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Youngest transgendered person in the world.

 
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I want to ask a question and it's not in a sarcastic way or anything, I honestly wish to hear thoughts about this. Imagine for a moment that this kid was born in a society in which both men and women dressed in long non revealing white robes and both genders wore the hair just the same. Imagine that there weren't any gender specific games or customs (besides of course the natural sexual roles of males fecundating the females and these in turn giving birth, which basically you can't hide).

Now do you think in such societies these kids could at these young ages be able to say, I feel like this or I feel like that? What are these conceptions of being a girl or being a boy but superficial cultural traits developed in our particular societies? Does wanting to wear short skirts and make up and playing with dolls make you girly? do all societies have such traits to be able to determine that measure?

It seems to me this whole thing is just a societal, circumstantial, environmental mindfuck and I ain't no religtard. But let me hear what you folks think.
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“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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WOW!
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At any given time there is going to exist some one in a million freak that breaks the mold. I have the feeling this kid is one of those.

When you're dealing with the rare freak, you can't read too much into it.
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its all about the whoremoans
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Some transgendered didn't seem to like my post, but didn't seem to have any argument to contribute Yeahsure
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“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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Ever wonder why you don't find this issue about transgender in primitive tribes? They don't seem to have them IMO because they haven't developed such drastic cultural gender dimorphism. We have focused so much on attributing blue to boys and pink to girls and all these artificial petty things that now whenever a kid likes one of these set of "cultural sexual costumes" more than the other we assume they should have surgery and change their hormones and genitals. Do you get my point?
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“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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Ever wonder why you don't find this issue about transgender in primitive tribes? They don't seem to have them IMO because they haven't developed such drastic cultural gender dimorphism. We have focused so much on attributing blue to boys and pink to girls and all these artificial petty things that now whenever a kid likes one of these set of "cultural sexual costumes" more than the other we assume they should have surgery and change their hormones and genitals. Do you get my point?
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Or primitive tribes do a very good job of forcing boys and girls into their roles from a very young age. I doubt your average African is a "just let Jr. be what he wants to be," parent.

Fuck that, the kid gets handed a spear as soon as he's able to walk and taught how to throw it at small animals and then dance around the village with the dead animal on the stick, and then eat it. The girls are raising their 10 younger sisters before they reach age 10.

No gender confusion there.
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I'm actually more surprised at how pretty she looks -- like if I saw a girl that looked like her on the street one day, I would never even think for one second that she could've been born a man. blink
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what the jesus h fuck? just when you think youve seen it all. now i know i aint never seen shit.
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let's just stop this before it starts...

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let's just stop this before it starts...

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I want to ask a question and it's not in a sarcastic way or anything, I honestly wish to hear thoughts about this. Imagine for a moment that this kid was born in a society in which both men and women dressed in long non revealing white robes and both genders wore the hair just the same. Imagine that there weren't any gender specific games or customs (besides of course the natural sexual roles of males fecundating the females and these in turn giving birth, which basically you can't hide).

Now do you think in such societies these kids could at these young ages be able to say, I feel like this or I feel like that? What are these conceptions of being a girl or being a boy but superficial cultural traits developed in our particular societies? Does wanting to wear short skirts and make up and playing with dolls make you girly? do all societies have such traits to be able to determine that measure?

It seems to me this whole thing is just a societal, circumstantial, environmental mindfuck and I ain't no religtard. But let me hear what you folks think.
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The short answer is yes! You would have to be one of these kids to truly comprehend their situation.
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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I'm actually more surprised at how pretty she looks -- like if I saw a girl that looked like her on the street one day, I would never even think for one second that she could've been born a man. blink
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This is due to the fact that she started the process before puberty.
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When I see some 'women' on the street I often wonder if they really are in fact, female. I even know women who look more like men than women. Big hands and feet, broad shoulders, strong legs and faces that are just manly (without the facial hair, of course) and even a manly gait.
I think that often the sex of a child at conception is borderline.
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I want to ask a question and it's not in a sarcastic way or anything, I honestly wish to hear thoughts about this. Imagine for a moment that this kid was born in a society in which both men and women dressed in long non revealing white robes and both genders wore the hair just the same. Imagine that there weren't any gender specific games or customs (besides of course the natural sexual roles of males fecundating the females and these in turn giving birth, which basically you can't hide).

Now do you think in such societies these kids could at these young ages be able to say, I feel like this or I feel like that? What are these conceptions of being a girl or being a boy but superficial cultural traits developed in our particular societies? Does wanting to wear short skirts and make up and playing with dolls make you girly? do all societies have such traits to be able to determine that measure?

It seems to me this whole thing is just a societal, circumstantial, environmental mindfuck and I ain't no religtard. But let me hear what you folks think.
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Couldn't have put it a better way my friend. How things ought to be.

Glad to see someone has the balls to be open about this sort of thing.

peace
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I want to ask a question and it's not in a sarcastic way or anything, I honestly wish to hear thoughts about this. Imagine for a moment that this kid was born in a society in which both men and women dressed in long non revealing white robes and both genders wore the hair just the same. Imagine that there weren't any gender specific games or customs (besides of course the natural sexual roles of males fecundating the females and these in turn giving birth, which basically you can't hide).

Now do you think in such societies these kids could at these young ages be able to say, I feel like this or I feel like that? What are these conceptions of being a girl or being a boy but superficial cultural traits developed in our particular societies? Does wanting to wear short skirts and make up and playing with dolls make you girly? do all societies have such traits to be able to determine that measure?

It seems to me this whole thing is just a societal, circumstantial, environmental mindfuck and I ain't no religtard. But let me hear what you folks think.
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Whats scary about this is, are there any laws to protect people dating that run into to people like this that refuse to tell them they were born the opposite sex? I would never had guessed this person was a boy!
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I want to ask a question and it's not in a sarcastic way or anything, I honestly wish to hear thoughts about this. Imagine for a moment that this kid was born in a society in which both men and women dressed in long non revealing white robes and both genders wore the hair just the same. Imagine that there weren't any gender specific games or customs (besides of course the natural sexual roles of males fecundating the females and these in turn giving birth, which basically you can't hide).

Now do you think in such societies these kids could at these young ages be able to say, I feel like this or I feel like that? What are these conceptions of being a girl or being a boy but superficial cultural traits developed in our particular societies? Does wanting to wear short skirts and make up and playing with dolls make you girly? do all societies have such traits to be able to determine that measure?

It seems to me this whole thing is just a societal, circumstantial, environmental mindfuck and I ain't no religtard. But let me hear what you folks think.
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Wise man. Ask the pro-trannys that.
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I want to ask a question and it's not in a sarcastic way or anything, I honestly wish to hear thoughts about this. Imagine for a moment that this kid was born in a society in which both men and women dressed in long non revealing white robes and both genders wore the hair just the same. Imagine that there weren't any gender specific games or customs (besides of course the natural sexual roles of males fecundating the females and these in turn giving birth, which basically you can't hide).

Now do you think in such societies these kids could at these young ages be able to say, I feel like this or I feel like that? What are these conceptions of being a girl or being a boy but superficial cultural traits developed in our particular societies? Does wanting to wear short skirts and make up and playing with dolls make you girly? do all societies have such traits to be able to determine that measure?

It seems to me this whole thing is just a societal, circumstantial, environmental mindfuck and I ain't no religtard. But let me hear what you folks think.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


The short answer is yes! You would have to be one of these kids to truly comprehend their situation.
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Well explain to me how a young kid who doesn't have any visible superficial measure to know what feminine and masculine is can instrinsically "know" he/she feels like being of the opposite sex? Imagine a kid that has not been exposed to the genitals of the opposite sex, how does he/she knows she wants to have a penis instead of a vag or viceversa?

By the way when making your argumentation always remember that our perception of gender sexuality is basically a social construct, so how can anyone argue that a kid can naturally have a desire to adopt an artificial construct? this seems like psychological and not biological to me.

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Banned as usual.

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I want to ask a question and it's not in a sarcastic way or anything, I honestly wish to hear thoughts about this. Imagine for a moment that this kid was born in a society in which both men and women dressed in long non revealing white robes and both genders wore the hair just the same. Imagine that there weren't any gender specific games or customs (besides of course the natural sexual roles of males fecundating the females and these in turn giving birth, which basically you can't hide).

Now do you think in such societies these kids could at these young ages be able to say, I feel like this or I feel like that? What are these conceptions of being a girl or being a boy but superficial cultural traits developed in our particular societies? Does wanting to wear short skirts and make up and playing with dolls make you girly? do all societies have such traits to be able to determine that measure?

It seems to me this whole thing is just a societal, circumstantial, environmental mindfuck and I ain't no religtard. But let me hear what you folks think.
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Whats scary about this is, are there any laws to protect people dating that run into to people like this that refuse to tell them they were born the opposite sex? I would never had guessed this person was a boy!
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I suppose a transgendered person wouldn't have any obligation to tell you about it and if you then find out and complain you could be liable to be charged with a hate crime.
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I want to ask a question and it's not in a sarcastic way or anything, I honestly wish to hear thoughts about this. Imagine for a moment that this kid was born in a society in which both men and women dressed in long non revealing white robes and both genders wore the hair just the same. Imagine that there weren't any gender specific games or customs (besides of course the natural sexual roles of males fecundating the females and these in turn giving birth, which basically you can't hide).

Now do you think in such societies these kids could at these young ages be able to say, I feel like this or I feel like that? What are these conceptions of being a girl or being a boy but superficial cultural traits developed in our particular societies? Does wanting to wear short skirts and make up and playing with dolls make you girly? do all societies have such traits to be able to determine that measure?

It seems to me this whole thing is just a societal, circumstantial, environmental mindfuck and I ain't no religtard. But let me hear what you folks think.
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Whats scary about this is, are there any laws to protect people dating that run into to people like this that refuse to tell them they were born the opposite sex? I would never had guessed this person was a boy!
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would you hit it?? sideways
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what's wrong with germans?

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Go Thailand and you will see much younger ones!
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Go Thailand and you will see much younger ones!
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damned

No thanks, no interested ahhh
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I want to ask a question and it's not in a sarcastic way or anything, I honestly wish to hear thoughts about this. Imagine for a moment that this kid was born in a society in which both men and women dressed in long non revealing white robes and both genders wore the hair just the same. Imagine that there weren't any gender specific games or customs (besides of course the natural sexual roles of males fecundating the females and these in turn giving birth, which basically you can't hide).

Now do you think in such societies these kids could at these young ages be able to say, I feel like this or I feel like that? What are these conceptions of being a girl or being a boy but superficial cultural traits developed in our particular societies? Does wanting to wear short skirts and make up and playing with dolls make you girly? do all societies have such traits to be able to determine that measure?

It seems to me this whole thing is just a societal, circumstantial, environmental mindfuck and I ain't no religtard. But let me hear what you folks think.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


The short answer is yes! You would have to be one of these kids to truly comprehend their situation.
 Quoting: Ozicell


Well explain to me how a young kid who doesn't have any visible superficial measure to know what feminine and masculine is can instrinsically "know" he/she feels like being of the opposite sex? Imagine a kid that has not been exposed to the genitals of the opposite sex, how does he/she knows she wants to have a penis instead of a vag or viceversa?

By the way when making your argumentation always remember that our perception of gender sexuality is basically a social construct, so how can anyone argue that a kid can naturally have a desire to adopt an artificial construct? this seems like psychological and not biological to me.
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I agree that a lot of being either male or female has to do with social conditioning, however, it does not account for all perceptions. Generally, without any outside influence males will present as a masculine nature and female will present as a feminine nature but sometimes also without an outside influence a male child will present as feminine or a female child will present as masculine. I don't pretend to be a psychologist and understand how this occurs nevertheless it does occur. So it's not always a social conditioning that is to blame but I agree, in the world we live in today - this would be the first consideration and that's what psychologists have been trained to determine.
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Is this a specialty field in the medical profession? Is it called something like 'whack a shaft'?
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Is this a specialty field in the medical profession? Is it called something like 'whack a shaft'?
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I believe it is but don't ask me what it's called!

Are there any psychologists lurking around GLP who could answer this question?
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Does she actually have a working vag?

How do doctors make that possible?

I am sure she can't have babies etc.

wtf.
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