, I was able to buy a gun, the devil made me do it, the women was too pretty and alone, it says in the Bible, it says in the Koran, it's my culture, it's tradition...blah blah blah.
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Interesting. Many other cases have appeared of a similar vein. The concept of personal responsibility is dead? Or just a case of shifty individuals trying to worm their way out once they get caught? "Yes, I did those bad things. But it wasn't MY fault." Insert something external to the individual to blame: the food tastes too good and is cheap, the coffee was too hot, I was able to buy a gun, the devil made me do it, the women was too pretty and alone, it says in the Bible, it says in the Koran, it's my culture, it's tradition...blah blah blah.
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I think alot of it has to do with the scumbag lawyers who would even consider pursuing this! The law works in favor of those who have nothing to lose. I am assuming they have nothing to lose but everything to gain.
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only in america. lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19654744


SAILORS SUE GOVERNMENT FOR THEIR VICES
In November 2011, a retired sailor who blames the Royal Australian Navy for his drinking problem is one of four ex-servicemen suing the government because they drink, eat and smoke too much or suffer from erectile dysfunction. The four men have fronted the Administrative Appeals Tribunal of Australia in separate attempts to force the nation's taxpayers to compensate them for their vices or erectile dysfunction.

Geoff Leitch, who lives in Tasmania, is one of three retired naval officers, all veterans of either the Korean or Vietnam wars, who blame their alcohol, tobacco and food demons on the stress of serving their country and a navy culture of excess. The tribunal heard that Leitch went from having a couple of cans of beer a fortnight when he enlisted in the navy in 1969 to at least six a night soon after experiencing the trauma of the Vietnam conflict. But the tribunal upheld an earlier decision by the Department of Veterans Affairs not to award him a pension usually reserved for serviceman suffering from war-related injuries or illness.

Leitch, 59, said he already received an ex-serviceman pension and disability pension for osteoarthritis in one of his knees, a fractured leg injury, and a hearing deficiency. But Leitch said he felt entitled to extra, as a result of his drinking problem, which he claims he developed in the navy. "I went from the junior ranks to the senior ranks in 1977 and when you get into the senior ranks the mess fridge was there and you could have a beer at 4:00pm," he said. "You could drink as much as you like and nobody complained as long as you showed up for your duties the next morning."

Hotheads Comments
This is another classic case of blaming somebody else for your own stupidity and weakness. Plenty of servicemen managed to survive wars, severe trauma and other tribulations without becoming alcoholics, heavy smokers and remained sexually active too. These four ex-sailors don't seem to understand that they have a personal responsibility for their own actions.

The RAN did not force them to go to the bar fridge and drink copious amounts of beer because it was there. The RAN did not force them to smoke cigarettes. As for their erectile dysfunction, this is something that happens to a large percentage of males, but to blame their lack of sexual ability on the navy is just ludicrous. These men ought to be prosecuted for wasting a court's time at great expense on their claim, which has no merit whatsoever. chuckle
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Another PWNED a/c, nice one Heisenberg!
 Quoting: Mwalk


a sailor is NOT a convict.

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you dumbfuck!!
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01/03/2013 10:35 PM

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Since these ignorant criminals who never learned responsibility or self control thus blaming everyone else except themselves are inadvertently trying to raise money to pay off their victims and these criminal sods deserve no personal gain from their frivolous suit.
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The alcohol doesn't infest itself in you without you putting it to your lips... Just lazy alcoholics who are looking for quick change so when they are out they can just drink more and continue to be low life's.
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The gun doesn't fire on its own, the car doesn't start up on it's own. Inanimate objects do not make subjective choices, people do.

See where all this is going, blaming everything else but the true cause.

Culture, look into the the culture, everything is there.
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good


if they can throw young kids in jail for smoking gods natural plant then alcohol which causes unttold deaths every year should be banned also


i for one hope they win
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01/03/2013 11:42 PM
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Well guns kill people according to the media - so yes alcohol makes you drink.
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And shoes transport you to crime.
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01/03/2013 11:44 PM

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Well guns kill people according to the media - so yes alcohol makes you drink.
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And shoes transport you to crime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31429448


Lol good one!
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Re: Idaho Inmates Sue Beer, Wine Companies: Convicts Claim Alcohol Led To Their Crimes
Putting Idaho on teh map!!
 Quoting: mood 22847179


Since it's Idaho they can also sue the potatofarmer because they make vodka from potatoes.

And then they can smoke some weed and be jewhaters like Stormfront werewolf guy above.
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Re: Idaho Inmates Sue Beer, Wine Companies: Convicts Claim Alcohol Led To Their Crimes
Well guns kill people according to the media - so yes alcohol makes you drink.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27707395


And shoes transport you to crime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31429448


Lol good one!
 Quoting: Nostril Domus


Well you can basically sue anybody if you're creative, you can blame pants makers for transporting you to the crime against your will, so Obama can sue Chine for making the pants that made him do crimes and your debt is gone. His Chinese suit, his chinese iphone that made him make calls that made USA go bust.

It's awesome. Debt is gone if you play this one right.




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