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Message Subject Youngest transgendered person in the world.
Poster Handle Ozicell
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I want to ask a question and it's not in a sarcastic way or anything, I honestly wish to hear thoughts about this. Imagine for a moment that this kid was born in a society in which both men and women dressed in long non revealing white robes and both genders wore the hair just the same. Imagine that there weren't any gender specific games or customs (besides of course the natural sexual roles of males fecundating the females and these in turn giving birth, which basically you can't hide).

Now do you think in such societies these kids could at these young ages be able to say, I feel like this or I feel like that? What are these conceptions of being a girl or being a boy but superficial cultural traits developed in our particular societies? Does wanting to wear short skirts and make up and playing with dolls make you girly? do all societies have such traits to be able to determine that measure?

It seems to me this whole thing is just a societal, circumstantial, environmental mindfuck and I ain't no religtard. But let me hear what you folks think.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


The short answer is yes! You would have to be one of these kids to truly comprehend their situation.
 Quoting: Ozicell


Well explain to me how a young kid who doesn't have any visible superficial measure to know what feminine and masculine is can instrinsically "know" he/she feels like being of the opposite sex? Imagine a kid that has not been exposed to the genitals of the opposite sex, how does he/she knows she wants to have a penis instead of a vag or viceversa?

By the way when making your argumentation always remember that our perception of gender sexuality is basically a social construct, so how can anyone argue that a kid can naturally have a desire to adopt an artificial construct? this seems like psychological and not biological to me.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


I agree that a lot of being either male or female has to do with social conditioning, however, it does not account for all perceptions. Generally, without any outside influence males will present as a masculine nature and female will present as a feminine nature but sometimes also without an outside influence a male child will present as feminine or a female child will present as masculine. I don't pretend to be a psychologist and understand how this occurs nevertheless it does occur. So it's not always a social conditioning that is to blame but I agree, in the world we live in today - this would be the first consideration and that's what psychologists have been trained to determine.
 
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