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| Astral Goat From the deep space petting zoo... User ID: 14380192 01/04/2013 12:47 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your third eye opens up. For some, this can be a frightening soul wrenching experience. When I leave I don't know what I'm hoping to find, and when I leave I don't know what I'm leaving behind... NEXTGEN FM - Radio from deep space - [link to nextgenfmradio.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31414718 01/04/2013 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Define drugs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31335488 You mean an absorbed substance that alters us chemically? Well, I suppose some drugs can be, but I mean recreational drugs. Is the theory published or just somebody's spoken opinion? Quoting: andawg221 I think drugs just fuck your brain up. But sounds interesting! Nothing that I know that has been published, just stories I've heard. |
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| ANHEDONIC Uncensored User ID: 26795689 01/04/2013 12:52 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some psychotropic anti-depressants can actually increase suicidal thoughts in you and make you want to kill yourself - it says so right on the label/commercial... I don't ever see anyone claiming those 'drugs' open you up to demons, even when it's established that those drugs may make you want to harm yourself.. These accusations are only made against the government designated 'illegal' narcotics... Weird... Last Edited by ANHEDONIC on 01/04/2013 12:54 AM "Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond to it." |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31414718 01/04/2013 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your third eye opens up. Quoting: Astral Goat For some, this can be a frightening soul wrenching experience. Some of the stories I hear are frightening as hell. I think what is most troubling is when you want to one thing but you can't, like moving a part of your body or if it moves and you are not making it move. Seeing things that are not natural, not of 'this' world. Just not having control, that is fucked up to me and I wouldn't like it. My brother, whom I've talked about on this forum, actually both my brothers are pretty fucked up on drugs and alcohol. But, the one talks about voices he hears telling him to kill himself, or that he is worthless and everyone hates him and so he should just die. I honestly don't know what to say to him. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31457056 01/04/2013 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was flat out possessed on psychedelics. And I only have myself to blame. People all across history treated drugs with the utmost respect. Now dumbass teenagers can get their hands on them. Going into the spirit world without any knowledge or preparedness will cause problems. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31414718 01/04/2013 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some psychotropic anti-depressants can actually increase suicidal thoughts in you and make you want to kill yourself - it says so right on the label/commercial... I don't ever see anyone claiming those 'drugs' open you up to demons, even when it's established that those drugs may make you want to harm yourself.. These accusations are only made against the government designated 'illegal' narcotics... Weird... Quoting: ANHEDONIC What's weirder is that they are essentially admitting with the one anti-depressant drug, that it doesn't really work, but keep taking, BUT, add this other drug and it should. And of course, both are prescribed to tame your depression, but you may want to kill yourself. Maddening. |
Salt![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 01/04/2013 12:57 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard the theory before where when high, a part of you is completely open, like a breach in your mind, your soul, where demons whisper things, lies and create a parallel universe in your mind where you no longer have control. Thoughts? I've smoked weed, tried acid once and some cocaine, years ago, but I've never delved into the world of heavy duty drugs where you aren't yourself anymore. Seems like scary shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31414718 the very moment that intoxication happens is the instant that dark entities are allowed to come and be with you. it is their territory and they are legally allowed to tread there. can happen with ANY mind altering substance. even energy drinks "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31414718 01/04/2013 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was flat out possessed on psychedelics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31457056 And I only have myself to blame. People all across history treated drugs with the utmost respect. Now dumbass teenagers can get their hands on them. Going into the spirit world without any knowledge or preparedness will cause problems. What do you mean? Like not feeling in control? Or seriously like something else was? Mind sharing? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31335488 01/04/2013 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Define drugs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31335488 You mean an absorbed substance that alters us chemically? Well, I suppose some drugs can be, but I mean recreational drugs. Is the theory published or just somebody's spoken opinion? Quoting: andawg221 I think drugs just fuck your brain up. But sounds interesting! Nothing that I know that has been published, just stories I've heard. Define recreational :P I jest. Or do I? Be more concerned with what we consume daily. When we believe we have control, that is when we are most susceptible, IMO. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31414718 01/04/2013 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Define drugs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31335488 You mean an absorbed substance that alters us chemically? Well, I suppose some drugs can be, but I mean recreational drugs. Is the theory published or just somebody's spoken opinion? Quoting: andawg221 I think drugs just fuck your brain up. But sounds interesting! Nothing that I know that has been published, just stories I've heard. Define recreational :P I jest. Or do I? Be more concerned with what we consume daily. When we believe we have control, that is when we are most susceptible, IMO. You mean like gmos and fluoride, even the fillings in our mouths? Good point about thinking were in control and that's when they hit you with the msinformation/propaganda. I ask because of my brothers. I watched that bath salts video by the navy and made me think of them and shit they've told me. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31457056 01/04/2013 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was flat out possessed on psychedelics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31457056 And I only have myself to blame. People all across history treated drugs with the utmost respect. Now dumbass teenagers can get their hands on them. Going into the spirit world without any knowledge or preparedness will cause problems. What do you mean? Like not feeling in control? Or seriously like something else was? Mind sharing? Ive taken, LSD, 2c-i, 2c-b, shrooms, salvia etc etc. Sometimes I tripped for weeks straight without any negative consequence. But this one time. I lost total physical control for about 7 seconds. Which seemed like eternity. I wrote down "don't try too follow Gods will" down on my wall with a marker. The entire time it seemed hilarious and that was the scary part. Never taking psychedelics again, only weed a beer or some wine from now on. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31414718 01/04/2013 01:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard the theory before where when high, a part of you is completely open, like a breach in your mind, your soul, where demons whisper things, lies and create a parallel universe in your mind where you no longer have control. Thoughts? I've smoked weed, tried acid once and some cocaine, years ago, but I've never delved into the world of heavy duty drugs where you aren't yourself anymore. Seems like scary shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31414718 the very moment that intoxication happens is the instant that dark entities are allowed to come and be with you. it is their territory and they are legally allowed to tread there. can happen with ANY mind altering substance. even energy drinks So you agree? If the mind is taken over by drugs, then spirits or demons can come into one's mind? I thought it had to be a willing sort of thing, when one is on drugs they aren't really all there to make such a decision??? |
| ANHEDONIC Uncensored User ID: 26795689 01/04/2013 01:07 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your third eye opens up. Quoting: Astral Goat For some, this can be a frightening soul wrenching experience. Some of the stories I hear are frightening as hell. I think what is most troubling is when you want to one thing but you can't, like moving a part of your body or if it moves and you are not making it move. Seeing things that are not natural, not of 'this' world. Just not having control, that is fucked up to me and I wouldn't like it. My brother, whom I've talked about on this forum, actually both my brothers are pretty fucked up on drugs and alcohol. But, the one talks about voices he hears telling him to kill himself, or that he is worthless and everyone hates him and so he should just die. I honestly don't know what to say to him. He probably perceives the 'voice' to be separate from him but I think you would find it is actually an element of his 'psyche' that is the source of the voice - a manifestation of his ego and the types of thoughts associated with the ego. It's like self-speak / self-talk. You or I might just have an internal thought in our head and let it go but for some people if they have suppressed and repressed those types of negative thoughts & fears that they carry with them, they may manifest as voices in their head speaking to them communicating the same thoughts that you or I might recognize as our own conscious internal thoughts of our mind/ego. For instance there are many of us who at some point of our lives may have felt 'worthless', may have felt that people do not like us or think highly of us, and have maybe even had passing thoughts about suicide as a means to end our pain/suffering. Only we recognized that it was our own mind having those thoughts and we took ownership of those thoughts and let them pass through us. But if someone has suppressed/repressed those emotions from their conscious awareness and perhaps done so with the use of drugs/alcohol, those feelings are very much still present but more so in the subconscious and they still will still find ways to surface and manifest until the negative energy is consciously confronted, acknowledged, and released (let go). I'm not expert on mental health care but that is my understanding of the matter. P.S. I don't recommend that anyone take hard drugs nor that they mess around with many of the doctor prescribed pharmaceutical drugs. They can all be dangerous to your body and your psychological well-being. Last Edited by ANHEDONIC on 01/04/2013 01:12 AM "Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond to it." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4386039 01/04/2013 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Never give your power away. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31457056 Looking at your horoscope. Doing drugs. Voting Liberal. Opening your door too vampires. The price of Liberty is responsibility. When bad stuff happens you have only yourself to blame. "Voting Liberal" I am not a liberal, but I really hope that post is a joke. None of those things do anything and vampires don't exist. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31457056 01/04/2013 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard the theory before where when high, a part of you is completely open, like a breach in your mind, your soul, where demons whisper things, lies and create a parallel universe in your mind where you no longer have control. Thoughts? I've smoked weed, tried acid once and some cocaine, years ago, but I've never delved into the world of heavy duty drugs where you aren't yourself anymore. Seems like scary shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31414718 the very moment that intoxication happens is the instant that dark entities are allowed to come and be with you. it is their territory and they are legally allowed to tread there. can happen with ANY mind altering substance. even energy drinks So you agree? If the mind is taken over by drugs, then spirits or demons can come into one's mind? I thought it had to be a willing sort of thing, when one is on drugs they aren't really all there to make such a decision??? But you made the choice to ingest the drugs right? Its all free will. Sometimes what you think is a good idea turns out to be a bad one later one, like marrying a "reformed" slut. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31414718 01/04/2013 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was flat out possessed on psychedelics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31457056 And I only have myself to blame. People all across history treated drugs with the utmost respect. Now dumbass teenagers can get their hands on them. Going into the spirit world without any knowledge or preparedness will cause problems. What do you mean? Like not feeling in control? Or seriously like something else was? Mind sharing? Ive taken, LSD, 2c-i, 2c-b, shrooms, salvia etc etc. Sometimes I tripped for weeks straight without any negative consequence. But this one time. I lost total physical control for about 7 seconds. Which seemed like eternity. I wrote down "don't try too follow Gods will" down on my wall with a marker. The entire time it seemed hilarious and that was the scary part. Never taking psychedelics again, only weed a beer or some wine from now on. Whoa! That is pretty fucked up. I would be completely freaked out. Honestly, do you feel it was something dark and sinister, insidious even? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31457056 01/04/2013 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. Never give your power away. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31457056 Looking at your horoscope. Doing drugs. Voting Liberal. Opening your door too vampires. The price of Liberty is responsibility. When bad stuff happens you have only yourself to blame. "Voting Liberal" I am not a liberal, but I really hope that post is a joke. None of those things do anything and vampires don't exist. It was an exaggeration of how you give away free will. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31457056 01/04/2013 01:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was flat out possessed on psychedelics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31457056 And I only have myself to blame. People all across history treated drugs with the utmost respect. Now dumbass teenagers can get their hands on them. Going into the spirit world without any knowledge or preparedness will cause problems. What do you mean? Like not feeling in control? Or seriously like something else was? Mind sharing? Ive taken, LSD, 2c-i, 2c-b, shrooms, salvia etc etc. Sometimes I tripped for weeks straight without any negative consequence. But this one time. I lost total physical control for about 7 seconds. Which seemed like eternity. I wrote down "don't try too follow Gods will" down on my wall with a marker. The entire time it seemed hilarious and that was the scary part. Never taking psychedelics again, only weed a beer or some wine from now on. Whoa! That is pretty fucked up. I would be completely freaked out. Honestly, do you feel it was something dark and sinister, insidious even? The only thing I felt was the complete lack of good. Like a pure darkness. And It was in broad daylight. Like an evil so pure you are sick to your stomach. |
| zenobiaphobia Dancing to the beat of a skinless drum User ID: 31447943 01/04/2013 01:11 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LSD made my dog look a little fuzzier. Wow. It did help my headaches, though. Most drugs are either massively over rated, or make you throw up. When used in proper doses for theraputic purposes, many are quite safe. After doing a large number of drugs I am firmly convinced that most people who say they have had these amazing trips are just making it up. No offence. None of that stuff ever happens to me. Books relevant to our current situation will appear here at random: [link to archive.org] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31414718 01/04/2013 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your third eye opens up. Quoting: Astral Goat For some, this can be a frightening soul wrenching experience. Some of the stories I hear are frightening as hell. I think what is most troubling is when you want to one thing but you can't, like moving a part of your body or if it moves and you are not making it move. Seeing things that are not natural, not of 'this' world. Just not having control, that is fucked up to me and I wouldn't like it. My brother, whom I've talked about on this forum, actually both my brothers are pretty fucked up on drugs and alcohol. But, the one talks about voices he hears telling him to kill himself, or that he is worthless and everyone hates him and so he should just die. I honestly don't know what to say to him. He probably perceives the 'voice' to be separate from him but I think you would find it is actually an element of his 'psyche' that is the source of the voice - a manifestation of his ego and the types of thoughts associated with the ego. It's like self-speak / self-talk. You or I might just have an internal thought in our head and let it go but for some people if they have suppressed and repressed those types of negative thoughts & fears that they carry with them, they may manifest as voices in their head speaking to them communicating the same thoughts that you or I might recognize as our own conscious internal thoughts of our mind/ego. For instance there are many of us who at some point of our lives may have felt 'worthless', may have felt that people do not like us or think highly of us, and have maybe even has passing thoughts about suicide as a means to end our pain/suffering. Only we recognized that it was our own mind having those thoughts and we took ownership of those thoughts and let them pass through us. But if someone has suppressed/repressed those emotions from their conscious awareness and perhaps done so with the use of drugs/alcohol, those feelings are very much still present but more so in the subconscious and they still will still find ways to surface and manifest until the negative energy is consciously confronted, acknowledged, and released (let go). I'm not expert on mental health care but that is my understanding of the matter. Thank you for your thoughts. I did worry he was suicidal, even schizo, but when he would tell me these things, it was as if he was someone different, he was evil and would purposely insult and demean me. He even tried to throw his hat off and come at me to fight. To me, it wasn't him, he freaked me out and we got on the floor but he was so fucked up. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31457056 01/04/2013 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LSD made my dog look a little fuzzier. Wow. Quoting: zenobiaphobia It did help my headaches, though. Most drugs are either massively over rated, or make you throw up. When used in proper doses for theraputic purposes, many are quite safe. After doing a large number of drugs I am firmly convinced that most people who say they have had these amazing trips are just making it up. No offence. None of that stuff ever happens to me. I'm not. Okay let's play a game. Pretend something bad happened to you, and you tried to warn everyone and they didn't believe you. Imagine how frustrated you would feel? It's only a matter of time, statistically if you keep doing them it will happen. Like I said, Ive tripped for weeks straight, and compounded tons of drugs. The only drugs Ive never done are peyote, bath salts and pcp. |
Salt![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 21291600 01/04/2013 01:15 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've heard the theory before where when high, a part of you is completely open, like a breach in your mind, your soul, where demons whisper things, lies and create a parallel universe in your mind where you no longer have control. Thoughts? I've smoked weed, tried acid once and some cocaine, years ago, but I've never delved into the world of heavy duty drugs where you aren't yourself anymore. Seems like scary shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31414718 the very moment that intoxication happens is the instant that dark entities are allowed to come and be with you. it is their territory and they are legally allowed to tread there. can happen with ANY mind altering substance. even energy drinks So you agree? If the mind is taken over by drugs, then spirits or demons can come into one's mind? I thought it had to be a willing sort of thing, when one is on drugs they aren't really all there to make such a decision??? demons can introduce thoughts to any mind any time whether sober or not. when the soul is intoxicated it is open to harassment, oppression and possession. some drugs seem to be worse than others. look what bath salts are doing to people. "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 31414718 01/04/2013 01:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31414718 What do you mean? Like not feeling in control? Or seriously like something else was? Mind sharing? Ive taken, LSD, 2c-i, 2c-b, shrooms, salvia etc etc. Sometimes I tripped for weeks straight without any negative consequence. But this one time. I lost total physical control for about 7 seconds. Which seemed like eternity. I wrote down "don't try too follow Gods will" down on my wall with a marker. The entire time it seemed hilarious and that was the scary part. Never taking psychedelics again, only weed a beer or some wine from now on. Whoa! That is pretty fucked up. I would be completely freaked out. Honestly, do you feel it was something dark and sinister, insidious even? The only thing I felt was the complete lack of good. Like a pure darkness. And It was in broad daylight. Like an evil so pure you are sick to your stomach. Now, that is the sort of stories I've heard and maybe it was a good thing cause I didn't want to even try them because of it. Totally fucked up and scary shit. |
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